Did they waste their money on an RV inspection?
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They paid for an inspection and yet their AC didn't work from the get go! What happened?
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Hired independent inspector before we purchased a 17 yr old class a. Would never purchase any rv without inspection. Went ahead and purchased even with the few things they found but we used those for negotiations with rv dealer. Have had the rv for 9 years and still love it!
$190,000 will buy a lot of hotel rooms, plane tickets, and rental cars.
This is exactly what we decided to do and are loving it! Just returned from a 70+ day, 17,000km road trip to Palm Springs in our well equipped F150 and had an amazing time. We used a variety of hotel chains and Airbnb rentals and have zero regrets about our decision to NOT buy an RV
@@mikespies786 Yeah we get it Mikespies... you all over these comments saying you chose not to get an RV.
Thanks for your continued interest in my position on all of this. You seem angry for some reason. I’m not sure why. Everyone’s entitled to an opinion. I’m simply sharing mine for the broader audience. Perhaps stop paying attention to what I’m saying you might have a much better day. Cheers.!
When we were considering purchasing an RV (We no longer are thanks in large part to to channels like this one) our local RV Dealer said they don’t allow pre-inspections due to “liability and insurance restrictions”, and that their PDI was an extensive process designed to catch any issues, so a pre-inspection was not required nor allowed. HUGE RED FLAG for us and one of many “final straws” in our decision to walk away from the RV world. Sad to hear this inspector say she frequently finds anywhere from 5-30+ issues on each inspection. This industry is in deep trouble. Keep posting Liz, your work is appreciated and sadly, much needed in the moment.
Liz you have the best RV channel on RUclips
I feel that an RV inspection is definitely worth the money. However, it's probably important to interview several inspectors before hiring one. It would be nice to have a list of important questions to ask the inspector during an interview. That would be a helpful RUclips video.
Thank you, Gloria! I may need to do exactly that. I hired two inspectors on two different remote RV shopping experiences. Yes, the interview process is very important. Thanks for being here and have a great weekend!
A pre-purchase inspection, absolutely! But here's the question -- are certain designs so inherently bad that... there's no way for the inspection to catch flaws that reveal themselves within only a few miles on the road? Jammed slideouts, roof leaks, electronics glitches. Cabinets and wall pieces that come unfastened. Frame failure. All easily corrected at the design stage by using higher quality components and careful assembly. Liz, get your consumer paper up and running! We need to know who's good out there, amidst all the bad.
Yes, we sure do, Jon! I can't wait to get it rolling and amp up the pressure on the RV industry. Thanks for being in my corner!
Since Thor and Jayco want to mess around stop buying all Thor and Jayco products new. Let them pay for their products. Support Small Business RV producers
I think of an RV inspection or a mechanic inspection of a used car the same as I do some of these services such as CarFax. It doesn't guarantee you get a good one, but it may steer you away from a bad one. Given the amount of issues documented on Liz's channel, there is no way I would purchase an RV, new or used, without an inspection.
These manufacturers have no integrity, they know they are building poor quality RVs !
It's a wonder they can stay in business. Thanks for your comment!
It is worth it. We did not get an inspection before purchase-we should have. Many issues later and lots of frustration, I called an inspector. The leveling system was wired wrong-no wonder we couldn't level the blasted thing!
I would hire Deb in a flash if I needed an inspection as u want someone who has a good eye n cares about doing a good job. Liz & Deb 💪🏼. 🍻
Thanks SpykersB! I know your real name hehe!❤
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🔥🔥 Liz I’m glad you’re doing this. Don’t ever stop. I feel sorry for these people. I wish I had their phone number. I would love to chat with them. The lady that you had on as a guest, that is an RV inspector tell her to keep doing a good job. I’m very proud of her.
Thanks so very much for your support, Stick!!!
🔥🔥 Debbie I’m very proud of you. Keep doing a good job. You are an advocate for RV buyers don’t ever stop. Just so you know I’ve testified in lawsuits about RV dealers usually when I get involved it’s their worst nightmare. 🔥🔥
Thank you Stick! I appreciate it. They don’t want to mess with you!!
My boat inspectors insurance would cover any issues like this. A certified boat inspector takes a full day minimum to 24 hours sleeping on the boat!
I think if an inspector found 5 to 10 items wrong that would signal poor quality all around and one should move on.
