World exclusive unboxing ... 1/32 Hong Kong Model A-20 J/K Havoc/Boston IV
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- Опубликовано: 19 окт 2024
- Neil over at HKM has sent me this kit for review.. The brand new A-20J/K Havoc and Boston IV. What a beauty!! Highly recommended!!
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Brilliant review mate, brilliant kit, just hoping it will come out in 1/48 soon. If only I had more space...
Thanks so much Nigel
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Well, you've convinced me and mine is on the way. Looking forward to my first HK model. Great job on the review.
I'm waiting for this to come in 1/48. Thanks for the review!
Nigel the last two letters in the designation (-DO) indicate which factory constructed the plane. (DO) would be the main Douglas factory in California (Santa Monica?) (DT was the Douglas factory in Tulsa). As in Britain various manufacturers made other company's aircraft under licence. All the American factories were assigned different two letter codes.
Yep, Santa Monica
Hi Nigel. Once again a great video. And the first person who can build this. Top. The very best part from the beginning ...listening to Jess playing ball. Unfortunately not in the video. jeje Good to know that Jess is doing well. Another great model. WIth al the beautiful kits i don't know what to buy. Many greetings, especially for Jess with a big hug from Thomas in Mexico.
Glad you enjoyed it
Hi Nigel, with regard to the engines, both the G and J models had the -23 variants, the H and K the -29, with about 100 extra HP. The exhaust stacks are the clayton s type (also seen on the B-25) and seem to have been introduced from the G-35 (i think) and all Js, Hs and Ks,for better flame damping. Nerd out burst over! 😂 great video, though. I'm really looking forward to seeing your build of this one!
I have been looking into this tonight and have read that the exhaust arrangements were shared between G,J,K,H so there could be any set up on any airframe? I cannot find anything that links the 23/29 to the different exhaust layout?
@@NigelsModellingBench I think you're right on that. Certainly the aircraft with the -23s in them carried both types of exhaust, not so the ones with the -29s, as far as I've seen, but i dont think that was engine related. Apparently the -29 was put in the Hs and Ks as Wright had discontinued the -23 production, but Douglas went on building A-20s!
In part 21 of the G build you will see me have a proper rant about the Wolf book on the A-20. I am looking into different recognition and identification light packages. The book goes into detailed explanations about the style of wiring used, fuse supply by different block numbers and so on, then just says at block xx the lights were changed to AAF style? It also says that at block XX the lights were changed from A8 to A9 type???? What the hell does all this mean?? They also go on to say that the exhaust types are random across different models.... Great!! Wingleader books are much better than that waste of money.
@NigelsModellingBench totally agree. And when you factor in the cost of the book, wing leader win hands down!
Nigel, you're correct. That's very nice and can't wait for this build.
Glad to see you back and firing on all cylinders Nigel! Sorry to hear about Jess. I just got two of these kits delivered last week which has rekindled my researching. A couple of points that might be of interest for Boston IV versions: I read that the RAF IVs didn't have the forward firing 50cals. While I can't find any good reference shots for the RAF, I did find some 342 Loraine Sqdr pics that show the gun ports covered - and pretty permanently, not just taped over for flight. As a sister squadron to RAF's 88 sqdr, my bet is that they'd been the same. The evidence for Mk XIV bombsight is growing too - so I'm glad I saved mine from the BM Lanc build. Are you still planning to build a 'J'?
I will build this as a Boston..
Dear Nigel,
Another review of a good looking kit from HK. I remarked elsewhere on formation lights as I gather they were fairly standard on US aircraft of the era.
Good work sir!!
Regards,
Z
Hi Nigel, Really nice kit👍🏻 I found Paul Stewart's channel, that you probably already know. He's got really nice walk-arounds on many planes, including ww2 bombers, that are mostly restored in museums, but still very interesting to watch.
Yeah, I watch him from time to time.
At last! Great review as ever Nigel - my order's in.
As for dates, the Wingleader book is slightly out. Although the Boston IVs weren't flown 'en mass' until mid June 44 as they say, the first Boston IV (BZ449) actually flew its first op with 88 Squadron on May 1st - a raid on marshalling yards at Hirson. I also remember my father telling me that the new IVs were flown into Hartford Bridge throughout May and all were parked up on the far side of the airfield. When he asked why they weren't flying them he was told they were being held back as replacements for after D Day, from which they didn't expect too many of the IIIa s to return from. A comment he didn't find too encouraging! So what stripes the 400 series of IVs had is a bit of a mystery I think.
BZ449 flew again on 5th May but not again until 12th June when BZ412 was also introduced - a plane which my Dad went on to fly later in that month. I imagine that these May flights were more tests than anything else. So, what stripes the rest of 400 series of IVs had is a bit of a mystery I think.
