CZ 457 DIY Build That Changes The Game!!!
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- Опубликовано: 3 ноя 2023
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I shoot my MTR and Anschutz off a bench only with myself or with a friend or two. It’s really neat the versatility of a CZ and the “build” . My health is rapidly declining but my shoot time with my son or friends is really still the best. CAMARADERIE!!!!
My doctor gives me a couple more years. A few days ago I rode my little Honda motorcycle to the range with my CZ 457 MTR, in its case, strapped to the side of the bike. Never stop enjoying what we’ve got. If it can bring a smile to our family’s faces all the better :)
Oh I like your videos.
Great options.
I am looking at the CZ 457.
I have a MDT chassis under my 6mm Remington heavy barrel. It’s great
CZ, Bergara platforms are both good platforms and fun to build on and your assessment of the CZ is right on. But in the end if we get serious enough in the sport we go full custom even if what we had was just as good.
Ordered one last week from John👍 can’t wait to get it..
Love it! Should have mine in a couple weeks. Same as yours. Think I am going to try to make it fit my xlr element with c6!
Awesome video Josh very detailed with lots of info. Thank you
Appreciate you watching
Barrels for CZ457s are, from what I’ve been able to see online, perpetually out of stock. Thankfully my stock pro Varmint shoots great. I’d love a heavy match barrel for better balance but I’m cheap! Maybe I’ll sign up for the MCR in stock notification and cry once they come back in stock as I still likely couldn’t afford one!
Re-barreled Bergaras with MCR chambered barrels are also available from Bison Tactical.
I own a LRP the other side of the pond in the UK, shoot Eley Sport, NSRA Benchrest 😊 I've changed the trigger spring to a YoDave, may consider changing the trigger to a Jard
Another great video. Yep balance makes the difference
Josh , I just got my CZ Modacam back . Jon told me to double check to see if my mdt xrs would clear the barrel . I called MDT beforehand , they said it would fit fine . Well, you were right , they were wrong . 1” beyond the receiver needed relieved for a complete free float . The remaining 24” of barrel cleared easily without modification . Modacam is great to work with . I sent him my receiver to thermal fit the MullerWorks barrel . He also fixed my chassis for me . Those MullerWorks barrels ain’t cheap . But dang, I’ve never seen such workmanship looking through the borescope . Getting the chassis back soon . Thanks for posting this vid .
Awesome brother
Nice video. Really liked the edit Josh.
Thanks
Awesome video - jonesing for that sweet setup 🍻
Then why did you preach the CZ 457 MTR. I'm out here searching everywhere for one? Based of watching nearly all your videos. And now they are non existence
keep doing the groups quickly like that, not that it was too slow before but its just super satisfying see the group quickly form like that, I dig it a lot! Also my cz 457 pro varmint has been able to do everything ive asked so far even hit a 4 inch target 2 in a row from 300 with it and cci std and a 100 redfield academy 2-7 once i get better glass its over
Nice.
Yeah i plan to keep the condensed groups going. Easier to watch without adding 10 more mins to a video
@PursuitofAccuracy have to agree with coal here as its not really a time saver issue but it just feels great and very satisfying to see that first shot go and rapid fire follow ups. As a viewer is the best method if seen. Keep it up
I recently joined your community and really enjoy watching your very informative videos. If I may ask, can you give a break down of all the parts you used to assemble this setup and Can you comment on why the mirage cover and what is going on underneath the mirage cover? Thank you
Thanks for the info I really like yours and Kenny's channel basically shoot ara and abra
Thanks for another thought video!
Thanks!
Balance on a CZ with a standard 20" barrel is tricky. I'm in the process of trying to add enough weight to the front end of a MTR in a MDT XRS chassis. I'm adding the heaviest weights to the M-LOK slots out front and then plan on mount a lead weight on the front "shelf" underneath the barrel that is made by my long-ish ARCA rail mounted to the rifle. Next step is to explore one of those heavy MCR pipes...
