I've watched a lot of zizek and I am always in awe that when somebody interrupts him he instantly stops speaking to let them interject. No matter how passionately he's speaking he always wants the conversation to continue and doesn't want to just lecture somebody he knows more than.
In Southern Europe when people interrupt it's usually not to bully or brag, but to bring something to the discussion. I'm not speaking about TV talk shows but ordinary life. There are some essays in pragmatic linguistics if you are interested.
If you have worked in any sort of broadcasting for a while and aren't a highly political tv host you learn to stop talking when someone else is very quickly. It is the only way to make understandable audio for viewers.
he did finish his point though. I'd love a life feed of Trump trying to come up with a book that was more than 5 pages long ... about anything. It could even be about pussies.
Poor Slavoj, all that work making a subtle but understandable argument about the failure of modern democracy, and in the end the BBC's angle was "You and Trump are the same amirite?" all along.
fbelard So true! The ending shows that the interviewer wasn't actually listening to slavoj the whole time. Typical, polished BBC newsreader.. So much a part of the establishment he just reads out questions issued forth by the men behind the curtain. Manufacturing consent is alive and well Slavoj
I think Slavoj understands that the press won't even try sincerely to understand what he's offering. But as a brilliant, exuberant, optimistic radical he is a wonder to listen to. The reason the press people can't keep up with him is because they're busy thinking up their next line and trying to look sharp themselves. A little like Sophie Sheverdnadze (spelling?).
The BBC did not say that he had similar views. They said that it was said that he did - and then gave him a chance to respond to that criticism, which he did competently.
they're similarly "extreme" and similarly animated and provocative, one's a passionate Marxist, one's a passionate capitalist...You can't accuse either of them of being middle-of-the-road in any way...
He perfectly portraits liberal left "discourse" here, were arguments are solely based on vague moralistic virtues. If you have a slightly different opinion, your literally seen as "right wing" or whatever. Many of those people don't care about analysis or material reality.
@@sagnikpaul1811 Thats actually very rare, but India is highly socialist nation so the last thing u need more of is socialism. America is the opposite, highly capitalist and the last thing u need is more capitalism
@@DarkAngelEU in case you haven't noticed, every jackass goes on TV in cheap looking jeans and tshirt and think they are being rebellious. They haven't noticed that it's kinda become the default dress.
@@ragnarbluechip8795 In case you haven't noticed, every politician goes on TV in cheap looking suits and tie and think they are being professional. They haven't noticed that it's kinda become the default mockup.
Most media pundits are not that smart either. Smarter than Trump, yes, but that's hardly a feat. Not like they can discuss with Zizek about Hegel. But boy they'll try to disqualify him anyway
Cesi CUB Well of course everyone *should* look out for truth of facts for themselves, but they *should* also respect cultural difference, not make war, give as much attention to events happening around the world than the homes happening where they live, and so on. Won't happen though; human nature.
It's so ironic they did that when his entire argument is the Left needs to find a way to tap into a charismatic, exciting revival (like Bernie Sanders), and this failure was capitalized by Trump, Brexit, etc.
@@cesi5494 It's completely the media's fault. Channels like BBC, once reputable news sources, have become part of the powerful apparatus ruled by Davos types that has hijacked the leftist discourse. Zizek is on point. Trump didn't win. What happened is that Hillary lost. She was incredibly underwhelming with her establishment policies that are not that different from a Republican from the 90s. They're different towards Muslim people and the LGTB community, but economically speaking not so much. If charismatic smart people with meaningful ideas like Zizek or Sanders appeared more on media, the left would lead again. But that's not what money wants. They want submissive, fake leftists like Hillary, and populist jokes like Trump covering the political discussion. The BBC is just the other side of the coin in the propaganda machine.
Zizek is spot-on when claiming we live in age of moral disintegration. And banality, I would add. It's been happening for years and consequences are becoming visible...
Examples Religious fundamentalists in America and Middle East. Pseudoscience spreading online. Left hyperliberalism, radical far right black/white ideology... Everyone is a follower - the individuals with real convictions but admit error are dying out. Everybody is an "internet" expert... Urgggg
Did you ever notice how, when people seem to disagree with a news post, or how someone points out something critical, even if they don't put it very intelligently, most people will respond with the laughing emoji? As if to say, "I am mocking you"? This one action crystalizes our entire culture at this moment, we prefer to ridicule others than to debate them.
its not a coincidence, and its not an accident either, the system is designed in such a way that it more often enables nihilism in individuals instead of radicalism in groups because there is no amalgamation of people to find community with, that's the missing force of the radical left he references. The reason these groups appear not to exist is because they are systematically destroyed, martin Luther king was killed by the FBI, the black panthers where flat out communists and they where all brutally murdered in police raids ordered by pseudo-authoritarian capitalists. The simple threat of the radical left ever becoming centralised in any place across the globe is enough to justify America spending $700,000,000,000 a year on its military and also requiring anyone considered an ally to spend a minimum of 2% of their GDP on their own military forces. If communism doesn't work then why does America spend so much on "defending American values"? if communism always fails then leave them alone to fail right?
I think it's more like that there is a new big shift happening in our society and these are the consequences. It was the same during the industrial revolution, people also thought that the social fabric is melting, but eventually new society arose from it. One example of this is founding fathers of sociology, like Durkheim.
Here in Brazil we have some John Oliver ripp-off types, but one in particular stands out: Gregorio Duviver. I dont know how can anyone give credit to that fart. And some of the his fans are not dumb (well, if they are, they fool me), but it just amazes me how these people cant see through the bullshit of this "comedic news" propaganda.
that's not what he actually said. he begins at 6:45 - hear for yourself what he says about the approach and attitude of these types of shows. i agree that the comedy news approach of the daily show is a problem. things are terrifying right now and a laughing studio audience just makes things feel bizarre and eerily complacent. what i don't agree with is Slavoj's claim that on the daily show/last week tonight they make fun of ordinary people. that's not happening.
@@octopusmime Except they do. Trump supporters are still ordinary people. Which they make fun of. It is very problematic to make fun of a demographic if you really wish for those people to change demographics. It's televised bullying.