Your channel is a blast to watch Liz. We too purchased a Thor Class-C product without a pre-inspection. I am very detail oriented and do not like things being out of my control. Not to mention I got dragged into RV life kicking and screaming (had my fill of 'camping' while in the service'). Part of my indoctrination to RV life was getting a handle on and my arms around every single system and component of the rig. After 'touching' everything I ended up with a list of about 40 concerns. Some serious, some not. We sold out when we relocated to be near our grandchildren and the couple who ended up buying the RV got it with most of those items addressed by us. The only real outstanding thing left was the reliability of the Schwintek whole wall slide out system which is bound to be it's Achilles heel (that one single item, once I realized how poorly engineered it was, started our quest to dump it asap).
Most RVs to me, are cobbled together. Once we've signed on the bottom line, we're stuck.
An inspection to me, would be best done by actually taking the rig on a full-blown shakedown cruise. That is probably impossible and would be way too expensive. So, vet your inspection service. I'd hire Deb's RV Services in a heartbeat after listening to her.
And, now we are rig-less, I miss it. It was nice to just get away. So, going forward, no more drivable RVs and used is NOT out of the question. Good luck everyone.
Edit: I noted Deb's comment regarding the suspension shackle bolt nut being loose. Wow, good find. The Thor/Jayco RV I mentioned above had a similar issue with its "J-Ride" helper springs in that it's shackle/attachment at the Ford leaf spring was within an 1/8" of an inch of slipping off the leaf it was intended to be on. Found that myself.
I wouldn't buy any RV without an inspection. I also follow several RV brand owners' pages on Facebook to get a feel for how they are treated after the sale. There are three that really stick out to me as being responsive and proactive.
It just seems like she is passing the buck. That was just wasted money for a rv inspection
Why are you trying to blame the inspector for a poorly designed, and manufactured rig?
Do you have x-ray vision?
There's only so much anyone can do when dealing with a newly constructed product that is designed to fall apart on the it's maiden voyage.
The solution is not to blame the inspectors, the solution is to demand that your state make RV manufacturers liable under automobile lemon laws.
Or have the Federal government impose building standards on them like what is done with tractor trailer rigs.
Who is passing the buck? I don’t understand.
25 - 30 faults on a brand new RV ? That's absolutely outrageous! These manufacturers should be ashamed of themselves!
I know it. It's so sad. It's a wonder they can stay in business putting out such poor quality. Thanks for your comment, Bruce, and for being here!
25-30 items could be anything from a major component not working because a wire came loose during transport (or maybe never was hooked up) to somebody who simply bumped into a cabinet face with a tool hanging out of their pocket and left a mark or countless other items. So a count of 25-30 actually seems quite low to me. It seems like a critical eye could easily spot a high number of "concerns" without even entering most RVs. I'm guessing individuals with a critical eye and a desire for near perfection probably just drive themselves nuts when it comes to RV ownership. Relax - Repair - Repeat!
Yes the manufacturer should be ashamed but the customer should be as well. As you said you have been doing this for the past two years so any buyer who is unaware at this point has little room to complain after the fact.
When I heard that I was shocked too.
You can find just as many defects in a brand new home, so don't be surprised at the defects of an RV. The difference is during a new home build you can have inspectors inspect the new home during construction before all electrical and plumbing is closed up behind walls. Same for the A/C ducting, roofing, and everything else during construction, especially custom home builds. You cant do that with a RV though. The inspections are after the build. But if you have a good RV Dealership, they will make things right before the purchase once the inspection is done.
Thanks, Liz, for letting this inspector talk about all that goes into getting a very thorough RV inspection. I'm curious, though, if a client has to sign a contract with the dealership first in order to hire an inspector? This inspector said once a dealership has a signed contract, it really doesn't care what happens after that. She also said basically that quality control inspections prior to moving an RV onto the sales lot are not happening. Why is the RV industry exempt from this important step and is not required to pass or fail a safe RV? And for a usual RV inspection to last 4-6 hours, these inspectors are getting paid well for a days work. It seems all the training to become a certified RV inspector is well worth the time and effort. Hopefully, more people will become inspired and interested in this as a career. As a suggestion, I think it would be a good move to have more RV inspectors on your channel to answer viewers' questions.
Some people have a refundable down payment or sign stating the purchase is dependent on a 3rd party inspection. The 4-6 hours is not all the inspector does. Behind the scenes we are researching the RV, travel to the location, spend the amount of time it takes to perform the inspection and then we come home and have to complete the report. The report itself can take several hours. As an inspector gains more time performing inspections they get more efficient. I can perform a 6-7 hour inspection is 5 hours. I’ve had a lot of time on the job. Price is still the same. My experience and education is also tied into that cost. It also depends on the year make and model of the RV. Tag axle diesel pushers are an exhausting all day job. Sometimes a full 8 hours. Thanks for the question!