Are the mags easy to remove on the XRS?
@@jeffmiller2433 Yes. I'm easily able to get my index finger in the well to activate the release on a 10rd mag.
You’re making me miss my 457’s now 😢 I just got rid of them within the last month since I never shot them anymore now that I have the vudoo
Its never too late 😂
You can also go to Rectify LLC who can fit a heavy 1.15 or 1.18 straight contour barrel without cutting the deep notches in the chamber area to mount the barrel. A light press fit takes the stress out of the action, perfect headspace is achieved without shims. No need to send your rifle until he has the barrel in hand and they try to keep a couple Shillen super match barrels in stock. They have the aftermarket triggers and can also work the stock trigger to below Dave pull.
Kenny at dpg also does the custom send your rifle in to get done deal. Hes been very succesfull with it.
Just watched one of Kenny’s videos and he would rather provide the action as he can return the rifle he orders if it is too far out of spec.
Great video/content again as usual. I came back here because I'm desperate to solve my feed/extract issues with my 457 and I'm dumbfounded by all the coments about how great these feed, and the availability of parts (not match barrels). I have a 457 that I purchased used but with a new IBI barrel on it. Shortly after I got it I decided to sell my Vudoo because it was running just as well as the Vudoo and just as accurate. Of course as soon as I sold it, my 457 started having extraction issues. After scouring the internet and waiting a while on a list, I got hold of those Volquartsen extractors and that solved my extraction problem instantly. However, I also instantly started having feed issues! I routinely hit resistance loading rounds (several brands/lots that all used to feed well). I have a whole collection of rounds with these crescent-shaped divots in the nose of the bullet, and also some crescents I cleared out of the chamber and mag well after a match since under the clock I was forced to rm a few of these guys home. I tried new aluminum mags from L3I, no help. Back to the CZ factory polymer mags, no help. I even replaced all the mag well components with DPI aluminim stuff, replaced the barrel grub screws, action screws, triple checked all the torque, and last weekend I was still having trouble. Accuracy has gone down the tubes as well. I really want to make this CZ investment work, and every time I look at RimX or whatever, I find myself back at your site for inspiration, lol. But I am running out of ideas and things to try, here.
For now, I'll be happy to run a single 10-round mag through this thing without issue. Dry-firing and just dry-cycling rounds, it seems to run well. But back out at the range, it usually doesn't take long for the games to begin. Any ideas?
So something that sounds like you havent tested. Put the old extractors in and see if the feed issues go away. Could be the VQ extractors are not allowing the rim into the bolt face but once chambered are extracting 100%
@@PursuitofAccuracy whoa, that was fast, thank you! You are right in that I did not try putting the old extractors back in, and as I typed this post I thought that maybe that would be a good idea. I have to hope I didn't chuck them in the trash, I may have. The difference in the "hook" from the new ones to the old ones was so ridiculous, I figured for sure I'd be solving my problem with these new ones, and I think I may have just tossed those old ones in the trash! Stay tuned. Thank you for the quick reply.
@@RobGuglielmetti no problem at all
This is great info! Thanks!
Thanks brother
Great video Josh. Love my CZ 457, my only short coming is the weight, I had to add 4mdt weights in the front, and since I do not have an ACC chassis, I’m still short to balance it out. I’m thinking of adding a 419 grip changer so that I have more weight in the front to balance it out.
Nailed it, exactly the reason i always shoot my rim-x over my cz. When i get a heavy steel barrel for my CZ, i may go back because i love how flawless my feeding is with the cz... Just cant find any match aftermarket barrels. They are never in stock! Ever!
Yeah demand is through the roof
Talk about consistency, yeah the rifle is awesome, but check out the time lapse and you body positioning to the rifle. Same spot every time.. that is consistency... well done! Thank you for all the information..
Thanks brother. Appreciate ya watching and the positive feedback!
