Can't use the crown Vic intake, it aims the wrong direction, also you don't need to swap wire harnesses. Otherwise spot on video. Edit: some of the panther platforms have oil coolers on the filter housing, which the mustang chassis doesn't support, so if it has the cooler replace it with the mustang housing.
Some great info I forgot to mention right here. For sake of simplicity though, it’s easier to reuse your mustang harness. I was pretty sure you can use the Vic intake manifold but have to swap the plenum to a mustang one. I believe the manifolds are the same for both.
Well wish me luck ive watched videos for months and i kicked it around in my head until i found a chasis to build and i found a solid car yesterday and i went to get it, ended up being a 3.8, talked him down to 1700 going to buy a 4.6 4v next week and a T3650 so we’ll see how it goes. Thanks for the info and hope to have similar results
I mean I used a 2010 f140 4.6 2v. Swapped pick up tube, oil pan. Valve covers, front covers, and intake for the mustang one and it worked fine. It's called modular for a reason
Modular is actually derived from the engine assembly setup in the manufacturing of the engine and being able to swap engine assemblies between 4.6, 5.4 and 6.8
I just kind of wished they had made a Crown Victoria Station Wagon from the factory. I have seen quite a few Crown Vics made into convertibles and they don't look that great to me. But it would be cool if they had come out with a 2 door version of it.
This literally looks just like my mustang I just got it back from the people I sold it too and never thought I would ever get it back in a million years can’t wait to get it looking nice as yours!!
@904Saleen Hey so I just bought a 09 grand marquis motor with 49k miles. waiting on it to come this friday hopefully when i pop the valve covers it looks good in there. thanks for the vid I'll be sure to swap out the parts listed in the video.
@@phinphan1467 good i just got 1000 miles on it, is been done for a month. i got a engine from a grand marquis with 98,000 miles de engine look so clean, im happy
Need to swap your injectors and fuel rail if your putting in a newer crown vic motor other than that its spot on. Also the coolant temp sensor on newer 4.6 is on the head under the intake manifold sonyou will have to wire it up to factory harness as new intakes dont have the original temp sensor location drilled and tapped on the newer crownvic 4.6.
I’ve gotta 94 cobra soon to do a supercharger. I’m in the 904 looking for people to cruise with and talk cars. Love the build man keep up the good work
@John S the car was originally tuned by Tony at Tuners Inc. in Orange Park on SCT. But since my motor and trans swap, it has been tuned on HPTuners by Andrew from @MustangLifestyleTV. He doesn't do tuning full time, just kind of for fun and experimenting right now. He's currently learning Motec for his soon to be 1500WHP Twin Turbo GT500, but has tuned a few 2V cars on the side for his friends, including my car.
@@904Saleen Gotcha! Ive got a 01 with a KB 2.1 tunned at a shop in dallas texas but im looking to get it tuned again. Seems like Tony G is the only game in town for the ford stuff.
@@johns9779 I'm sure that KB sounds awesome. Tony definitely will tune it, but there is also Stage 6 Motorsports who I visited for my dyno day in the last video. They specialize in Dodge but work on Chevy and Ford as well. Service, repairs and builds along with Tuning on their dyno.
You’re speaking facts I bought my engine from a 2004 Roush 30k miles Now about 75k and I paid more than double what you’d pay for a crown Vic, but that’s what I wanted so 🤷🏻
I wish the Coyote swap would have been this easy. I think I'll keep my 4.6 2V and put a supercharger on it. It's nice to know that there are so many options for the SN95 Mustang even today. I'll have to keep the Crown Vic in mind when it comes time to replace my stock 4.6.
The Tork Tech supercharger system is a great option when the time comes to boost it. They are relatively affordable and allow you to run any 03/04 Cobra Headunit
Almost forgot some crownvic grandmarquis will require you to keep thier specific accessory belt as the mustangs have an extra idler pulley on the passengerside which the grandmarquis crown vic wont have... this is only on some.. the last crown vic motor i got was a 2011 and it didnt have the pulley but the timing cover did have the spot on the timing cover to swapnit over.. another 2008 grandmarquis 4.6 did not have this location drilled and tapped on the timing cover
Also running the Vic/GM pulleys and belt routing no problem. My car is cammed, FBO, geared, and dyno tuned by lee blankship. I have videos on my channel. I have tubular K member now, but i have stock K member and suspension with GM/ oil pan no prblem. Stock mustang motors mounts too. I even left the cold weather heated pcv cam coverslolol.
im 17 and i got a 2004 mustang gt but the motors kinda messed up but my uncle gave it to me and know he has kidney and liver failure but i want to build it in memory of him but i just need to motivate my self to fix it but i wanna try to get the terminator engine to swap it but there so much money
Man I’m sorry to hear that. But that sounds like an awesome project to remember him with. You can always look into like some other 4vs. 99/01 Cobra or 03/04 Mach 1 motors will work. Lincoln Aviator/MK8 motors will also work. My friend Blake has an Aviator 4v with like 180k miles in his Terminator that he got a roller with a ported Eaton and the full blower kit he strapped on to it. Running on E85 and is making a bunch of steam. Definitely close to if not 500whp and it’s still running strong. @Certified Rippers has some videos of his build you should go check out if you’re looking to do a 4v setup.
I don’t know much about the explorers but I’d imagine with those being the older 302 SBF or the 4.0L V6, the process will be more involved if you’re wanting to drop a 4.6 2v in it. If you have a good 302 in it though, there’s some things you can do to give them a decent power bump on a budget too
Thank you! It’s been a long journey with this car. When I first started it, I didn’t even know how to change the oil. And now I’ve done pretty much everything on this car short of painting it and installing the convertible top.
