This made my day. Howler talking Byrne. I love it. I've been reading the John Byrne Action Comics run. I've still got a ways to go to finish reading it because life got in the way, but I love what I've read so far.
I love pretty much everything John Byrne has ever done. I consider myself a Byrne Victim still to this day. His version of Superman along with Chris Reeve's are the ones I consider the most definitive for me personally.
Yeah, me too. I consider myself a Byrne victim - hahaha I love that term. X-Men, Alpha Flight, Avengers, Hulk, Fantastic Four, superman (not as much), Omac, Next-Men (art work declining).
I really loved his Next Men. It's one of my favorite comic stories of all time. I don't know why, but the whole thing just worked for me. I thought his artwork in that was beautiful in it until the last few issues, when I think he may've lost some interest in it and wanted to move onto something else. Some of those "Byrne Robotics" in the Russia story arc and the New York cityscapes he drew in the arc about Sandy were simply jaw dropping, I thought. But yeah, I essentially agree that his X-Men, FF, and Alpha Flight artwork was probably Byrne in his prime.
BearCubster Oh yeah. I love Perez's work. He's one of my all time favorites too. I met him at Heroes Con one year, and had him autograph some books for me. Really nice guy, and seems to love his fans. I like everything Perez's has ever done. Teen Titans, Wonder Woman, Crisis on Infinite earths, Avengers, JLA/Avengers, etc. Beautiful stuff, I love his attention to detail. He did a creator owned book named Crimson Plague that I liked a lot too, even though it didn't last many issues.
Excellent video my friend !!!!!! Man im glad there was a hardcore DC fan from that era in the 80s too. You were dead on accurate with all your comments too. :)
Awesome video and a stellar review as per usual Tim :) as always your depths of knowledge about the behind the scenes / comics' history are always really fun, entertaining, engaging & interesting to listen to. Seeing Superman ending up on Apokolips and becoming a warrior for Darkseid during John Byrne's run has me thinking that that story could've possibly been a source of inspiration / source material for the 2 parter episode 'Legacy' at the end of season 3 of Superman The Animated Series which concluded the show back in 2000.
Cool video. I remember reading about the story you referenced about DC farming out some of their characters to Marvel. It really shows how desperate DC had gotten at that time before The New Teen Titans saved them
this is awesome. i learned something i didnt know about byrnes superman. im a huge fan of curt swan art during his superman run. i see once john left the book they went to the action comics weekly team-up issues for 42 i think it was. i was glad when dan jurgens got on it after byrnes.
Tim, great video again as usual. Can't wait for the next installment! I have a few of these issues with Byrne's work and now must re-read them. I was wondering if you by chance know of a link for the reading order for this era. You once again have peaked my interest on a series I feel I must now read. Thanks again brother for all you do. Ray
Doesn't matter what comic book John Byrne works on - he tends to bring back the lore of that comic book reintroducing the classic legends of that character. Compared to the superman of the 70's I didn't take to John Byrnes interpretation of superman the way I took to the reboot of Wonder Woman around the same time. Wonder Woman rebooted was great because it had gotten rid of alot of the rubbish lore for e.g no man sets foot on Paradise Island - the fact it wasn't called Paradise Island anymore, the invisable plane, the mental radio... etc, all of that rubbish gone. I was disappointed when John Byrne brought some of those things back. On another subject - you may have hated it but I liked Booster Gold... and when Booster Gold's connection to the Legion of Superheroes was teased out in the early issues it only served to intrigue me to read/collect more issues. Great video - informative as always.
I just recently started reading comics, and decided to start with the mid to late 80's, because that's when my love for the characters of Superman and Batman began. I just finished reading Batman: A Death in the Family, and so far it's my favorite story. I really don't understand why so many fans disliked the Jason Todd Robin. I thought he was great, and enjoyed his rebelliousness. It doesn't make sense to me how fans at the time could hate his Robin so much that they would actually vote to have him killed off, and then welcome the next Robin (Tim Drake) with open arms. I didn't like the way they introduced Drake, and I liked the character himself even less. I actually think I like Todd's Robin even more than Grayson's, something I wouldn't have thought possible beforehand. I was glad to learn that DC eventually brought Jason back though. I have always liked the Robin character (maybe even more than Batman), but I'm not crazy about Nightwing, and even less crazy about the Teen Titans. I honestly don't understand how the Titans became so popular in the first place. Maybe the characters could grow on me with time, but it hasn't happened yet, and I doubt it ever will. As for today's comics I have no desire whatsoever to read them. I understand change is necessary, but they went a little overboard IMO.