I just want to say, I thumbed this up for Slavoj. I may not agree with him, but even he is frustrated with the BBC and many other MSM sources for their bullshit.
Phrases for the Zizek drinking game: "Here I claim!", "My God!", "NO!", "Do you realize?", "Liberal left", "Hegelian", "Here I am old fashioned Marxist", "That is precisely..."
They invite him for several reasons. They can use "we featured Zizek" to defend against accusations of right wing bias. They convince leftists they are a positive media source. Plus, they can sensationalise on what he says. However, this is barely advertised or shared by the BBC- they make no effort to spread his speaking as much as they would a nationalist right-wing public figure who can barely string together a paragraph like Farage and cronies.
Žižek is a prolific writer. His books are complex, focused on philosophy. They are extremely well-written so reading them is indeed pure pleasure. I own only two right now because they are long :) His writing on philosophy cannot even compare to "a few comments on twitter made by some other people," which my friend calls "street philosophy," and which is a bunch of meaningless nonsense and/or super obvious statement. That is I think what the last question tried to suggest... Quoting Žižek is for me the same as quoting Shakespeare or Aristotle. He is a true intellectual, and one of the most important philosophers of our time. I love his youtube videos. They have made him a celebrity. However, in a debate about his ideas, I would prefer to argue with someone who has read at least one of his books.
That's a really good observation of this "street philosophy"! The reason it feels obvious is that most philosophies are still built bottom-up, which often warrants context from the society, so the "street philosophies" cannot develop complex philsophies, only one's which differ from the norm one degree (sorry I cannot find a better word). Alternatively, top-down philosophies simply cannot be construed at depth on a place like twitter, and even RUclips would face challenges with something like that. Very interesting side point. I also agree that to debate him his books are a must, but it is nice to see that he has been able to create valuable discussion that can be absorbed for people less enthralled by his writing.
I love Žižek and so on and so on 💚 he is always helping us to think beyond neocons, democrats and the left, his left thinking is fresh and charismatic.
@EggDevilKing94 Marxism or any kind of proper socialism was never properly implemented (because of corruption, mismagament and medling by capitalist states) just saying.
This is true. Everyone complains about socialism without even knowing it, and never was implemented in the right way and in the right conditions. USA never let socialism survive because it's a menace to them.
"Slavoj Zizek is one of the most important living philosophers" and a human microphone called "journalist" tells him he is wrong...stick to reporting, you understand nothing of what Zizek is saying.
Fortunately Zizek is a philosopher and you don't have to agree with him, and it's even better if you don't because thats mean you think about what you see and hear, and thats a good thing.
Plenty of genocide happens in Capitalist society too. Using the excuse of an abstract economic system as to justify the gruesome terrors of Stalinism is a let off for him and all his supporters. Marxism in it's true form is not violent, and is actually the antithesis to the class violence of thousands of years.
Slavoj makes a number of good points. Average working class ppl who are repulsed by trump are likewise repulsed by the liberal professional class, of which Hilary was the high priestess. The main philosophy of these pro free market liberals is this so called belief in a meritocracy in which they as the winners, see themselves as morally and economically superior. In fact you could go as far as saying this group of liberals has a hatred, or at least contempt of ordinary working ppl. Their children attend the same schools, and they surround themselves with A- list Hollywood types and the mega rich capitalists who they feel some type of admiration for. At times these groups get together to do some type of charity event for their favourite pet groups, which serves as some kind of therapy for them. The only economic policy solution they can think of is that more education is the solution and that workers need to be more innovative. In reality, this is all just a guise for reduced wages and labour conditions and greater levels of economic insecurity in a globalised world.
People who voted for trump are vicious capitalists make no mistake. However many socialists or social democrats there are in the US they all are in the democratic party or in the smaller virtually irrelevant further left parties. Let's not forget the republican base rallies to it's party at the mention of someone on the left being a socialist
"Average working class ppl who are repulsed by trump are likewise repulsed by the liberal professional class, of which Hilary was the high priestess." BBC covered this as well. They interviewed the locals in a town in Maryland who usually supported Democrats but many of them feel left out and just want jobs. They don't trust Hillary for obvious reasons and they feel Trump could provide the jobs. The elites are out of touch and it's their own undoing.
"The main philosophy of these pro free market liberals is this so called belief in a meritocracy in which they as the winners, see themselves as morally and economically superior" I may add, the native working class is viewed as a nuisance that a robot can and should take over, so that these class of people can go to collages and get educated to join their ranks (well not really for the older ones...just for the new generation. Mock trade school and they will go to college) and the foreign immigrant working class seen as a benefit for cheap services that the professional class could not in other ways afford. And anyone who puts a light on this is a racist.. Im not from the US, but we see the same thing in Europe
ThePreciseMoment In America, H1 visa is used to hire cheaper professional immigrants which the Silicon Valley takes advantage of that's why you see many immigrants working there.
Yet, Democrats don't consistently and actively attack worker's rights, citizen and environmental protecting regulation, pro-citizen programs like universal healthcare, public education, public infrastructure, etc. like Republicans do. How can you POSSIBLY sit here and argue about the "liberal" contempt for working people and "superiority" when our country is now run by a corporate oligarchy, full of union busting, regulation attacking, tax-dodging, corporate welfare consuming conglomerates? Either you're incredibly delusional or just another Russian paid troll
I would rather call it a rise against the establishment! A revolt against robbing western countries for good jobs, and the horrific trickle UP economics and crony capitalism that are serving only the very few stinking rick ppl. As Bernie said; "Enough if Enough". So Trump was elected this time. Very sad and unfortunate, in my opinion :( BUT it only happened cos the DNC establishment was backstabbing all other candidates for president in their own party, and they crowned Clinton months before any votes where given in the primaries. In England the "establishment" has been trying to get rid of Corbyn - but fortunately they have not succeeded thus far. From my perspective, it even looks like Corbyn has been strengthen?
+theblackswan x Are you implying that Bernie would have won against Trump? Bernie was popular among millennials but that't not enough to win an election. As for Corbyn, Labour is lagging pretty far behind Tories.