At 12:08 The man himself I do believe, Steve Saleen.. I knew a guy from California that moved to my neck of the woods in the early 1990's and he called Saleen Mustangs Sayleen Mustangs.. Lol.. I said you mean Saleen Mustangs and he corrected me.. No, Sayleen Mustangs.. I basically had no way to prove him wrong. Most people in GA from where I'm from had never heard of a Saleen Mustang and there was no internet with RUclips.. All I had was magazines That read Steve Saleen or Saleen Mustang and to him that was open to interpretation ( His pronunciation left a lot to be desired ) .. Now everytime I see one I say it's a Sayleen Mustang... Lol
Lots of internal differences he neglected to tell you 96- 00 crown vics are NPI engines. They Have Different cyl heads/intake/pistons. Cylinder head ports are much smaller than the later PI. NPI pistons have less of a dish. (more comp) A lot of Old schoolers will take a NPI with block and pair it with PI cyl heads and PI intake for a bump in compression. My personal build is just that, with 11 pounds of boost from a vortech centri blower.
I was covering newer 2vs only just because that’s what most people are likely to find and buy. I do feel that maybe I should’ve covered that. A lot of people are looking for a fast and easy swap, and they are way more likely to get their hands on a 2001 or newer motor. In terms of those PI 2v, there are very few differences
I have a 2000 GT I swapped a 07 Vic into it. I might need a tune of what I understand. It's running okay in 1st then I shift it into 2nd @3k and it bogs down it's the same 2nd-3rd. When it's at that point it won't speed up and I have to stop it to restart to process of getting it home safe. Any help would be great! ( Changed the sparks, coils, fuel pump and filter) Long tube heads, cat back exhaust, CAI for mods
Hard to diag without seeing what its doing. Is this an auto or manual car? Also are you still running the stock MAF/Fuel Injectors? The car should run fine with the mods you listed, but if you changed the MAF or fuel injectors without a tune it would throw everything off.
@@904Saleen it's manual and I did change the fuel injectors but should be OE just blue colored as I felt that was the problem originally and bought new to switch it
Ik this comment will not be seen but i have a 04 Vic P71, and a 04 Mustang GT Vin X, My question is my mustang is a manual gearbox, will the CVPI engine work with it cause i was thinking about getting my Vic Engine built for the mustang to put a keene bell suppercharger.
Don’t worry brother, I try to check my comments almost every day, especially on this video! And yes, you should have no issues building that motor and pairing it with your manual transmission
All depends on what you want to do, and what your budget is. Coyote and Godzilla are new platform and cost quite a bit more to do stuff with. With the 2v or even a 4v, you can build it for relatively cheap, and power adders like On3 single or twin turbos or even TorkTech, Saleen or Vortec superchargers can be picked up pretty inexpensively
I have a 2000 mustang gt with a 02-03 crown Vic engine swapped in it, I was wanting to put a on3 turbo kit on the car. Besides the tubular k member and coil overs will the on3 turbo for the 99-04 mustangs work on the crown Vic motor? Thanks for any help!
Correct me if I’m wrong but I’m very sure Crown Vic’s gms, town cars actually have different cam grinds than the mustang and f150, less hp slightly more torque
The info is spotty but I've heard that before. The F-150 I know for a fact have a different grind, but I believe the panther chassis cars and the Mustangs are the same.
Aye! I have a 01 Grand Marquis. I don't want to do a Coyote swap. I don't like the way they sound. I can't figure out if I should keep the 4.6 Sohc or go 4.6 DOHC. What's your opinion?
It all depends on what you intend to do with the car. Staying with the older mod motors is more cost effective especially when it comes to power adders. Plus they are pretty much plug and play in comparison to a coyote swap
Hey i have a question so u basically took the v8 motor and put the svt supercharger on it? was it just bolt on to the crown vic or did you have to change other things.
This is a Saleen Series 2 supercharger which is basically a Magnuson MP90. The Cobra has an Eaton M112 which is whole different setup. If you're looking to install a Cobra blower on your car, I'd look into the Tork Tech kit. It allows you to run any blower designed to fit on a Cobra.
@@904Saleen well right now i have a v6 i was going to do what you did and put a town car into my car and i was just wondering how supercharging it would work also what other stuff would you upgrade.
I'd look into some of the supercharger kits that are available. Some kits like the Tork Tech will need the separate purchase of other supporting mods, and the blower itself, and require some modification as well. Saleen kits, if they are complete will bolt on directly and just need a tune, but there are some mods to fix some defects I would highly recommend. Another great kit is one from Jonse Speedlab which is basically a modernized version of the Saleen S281-E 2.3L Whipple Kit which comes with everything you need. You can also go the Vortech route too.
I got a crown vic donor but my mustang is a v6. What all do i need to swap over other then the motor and obviously the transmission also. Change out computer and wiring harness. Driveshaft and rear-end
Only the S281 Extreme’s did. They had the same rods and pistons the Terminators had along with a 2.3 Whipple from factory. All other S281’s were stock blocks
Very very nice video. Im considering getting a clean 00 gt with a bad motor. If i do im thinking of doing some cams and a small shot. Have you ever done cams?
How easy would this be to do in a SN95. Or if I have a strong stock to valve already by strong I mean decently low mileage and very well maintained would have you better picking up a vortec and putting it on bad motor or doing the engine swap with no boost
The sn95 is a pretty similar process. Just rather than using the Coil on Plugs, you’d use the coil packs with wires. If you trust the motor, then by all means go for it and throw some boost at it
I have a 04 mach 1... will this work for that as well? I was looking at doing a gt 4.6 and swapping tthe heads. I've been told the water jets are different from the cobra and mach 1 to the gr and other 2 valve 4.6. Anyone have any knowledge about this
As far as I'm aware, you should be able to swap the heads and be good to go. The 4v's in the 99-01 Cobras, Mach 1s, Marauders use the same block casting, pistons, and rods as a 2v. The main difference just being the top end. But the motor swap should look roughly the same overall in terms of process, minus swapping the heads/timing if you choose the go that route.