The dealer’s pre-delivery inspection should catch everything the factory didn’t.
'should' is the key word. Reality is different. Dealers by me allow their technician 2 hrs for smaller tow behinds and 3 hrs for larger, more complex rigs.
Great information. Thank you, LIz
What a sad state the RV industry is in when new rigs require a 4-8 hour inspection. What other industry requires that?
Exactly!
It might get worse with talk of new deregulation rules for the vehicle industry.
You asked , so I'll tell you; The Marine industry (called a survey)and quite often in the aviation industry (Airworthiness inspection).
Also, many school busses get a minimum of two lengthy inspections. Once(or more) on the assembly line, and once when delivered. (I have a friend who does that)
Also the housing and commercial property industry. Inspections are a must.
Also buying plain land. A survey and title search is a must have.
These are just the ones I can think of offhand. Probably many more.
No fault of their own but folks go with the idea that it’s a home away from home. The more gingerbread the more things are going to break. One should be able to know these things are put together with staples glue and flimsy material to begin with.
IMO high dollar travel trailer’s/5th wheels are a disaster waiting to happen.
Yes, the more bells and whistles the more things can go wrong. You are exactly right, Jeff! Thanks for your comment.
AGAIN a person who doesn't hold the RV manufacturer accountable. how much are you paying? show me a disclaimer on the RV NEW that states do not live in the RV as a home away from home.
@@LizAmazing there is only one way Liz must not buy until quality improves. during Covid people accepted higher price n lower quality.
Yep people expect a 4 bedroom mansion on wheels and the only way to make these big rigs portable and drivable, without needing a Kenworth prime mover, they have to make them out of paper mache and plywood on a thin sheetmetal frame. Put together with staples. Then people want slide outs so they cut big holes in an already weak structure and now the whole thing is twisting and vibrating down the road, loosening staples, breaking silicone seals and causing slide outs to jam.
Unfortunately RV inspector certification is a commercial product, and under no oversight by state or federal government. One of the biggest inspector training companies has this disclaimer front and center in their listing of items an inspector gets training on :
“Although we try our hardest to ensure that our members are trained to be the best RV Inspectors in the industry, The National Recreational Vehicle Inspectors Association, Inc. does not make any representation or warranty as to the quality of RV Inspections done by its RV inspector members.”
Good luck to all those buying RVs, you’re going to need it.
First off I worked in the RV manufacturing factory, 5 yrs 1 end to the other , what i learned was if i ever spend the money for a new RV (unlikely) i will spend the extra for a inspection, of course i will be the inspectors shadow , money , and numbers is all the manufacturers are concerned about. .
Example we where pushed to push 20 , 27 ft. Bumper pulls out the door in 8 hours, that is dealership ready , let that sink in , QUALITY. OR QUANTITY , be safe out there, and do your own due diligence
Thanks for sharing this, Jess. If you'd like to share your experience working in the industry, send me an email. liz@lizamazing.com
I completely believe you about completing one in eight hours ! That’s exactly how many mistakes can happen! 😬
Sounds like Stanely Black & Decker. They also believe in quantity over quality
Wow. Terrifying.
Until Toyota starts making rv’s nothing will change. These companies don’t care. If the tires hold air it rolls out to the dealers.
As a licensed master electrician, an inspector is my best advocate! They sign off that my work complies with the current installation and safety standards.
I learn from them at times, and improve my skills. ALWAYS GET AN INSPECTION!!
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Hello there. I don't own an RV, but I enjoy your videos, and they give me a lot to think about if I'm ever able to afford one. I feel that hard-core QA at the factory is needed. Thank you 😊
You are so right about that!!! Thanks for your comment and feel free to share this video to help get the word out.
I agree! If I was part of administration or an owner of a RV manufacturer, THAT WOULD BE NUMBER 1 ON MY LIST. Come on manufacturers, QUALITY ASSURANCE!!!!!!!
Awesome information as always. I would love to see Debbie brought back from time to time to keep all updated and grounded on the inspection side of the industry. Thank you for what you are doing!
Thank you!!
Just like a house, the best time to see an RV is when it’s raining! For the house you can see if there are any flooding issues, leaks , etc. You can see if there are any leaks in the RV.