One day, Slavoj Zizek will be considered one of the biggest thinkers - if not the biggest - in human history. Everything this man does or says is borderline perfection.
Zizek is so on point here. Yanis Varoufakis makes the same points. We have a "nationalist international" now, and for the left to retreat to traditional nation-state revolutionary tactics is bound to fail. We need to propose bigger and better ideas than the right. Our real enemy is the liberal establishment silencing and defaming popular candidates like Sanders and Corbyn. Beyond electoral politics, what we need is an international solidarity movement to counteract global capitalism and the nationalist movement worldwide.
No the last thing the west should do is go global and interfere in other countries(though we already do) Absolutists in any form: pure capitalists or socialists are both horrible, that shit kills nations.
Žižek is the reason I changed my studies. Philosophy in the academic ways is enable of giving some reason and knowledge. They don't study things as they are in the real world, but in a very idealistic way. In other words: when you hear a "philosopher" talking about economics, run for your life.
Slavoj is very interesting and insightful, he has a lot of great ideas about economics. He puts a great perspective on the actual role of people within the work place. His points of morality in the public sphere is really good as well, love 5:31
The man is a genius, I may not share most of his views, but he is consistently passionate and committed to his vision indeed. 99% wouldn't understand him though.
i think his only issue was thinking the democratic party will change, when they came back into power they specifically went for the most boring centrist candidate possible because hes comfortable and better than trump. if anybody is going to change their thinking, its going to be common people, not democrat politicians
At the time of the election it seemed very possible that there could be a strong leftist reaction and even during the primaries it was never certain that Biden was going to be nominated over Sanders
Yeah but I mean, don't you find it unprofessional to ask someone a provocative and offensive question like that and give them about 10 seconds to respond? Surely they knew he wouldn't like hearing "LOL U N TRUMP ARE THE SAME AMIRITE?"
How would you feel if you're a respected academic and some guy who is clearly not in your league says in a completely dismissive way that you're the same as an illiterate politician who has never read a book.
This guy has said a lot of loony things in his career, but he is spot on this time. When you hear him talk about Robespierre and the Terror you will see how monstrous his views can be, so it pays to be selective and to listen carefully with Zizek
Ash, you're a first year piano student trying to correct Art Tatum on his fingering. First, Robespierre and the Terror brought about the modern bourgeois state. In doing this, the French revolutionaries fought the monarchy, feudal nobility and clerical powers. The hope and fear of the first Napoleon was that he'd destroy the monarchies and bring parliamentary republican reform throughout Europe. Understand history as the progression towards the present and stop painting things black and white. For perspective.. America's revolution was a colonial uprising. The French revolution was a civil war. Think of the French Revolution more like the American Civil War (with all the brutality that issued from that) You can say the relentless murder and carnage of the American Civil War was horrific, even evil, but you can't say that the Civil War didn't need to happen. It's the same thing with the French Revolution. So your reduction: Robespierre = bad is a overly simplistic view of complex political and historical developments of humanity. Obviously, murder and slaughter is bad but by such a rubric we should say capitalism = bad. Going even further toward the nihilist stance: everything = bad as nature is nothing but a system which devours itself. So existence = bad. But that just creates an inverted value system were everything except nihilism is bad. Thus nihilism = good. There's always going to be something bad to justify the good. But what if the good itself is not good enough to be justified? What if all justifications ultimately rest not upon morality but power and deadly force? Let me know if I'm getting too Nietzschean for your tastes, Ashy baby. ;)
Rohme Giuliano Well, Rohmey baby, you attributed a vast range of views to me, whilst having no actual idea of what they are, save for my stated view that Zizek's analysis of Robespierre is monstrous. It is precisely this tendency to over-generalise on the basis of assumptions that makes me hope that reactionary student union types, such as you appear to be, never get their twitchy, unthinking fingers on the levers of power. I guess I can picture you sitting beside Robespierre and Zizek, taking one look at my post, and then assuming away with gusto, creating a fictional back story for me and attributing your picture of my entire political, academic and professional career for me, without anything more to go on than my single statement, your overzealous instincts - enslaved as they are to your cultural prejudices - and your inability to conceive of the possibility that you could be in error or that there may be something that you could learn from the world, if you would only take a moment to stop preaching at it, and from all of this you would probably designate me a subversive and have me sent to the block. God forbid that you would tolerate a difference of opinion and let it roam free in the world unchecked? Heaven fore fend that you might think before bleating out two or three passages from a textbook? And most of all, let us never consider that another person's view might be different from the one we, the elite, have assigned him?! Tell you what, if you want to know what I ACTUALLY THINK, why don't you ask me? If you want to discuss something with an open mind, you are required to consider the chance that, just maybe, you don't already know what I believe before you have asked me. Do you think you can do that? Maybe remember your training (if you were or are a student of history), which teaches against assumption, and encourages a slightly more forensic approach to learning. Let me know if I'm getting to Zizekian for your tastes, won't you, please? P.S. I will say that Nietzsche was a worm who would have been annihilated in a society that was anything like the one he advocated, but please do not take this statement as a licence to rattle off a whole new reconstruction of my beliefs? That was a comment on the man, not his philosophy. ;-)
Another thing to consider is that different people find different things about Zizek to characterize as loony based on their agenda and indoctrination.
ensteffo I imagine that's true, but given that he thinks it's OK to execute hundreds of thousands of people in an attempt to control the masses, I am afraid I must part company with him. Especially since his hero, Robespierre, singularly failed in this respect and brought about the very thing he dreaded, which was a second Caesar (Napoleon) who won popular support in the armed forces and turned his army on Paris in a successful coup
Total kudos to the journalist ... i don't know what planet he lives on now but no amount of sniffing or gesticulating will mask the fact that Mr Žižek utterly fails to comprehend OR address the essential and fundamentally important meaning and implication of the brexit and trump votes.
Hahahaha nice ending "I write a thousand page book on Hegel, I'm a world-renowned academic on political philosophy, I'm a Marxist and I'm somehow the same as Trump?"
As someone who hates leftism with passion, I hope Žižek remains a pariah amongst them. He understands what happened, while the media and political class are still completely clueless, and it is in my interest that they remain just that.