You have the mtr and have a lilja barrel on it. Lol you are living the life my man.
Thanks brother
Good video sir. Thanks.
Thanks brother!
I would say it was the ease of the Clips that puts the customs rifles easier to work
I think the Bergara is just slightly a head of the CZ457 because of the clip. It is easier to put the bullets in those big clips than it is the small clips but I really like the CZs because of all the extra stuff you can get for the CZ 457s.
I actually prefer the small magazines over the aics mags for the 700 clones
I'd like more sako quad content....like how does the action compare to cz ,reliability ect..
Noice! I think another factor is you cannot just buy a CZ457 action, and then the barrel isn’t threaded to the action so if you need to do all those things you are more likely to use established Remington 700 style components and gunsmiths
Yeah not being able to buy the action certainly sucks. Maybe cz will offer it at some point.
Can’t but the action by itself but I have seen non take off MTR barreled actions brand new for $629
I placed in the top 20 in the PRS National Finale with my 457 and I don’t think it was the rifle holding me back. The balance issue is definitely the shortcoming, I have a 22” barrel, but it’s only .92” diameter and that’s the heaviest I could get. I needed to make my own weights in order to get the center of balance forward far enough to be viable because no one makes them heavy enough and even then it’s still not quite as far forward as I want. Maybe if I had a longer forend like an ACC instead of my Element, but I’m to cheap lol
Thats good shooting brother. Saw it was a tough match, the indian makes a big part of the equation
I get them to balance with a 1.15" diameter 22-24" barrel. I have not had issues with balance on any customers gun using that formula.
Drop in barrels of that diameter were only available custom when I got my barrel and even now the ones Josh is talking avout are twice the price. My buget is too low for a $1300 ACC or a $750 barrel. My whole setup combined (incluing a free scope) cost me less than a Vudoo barreled action.
@@deanschober5183 what shop are you with?
Great Video. Question on the Modacam Mullerworks barrel. Is the barrel you used the same one they sell on their website (when in stock)? The reason I ask is because their website states "Mullerworks 1.180 straight taper. 25″ finished length with recessed flat crown." I think you stated 1.180 in your video, as well as 8 groove 1/16th twist - 24” inch barrel.
Yes same barrel
Hell yea that thing shoots
Yes sir
Started with the 457 Varmint MTR, shoots very well - then went with MDT LSS chassis, Yo Dave trigger spring - little more consistent, good feel ! Now what - full custom build ?! Haven’t been able to shoot PRS just local range. Will custom be more accurate at the 100-300 yard range ?
Custom may not be more accurate but will surely help you get a really solid balanced setup
Nice '' Great Stuff 💯💥💥💥💥💥💥💥
My Cz in the mannors stock with the 23” lilja balances perfectly also
Yeah they balance good in the manners. Just a little light for me compared to the vudoos and rimx etc
@@PursuitofAccuracy oh right on!! I may get a chassis this winter been debating. Love the lilja thing hammers def good bang for the buck
Man the CZ shot very well even with the lesser quality ammo do you ever shoot Norma match with these newer barrels you been running ?
Havent tried it yet
Not to mention you have a chord of wood on the rear of that wood stock.
Lmfao
I love my CZ but that mag relief is just bad engineering. MDT needs to improve that for the money they want for that chassis. Love this video.
OTTA THE PARK HOME RUN AS USUAL #OUTSTANDING.... THE WAY U TESTED DIFFERENT BRANS OF AMMO REMINDED ME OF A OLD FAT GUY WITH AN EYE PATCH 🤔🤔🤔🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Josh.... Have you seen a difference in precision accuracy at 50 yards between the 16.5" and the 20" to 24" barrerls? I expect to see a difference past 50 yards, but I shoot against alot of other 457s and Bergaras with 20" to 24" barrels at my local ARA, and my 457 VPC with a 16.5 is on the pedestal just about every competition.