Ok so I’m looking to swap a 5.4 2v the ford lighting motor without superchargee the triton and I wanna swap in it a s197 it’s an 8 bolt sled plate plan on getting a car without engine or blown engine then swapinf the 5.4 2v swap should it bolt right up if it’s a 8 bolt right ? I don’t wanna mess with a lot just wanna swap the 5.4 2v in so later on I can put a lightning superchargee shouldn’t need new place or harnes or anything just need guidance
Well if you’re swapping it into a 4.6 3v car, so 05-10 the motor should fit in. I’m not 100% sure if coyote cars use the same motor mount system. Your 3v ecu may be able to run the 5.4 2v but I’m not too sure. I know I’ve seen 3v motors run off the 2v ecu with cam phaser lock outs but idk if it can be done the other way around.
From what I’ve heard, the truck engines may require a timing cover swap but I’m not entirely sure of that. I do know it will require these same things swapped on to it for it to go in. Someone who has done the swap with a truck motor may be able to chime in on this
Knock Sensors were removed. The GT's don't support them unfortunately. May be able to get it working if you ditched the ECU for a Holley but that's the only thing I can think of.
The 4R70W if maintained can be a good transmission. The gearing is just rather long. If you're staying NA, I'd recommend pairing it with some higher gears like 4.10s. If you're going boosted, I wouldn't swap to any gears higher than 3.73s. Just be weary about the overdrive servo failing. It can cause a slip from 3rd to 4th gear. But those transmissions with some cranked up line pressure can shift hard and fast.
@@904Saleen weird yea it’s Deff shorter and if u put both dipstick tubes in and side by side they don’t sit at the same length and with the Vic pan being deeper and having the shorter tube u would think with the shorter mustang pan and with how far it sticks out it shouldn’t be right so that’s weird it’s reading level
@@The1Perfume must be. I had questioned whether it would work during my swap but found it to be consistently accurate. My motor has seen 3 oil changes since it’s swap and has been right on the dot each time.
@@904Saleen sweet!!! I still wouldn’t trust it, though is like reasoning in Common sence would say it can’t be right because if the crown Vic had a deeper pan and a shorter tube so the dipstick would sit deeper in the pan for correct reading for using a shorter Pam, and still that longer tubes of the dipstick since deeper cant right and I’ve been reading that on some forms to saying, you got a swap, the dipstick tube, and I almost didn’t until I noticed that there are two totally different sizes, but yet the dip sticks are the same so I mean I wouldn’t I wouldn’t do it but your car looks pretty sweet, so do you
@@904Saleen Just part availability for me rn, wondered if it was possible to use the vic intake but just the shift by wire/accelerator pedal assembly from a manual 2000 mustang. I'd be using the mustang ecu
@@whathuh4446 well you should be able to use the Vic intake, but I’m pretty sure you’re going to have to put on a mustang plenum/throttle body with the drive by cable setup. All 99-04 mustangs are drive by cable
You don't have to. I didn't on mine because they are sometimes a pain to remove. It is a little bit tighter trying to get to it when checking the oil after the motor is dropped in, but not difficult by any means
Never seen a 2v swap in an S197. Not sure if it's even worth doing or if it's ever been done. On paper the 2v will make more than the 4.0 V6 in the 2005-2010 V6s, but the 3.7 from 2011-14 makes much more power than the 2v.
You can keep your Mustangs ECU and the valve covers don’t need to be changed. I only changed mine because I got a said of trick flow covers that I liked the look of
I’m not sure. I’m not very knowledgeable on the Lincoln LS. I know they are more of a Jaguar based platform than Ford. Someone else in the comments here might know!
Crown Vic ECU is detuned. But it’s the same EECV ECU in the earlier cars as the 2v mustangs. I think the later crown Vic’s started using a different version of EECV or moved on to the same ECU platform as the 3v mustangs
It will fit, but I would search for another 4v first. Lincoln Aviators/Navigators/MK8s have them. And the aviator motors are aluminum block and high compression too!
You literally don't have to change oil pan or dip stick if its a panther motor. I have a 1997 GT with a 2008 grand marquis motor. used the stock marquis pan and dip stick. The dip stick is much lower in the engine bay on a mustang but its not a big deal to reach in and pull it out. The intake is the same too except some only had one coolant temp sensor which ran ECU and cluster. I just wired my sn95 to one CTS.
It can be done, but you'll need the electronics from a 99-04 car along with I believe a different K member. I do know there are some videos and forum posts on swapping 2v and 4v motors into the Foxbody. It seems like a pretty well documented topic.
Can probably get in the upper 300s to mid 400s with a max effort NA 2v build. I’m sure it can be done if you go high compression, cams, ported heads, oversized valves, E85, full exhaust and a good intake setup
NA with simple bolt ons and tuned I’ve seen them make in the 250-280whp range depending on how it was treated and mods. With boost you’re safe to about 450whp
The T-45 5spd in 96-00 GT, and the TR-3650 from 2001-2004 GT, along with the T-56 from 2003-2004 Cobra will work with these motors. The 4R70W automatic 4spd will as well
Just one thing, the 2011 Crown Victoria P71 was only offered to law enforcement agencies. After 2008 you could not buy a crown victoria as a consumer, you could only buy them as fleet vehicles. P71 packages were never offered to the general public.
Ah ok gotcha. Thanks for that clarification. It might’ve been that the car my motor came from never got dressed up with the light bar and push bar. It might’ve been used elsewhere.