I am on the politcal left. And I agree with you. Zizek says that the left has failed hard. They are starting to resemble and identify with what they dispute. The American left has failed extremely hard.
They know very well what happened. The goal of CNN, BBC (and so on and so on) is not that the left wins. Is to hijack the leftist discourse in favour of hacks like Hillary so people like Zizek are not in the front of political discourse. The left is the real dangerous ideology for the elites. So they use money to tame it. To make things easy to understand, they prefered Hillary as president, but they also prefered Tremp than Sanders. Btw I hope you get cured from anti-leftism one day.
Slavoj is held up and allowed into the big top because his basic premises will create no real or viable challenge to the financial overlords. But his presence provides the appearance of a spectrum of viewpoints hence supporting the credibility of MSM.
I've watched a lot of zizek and I am always in awe that when somebody interrupts him he instantly stops speaking to let them interject. No matter how passionately he's speaking he always wants the conversation to continue and doesn't want to just lecture somebody he knows more than.
Zizek is an unavoidable coup at our collective (epistemological- funded) conscience
In Southern Europe when people interrupt it's usually not to bully or brag, but to bring something to the discussion. I'm not speaking about TV talk shows but ordinary life. There are some essays in pragmatic linguistics if you are interested.
It's called "upbringing"
If you have worked in any sort of broadcasting for a while and aren't a highly political tv host you learn to stop talking when someone else is very quickly. It is the only way to make understandable audio for viewers.
@@404Dannyboy you should watch some spanish TV
I don’t think any person could accuse Žižek of being boring.
Noam Chomsky would
@@halberggb3124 Charlatan 😉
Definitely. I could listen to him for hours! He's a very eccentric man.
ADHD embodied
You're making it too easy for us. I accuse Zizek of being boring. In 6 words, I have demonstrated you and your whole edifice of thought is wrong.
"I don't understand you, you don't understand me. Can't we at least try to be nice to eachother"
Zizek, I
sadly efforts wasted...a great mind vs propaganda spewing media. intelligence and critical thinking is the enemy!!!
Shame on the BBC for cutting off Slavoj in mid sentence!
And so on!
mightlife gulag for them
he did finish his point though. I'd love a life feed of Trump trying to come up with a book that was more than 5 pages long ... about anything. It could even be about pussies.
You forgot to add another 'and so on' there, comrade.
The BBC cut him off because he was exposing them as fake news: post factual left.
And so on and so on!!!
Poor Slavoj, all that work making a subtle but understandable argument about the failure of modern democracy, and in the end the BBC's angle was "You and Trump are the same amirite?" all along.
shame
fbelard So true! The ending shows that the interviewer wasn't actually listening to slavoj the whole time. Typical, polished BBC newsreader.. So much a part of the establishment he just reads out questions issued forth by the men behind the curtain. Manufacturing consent is alive and well Slavoj
Because the interviewer is a libtard nutjob incapable of thinking critically.
True dat
I think Slavoj understands that the press won't even try sincerely to understand what he's offering. But as a brilliant, exuberant, optimistic radical he is a wonder to listen to. The reason the press people can't keep up with him is because they're busy thinking up their next line and trying to look sharp themselves. A little like Sophie Sheverdnadze (spelling?).
i love how he always reminds us that noam chomsky doesn't like him when he quotes him
That seems to be a general trend whenever he quotes his peers
I know! There is something hopelessly and enthusiastically upbeat about Slavoj. It is a pleasure to hear his ideas.
Larry Sherk you my friend, are my type of person
@Ali Al-Mahdi Chomsky is an idiot. He blames Islamaic Terrorism solely on the Wests Middle Eastern policies.
@@napoleonbonaparteempereurd4676 "Chomsky is an idiot" So says the self-proclaimed "Empreur de la Francois" ….
I feel ripped off. Slavoj only pinched his shirt once and didnt touch his nose at all.
probably because he was talking to one person and a bunch of cameras and NOT a few hundred people.
he did pinch his shirt many times
4:29
@Wesley mango thank you my world is saved!
@@wesleymango2712 When I've read bottomenbliss' comment I gone back to the video and it was just 4:29 lmao
Saying that Žižek and Trump have similar 'views' - LOL BBC
That's what Zizek said, nobody cares about his all books, they just take his jokes and few sentences and voila same as Trump.
It is a shame that they stopped the interview right when he was coming into one of the more interesting bits of his book about intolerance.
The BBC did not say that he had similar views. They said that it was said that he did - and then gave him a chance to respond to that criticism, which he did competently.
they're similarly "extreme" and similarly animated and provocative, one's a passionate Marxist, one's a passionate capitalist...You can't accuse either of them of being middle-of-the-road in any way...
Gave him a chance to respond in the last 10 seconds of the segment. Well, that is just pure cowardice.
"I write a book of one thousand pages about Hegel..nobody counts that" I laughed so hard at that closer
Ignorance is bliss. Forcing ownself remain cunning foolish(a life long subtle acting to hide inbuilt selfishness) is a smart fun.
He perfectly portraits liberal left "discourse" here, were arguments are solely based on vague moralistic virtues. If you have a slightly different opinion, your literally seen as "right wing" or whatever. Many of those people don't care about analysis or material reality.
@@Jaspagion truth!
@@Jaspagion *where
@@lordmurphy4344 oh yes, typo
I love the way he calls him Tramp.
An angry old man that gets off to imperialism? Yes
yessss
Ayylmao
I think you'll find it was "Trrremp".
"Fully integrated in global capitalism, but nationalist conservatives." Wow.
wow and true
That's basically Narendra Modi.
@@sagnikpaul1811 Best definition of him so far!!
@@sagnikpaul1811 Thats actually very rare, but India is highly socialist nation so the last thing u need more of is socialism.
America is the opposite, highly capitalist and the last thing u need is more capitalism
@BakerDude yeah dude, things have totally been going great 🥴👍
I love how his interviewer is all made up and Zizek just doesn't give a damn. Comes in t-shirt and jeans,
I know! So edgy! That’s how we know he’s authentic.
Is something wrong with that?