Sounds like the inspection needs to set aside more time to do a thorough inspection. Otherwise, the inspector needs to make sure that the customer understands there are areas of the inspection not covered if the time allowed is insufficient. My big question for the inspection is "Does a comprehensive inspection list that is approved by a majority of the inspectors in the country exist, and. if so, where is it and why is it not mandatory for all inspectors?" This list should be made available to all of the public so we can follow along with the inspector they hire. The inspection report should include what is inspected, what areas are tested, and how the inspection will be conducted on each item. Lastly, check with your inspector and ask what items WILL NOT be looked at. Interview several inspectors to see which ones are more thorough and a better value.
Exactly! Thank you for your thoughtful comment! I'll let Debbie answer the rest, thanks for watching.
Every client is given the points of Inspection. They are also given all the requirements to complete a proper inspection. The client has to discuss that with the dealer or seller to be sure all requirements are met. There are different levels of inspection and the prices reflect that. Thanks!
@ In the video, Liz shows an inspection report with pictures and no explanation of a) what is spec’s/req’d vs what was discovered in the inspection.
@@marshallpoe8087 Did you not bother hearing how many pages are in the final inspection report? Im sure everything was detailed, they was just showing some of the pics that was on a report.
Really great interview. Her explanation of possible causes for an inspection to not reveal some issues is very logical and plausible. RVs are very complicated.
I appreciate your kind words. I'm glad you found the interview helpful.
Why are you asking now if an inspection is worth it? You were the one always telling people they needed to get it.
Exactly!
Yes, campers are worth inspection! With a certified inspector it's better than just going blind.
Indeed! Thanks for your comment!
I will never, ever waste money on an RV inspection. I'll never buy an RV ;-)
We bought our used Newell Coach and had it inspected. We knew that there were things to fix and were willing to fix them on our time because all the BIG things ran and were in good shape. Considering we got it for under 100K for a 2007 Newell and the slides, Aquahot, motor, transmission and all new tires were good on the outside and no leaks in any water lines, new fridge, working dishwasher and both bathrooms work, we want to change the wood floors to vinyl, we got the dining seats recovered ( $550 for 6 pieces) and replaced curtains and shades ( under 250 for all)
So there is an entire industry that trains people to make sure another industry does their job correctly. Wow!
Thank you Liz..This is good stuff!😎
Sounds like anyone holding themselves out as an RV inspector needs to travel with a 240v/50A capable generator.
Sounds like it! I think most big dealers would have the connections an inspector needs. Debbie may feel differently though! Thanks for watching.
A decent inspector will always ask if there is adequate power and water available, and ask that the fridge be on for hours beforehand. Also they should ask if you have any specific focus items, such as if you want extra attention to moisture detection or thermal imaging to check insulation. The generator (Mine are 7500 W) is a heavy monster. Only by appointment will I load that bad boy.
Ya, but If anything went wrong electrically with the unit after hooking to a generator, I would bet the dealer and/or manufacturer would blame it on the generator. They already blame the frame failures on American Highways 💩. Hell, new home contractors blame any roofing issues on the inspectors.
I do not carry generators, propane or water. The dealership should have everything ready or a seller can take it to an RV park. The RV needs to be ready to inspect when I arrive. Thanks!
@@reverett0508 They may try, but I wouldn't want to defend that case unless the gen set is total garbage. Plus, the inspector could easily insert some power quality devices between the generator and the RV.
An inspection seems futile given how they’re manufacturing them now. Don’t buy new!
I've been saying beware of mass produced RVs these days. Small independent RV makers are the way to go, but do your research of course! Thanks for watching!
🔥🔥 I totally agree with Liz. It’s sad but the RV manufacturers do not care about their customers when everybody stops buying brand new RVs maybe the manufacturers will get a check up from the neck up. 🔥🔥🔥🔥
That philosophy does not fix the problems in the RV industry.
@@pupcamper58 Forcing the manufacturers to build better, or the rigs will just sit and rot at the factory? That sounds like the ONLY plan that will work, especially since nothing else has.
Growing up in the 60’s we couldn’t imagine expensive items that would not have been inspected by quality control personnel, either at the factory or dealership-
It’s just mind blowing
Keep up the great videos Deb and yes I would hire an inspector.
Thanks so much for your support, Keith!
Thanks Keith!
A must to have an inspection done.
You got that right! Thanks for your comment!
Very sad for the industry.
Yep. Brand new homes, same way!
As a retired heating engineer qualified to work on motorhomes etc, here in the UK. You test first doing a tightness test. If that confirms you have a leak, then you use the gas sniffer (preferably inside a ventilated building with signage around stating no naked flames and don't operate electrical switches etc) because unless it is an open pipe, small amounts of gas will blow away. Followed up by using leak detector fluid.