@@904Saleen No worries! I nerd out over those old panther bodies pretty damn hard. It’s neat to see people taking the engines out of them and putting them into something a little faster, I wasn’t aware that it was a very common swap! Really neat stuff
Can't use the crown Vic intake, it aims the wrong direction, also you don't need to swap wire harnesses. Otherwise spot on video.
Edit: some of the panther platforms have oil coolers on the filter housing, which the mustang chassis doesn't support, so if it has the cooler replace it with the mustang housing.
Some great info I forgot to mention right here. For sake of simplicity though, it’s easier to reuse your mustang harness. I was pretty sure you can use the Vic intake manifold but have to swap the plenum to a mustang one. I believe the manifolds are the same for both.
@@904Saleen you are correct about the plenum swap. Same intake
Thank you guys for being those dudes that know this shiz... My 3.8 is begging for life lol it is at 290,000 and barely hanging in there haha...
Same engine the intakes the opposite side.
Literally about to do this swap, this video was perfectly timed
Did ya do it yet?
Any updates?
Just found out the sn95 I bought is blown, trying to decide if I wanna do this or just sell it
2011 mustang gts I have seen selling for 5k rebuilt titles hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm I would just find a whole car before all that
Well wish me luck ive watched videos for months and i kicked it around in my head until i found a chasis to build and i found a solid car yesterday and i went to get it, ended up being a 3.8, talked him down to 1700 going to buy a 4.6 4v next week and a T3650 so we’ll see how it goes. Thanks for the info and hope to have similar results
Good luck man! You got this!
I mean I used a 2010 f140 4.6 2v. Swapped pick up tube, oil pan. Valve covers, front covers, and intake for the mustang one and it worked fine. It's called modular for a reason
Modular is actually derived from the engine assembly setup in the manufacturing of the engine and being able to swap engine assemblies between 4.6, 5.4 and 6.8
@@centraltexasfoxbodieswait so I can swap a 6.8 into my sn95?
@@centraltexasfoxbodiesplease lmk am looking at engines to purchase rn actually
@toxicity6629 yes google is your friend, it's a 5.4 with 2 extra cylinders
Wow imagine having a crown Vic convertible with a 5Speed 🤩 🤯
That's something I've always wanted to have!
I just kind of wished they had made a Crown Victoria Station Wagon from the factory.
I have seen quite a few Crown Vics made into convertibles and they don't look that great to me.
But it would be cool if they had come out with a 2 door version of it.
It was a guy in New York who had one without the 5 speed though
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Yes, imagine driving the UGLIEST crown vic EVER..!
This literally looks just like my mustang I just got it back from the people I sold it too and never thought I would ever get it back in a million years can’t wait to get it looking nice as yours!!
That’s awesome you got it back!
@@904Saleen For sure got my work cut out for me but looking forward too it!
My car was stolen after 2 years of building it, highly customized and recognizable. This comment gave me hope. Glad you got your car back my guy 🔥🔥
Nice motorweek intro dude! You've got a killer car man. Great info on the swap as well.
bro this is fantastically methodical and extremely informative, top to bottom. you killed the presentation. bravo. subbed and liked.
Thank you!
@904Saleen Hey so I just bought a 09 grand marquis motor with 49k miles. waiting on it to come this friday hopefully when i pop the valve covers it looks good in there. thanks for the vid I'll be sure to swap out the parts listed in the video.
Awesome! Glad this video's been helpful for you! Feel free to post any questions and I'll try to answer them!
thank you for the info im about to do a crown swap. hopefully next week
Good luck with it!
How’d it turn out?
@@phinphan1467 good i just got 1000 miles on it, is been done for a month. i got a engine from a grand marquis with 98,000 miles de engine look so clean, im happy
@@trxcorsair awesome 😎
Need to swap your injectors and fuel rail if your putting in a newer crown vic motor other than that its spot on. Also the coolant temp sensor on newer 4.6 is on the head under the intake manifold sonyou will have to wire it up to factory harness as new intakes dont have the original temp sensor location drilled and tapped on the newer crownvic 4.6.
Thank you bro
THANK YOU FOR SAVEING HER SHE IS READY AMEN
Also people need to know best combo is the non PI bottom end is better with PI-heads and intake.
If, you're looking for a good OEM plus setup and don't mind digging that deep into the motor, I agree
IMO more cost effective from performance standpoint are Trick Flow heads than PI ones.
This video is extremely informative you do an excellent job explaining the process.
Did this same swap, Used an 09 crown vic with 90000. I did have to swap the oil cooler from old engine to crown vic engine.
what harness and computers do you need for it to work
I’ve gotta 94 cobra soon to do a supercharger. I’m in the 904 looking for people to cruise with and talk cars. Love the build man keep up the good work
Shoot me a message on Instagram, I'd love to find some local people to cruise with!
Who tuned the car? Im in the jax area also.
@John S the car was originally tuned by Tony at Tuners Inc. in Orange Park on SCT. But since my motor and trans swap, it has been tuned on HPTuners by Andrew from @MustangLifestyleTV. He doesn't do tuning full time, just kind of for fun and experimenting right now. He's currently learning Motec for his soon to be 1500WHP Twin Turbo GT500, but has tuned a few 2V cars on the side for his friends, including my car.
@@904Saleen Gotcha! Ive got a 01 with a KB 2.1 tunned at a shop in dallas texas but im looking to get it tuned again. Seems like Tony G is the only game in town for the ford stuff.
@@johns9779 I'm sure that KB sounds awesome. Tony definitely will tune it, but there is also Stage 6 Motorsports who I visited for my dyno day in the last video. They specialize in Dodge but work on Chevy and Ford as well. Service, repairs and builds along with Tuning on their dyno.