@@TomAZ1984 Dressing up in a suit just to look nice on television would be the opposite of authentic.
@@DarkAngelEU in case you haven't noticed, every jackass goes on TV in cheap looking jeans and tshirt and think they are being rebellious. They haven't noticed that it's kinda become the default dress.
@@ragnarbluechip8795 In case you haven't noticed, every politician goes on TV in cheap looking suits and tie and think they are being professional. They haven't noticed that it's kinda become the default mockup.
That mic drop at the end was great: "I write a 1000 page book about Hegel and nobody counts that!"
Love Zizek. Brilliant analysis and interview
Most media pundits are not that smart either. Smarter than Trump, yes, but that's hardly a feat. Not like they can discuss with Zizek about Hegel. But boy they'll try to disqualify him anyway
this is distinctively the current situation of post-factualism and how media shaped thoughts in this current culture.... pathetic
Ending statement from Slavoj was amazing, he proved his point, and it was handed to him unknowingly by a post-factual liberal
hilarious and sad at the same time
I just can't stop laughing on the post-factual liberal. 😂😂😂😂😂 It's asking alot for them to read 1000 pages of Hegel!
The moment you realize you love the slovenian zizek accent more than the south england accent. I read his books in his accent. It is lovely.
I imagine Zizek audiobooks read by himself. Those would be best sellers.
I don't think you can compare this guy to Trump lol that is just crazy talk
Cesi CUB Well of course everyone *should* look out for truth of facts for themselves, but they *should* also respect cultural difference, not make war, give as much attention to events happening around the world than the homes happening where they live, and so on. Won't happen though; human nature.
It's so ironic they did that when his entire argument is the Left needs to find a way to tap into a charismatic, exciting revival (like Bernie Sanders), and this failure was capitalized by Trump, Brexit, etc.
Yep this guy has no style, is poor, is not a president, probably no children
@@cesi5494 It's completely the media's fault. Channels like BBC, once reputable news sources, have become part of the powerful apparatus ruled by Davos types that has hijacked the leftist discourse. Zizek is on point. Trump didn't win. What happened is that Hillary lost. She was incredibly underwhelming with her establishment policies that are not that different from a Republican from the 90s. They're different towards Muslim people and the LGTB community, but economically speaking not so much. If charismatic smart people with meaningful ideas like Zizek or Sanders appeared more on media, the left would lead again. But that's not what money wants. They want submissive, fake leftists like Hillary, and populist jokes like Trump covering the political discussion. The BBC is just the other side of the coin in the propaganda machine.
The only thing him and Trump have is common is their BMI and charisma
"the difficult thing is trying to tolerate you in your difference, not trying to swallow you to understand you"
Zizek is spot-on when claiming we live in age of moral disintegration. And banality, I would add. It's been happening for years and consequences are becoming visible...
Examples Religious fundamentalists in America and Middle East. Pseudoscience spreading online. Left hyperliberalism, radical far right black/white ideology... Everyone is a follower - the individuals with real convictions but admit error are dying out. Everybody is an "internet" expert... Urgggg
Moral disintegration in America began in the mid 60’s with the Frankfurt School.
Did you ever notice how, when people seem to disagree with a news post, or how someone points out something critical, even if they don't put it very intelligently, most people will respond with the laughing emoji? As if to say, "I am mocking you"? This one action crystalizes our entire culture at this moment, we prefer to ridicule others than to debate them.
its not a coincidence, and its not an accident either, the system is designed in such a way that it more often enables nihilism in individuals instead of radicalism in groups because there is no amalgamation of people to find community with, that's the missing force of the radical left he references. The reason these groups appear not to exist is because they are systematically destroyed, martin Luther king was killed by the FBI, the black panthers where flat out communists and they where all brutally murdered in police raids ordered by pseudo-authoritarian capitalists. The simple threat of the radical left ever becoming centralised in any place across the globe is enough to justify America spending $700,000,000,000 a year on its military and also requiring anyone considered an ally to spend a minimum of 2% of their GDP on their own military forces. If communism doesn't work then why does America spend so much on "defending American values"? if communism always fails then leave them alone to fail right?
I think it's more like that there is a new big shift happening in our society and these are the consequences. It was the same during the industrial revolution, people also thought that the social fabric is melting, but eventually new society arose from it. One example of this is founding fathers of sociology, like Durkheim.
4 years later, he was actually really on point
5 years later, he’s extremely on point
@@matthewmoreno2080 6 and somehow even more. He predicted the current state of global politics
"John Oliver is the ultimate failure of the left" - ha ha ha. Absolutely.
Here in Brazil we have some John Oliver ripp-off types, but one in particular stands out: Gregorio Duviver. I dont know how can anyone give credit to that fart. And some of the his fans are not dumb (well, if they are, they fool me), but it just amazes me how these people cant see through the bullshit of this "comedic news" propaganda.
that's not what he actually said. he begins at 6:45 - hear for yourself what he says about the approach and attitude of these types of shows. i agree that the comedy news approach of the daily show is a problem. things are terrifying right now and a laughing studio audience just makes things feel bizarre and eerily complacent. what i don't agree with is Slavoj's claim that on the daily show/last week tonight they make fun of ordinary people. that's not happening.
JO is quite funny though, nbut he's right. If only he had said sTEPHEN cOLBERT
@@octopusmime Except they do. Trump supporters are still ordinary people. Which they make fun of. It is very problematic to make fun of a demographic if you really wish for those people to change demographics. It's televised bullying.
some dude hahahaha, tinha q ter um pra falar do Gregório.
I just want to say, I thumbed this up for Slavoj. I may not agree with him, but even he is frustrated with the BBC and many other MSM sources for their bullshit.
pentuplemintgum666 Aren't we all. lol
Phrases for the Zizek drinking game: "Here I claim!", "My God!", "NO!", "Do you realize?", "Liberal left", "Hegelian", "Here I am old fashioned Marxist", "That is precisely..."
"And so on and so forth."
They invite him for several reasons. They can use "we featured Zizek" to defend against accusations of right wing bias. They convince leftists they are a positive media source. Plus, they can sensationalise on what he says. However, this is barely advertised or shared by the BBC- they make no effort to spread his speaking as much as they would a nationalist right-wing public figure who can barely string together a paragraph like Farage and cronies.