I agree that John Byrne can do magnificent artwork (He used to be my favorite CB Artist), unfortunately, a lot of the time he phones it in and does a half-ass job. His X-Men is stellar, his Fantastic Four is mostly good, I don't like the first issues that he inked himself (He learned on the job and wasn't very good at first.). And his Superman work while great at first, took a huge nosedive in quality while he was doing some of those Action Comics that you showed. The issue with Superman holding Lois and Lana apart is one of the worst drawn issues I have ever seen (And WHY the Archie style cover??). I can recall many times seeing panels that were so poorly rendered the character portrayed was unrecognizable. Weak shading, empty backgrounds, poorly rendered scenes/characters, etc. While I agree that he can do awesome work, I feel that he often drops the ball.
Robert I have been of a mind with you on this. I remember while writing the Adventures with Ordway I saw how his cliche topics going from the Star Corps or what have you then the five o'clock shadow thing towards the end of the story it wasn't as good as it could have been. That being said I'll never part with my Byrne Superman titles, or any of the other artists of the past. So many good ones.
Awesome review. John Byrne was so legendary. Looking forward to reading these stories. Thanks!
This made my day. Howler talking Byrne. I love it. I've been reading the John Byrne Action Comics run. I've still got a ways to go to finish reading it because life got in the way, but I love what I've read so far.
Glad you liked it!
I love pretty much everything John Byrne has ever done. I consider myself a Byrne Victim still to this day. His version of Superman along with Chris Reeve's are the ones I consider the most definitive for me personally.
Yeah, me too. I consider myself a Byrne victim - hahaha I love that term. X-Men, Alpha Flight, Avengers, Hulk, Fantastic Four, superman (not as much), Omac, Next-Men (art work declining).
I really loved his Next Men. It's one of my favorite comic stories of all time. I don't know why, but the whole thing just worked for me. I thought his artwork in that was beautiful in it until the last few issues, when I think he may've lost some interest in it and wanted to move onto something else. Some of those "Byrne Robotics" in the Russia story arc and the New York cityscapes he drew in the arc about Sandy were simply jaw dropping, I thought. But yeah, I essentially agree that his X-Men, FF, and Alpha Flight artwork was probably Byrne in his prime.
Were you ever a fan of George Perez's artwork?
BearCubster Oh yeah. I love Perez's work. He's one of my all time favorites too. I met him at Heroes Con one year, and had him autograph some books for me. Really nice guy, and seems to love his fans. I like everything Perez's has ever done. Teen Titans, Wonder Woman, Crisis on Infinite earths, Avengers, JLA/Avengers, etc. Beautiful stuff, I love his attention to detail. He did a creator owned book named Crimson Plague that I liked a lot too, even though it didn't last many issues.
SamGuthrie1977 You met George Perez and spoke to him?!? Man, am I jealous of you.
The Trooper! Love the comics history lesson and big shout out for rocking the metal.
Excellent video my friend !!!!!! Man im glad there was a hardcore DC fan from that era in the 80s too. You were dead on accurate with all your comments too. :)
Man, if I now make a mess of the house trying to dig out the box with the Byrne Superman titles -you are responsible! Great nostalgia!
I will take the blame for you to hit memory lane ! lol
Hello from the U.K. Big comic collector here of 44 years. First video i have seen of yours and i love it. Keep up the great work.
I saw Maiden June 21; 2017 in Houston! John Byrne is one of my favorite artist!
Awesome video and a stellar review as per usual Tim :) as always your depths of knowledge about the behind the scenes / comics' history are always really fun, entertaining, engaging & interesting to listen to. Seeing Superman ending up on Apokolips and becoming a warrior for Darkseid during John Byrne's run has me thinking that that story could've possibly been a source of inspiration / source material for the 2 parter episode 'Legacy' at the end of season 3 of Superman The Animated Series which concluded the show back in 2000.
Awesome video--time to go read some John Byrne!!
The Superman issues will be next...pretty sure I'm just going to go through most of my Byrne runs in videos over the next few months
sounds like a very good plan to me :)
Cool video. I remember reading about the story you referenced about DC farming out some of their characters to Marvel. It really shows how desperate DC had gotten at that time before The New Teen Titans saved them
Id love to have something credible to read about that time!
This is from Jim Shooter's official blog jimshooter.com/2011/08/superman-first-marvel-issue.html/
YES! Thank you sir!
Dude...the Maiden shirt! So fricken awesome!