You’re speaking facts
I bought my engine from a 2004 Roush 30k miles
Now about 75k and I paid more than double what you’d pay for a crown Vic, but that’s what I wanted so 🤷🏻
Roush > Crown Vic motor 😁
@@GiletheCarGuy thanks and yep that’s true 👍🏼
it’s the same motor no? i need a motor for my 04 roush and was gonna buy a vic motor
@@ben_rowe yes and no lol
@@Json.- what’s different in the roushes ?
I wish the Coyote swap would have been this easy. I think I'll keep my 4.6 2V and put a supercharger on it. It's nice to know that there are so many options for the SN95 Mustang even today. I'll have to keep the Crown Vic in mind when it comes time to replace my stock 4.6.
The Tork Tech supercharger system is a great option when the time comes to boost it. They are relatively affordable and allow you to run any 03/04 Cobra Headunit
Almost forgot some crownvic grandmarquis will require you to keep thier specific accessory belt as the mustangs have an extra idler pulley on the passengerside which the grandmarquis crown vic wont have... this is only on some.. the last crown vic motor i got was a 2011 and it didnt have the pulley but the timing cover did have the spot on the timing cover to swapnit over.. another 2008 grandmarquis 4.6 did not have this location drilled and tapped on the timing cover
people rip on the 2v's but one thing about em... they work and there's plenty of em.
Señor, tiene un automóvil muy bonito, ésta versión del Mustang (en ésa generación) es mi favorita de tódos ¡y además descapotable!, Le felicito. 👏👏👍
Just did mine for 600 bucks and got a spare motor that had a blown head gasket with sellable parts 2011 crown Vic flex fuel motor for 635
one youtuber to another fantastic job
Also running the Vic/GM pulleys and belt routing no problem. My car is cammed, FBO, geared, and dyno tuned by lee blankship. I have videos on my channel. I have tubular K member now, but i have stock K member and suspension with GM/ oil pan no prblem. Stock mustang motors mounts too. I even left the cold weather heated pcv cam coverslolol.
im 17 and i got a 2004 mustang gt but the motors kinda messed up but my uncle gave it to me and know he has kidney and liver failure but i want to build it in memory of him but i just need to motivate my self to fix it but i wanna try to get the terminator engine to swap it but there so much money
Man I’m sorry to hear that. But that sounds like an awesome project to remember him with. You can always look into like some other 4vs. 99/01 Cobra or 03/04 Mach 1 motors will work. Lincoln Aviator/MK8 motors will also work. My friend Blake has an Aviator 4v with like 180k miles in his Terminator that he got a roller with a ported Eaton and the full blower kit he strapped on to it. Running on E85 and is making a bunch of steam. Definitely close to if not 500whp and it’s still running strong. @Certified Rippers has some videos of his build you should go check out if you’re looking to do a 4v setup.
@@904Saleen bet thank you man
Thinking about doing this to my 2000 ford explorer
I don’t know much about the explorers but I’d imagine with those being the older 302 SBF or the 4.0L V6, the process will be more involved if you’re wanting to drop a 4.6 2v in it. If you have a good 302 in it though, there’s some things you can do to give them a decent power bump on a budget too
Being a Chevy guy I have to admit them 5 speed mustangs are fun to drive and sound nasty. Job well done setting the example for pepes tha
Sorry for people not made outta money and arent raised grease monkeys. Bad ass ride
Thank you! It’s been a long journey with this car. When I first started it, I didn’t even know how to change the oil. And now I’ve done pretty much everything on this car short of painting it and installing the convertible top.
I am an oldtimer and I tell getting your feet wet willing to fail and learn listen building some good qualities that goes a long way past cars.
I'm doing this right now,1997 saleen s281 car #97-0118 installing a 2007 shelby gt500 engine.
Wow, that’s gonna be a wild ride for sure. Good luck with it! Would love to see some photos or videos of it once it’s done!
Great job young man way to go
At 12:08 The man himself I do believe, Steve Saleen.. I knew a guy from California that moved to my neck of the woods in the early 1990's and he called Saleen Mustangs Sayleen Mustangs.. Lol.. I said you mean Saleen Mustangs and he corrected me.. No, Sayleen Mustangs.. I basically had no way to prove him wrong. Most people in GA from where I'm from had never heard of a Saleen Mustang and there was no internet with RUclips.. All I had was magazines That read Steve Saleen or Saleen Mustang and to him that was open to interpretation ( His pronunciation left a lot to be desired ) .. Now everytime I see one I say it's a Sayleen Mustang... Lol
Lots of internal differences he neglected to tell you
96- 00 crown vics are NPI engines. They Have Different cyl heads/intake/pistons. Cylinder head ports are much smaller than the later PI. NPI pistons have less of a dish. (more comp) A lot of Old schoolers will take a NPI with block and pair it with PI cyl heads and PI intake for a bump in compression. My personal build is just that, with 11 pounds of boost from a vortech centri blower.
I was covering newer 2vs only just because that’s what most people are likely to find and buy. I do feel that maybe I should’ve covered that. A lot of people are looking for a fast and easy swap, and they are way more likely to get their hands on a 2001 or newer motor. In terms of those PI 2v, there are very few differences
thanks for the info bro! is done is running!!
No problem 👍
I have a 2000 GT I swapped a 07 Vic into it. I might need a tune of what I understand. It's running okay in 1st then I shift it into 2nd @3k and it bogs down it's the same 2nd-3rd. When it's at that point it won't speed up and I have to stop it to restart to process of getting it home safe. Any help would be great! ( Changed the sparks, coils, fuel pump and filter) Long tube heads, cat back exhaust, CAI for mods
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Hard to diag without seeing what its doing. Is this an auto or manual car? Also are you still running the stock MAF/Fuel Injectors? The car should run fine with the mods you listed, but if you changed the MAF or fuel injectors without a tune it would throw everything off.
@@904Saleen it's manual and I did change the fuel injectors but should be OE just blue colored as I felt that was the problem originally and bought new to switch it
@@aaronbehrenwald1513 do you have the part number from the old injectors and the new ones?