Hans Landa Ignorance is bliss. (milk;)
He talks like he is in a pub 😂 the gestures and all. Great guy
Almost punched the "speaking suit" in a face as he gesticulated vehemently.
Žižek is a prolific writer. His books are complex, focused on philosophy. They are extremely well-written so reading them is indeed pure pleasure. I own only two right now because they are long :) His writing on philosophy cannot even compare to "a few comments on twitter made by some other people," which my friend calls "street philosophy," and which is a bunch of meaningless nonsense and/or super obvious statement. That is I think what the last question tried to suggest... Quoting Žižek is for me the same as quoting Shakespeare or Aristotle. He is a true intellectual, and one of the most important philosophers of our time. I love his youtube videos. They have made him a celebrity. However, in a debate about his ideas, I would prefer to argue with someone who has read at least one of his books.
That's a really good observation of this "street philosophy"! The reason it feels obvious is that most philosophies are still built bottom-up, which often warrants context from the society, so the "street philosophies" cannot develop complex philsophies, only one's which differ from the norm one degree (sorry I cannot find a better word). Alternatively, top-down philosophies simply cannot be construed at depth on a place like twitter, and even RUclips would face challenges with something like that. Very interesting side point.
I also agree that to debate him his books are a must, but it is nice to see that he has been able to create valuable discussion that can be absorbed for people less enthralled by his writing.
I love Žižek and so on and so on 💚 he is always helping us to think beyond neocons, democrats and the left, his left thinking is fresh and charismatic.
People in the comments are just pointing out that he is a Marxist as if that disproves anything.
Yes. In this days, being a marxist is the number one thing that can make you wrong.
Gustavo Serrate typical. No, it's not.
I don't understand how at our age and day with the failing capitalist system it possible not be a Marxist
@EggDevilKing94
Marxism or any kind of proper socialism was never properly implemented (because of corruption, mismagament and medling by capitalist states) just saying.
This is true. Everyone complains about socialism without even knowing it, and never was implemented in the right way and in the right conditions. USA never let socialism survive because it's a menace to them.
Zizek is the only Left leaning philosopher that makes sense to me. Even though our political ideologies differ, I truly respect this man.
Man yeah, other marxists are too stuck in the past
"I write a book of one thousand pages about Hegel; nobody counts that."
Brilliant!
Slavoj zizek literally proves his point in this interview
"Slavoj Zizek is one of the most important living philosophers" and a human microphone called "journalist" tells him he is wrong...stick to reporting, you understand nothing of what Zizek is saying.
he is a joke... just like his tie
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@@藍筆幸 I...
I actually like his tie...
I'm sorry...
@Kosmos de Kosmopoliet who are important philosophers?
@@aldious465 Neitzsche, Rand, Loche.. stefan molyneux is a good one thats living. Plenty more, those just popped in my head.
I count that Zizek, I'm on page 55!
Rohme Giuliano Keep going!
Which book!?
Thousand pages book on Hegel
Less Than Nothing: Hegel and the Shadow of Dialectical Materialism @Daniel Atkinson
Is it good? Saw it in my library today.
6 years later... he was 100% spot on.
This is virtually the only time I have ever agreed with Zizek.
snowsandrivers blackfyrestorm at least.
Fortunately Zizek is a philosopher and you don't have to agree with him, and it's even better if you don't because thats mean you think about what you see and hear, and thats a good thing.
This seems fairly consistent with his political views!
Plenty of genocide happens in Capitalist society too. Using the excuse of an abstract economic system as to justify the gruesome terrors of Stalinism is a let off for him and all his supporters. Marxism in it's true form is not violent, and is actually the antithesis to the class violence of thousands of years.
just checking
Slavoj makes a number of good points. Average working class ppl who are repulsed by trump are likewise repulsed by the liberal professional class, of which Hilary was the high priestess. The main philosophy of these pro free market liberals is this so called belief in a meritocracy in which they as the winners, see themselves as morally and economically superior. In fact you could go as far as saying this group of liberals has a hatred, or at least contempt of ordinary working ppl. Their children attend the same schools, and they surround themselves with A- list Hollywood types and the mega rich capitalists who they feel some type of admiration for. At times these groups get together to do some type of charity event for their favourite pet groups, which serves as some kind of therapy for them. The only economic policy solution they can think of is that more education is the solution and that workers need to be more innovative. In reality, this is all just a guise for reduced wages and labour conditions and greater levels of economic insecurity in a globalised world.
People who voted for trump are vicious capitalists make no mistake. However many socialists or social democrats there are in the US they all are in the democratic party or in the smaller virtually irrelevant further left parties.
Let's not forget the republican base rallies to it's party at the mention of someone on the left being a socialist
"Average working class ppl who are repulsed by trump are likewise
repulsed by the liberal professional class, of which Hilary was the high
priestess."
BBC covered this as well. They interviewed the locals in a town in Maryland who usually supported Democrats but many of them feel left out and just want jobs. They don't trust Hillary for obvious reasons and they feel Trump could provide the jobs. The elites are out of touch and it's their own undoing.
"The main philosophy of these pro free market liberals is this so called belief in a meritocracy in which they as the winners, see themselves as morally and economically superior"
I may add, the native working class is viewed as a nuisance that a robot can and should take over, so that these class of people can go to collages and get educated to join their ranks (well not really for the older ones...just for the new generation. Mock trade school and they will go to college) and the foreign immigrant working class seen as a benefit for cheap services that the professional class could not in other ways afford. And anyone who puts a light on this is a racist..
Im not from the US, but we see the same thing in Europe
ThePreciseMoment
In America, H1 visa is used to hire cheaper professional immigrants which the Silicon Valley takes advantage of that's why you see many immigrants working there.