22lr doesn’t require a long barrel to get a full burn. It’s more for stability than the accuracy of the rifle
I havent seen any real difference in accuracy, less noise and tighter sd's in the longer barrel but nothing that would affect accuracy at 50
I got a Lilja to replace my VPC 16.5” barrel . At 50 the Lilja is minimally better. I’m talking about 0.03” smaller group average over 500 rounds in each barrel indoors . More than likely , I just am a little bit more stable with the Lilja at 50 . I really haven’t seen much difference at 100 yds outdoors . That 16.5” factory vpc barrel is a great shooting barrel .
I thoroughly enjoy your videos and wealth of knowledge. I wonder what you do for a living to afford all of these toys.👋
Im in IT and the national guard
@@PursuitofAccuracy thank you for your service to our country
Yea i think it shoots
Have you had any magazines and feeding issues with the bergara? Seems like i have seen some people with issues when put into after market stocks.
I run the l3i mags with my bergara and doesnt give me any issues
Man that is bad arse. I have grey birch carbon 457 barrel i could trade you for a springfield 2020 hahah
Lol
Is the Varmint pro my best bet if I want an all around rifle that can take a suppressor?
Most likely yes
Have to ask what’s left of the original rifle considering the barrel change the trigger change chassis etc
The defining part of the rifle, the action
I see you use the Tract scopes. Have you tried the Arken
Yeah i have a few arkens as well
DAMN!
😁
@pursuitofaccuracy 50 yards is great, but 100 and 200 yard groups is what sets theses builds apart. Anyway you can get some video of that?
At my range i only have 182 yards. Ive shot that and all my others rifles out to 400ish.
The problem is the conditions play an enormous role at distance and a bad wind condition day is gonna make a rifle look much worse than it actually is
I see you keep mentioning the weight as why you prefer the 700 footprint. How much does the CZ weigh, vs your Vudoo and Rimx in ACC chassis? Appreciated
I asked in another video, but what weight brand weights are you running up front?
Must have missed that one. They are the grey ops weights.
They are awesome but expensive
what's your opinion of the Modacam vs DPG. is the juice worth the squeeze?
If you want a full custom your gonna be going dpg. The mcr prefit has worked as well as a custom rifle for me
Please let me know where you got the bolt handle and the cheek rest.
Im using an xlr cheek rest and the bolt nob is a one off i had made a few years ago
Man those are at leat $3,000.00 nice!
Is there a way to get enough weight forward on the stock 457 MTR without changing the chassis?
You can add the da rail from dst and that will balance it
Will the MPA 457 chassis not accomodate the 1.18 barrel? That size barrel looks basically flush with the receiver, and it LOOKS like the MPA Hybrid I have would accomodate it. Wondering if I'm missing something.
It may, its a very small (almost youth sized) chassis though. Its not at all like the 700 mpa chassis
@@PursuitofAccuracy True, length of pull all the way out is still a little short for me. Not sure why they based it on the hybrid instead of the standard BA chassis.
For what it's worth the MPA matrix pro clears 1.25" straight profile barrels.
Do they inlet it for 457's?
@@PursuitofAccuracy Ah, I didn't even think about that 🤣My bad
@@ethangshooting21 😆
How call part of yours chassis on te front above barell? Sorry for my english
The forend
What about the Grey Birch MFG chassis?
No experience with them
I put a weighted Arca rail.on mine like I have on my PRS 6GT one Manners stock and it fixed the balance issue
Yeah ive went that route as well. Fixed half my issues with it, other thing for me was overall weight was considerably lighter than my vudoos and rimx.
Where can i find the the site for those barrels thanks
Google modacam custom rifles
As a general question how much can you change on a gun and still think its the same as when you started but there not much left of that cz 457 😂
If you buy a rimx, which is just the action. Put it in a xlr stock, put a krieger barrel on it, and trigger......its a rimx. The action defines the rifle.