Bro, having the autograph of Saleen in your Mustang 12:33 just increased the resale value by $1k minimum
Funny thing is, it does seem to bring the value up
Ik this comment will not be seen but i have a 04 Vic P71, and a 04 Mustang GT Vin X, My question is my mustang is a manual gearbox, will the CVPI engine work with it cause i was thinking about getting my Vic Engine built for the mustang to put a keene bell suppercharger.
Don’t worry brother, I try to check my comments almost every day, especially on this video! And yes, you should have no issues building that motor and pairing it with your manual transmission
Old person has it if the throttle body has a carbon ridge and binds or sticks after 1/4 throttle! 🤪
I’m trying to decide between building the 4.6 2v or swaping a 7.3 godzillla or coyote idk what to do
All depends on what you want to do, and what your budget is. Coyote and Godzilla are new platform and cost quite a bit more to do stuff with. With the 2v or even a 4v, you can build it for relatively cheap, and power adders like On3 single or twin turbos or even TorkTech, Saleen or Vortec superchargers can be picked up pretty inexpensively
7.3 in junk
Go coyote or 2V
Why go grab a 2v when u coulda grabbed a 4v 4.6 and started with 305hp and had more strength and options for power later ?
I'm researching doing that in a Thunderbird with a turbo
2v a better built engine
It'll last much longer
Is crown Vic engines better and faster then a regular 99-04 gt engine
There’s a slight difference in the cams but power hasn’t been documented to be much different with an identical intake, exhaust, and tune
@@904Saleen ohh ok bet thanks!
i hope it goes well.
I have a 2000 mustang gt with a 02-03 crown Vic engine swapped in it, I was wanting to put a on3 turbo kit on the car. Besides the tubular k member and coil overs will the on3 turbo for the 99-04 mustangs work on the crown Vic motor? Thanks for any help!
Yes it will. @MustangLifestyleTV used a Vic motor for his On3 Turbo Bullitt build and that car ran in the high 10s in the quarter mile.
@@904Saleen okay sweet, I’ll have to check them out! Thank you so much for your reply man!
Eeeyeeeeeeah 😮
Awesome ride bru
hopefully you see this , I’m trying to put this same 4.6 in my 2000 new edge i have the wiring harness and ecu for it should I use that or my v6 one ?
So you’re trying to put a 4.6 into your V6 car? Just trying to make sure we are on the same page
@@904Saleen yes sir
2011 p7b crown victoria, they ran out of p71 vins
Correct me if I’m wrong but I’m very sure Crown Vic’s gms, town cars actually have different cam grinds than the mustang and f150, less hp slightly more torque
The info is spotty but I've heard that before. The F-150 I know for a fact have a different grind, but I believe the panther chassis cars and the Mustangs are the same.
Aye! I have a 01 Grand Marquis. I don't want to do a Coyote swap. I don't like the way they sound. I can't figure out if I should keep the 4.6 Sohc or go 4.6 DOHC. What's your opinion?
It all depends on what you intend to do with the car. Staying with the older mod motors is more cost effective especially when it comes to power adders. Plus they are pretty much plug and play in comparison to a coyote swap
@@904Saleen I have a pair of 6466s. I don't have to use both, even though that would be gnarly. Just want enough power to beat on 392s.
@@itsme675t7 damn what the 392s do to you??
Im having a hard time geting info on what i need to swap in to a foxbody any info or videos would be appreciated.
Hey i have a question so u basically took the v8 motor and put the svt supercharger on it?
was it just bolt on to the crown vic or did you have to change other things.
This is a Saleen Series 2 supercharger which is basically a Magnuson MP90. The Cobra has an Eaton M112 which is whole different setup. If you're looking to install a Cobra blower on your car, I'd look into the Tork Tech kit. It allows you to run any blower designed to fit on a Cobra.
@@904Saleen well right now i have a v6 i was going to do what you did and put a town car into my car and i was just wondering how supercharging it would work also what other stuff would you upgrade.
I'd look into some of the supercharger kits that are available. Some kits like the Tork Tech will need the separate purchase of other supporting mods, and the blower itself, and require some modification as well. Saleen kits, if they are complete will bolt on directly and just need a tune, but there are some mods to fix some defects I would highly recommend. Another great kit is one from Jonse Speedlab which is basically a modernized version of the Saleen S281-E 2.3L Whipple Kit which comes with everything you need. You can also go the Vortech route too.
I got a crown vic donor but my mustang is a v6. What all do i need to swap over other then the motor and obviously the transmission also.
Change out computer and wiring harness. Driveshaft and rear-end
Motor, Trans, Computer, Wiring Harness, Driveshaft, Rear End, K Member, and potentially some other small odds and ends.
Didn’t the supercharged Saleen motors have forged internals vs a stock mustang motor? If so, he may have been better to fix the old motor.
Only the S281 Extreme’s did. They had the same rods and pistons the Terminators had along with a 2.3 Whipple from factory. All other S281’s were stock blocks
Very very nice video. Im considering getting a clean 00 gt with a bad motor. If i do im thinking of doing some cams and a small shot. Have you ever done cams?
I haven't done cams personally but they do make for some decent gains and help shift the powerband a little higher as well..
@@904Saleen let's not forget the sound!
It might not matter too much today, but in the future, would it affect the value of the car by no longer having the original motor in the car?
Unlikely. It's not like the classic cars where having everything numbers matching on it helps with value.
Great video brother u gave me some ideas
How easy would this be to do in a SN95. Or if I have a strong stock to valve already by strong I mean decently low mileage and very well maintained would have you better picking up a vortec and putting it on bad motor or doing the engine swap with no boost
The sn95 is a pretty similar process. Just rather than using the Coil on Plugs, you’d use the coil packs with wires. If you trust the motor, then by all means go for it and throw some boost at it
Great info in this video
Glad you liked it!