Yet, Democrats don't consistently and actively attack worker's rights, citizen and environmental protecting regulation, pro-citizen programs like universal healthcare, public education, public infrastructure, etc. like Republicans do. How can you POSSIBLY sit here and argue about the "liberal" contempt for working people and "superiority" when our country is now run by a corporate oligarchy, full of union busting, regulation attacking, tax-dodging, corporate welfare consuming conglomerates? Either you're incredibly delusional or just another Russian paid troll
"we will have presidents like Putin, Modi in India...fully integrated in global capitalism but nationalists at home"
:(
"I write a book of 1000 pages about Hegel, nobody counts that."
As someone who is generally pro-free market, Zizek sure makes a lot of good points
What are those points?
Something will happen- and very soon. This next 10 years will be very exiting for us interesting in politics
specially the exiting part which is exciting.
+theblackswan x
Brexit, Trump, Le Pen, Wilders, rise of the alt right. Very exciting indeed.
theblackswan x Lame.
I would rather call it a rise against the establishment! A revolt against robbing western countries for good jobs, and the horrific trickle UP economics and crony capitalism that are serving only the very few stinking rick ppl. As Bernie said; "Enough if Enough".
So Trump was elected this time. Very sad and unfortunate, in my opinion :( BUT it only happened cos the DNC establishment was backstabbing all other candidates for president in their own party, and they crowned Clinton months before any votes where given in the primaries.
In England the "establishment" has been trying to get rid of Corbyn - but fortunately they have not succeeded thus far. From my perspective, it even looks like Corbyn has been strengthen?
+theblackswan x
Are you implying that Bernie would have won against Trump? Bernie was popular among millennials but that't not enough to win an election. As for Corbyn, Labour is lagging pretty far behind Tories.
One day, Slavoj Zizek will be considered one of the biggest thinkers - if not the biggest - in human history. Everything this man does or says is borderline perfection.
"I write a book of 1000 pages of Hegel, nobody counts that" possibly the best ending words to an interview I've heard
Only Slavoj comes to a BBC interview in a t-shirt and jeans.
Extremely disturbing and patronising manner of the interviewer. Shame bbc
wow so much passion and zeal in him .
Zizek is so on point here. Yanis Varoufakis makes the same points. We have a "nationalist international" now, and for the left to retreat to traditional nation-state revolutionary tactics is bound to fail. We need to propose bigger and better ideas than the right. Our real enemy is the liberal establishment silencing and defaming popular candidates like Sanders and Corbyn. Beyond electoral politics, what we need is an international solidarity movement to counteract global capitalism and the nationalist movement worldwide.
No the last thing the west should do is go global and interfere in other countries(though we already do)
Absolutists in any form: pure capitalists or socialists are both horrible, that shit kills nations.
This
Solidarity is slave morality.
love the way this guy talks, animated doesn't even cut it
He must be smart for people to want to hear him talk despite his nigh incomprehensible voice
topdog If he spoke in a British accent he would be mega popular by now
Incomprehensible for those who don’t speak his native tongue...
Zizek never considered the possibility of trump getting THREE supreme court pics. That didn't work out so well.
i love how excited he gets
In the very end of the interview BBC journo asks a stupid questions which is the exact issue that Slavok is addressing.
Žižek is the reason I changed my studies. Philosophy in the academic ways is enable of giving some reason and knowledge. They don't study things as they are in the real world, but in a very idealistic way. In other words: when you hear a "philosopher" talking about economics, run for your life.
another interviewer who prefers the sound of his own voice
Zizek is the intellectual of our time.
Always love Zizek!
Slavoj is very interesting and insightful, he has a lot of great ideas about economics. He puts a great perspective on the actual role of people within the work place. His points of morality in the public sphere is really good as well, love 5:31
I like how Zizek always wears a casual wear
That ending is beautiful.
That tie is astonishing.
I love and respect zizek
The man is a genius, I may not share most of his views, but he is consistently passionate and committed to his vision indeed. 99% wouldn't understand him though.
Zizek je kralj.
Cut his mic off, that's the greatest sign of how insecure you are in your neoliberal foundation falling apart if people can be educated
Zizek is so smart that he just starts looking crazy lol
smart and with common sense, a rare figure for nowadays, please listen to him Beyond the appearence
The interviewer looks a bit like Lobster Peterson.
Hahahahahahahaha, prophet has emerged
stop mocking Jordan'he is a good man
I love the amount of exposure Zizek is getting on British television at the moment :)
>"The failure of the left to capitalize".
>OhLordMySides.exe
Nice interview
Interviewer seems threatened
Because he knows how to debate way better than most people. The journalist is lucky that he can take the mic from him whenever he wants.
5:49
Damn I knew Zizek for somke time now but only now that I'm watching more of him I get just how reasonable and smart and humble he is.
"Doesn't it bring you to a cold sweat?" Arrogance.
wow , zizek on the BBC !
i think his only issue was thinking the democratic party will change, when they came back into power they specifically went for the most boring centrist candidate possible because hes comfortable and better than trump. if anybody is going to change their thinking, its going to be common people, not democrat politicians
At the time of the election it seemed very possible that there could be a strong leftist reaction and even during the primaries it was never certain that Biden was going to be nominated over Sanders
And so on and so on!
there should be a microphone especially designed for him. lel.
and the interviewer's mouth looks funny, when he's talking.
It is good to hear someone who finally gets it.
Damn, he got really riled up at the end.
Fine Zizek we will read your Hegel influenced books calm down. ;)
Yeah but I mean, don't you find it unprofessional to ask someone a provocative and offensive question like that and give them about 10 seconds to respond?
Surely they knew he wouldn't like hearing "LOL U N TRUMP ARE THE SAME AMIRITE?"
Shruti Rathod how was it?
How would you feel if you're a respected academic and some guy who is clearly not in your league says in a completely dismissive way that you're the same as an illiterate politician who has never read a book.
That was an awesome ending.
This guy has said a lot of loony things in his career, but he is spot on this time. When you hear him talk about Robespierre and the Terror you will see how monstrous his views can be, so it pays to be selective and to listen carefully with Zizek
Ash, you're a first year piano student trying to correct Art Tatum on his fingering.
First, Robespierre and the Terror brought about the modern bourgeois state. In doing this, the French revolutionaries fought the monarchy, feudal nobility and clerical powers. The hope and fear of the first Napoleon was that he'd destroy the monarchies and bring parliamentary republican reform throughout Europe.