She was using the sniffer test as B roll for her video. I actually perform a timed leak test. Thank you!
For inspectors: what about this. I contract with you to inspect a "gently-used" towable at $1200 to check everything. You walk up on it and immediately see signs it's been in an undisclosed wreck; deal killer. It's been only five minutes, but it's pointless to look any further. Of course you can say that was worth it to me; I get it.
But I'm going to buy Something; I need you to look at my second and third choices. Can you apply a large percentage of the cost of the first (five-minute) inspection to the next one? And that could be one you walk in, smell mold, and walk out. I mean, I could be out $3600 before we find one even worth repairing.
Or do you offer a "quick look" deal where you tell me straight off whether we have something worth a full inspection? Otherwise I'm going to give up before I start.
Yes! I often tell my client that if I find a deal breaker I give a percentage back or apply it to a different Rv, your choice. I keep the first hour and travel time. Thanks!
All these fancy electronics are just problems in the future. Give me an older RV like the fifth wheel I own.
2008 Raptor Toy Hauler 40 footer. Yes it’s huge but it’s easy to work on. Manufacturers need to simply and go back to quality.
Great video! You have a lot of passion for helping people.
This is not an unusual occurrence. I had a home inspection from a professional organization and I can tell you they were nearly worthless and the only thing they found were cosmetic issues, I found the rest later on my own. There are RUclips channels like yours on the Internet that expose home inspectors on new homes pre-purchase, after purchase and one year after purchase and amazingly most of them are inept. So it doesn’t surprise me that it also affects the RV industry.
I do think it's so important to do thorough research before hiring an inspector: read reviews, interview several inspectors before making your selection. And ask the tough questions! Thanks so much for watching and for your comment!
Moths love roof AC units and can clog drains up overnight. The moths are inside the units. Need to look up some good videos on RUclips on how to clean the AC units so they don't drip inside your RV. Moths also get into heating units too. There are more videos to fix that too.
It sounds like the only recourse that you have against an inspector is a complaint. I'd even bet the document given to the customer by the inspector says that they aren't responsible for anything that they miss. Why isn't there any liability for the inspector?
The inspector carries insurance in case they damage anything so yes they can be liable.
@billsmith5166 My inspections have a disclaimer because 1.I am human, and just might miss something. If you request an ironclad contract requiring perfection or financial accountability for a missed item, I ask you to call another inspector. 2. An intermittent problem may exist, but not surface at time of inspection.
If a major component like a control panel is inoperable and thus other major systems can't be tested, the inspector should mark the inspection as a fail until such time as the system is repaired and a proper inspection can be done.
Exactly! And I think they do.
Well, so much for Brinkley being perfect because they cost more. This is the 3rd one I’ve seen lately with serious problems
In my opinion, inspections are a good thing, but having NRVIA (one school in Texas) certified inspectors is optional. Most of them spend 3-6 weeks learning their craft. An independent RV tech of many years in most cases can do a very thorough inspection. I'm a 27 year master RVIA certified RV tech (mobile) and do some inspections. My reports are not as fancy as the NRVIA software, or fees so high, but my inspections are thorough as a customer will allow me to be.
I have owner five new RV's and had problems with every one of them. Once you sign for the RV, the RV company washes their hands of it.
So frustrating. I sure hope they shape up and do better.Thanks for watching!
@LizAmazing It's sad we pay big money for our RV, and we only get a one year warranty. Then they sell you the extended warranty for big money. That's sad
It's really no different from a new home . A new home is inspected by city inspectors and released to be occupied . Once you move in you discover problems . The roof may leak , the stucco may crack . It can be endless . An hour long inspection can't catch the things that you find when using the RV .
Seems like RV Quality is no ones job.
I never heard any explanation for the inspection completely missing the biggest and most devastating issue: the water.
Saying that depending on wattage or something at the time isn’t a reason. That’s life. It’s almost blaming the situation rather than the inspector’s competence and accountability. NO-ONE is responsible!!!
Every one of these videos makes me even happier with my choice to do a simple build in my Transit van. I know everything about it and can maintain it all. ❤ It has spent zero days in the shop!!
Hi Cadence. As we said in the video, it’s likely that the condensation took a while to show up and the air conditioners were not run long enough, or it might have needed two or more ACs on at once to replicate the problem. If the inspector did not have 50 amp, he would’ve been limited to running one AC at a time when testing. Thanks so much for watching!