How are those MSD coil packs?? Do they last, the motorcraft are expensive, I’m thinking about trying those ones out..
I’ve been happy with them so far. Haven’t had any issues with them. They’ve been on my car for a few years
I have a 04 mach 1... will this work for that as well? I was looking at doing a gt 4.6 and swapping tthe heads. I've been told the water jets are different from the cobra and mach 1 to the gr and other 2 valve 4.6. Anyone have any knowledge about this
As far as I'm aware, you should be able to swap the heads and be good to go. The 4v's in the 99-01 Cobras, Mach 1s, Marauders use the same block casting, pistons, and rods as a 2v. The main difference just being the top end. But the motor swap should look roughly the same overall in terms of process, minus swapping the heads/timing if you choose the go that route.
Would my normal mustang wire harness fit on the crown Vic motor or do I have to buy a whole new one?
Yes your Mustang harness would work
Ok so I’m looking to swap a 5.4 2v the ford lighting motor without superchargee the triton and I wanna swap in it a s197 it’s an 8 bolt sled plate plan on getting a car without engine or blown engine then swapinf the 5.4 2v swap should it bolt right up if it’s a 8 bolt right ? I don’t wanna mess with a lot just wanna swap the 5.4 2v in so later on I can put a lightning superchargee shouldn’t need new place or harnes or anything just need guidance
Well if you’re swapping it into a 4.6 3v car, so 05-10 the motor should fit in. I’m not 100% sure if coyote cars use the same motor mount system. Your 3v ecu may be able to run the 5.4 2v but I’m not too sure. I know I’ve seen 3v motors run off the 2v ecu with cam phaser lock outs but idk if it can be done the other way around.
Is the truck engine harder or more expensive
From what I’ve heard, the truck engines may require a timing cover swap but I’m not entirely sure of that. I do know it will require these same things swapped on to it for it to go in. Someone who has done the swap with a truck motor may be able to chime in on this
Will this work exactly the same going into a 3.8 model and what kind of harness would I need to get because I heard you can’t use the 3.8 harness
You'll need to swap a full GT engine harness and ECU into the car for it to work. You may be able to make the V6 body harness work but I'm unsure.
What about transmission?? I enjoy my 5 speed would actually like for it to be a 6 speed eventually
A T56 swap would be the best way to get a 6spd
P71 is a heavey dinosaur but same engine as mustag GT.
Can you please tell me what you did with the knock sensors? Can you get a harness that has them to make them work?
Knock Sensors were removed. The GT's don't support them unfortunately. May be able to get it working if you ditched the ECU for a Holley but that's the only thing I can think of.
I just bought a new edge I just want my build to be automatic tho just here for advice and tips
The 4R70W if maintained can be a good transmission. The gearing is just rather long. If you're staying NA, I'd recommend pairing it with some higher gears like 4.10s. If you're going boosted, I wouldn't swap to any gears higher than 3.73s. Just be weary about the overdrive servo failing. It can cause a slip from 3rd to 4th gear. But those transmissions with some cranked up line pressure can shift hard and fast.
Hi I’m in the 904 area also would love to get some input on my 2010 ford mustang I already did a conversion to the front end
Feel free to send me a message on Instagram! @904Saleen
You missed one u need the mustang oil dipstick tube the two are totaly different length I just did a 2011 crown Vic flex fuel motor in my 03 gt
I kept the stock Vic dipstick that came with my 2011 motor. It is a little tight in there but it works fine and reads correctly
@@904Saleen weird yea it’s Deff shorter and if u put both dipstick tubes in and side by side they don’t sit at the same length and with the Vic pan being deeper and having the shorter tube u would think with the shorter mustang pan and with how far it sticks out it shouldn’t be right so that’s weird it’s reading level
@@904Saleen the dipsticks are the same length but tubes and pans are different must be a ford miracle lol
@@The1Perfume must be. I had questioned whether it would work during my swap but found it to be consistently accurate. My motor has seen 3 oil changes since it’s swap and has been right on the dot each time.
@@904Saleen sweet!!! I still wouldn’t trust it, though is like reasoning in Common sence would say it can’t be right because if the crown Vic had a deeper pan and a shorter tube so the dipstick would sit deeper in the pan for correct reading for using a shorter Pam, and still that longer tubes of the dipstick since deeper cant right and I’ve been reading that on some forms to saying, you got a swap, the dipstick tube, and I almost didn’t until I noticed that there are two totally different sizes, but yet the dip sticks are the same so I mean I wouldn’t I wouldn’t do it but your car looks pretty sweet, so do you
I have to ask. How did you manage to get a super charger To fit on the stock intake. Because I believe that is the 4.6. PI UPPER intake
The supercharger’s intake manifold is different from a stock PI manifold. And the whole plenum is done away with for this supercharger as well.
@@904Saleen So what intake are you using?
For that 2011 Crown Vic motor.
Can i do this same swap to my 08 convertable ?
I plan on building a 2v stang for drifting and will be using my 06 Crown Vic Romeo. How would I go about converting to drive by wire?!
Are you trying to use the electronic throttle body setup on your Mustang? If so, why? Just curious
@@904Saleen Just part availability for me rn, wondered if it was possible to use the vic intake but just the shift by wire/accelerator pedal assembly from a manual 2000 mustang. I'd be using the mustang ecu
@@whathuh4446 well you should be able to use the Vic intake, but I’m pretty sure you’re going to have to put on a mustang plenum/throttle body with the drive by cable setup. All 99-04 mustangs are drive by cable
How well does this engine interface with the 4R70W automatic transmission?
Considering all of the Crown Vic engines were paired to 4R70W's I'd say just fine lol. They are a direct bolt on.