The first of the 500 series flew on 1st Jan 45, with BX515 (as in the HK kit) flying its first op on 2nd. so I think its pretty certain that they all flew with the post October 44 recognition markings.
Sorry for the nerdy ramble!
Not nerdy in the slightest. Fascinating, in fact. Thank you for sharing.
My Father too was a pilot in WW II and it's always interesting to hear from those whose circumstances were similar.
Nothing to do with A-20s/Bostons, I know, but in the time frame you describe, Dad was the far side of world in Australia, flying across the Timor Sea, shooting up Japanese fuel dumps and strafing parked aircraft.
These World Wars, eh, it was all go, wasn't it? 👍
Zotz decals just released an A-20J decal sheet with 8 different U.S. planes. I know they are a bit thicker than Cartograph but still not bad.
I have this one preorder Nigel thank you for inbox review
The lights under the rear fuselage are not formation lights. They are coloured identity lights. (Red, Amber, and Green I think). They were used to flash a morse letter/colour combination to antiaircraft guns/friendly ships etc (colour/code of the day). Somewhere in the cockpit there was a control box to select which lamp(s) to use and a key to tap out the morse letter. They were used in the same way as an Aldis lamp or the various colour flares combinations fired from a Verey pistol.
Thank you. I'm not sure many of the US planes had them at all?
First I've heard of them being used for Morse, I always figured it would be a "code of the day" type of thing for nighttime ops.
The lights in the tail of the B-17 were to signal bomb release to trailing aircraft.
Dear Nigel,
I think most did- Wildcats, Corsairs, Mustangs and of course A20s!
Regards,
Z
@@ZinzanModelling yes, but was that only in UK service?
@@NigelsModellingBench It would appear to be in all services for American aircraft.
Cheers!
R
Yup definitely going to have to build a Boston. Might have to take to Boston, the original one, down the road and glue one piece on, then I can say it’s a Boston built in Boston.👍
Great video Nigel quality info as we’ve all come to expect.
Congratulations on exceeding 27k
Great idea!!
Hi Nigel, Thanks for a great review. This looks like a great kit. Thanks for sharing. Have a great day. Jeff
Thanks for watching
Fair review, Nige of what is essentially 95% A-20G. (I seem to recall, AMT doing something similar with their '48, 90s offerings.) This does look a nice product, no doubt, but has your mate at HKM made you privy to any future releases from them? It seems at the moment it's just Lancs, B-17s and Havocs. It'd be nice if you could herald a Halifax, Wellington, Hampden or Whitley. Imagine a '32nd Manchester? A Liberator, Marauder also from HKM. Wonderful. All easier said than done, I know, but one can only have that many Lancs and B-17s, surely?
As soon as this is knowledge that can be shared, I'm sure Neil will let me know.
@@NigelsModellingBench Thanks for the response, Nige. I came across your review of Hobby Boss' 1/32 B-24J from about 5 years ago. I was left with the impression you really liked the kit but it had its issues, namely the props and perspex representations of the fore and aft turrets, to name a few.
A search on the site of our mates in Lowestoft show lots of a.m. now available but still no solution for the turrets. Is this the reason there's been no build of this kit? A build video from you on this a/c would be really good.
Tell your mate at HKM a big Lib's long overdue from them. 😉👍
I have new resin turret glazing from a company called Cold War Studio. Too much on the go right now to do the B-24.
@@NigelsModellingBench Ta for that. Will search them up.
Too much on your plate? Nah, you're 'SuperNige'!! Just get that red cloak on. 😉
Keep the great content coming. 👍
Would SMS paints go well with this build? I ask only because I am moving (slowly) over to SMS paints especially for its airbrushing abilities. Can’t seem to find a fault so far on builds I’ve done.
Throughly enjoying your channel, very educational 👍🏻
Yes, absolutely
This kit looks smashing, the attention to detail paid by the Hong Kong team needs applauding.
A question for you, at 43:07 you are showing the French Mk IV Wingleader image. On the top down view of the aircraft, inboard of the Tricolour roundels are those British RAF roundels overprinted?
Cheers Nige
Quite posibly.
It would be an interesting way of adding an additional interest factor to a model
well done on the 27k Nige, thoroughly deserved👏🏻👏🏻
Thanks James. The long and winding road........
Nice review Nigel. That model would look great in my stach. 😊
Nigel, just a thought: With all these detailed interiors included in the 1/32 Lancaster, B17 and A-20 kits for example, it would be neat to see someone get out the razor saw and build a kit with the appropriate side panel material removed for an open display of the interior from the nose to the rear. I just think it's a waste to always cover up all that detail. Some thought would have to given to equipment lost from the removed panels. I think one opened aircraft model would be a nice addition to one's collection. Great review!