Seems like you’ve gotten away from this setup. Is there a reason other than just doing different things? Thinking about buying this barrel, so if you’ve run into problems with it, I’d like to know.
Not at all. Chassis was gone getting coated for a bit. One of my best guns on the wall.
So you are actually taking a 457 CZ and tossing everything but the action and rebuilding the rifle so I have to ask why don't you just start with a full rifle of another brand. Is a CZ action that good
To get to a similar point in terms of precision and ergonomics with another brand of rifle you would pretty much need to do the same thing. It just so happens that you can get a cheap 457 for less than $400 which makes it about the cheapest action available that has the modularity and aftermarket support to be able to do that. Being relatively inexpensive does not make it bad though; it is incredibly reliable and can be very smooth and easy to run.
^^^^ what he said....exactly 😁
Where does that prefit barrel come from, please?
Modacam custom rifles
@@PursuitofAccuracy Thanks, Josh. I’m in Southpark, so they’re not far…
MPA Matrix pro chasis fits a 1.3...
Is it inletted for a 457? The guys i know with the cz 457 mpa chassis are not very happy with it or already swapped to an acc
Where’s that barrel from?
Matrix Pro isn't available for the CZ457. MPA makes the Hybrid for the 455/457 and it will fit up to a 1.2 barrel.
What’s the chassis on that 457?
Mdt acc premier
The MTR has a match barrel, are the aftermarkets that much better? If they are that much better why even buy the MTR?
The mtr has a great stock, that alone is worth the extra cash for most
To shoot in production division... if you want to do that, you can't be swapping out the barrels.
@@t3h8ar0n unless your a brand new shooter i dont think you should be shooting in production anyways, just my unpopular opinion 😁
@@PursuitofAccuracy No way! Staying in production prevents exponential expenditures on a 22!
@@t3h8ar0n thats partly why its an unpopular opinion 🤣
Which Timney trigger is that
Timney
@@PursuitofAccuracy thank you but which time you trigger is it ?
@@edwardsimeral9432 i believe they only make the 1 model for the 457
Also thank you for your time and your videos
Popular yes but it will never outsell the 10/22
Nothing will outsell the 10/22
What is that bag rider?
Search ald rifles on facebook. Its called the bag bullet
Thanks!@@PursuitofAccuracy
@@ddan5252 np. Thanks for watching. I have a video on that bag rider if you look back a few months
Josh, can I ask what scope height rings you use?@@PursuitofAccuracy
@@ddan5252 i typically run medium rings to be safe
What ammo family
does the JGS chamber prefer?
Seems to like all of it
The overwhelming majority of shooters dont care if the gun is balanced in the manner which youre describing
Will it shoot is SECOND!
COST is first
Im on the opposite side of that argument 😁
@@PursuitofAccuracy
Well of course, it is one of your jobs!
@@Redacted-Information whats one of my jobs?
The most popular rimfire? What about the Ruger 10/22??
Love a 10 22, but you will never see a 10 22 in nrl22 or prs unless they are first-time shooters. It won't take long to change over to a bolt gun.
@ericlaplante7326 I agree. However, the statement was the CZ is the most popular .22LR.
@@CruisintheStreets most popular precision rimfire.
I shoot these videos unscripted so its honest and upfront. So sometimes im saying things in a context of precision rimfire without specifically saying it
yeah its great until you want to get magazines! oof
L3i and ndr shooting have mags in stock. So you can get 13 and 15 rounders anytime you want right now
there is nothing cz on this rifle haha almost everything is aftermarket
Yup
My T1X in a SCSA chassis and lighter trigger can do those groups all day with SK rifle match @50m. 1/4 of the cost of that build brother 🫡
Is it going to balance and feel like that rifle on props though 🫡
@@PursuitofAccuracy irrelevant when sitting at a bench my friend. Rock solid bipod and rear bag and she’s not rocking on no props 😉
@@shauno7582 for bench shooting you dont need a lot. This ole girl is going to be for prs 😁
First.