When doing the swap do you need to change the dipstick being as you just changed by the oil pan?
You don't have to. I didn't on mine because they are sometimes a pain to remove. It is a little bit tighter trying to get to it when checking the oil after the motor is dropped in, but not difficult by any means
How do you think the performance would be in a s197 currently have a v6 and looking for more and noticed the Vic engines are pretty cheap
Never seen a 2v swap in an S197. Not sure if it's even worth doing or if it's ever been done. On paper the 2v will make more than the 4.0 V6 in the 2005-2010 V6s, but the 3.7 from 2011-14 makes much more power than the 2v.
I need help, I'm thinking about buying a 2008 crown vic motor with 50,000 miles. What would I need to do about the ecu and value covers.
You can keep your Mustangs ECU and the valve covers don’t need to be changed. I only changed mine because I got a said of trick flow covers that I liked the look of
Thank you
Would this fit in or improve performance in the Lincoln LS?? 🤔
I’m not sure. I’m not very knowledgeable on the Lincoln LS. I know they are more of a Jaguar based platform than Ford. Someone else in the comments here might know!
@@904Saleen thanks!
If you live in nor cal good luck just finding any 4.6
Does the p71 engine have the same power in your mustang? If so how? Why can't I get that power in the crown vic?
Crown Vic ECU is detuned. But it’s the same EECV ECU in the earlier cars as the 2v mustangs. I think the later crown Vic’s started using a different version of EECV or moved on to the same ECU platform as the 3v mustangs
what is the mustang is a v6? I need to know asap
Is the Crown Vic motor compatible with the 99 Cobra as well?
It will fit, but I would search for another 4v first. Lincoln Aviators/Navigators/MK8s have them. And the aviator motors are aluminum block and high compression too!
You literally don't have to change oil pan or dip stick if its a panther motor. I have a 1997 GT with a 2008 grand marquis motor. used the stock marquis pan and dip stick. The dip stick is much lower in the engine bay on a mustang but its not a big deal to reach in and pull it out. The intake is the same too except some only had one coolant temp sensor which ran ECU and cluster. I just wired my sn95 to one CTS.
Technically the 2010 and 2011 crown vics police interceptors are p7b
Where did you find a low mileage engine?
There is a guy in Orlando FL who has a ton of them. If i can find his contact info again, I will comment again with it!
the whole time it isn't running, is gas unburnt that the state doesn't have to account for... more bolt turning projects = saving's 😅
1987-1993 4.6's are cast 4340
Can I put this motor in my 91 Foxbody let me know. Thanks.
It can be done, but you'll need the electronics from a 99-04 car along with I believe a different K member. I do know there are some videos and forum posts on swapping 2v and 4v motors into the Foxbody. It seems like a pretty well documented topic.
Thank you!
I have the 4.6l v8 engine could this still work
Yes
What if you don’t chang the oil pan pickup tube
The Crown Vic pan and pick up will bottom out on the K member cause the pan to get pushed into the pick up tube and starving the engine of oil.
I wanna get as much horsepower all motor out my 2V that means forged, ported and stroked
Can probably get in the upper 300s to mid 400s with a max effort NA 2v build. I’m sure it can be done if you go high compression, cams, ported heads, oversized valves, E85, full exhaust and a good intake setup
@@904Saleen 450 seems doable I think
Would it be the same or similar with a 06 or like a gen 1 sn197
Hard to say. Those cars have a few extra steps but I wouldn't recommend swapping a 2v into an S197. Just doesn't make a lot of sense to do
my 97 romeo 4.6 has 500K miles. do i need a swap lol
Hald a million?? That's wild! If she's still running well, I say send it until it's not!
question does this work for base 2nd gen mustangs im trying to swap my engine for a v6
What do you mean by 2nd gen mustangs?
@@904Saleen I mean any mustang from 2005 and up
@@nolty_gaming8616 ah ok. I’m sure it’s a pretty similar process but I don’t really have any experience with those cars unfortunately
How much can the victoria engine make tho?
NA with simple bolt ons and tuned I’ve seen them make in the 250-280whp range depending on how it was treated and mods. With boost you’re safe to about 450whp
What about the fly wheel
You'll need a flywheel that matches your crank. Either you'll have an 8 or a 6 bolt crank.
Does the stock transmission work with these engines?
The T-45 5spd in 96-00 GT, and the TR-3650 from 2001-2004 GT, along with the T-56 from 2003-2004 Cobra will work with these motors. The 4R70W automatic 4spd will as well
Do you think that a 97 v6 5 spd could possibly do the job?
flex fuel crown vic engine work?
Yes! Only difference with those cars were the flex fuel sensor and ecu.
Do you need to change ecus or no?
If you're taking a 4.6 out and putting another in, you won't need to.
@@904Saleen are the 4.6 from the sn95 and the new edge different?
@@Shamard1 96-98 GT 4.6s are the Non-PI motors. They are cheaper, but also make less power. All 99-04 GT 4.6s are PI motors and make around 50hp more.
Just Subbed to you bro.
I appreciate it!
What headlights?
DNA Motoring
Lincoln mark8
Just one thing, the 2011 Crown Victoria P71 was only offered to law enforcement agencies. After 2008 you could not buy a crown victoria as a consumer, you could only buy them as fleet vehicles. P71 packages were never offered to the general public.
Ah ok gotcha. Thanks for that clarification. It might’ve been that the car my motor came from never got dressed up with the light bar and push bar. It might’ve been used elsewhere.
@@904Saleen No worries! I nerd out over those old panther bodies pretty damn hard. It’s neat to see people taking the engines out of them and putting them into something a little faster, I wasn’t aware that it was a very common swap! Really neat stuff
P71 was a cop cars only, but they sold vics till 2011 just like the TC and GM.