When i got my new travel trailer i inquired about an rv inspection from a regional inspection company. After speaking she told me it would be a thousand dollars to do it. As much as i would have liked to i couldn’t justify spending that much money for a brand new rig. I thought the fee was going to be much lower. Fortunately i have had no real major issues with my trailer ….i got lucky. That being said when i purchase my next new trailer i definitely will pay the fee for the inspection . That i learned from years of rving.
Get a water hose and open all the slides. Then start on the roof and spray water all over the RV. Now check for leaks and bring a moisture meter!
I tried that when trying to find a leak in my RV. A hose would not replicate it, only a steady rain. That was good to know. Thanks for watching!
I've had several car dealerships over the years encourage me to keep the car overnight whenever I was deciding whether to purchase it or not. Do RV dealers allow potential buyers to spend the night in the unit prior to purchase?
They need people like her to work in the manufacturing companies. Fat chance!
They just want compliance from their employees, Do it and do it fast.
Hi! Does Debbie live full time in a Lazy Daze motorhome? That is what we have and I have to say, a wonderful quality built rig with no problems in 4 years!
When I worked at a car dealer ''' New '' cars I seen cars go out that would not pass a safety check, I complained to 3 people in charge and was told to let it go and we will fix it under warranty later,
1 went out with only 1 bolt holding the master cylinder for the break system,
They let a big truck that was bought for a 5th wheel camper go without greasing the U joints or ball joints and they knew this family was going on a 1000 mile road trip and paid extra to make sure it was well looked over, They parked that truck for 2 days then called and told him it was all set, They let another go with broken wires for the security system knowing when it rained the car would lock and have to be towed back,
New means nothing today and all the computers means you can be left stranded at any time.
Oh my, wow, I bet you could write a book about working at that dealership! Thanks for sharing, and for watching.
I don't see how an inspector can find leaks like some of these people have if it's not raining, A/C problems in the winter, Heater problems in the summer, screws or bolts backing out over time, defects in the frame, etc... I'm sure they can find a lot of things and having testing equipment would help but there's so much that goes wrong in use, I'd say it's maybe worth it depending on cost but they aren't going to find everything and what they don't find could be serious issues.
❤ Regarding roof inspections. I have first hand knowledge and experience on those sealers the manufacturers use. Looking at the roof I thought the seal surface looks solid and leak proof, but they are actually porous. I had several transit busses that had that issue with rain pouring onto the driver no mechanic could find it. After researching the history of complaint I decided to remove and scrape it all off and found the trails of corrosion thru the sealer into the ceiling around the vent/escape hatches in the front and in the back. Why this type of sealer is still being used i can't say. But I cleaned it all off to the metal and used a clear bathtub sealer (silicone). I let the silicone dry,, the spray painted my work around the hatch with rustolium satin white spray paint. It took me a long time to make the repairs but it was happening over 4yrs. It was worth it to finally get it fixed right. This was on 4 transit busses that supposedly were refurbished. 4 busses and 4 years later. I hope my post here helps you, your patrons, and the manufacturers. That sealer is really poor. Why it works on some and not on others has me baffled. But that sealer is the problem
Well Peter, as a master certified RV repairman of 27 years, I'll share this with you...Stick with Dicor products made for your roof material and you can't go wrong. Silicone sealant is for tub surrounds, and has absolutely no use on RV roofs, except maybe on an emergency basis until the proper sealant is available.
Are you aware busses and RVs flex as they go down the road, and should have annual inspections and touch-ups to the roof? It's true. They flex like a big ice cube tray.
You need to do it YOURSELF. If you don't, it is all on YOU. You should use at least a half day to "look" at all systems and materials. Great video!
Seriously? Not everyone can crawl around under a RV. Not everyone knows what to look for on the RV. You probably part of a small percentage that can actually do this yourself.
Is an inspection worth it? - yes, to some extent. An inspection can certainly identify potentially serious items related to chassis/running gear items but can't find many of the things which occur after driving the unit for a while, particularly in rainy weather.
Absolutely sad that in today’s world you have to hire an inspector to inspect a “New” RV. Gone are the days of manufactures caring about their customers, it’s greed and profit above all else, screw the consumer! Liz, thank you for your videos and advice to give people the best opportunity for having an enjoyable RV experience. 👍
Even the best inspector can't find every problem. Something will happen as the RV is towed down the road, and it will shake its shelf to pieces. Part of the problem is that people must educate themselves before making an inexpensive purchase. Campers are hand-built by some people with very little training or experience. Speed is a priority, and mistakes will be made. You can take a factory tour to see how a particular brand is built. If the workers are running and the place is a mess, it is likely that many mistakes will be made in what they are building.