It's 2024 not 1984 😅 all of our hard work in interiors can be seen forevermore on our socials, usually much more than the actual build itself. Personally I don't understand going to extreme measures detail wise to hit high accuracy levels only to cut out panels which destroys the illusion of reality. 1:13:09
.I agree with you. Perhaps include an extra fuselage half that's molded in clear plastic so you can paint one side and leave the other half 'visible'
That looks a great kit. My thing is WW2 aircraft but tbh I haven't ever really considered doing a tricycle type, but this is very very tempting. Wish someone would do a nice 1/32 C47.
They do, HpH makes one.
Really cool 👍
Other possible models. I am a fan of WWII aircraft. Early war. There were twin engine bombers like the " Baltimore" and anothet similar. Think models of those aircraft might be in the future?
Very much doubt that in styrene?
I wish there was a new 1/48 Havoc!
I'm sure there will be??
Nigel it's not relevant to the video but I can't get my paint to bond to my model. I have washed them in warm water with washing up liquid .Rinsed of like your video you made .As you can imagine I'm getting a little peed off .I prime with vallejo grey and most of my paints are tamiya fx range.
Your problem is your Vallejo paint. It does not bond well to plastic.
@@NigelsModellingBench🤦
@@NigelsModellingBench OK thanks Nigel will change my primer and see what happens 👋👋
Love all your video, like your politeness and you modeler’s work. Just my friendly two cents: you “must” do always what you like the most but the A20 theme is starting to be a bit redundant. Again…just my friendly two cents
Noted! I am currently also building three other aircraft on the channel.
@@NigelsModellingBench I know…. I see all the videos always 👍🏻👍🏻
David R Lentz, Columbus, Ohio, USA (Tuesday, 13 August, 2024)
So much here I scarcely know where to begin! My guess is that one also could build from this kit a model of a Douglas A-20 G/H Havoc. Is that correct? Oh, my kit stash wish list keeps growing and growing! SMH :) As it is, I am going to need immortality just to keep abreast of all my projects!
In addition to models of an A-20J, -K, -G, and -H, would you know if Hong Kong Models plans to issue a model kit of a Douglas P-70 Blackhawk USAAF Night Fighter/Intruder? If not, 1) would one be able to convert any of these kits to such a replica? If so, 2) what steps it would require one to take to accomplish this?
I saw something I thought you might find of interest. I recently mentioned having watched your review of Boeing’s E-7A USAF Airborne Early Warning & Control (AEW&C) Aircraft (from the Boeing 737-800 passenger airliner), the USAF’s replacement for their distinctive AWACS jet (the Boeing E-3B Airborne Warning and Control System [AWACS] USAF Aircraft, itself based upon the Boeing 707-300B passenger airliner from the 1960s).
Incidentally, U.S. defence R&D and manufacturing initially developed the E-7A for the Royal Australian Air Force (RAAF) under “Project Wedgetail”, which the Republic of Korea Air Force (RoKAF), Turkish Air Force, and the UK’s Royal Air Force (RAF) later adopted. (My guess is that France, Japan, and Israel will be in the queue.)
The point of my note is that I recently saw a listing for sale of AMT Ertl’s 1:72nd-scale kit of the Boeing EC-135C “Looking Glass” Airborne Command Post (Model Kit 8955) on eBay for round 128 USD. It in essence is a Boeing KC-135E Stratotanker USAF Refueller with the cargo space above the tankage (almost 2.1 metres; or 6’11”) converted to a command centre from which a flag rank officer (an admiral or a general) in a national security emergency holds overall command of the U.S. defence.
Your reviews are among the best out there, but at the same time somewhat disconcerting in terms of price. The basic A20 kit is £240 (Hannants) and all the extras you refer to must add between £50 and £100, which is frightening rather than disconcerting! Unfortunately such sums put these models out of my reach. However I shall continue to watch and enjoy your reviews and builds.
Its actually £216 at the moment on pre order at Hannants and will be cheaper else where eventually. As I said a few times in the video, it will build beautifully OOB, BUT, I am just letting you know there are options out there.
Nice
Mines on order with jadlam
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Half metre wing span :) Not too big then (I only wish I had that sort of space free).
Sorry Nick.. but remember the wings on this are removeable.
@@NigelsModellingBench C'est la Vie. Another side effect of living in central London
It would be nice if they would do a b24d the new hobby boss one is all wrong they made more b24s then b17s they carried more bombs and whemt further where used more simce they made more tell hk I've seen 8 forums about people wishing they would have already made one talk to your guys
I thought the 1/48B-24 was OK?
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