Understand history as the progression towards the present and stop painting things black and white.
For perspective..
America's revolution was a colonial uprising.
The French revolution was a civil war.
Think of the French Revolution more like the American Civil War (with all the brutality that issued from that)
You can say the relentless murder and carnage of the American Civil War was horrific, even evil, but you can't say that the Civil War didn't need to happen. It's the same thing with the French Revolution.
So your reduction: Robespierre = bad is a overly simplistic view of complex political and historical developments of humanity.
Obviously, murder and slaughter is bad but by such a rubric we should say capitalism = bad. Going even further toward the nihilist stance: everything = bad as nature is nothing but a system which devours itself. So existence = bad. But that just creates an inverted value system were everything except nihilism is bad. Thus nihilism = good.
There's always going to be something bad to justify the good. But what if the good itself is not good enough to be justified? What if all justifications ultimately rest not upon morality but power and deadly force? Let me know if I'm getting too Nietzschean for your tastes, Ashy baby. ;)
Rohme Giuliano Well, Rohmey baby, you attributed a vast range of views to me, whilst having no actual idea of what they are, save for my stated view that Zizek's analysis of Robespierre is monstrous. It is precisely this tendency to over-generalise on the basis of assumptions that makes me hope that reactionary student union types, such as you appear to be, never get their twitchy, unthinking fingers on the levers of power.
I guess I can picture you sitting beside Robespierre and Zizek, taking one look at my post, and then assuming away with gusto, creating a fictional back story for me and attributing your picture of my entire political, academic and professional career for me, without anything more to go on than my single statement, your overzealous instincts - enslaved as they are to your cultural prejudices - and your inability to conceive of the possibility that you could be in error or that there may be something that you could learn from the world, if you would only take a moment to stop preaching at it, and from all of this you would probably designate me a subversive and have me sent to the block.
God forbid that you would tolerate a difference of opinion and let it roam free in the world unchecked? Heaven fore fend that you might think before bleating out two or three passages from a textbook? And most of all, let us never consider that another person's view might be different from the one we, the elite, have assigned him?!
Tell you what, if you want to know what I ACTUALLY THINK, why don't you ask me? If you want to discuss something with an open mind, you are required to consider the chance that, just maybe, you don't already know what I believe before you have asked me. Do you think you can do that? Maybe remember your training (if you were or are a student of history), which teaches against assumption, and encourages a slightly more forensic approach to learning.
Let me know if I'm getting to Zizekian for your tastes, won't you, please?
P.S. I will say that Nietzsche was a worm who would have been annihilated in a society that was anything like the one he advocated, but please do not take this statement as a licence to rattle off a whole new reconstruction of my beliefs? That was a comment on the man, not his philosophy. ;-)
Hmmm, nothing to say to me now? I didn't expect so
Another thing to consider is that different people find different things about Zizek to characterize as loony based on their agenda and indoctrination.
ensteffo I imagine that's true, but given that he thinks it's OK to execute hundreds of thousands of people in an attempt to control the masses, I am afraid I must part company with him. Especially since his hero, Robespierre, singularly failed in this respect and brought about the very thing he dreaded, which was a second Caesar (Napoleon) who won popular support in the armed forces and turned his army on Paris in a successful coup
Reporters do not give their opinion. Golden rule of good journalism.
His prediction was correct. The Democratic party has moved to the left on many issues since the beginning of Trump's presidency.
JOE BIDEN JOINED THE CHAT
This guy would be an AWESOME “dottore’” character in Commedia Del Arte’
This guy should have subtitles 24/7 its like he has a mouthful of peanut butter
Lmfaoooo I finally found someone who was thinking the same thing. I’m surprised nobody else said the same
Total kudos to the journalist ... i don't know what planet he lives on now but no amount of sniffing or gesticulating will mask the fact that Mr Žižek utterly fails to comprehend OR address the essential and fundamentally important meaning and implication of the brexit and trump votes.
Muh Hegel.
Hahahaha nice ending
"I write a thousand page book on Hegel, I'm a world-renowned academic on political philosophy, I'm a Marxist and I'm somehow the same as Trump?"
As someone who hates leftism with passion, I hope Žižek remains a pariah amongst them.
He understands what happened, while the media and political class are still completely clueless, and it is in my interest that they remain just that.
bwoiiii the gulags are gonna be revving hot for you!
maybe check out jonathan pie
I am on the politcal left. And I agree with you. Zizek says that the left has failed hard. They are starting to resemble and identify with what they dispute. The American left has failed extremely hard.
They know very well what happened. The goal of CNN, BBC (and so on and so on) is not that the left wins. Is to hijack the leftist discourse in favour of hacks like Hillary so people like Zizek are not in the front of political discourse. The left is the real dangerous ideology for the elites. So they use money to tame it. To make things easy to understand, they prefered Hillary as president, but they also prefered Tremp than Sanders. Btw I hope you get cured from anti-leftism one day.
You are the voice of Reason...!
Why does this guy always have a stain on his shirt in every video of him
Better a stain on your shirt than an echo in your skull, mate! You can wash dirt but never add brain matter.
free speech means I can speak any way I choose,not what you think is moral
BBC can't deinterlace their videos?
absolutely: nooooooope.
And then it came true
@7:47
Is he talking about multiculturalism or describing this interview?
I disagree with him 80% on several issues, but I love him. A truly fascinating individual.
Elvis of cultural theory, not Marxism!
Hes more Jim Morrison
Similar my ass. Like Trump even knows who Hegel is
Slavoj is held up and allowed into the big top because his basic premises will create no real or viable challenge to the financial overlords. But his presence provides the appearance of a spectrum of viewpoints hence supporting the credibility of MSM.
imagine something like this ever airing in the states
I can't understand what he's spraying :(
jasonr1150gs lol
jasonr1150gs there is no need to be mean
You are right. There is no need
Have to agree, even if you don't....Thank you Mr Z.
*sniff* I am horrified at Tremp!
history and philosophers show the world who we are and why and yet both are wrong and right at the same time, Slavoj the voice of time