As they say, if you buy an RV you need to be handy. You'll either become handy...or go broke! Thanks for your comment!
I think if I had an RV inspection checklist I could inspect most everything, borrow whatever instruments I would need. But the big question is how much is a licenced inspection? Under $250 I'll let Deb do it.
Most all RV’s are built in Indiana, a state with a minimum wage of $7.25/hour. Does anyone believe these RV manufacturers can attract highly skilled workers with strong work ethic when they are paying low wages? I doubt it. Many of these workers could care less about quality and craftsmanship and that’s a fact proven on Liz’s channel each week. RV manufacturers are another example of corporate greed on steroids and until we demand strict consumer protection laws regulating the RV industry, nothing is going to change.
I like Cedar Creek fifth wheel. They are made in Topeka IN and just 2 miles from the factory is a man that only works on Cedar Creek’s and he is good
No one is working for min wage.
What does an hourly rate have to do with someone's work ethic?
Don't be stupid. The amish wouldn't get their horses out for $7.25 an hour.
It's not the wages, it's time constraints to get products finished quickly. A predetermined post build pre delivery failure rate to after sale warranty repairs cost ratio. Having an Attorney General beholden to corporate donor money adds insult to injury.
I started in the rv industry back in 1986 nothing new has changed its the same old thing
Wow, Jim. I think you got me beat by a couple years! Thanks for watching/
The problem with the inspection is that if they miss stuff you can’t go after them, just like a home inspection.
That has to be changed, if you miss stuff you should be held accountable
Is that true? If you or an inspector miss problems upon purchase, you can’t get them fixed? Are you sure? And then your final sentence, “…if you miss stuff you should be held accountable.” Do you mean “shouldn’t”?
@ held accountable, what good does the inspection do if it’s a fly bye Inspector
@rvhome5599. No company will guarantee they catch everything, and will refuse to be held financially responsible. To ask for that is unrealistic.
Would you hold a doctor financially accountable for missing a disease? Of course not.
Love watching your channel and thanks to you showing the truth i will never buy an rv..
Well spoken inspector. I can only say that an independent inspector is not an option for you before you sign. Great video Liz!
Before you sign, the dealer should allow an independent inspection. If they don't, walk away! Thanks for watching, Stuart!
Yes on inspection and as crazy and sad as this sounds I think it is way more important on NEW rigs over used. I wonder on last weeks video where the inspection was done and weather at the time. AC condensation is way different in humid Florida when it is hot versus a more moderate temperature and humidity. With that said it is terrible how those people were treated. Keep up the fight Liz and Debbie!
Hi Dan! Thanks so much!!! I think the inspection was in the midwest in May, but who knows what the weather was that day, how long they ran the AC, and if they ran all three at once. So many variables for sure!
My understanding was that these ac units are a new design that may not be installed so that they can work correctly. Isn't that what was wrong? The manufacturer needs to step up and at minimum install these ac correctly or change to a different model and repair all damage. Since none of this is the fault of the buyer a replacement rig would be more than fair.
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Hi Kathy! No, I have not, I will have to add those to my list, thank you. I love how tasty they are, and generous portions too!
I love these RV horror stories.
It sure is a good idea get a inspection done before you buy
Indeed. Please share this video to help spread the word!
The biggest concern about inspection is that they dont check the most important safety things like frame flex, suspension, brakes etc .....
Most of the FifthWheel have drum brakes, do they go on the road with the units ..... NO, do they go on the road to test the suspension NO (mostly a visual "control"), do they measure the flexibility of the frame NO.
Unfortunately rv inspectors are the exact copy of the "industry" they only look to what is shining ..... in the best case.
Inspection is a good idea, but the way it's done .....
I just don't understand why this inspection is not done at the factory?
A final Quality Inspection must be done by the manufacturer.
Just saying...
Exactly!!
25-30 items she finds wrong!!?? As low as 5??!!
That is 1 too many for a brand new rig hot off the press!!
Something needs to change at the factory. What happened to BUILT IN THE UNITED STATES and being proud of that craftsmanship? I would be embarrassed to tell my friends/family that I work at a place that made travel trailers, 5th wheels, Class A B & Cs.
I'm just blown away!
I have been thinking about doing the courses at the NRVTA. 🤙
Was the people who had all of the water issues using a certified inspector on their new RV? That is an important consideration. If so, he could be liable for such a serious issue for the Air Conditioning system. He obviously missed that.