Thanks borther
this is awesome. i learned something i didnt know about byrnes superman. im a huge fan of curt swan art during his superman run. i see once john left the book they went to the action comics weekly team-up issues for 42 i think it was. i was glad when dan jurgens got on it after byrnes.
I don't hate Jurgens but his run just didn't do it for me...Roger Stern's stuff was solid
+Howlermouse simminson on her run was great.
Great video. I love Byrne's art. I need to actually sit down and read what he's worked on though. This helps.
Great video and killer Maiden shirt.
thank you sir
I love John Byrne's Superman and have the whole run... I read the shit out of that annual with Batman.
just watched your show n I meant to ask about Cerebus books, at the st. Vinnie's by my house they had a whole bunch of them for .49
Been watching your vids...keep em coming
+Howlermouse thanks bro
Tim, great video again as usual. Can't wait for the next installment! I have a few of these issues with Byrne's work and now must re-read them. I was wondering if you by chance know of a link for the reading order for this era. You once again have peaked my interest on a series I feel I must now read. Thanks again brother for all you do. Ray
oh man i gotta check out this Sleaze character now lol great vid man
lol....I'm pretty sure he popped up at least one more time after this two part story...just not sure where...
Doesn't matter what comic book John Byrne works on - he tends to bring back the lore of that comic book reintroducing the classic legends of that character. Compared to the superman of the 70's I didn't take to John Byrnes interpretation of superman the way I took to the reboot of Wonder Woman around the same time. Wonder Woman rebooted was great because it had gotten rid of alot of the rubbish lore for e.g no man sets foot on Paradise Island - the fact it wasn't called Paradise Island anymore, the invisable plane, the mental radio... etc, all of that rubbish gone. I was disappointed when John Byrne brought some of those things back.
On another subject - you may have hated it but I liked Booster Gold... and when Booster Gold's connection to the Legion of Superheroes was teased out in the early issues it only served to intrigue me to read/collect more issues.
Great video - informative as always.
I love the metal men he drew @ this time!!!
I just recently started reading comics, and decided to start with the mid to late 80's, because that's when my love for the characters of Superman and Batman began. I just finished reading Batman: A Death in the Family, and so far it's my favorite story. I really don't understand why so many fans disliked the Jason Todd Robin. I thought he was great, and enjoyed his rebelliousness. It doesn't make sense to me how fans at the time could hate his Robin so much that they would actually vote to have him killed off, and then welcome the next Robin (Tim Drake) with open arms. I didn't like the way they introduced Drake, and I liked the character himself even less. I actually think I like Todd's Robin even more than Grayson's, something I wouldn't have thought possible beforehand. I was glad to learn that DC eventually brought Jason back though. I have always liked the Robin character (maybe even more than Batman), but I'm not crazy about Nightwing, and even less crazy about the Teen Titans. I honestly don't understand how the Titans became so popular in the first place. Maybe the characters could grow on me with time, but it hasn't happened yet, and I doubt it ever will. As for today's comics I have no desire whatsoever to read them. I understand change is necessary, but they went a little overboard IMO.
Ya know...I think I'm going to end up doing a vid on this topic...maybe I can take you back to that era and give you a little more reference
I think you meant Proteus not Prometheus
Female Fury, Boom Tube, Mega Rod...sigh. So many potential titles for that Barda/Clark porno.
Right on
64PageSpecial I would pay to see a video like that 😄
I agree that John Byrne can do magnificent artwork (He used to be my favorite CB Artist), unfortunately, a lot of the time he phones it in and does a half-ass job. His X-Men is stellar, his Fantastic Four is mostly good, I don't like the first issues that he inked himself (He learned on the job and wasn't very good at first.). And his Superman work while great at first, took a huge nosedive in quality while he was doing some of those Action Comics that you showed. The issue with Superman holding Lois and Lana apart is one of the worst drawn issues I have ever seen (And WHY the Archie style cover??). I can recall many times seeing panels that were so poorly rendered the character portrayed was unrecognizable. Weak shading, empty backgrounds, poorly rendered scenes/characters, etc. While I agree that he can do awesome work, I feel that he often drops the ball.
Robert I have been of a mind with you on this. I remember while writing the Adventures with Ordway I saw how his cliche topics going from the Star Corps or what have you then the five o'clock shadow thing towards the end of the story it wasn't as good as it could have been. That being said I'll never part with my Byrne Superman titles, or any of the other artists of the past. So many good ones.
If honest JB good except he seems to draw other heroic figures into his books. Hardly can concentrate on that one subject.
Iron Maiden!!!!!!!
Number of the Beast!