I've got news for everyone... home inspectors miss things as well. So do plumbers, mechanics, dentists, doctors, painters... Also consider that as crappily built as most RVs are these days it may take some driving to make the unit to flex around and pulling/shaking itself apart. The problem here isn't necessarily the inspector but rather the manufacturer, especially when it comes to performing warranty work! Imagine buying a new car and it having an issue but they refuse to repair it correctly, sometimes to the point they try get off by saying, "Too bad, but your warranty is over."
And there are even people that have admitted that they heard RVs are poorly built but they thought if they threw even more money at one they would be safe. It's ridiculous to think that. The more toys, the more issues you're going to have. People buy a lot of junk from offshore manufacturers and think, "Huh, oh well. I should have known better, but I really wasn't expecting much to begin with." So now they think domestic builders aren't going to take the same attitude? The people that own and run these companies didn't work and sweat to build a business, they twisted and finagled money around, sold off the good stuff and began building garbage. Name one product built today that is better built than it was twenty years ago.
Thank you so much, Carl for your wise words! Very helpful indeed! Sure glad to have you here, have a great weekend.
@@LizAmazing I'm sad that I'm always bearing the cold slap of reality, I'm really not this guy IRL. I was a pro' tech for fifty years and there's nothing new about any of this. It all began going downhill twenty five or so years ago and it's tough to find anything worth buying since 2005 or so. So many manufacturers were bought up by those that didn't care about product quality, they just wanted to shove a pretty face out the door and rake in the cash.
Good point.
@@carlbeaver7112 I agree with most of what you said, except I have 2016 RV that was made very well. (Grand Design 303RLS). I know lots of people who are very happy with their RVs that were made prior to 2020.
Bottom line, only buy pre-covid builds.
Thank you for the video Liz. You do a wonderful and important work.
Blue Ox Inspections has videos that show consumers in detail what they look for, things I would have never known about and how the industry really hides some of there defects...
I also have a RUclips channel @debsrvservices where I have videos about things I find on the job. Thanks!
Hi Liz, I’m just wondering what an inspection from a certified inspector costs. Can you ballpark a range? Thanks.
Hi Theresa, I'm thinking $800 to $1400 for a full inspection depending on if we are talking a small travel trailer or a large motorhome with lots of amenities. Debbie will likely comment with more accurate info! Thanks for watching!
Hi Theresa, it does depend on the type and year. A travel trailer is around $800 but and Class A can be $1300-1500 on avg but some prices are different with each inspector and with the age of the RV. Also, some inspectors like me offer a walkthrough inspection which is time based where we walk through it together. That is a lower price point. Hope this helps.
@ thank you!
Liz, if the inspector was suggest by the dealer then they will not do a proper job for the customer. They won't upset the dealer because that is their "employer" they are really the one feeding the inspector.
Well, for one thing there is cheap labor building these trailers, also lots of pressure to get the trailer built and going to the next one. "NO QUALITY CONTROL" at the factory.
Four to eight hours for an inspection of a brand new camper! That's crazy. How much do these inspections cost?
That’s a good question and I am also wondering if there are different levels of inspection. For instance, a certain amount for just the exterior, or just electronics, etc.
They can cost around $800 to $1500 depending but some inspectors like me offer other types where it is time based and we perform a walkthrough inspection. Those have lower prices points. Thanks!
How many people that pay to become a certified inspector fail the class? I bet zero. Not every inspector is the same.
Question about inspection? Let's say you have an inspection an got a list of repairs.needed.. The repairs have been done, does the inspector come back out to check repairs if your a lamen how do you know if repairs are properly done?
There are ALREADY enough examples of All these so called RV's. Don't waste the money. Either the engine or the electrical is going to break down! They are only equipped for temporary recreation. Not retirement living on-the-road. Get an older reliable comfortable Pickup Truck, Get comfortable Hotel rooms, Live Happy! Avoid all the mechanical breakdowns...these companies are not capable of building Dream Homes on Wheels.😊
She was referring to if the rv was a 50amp but only a 30amp was available
@@lovinglife69 doesn't matter...they are crap! Go ahead and waste Your money! My Right To My Opinion!
@@zorromaskedman685
Calm down 😆 I was just letting you know. Geez
Have a good weekend!
Hey from San Antonio Tx
Hi there! Thanks for watching!
Only industry you need something new inspected cause the manufactor doesn't like to warrenty anything. No quaility control or customer service. It's your problem. Government needs to step in. They do cars, foods, houses, housing ect.
It is sad when one has to hire an inspector to inspect " BRAND NEW" RVs. Nobody does this in the auto industry. I think it speaks to more regulations and consumer protection.