Once again a very helpful video man. I really appreciate you. I have been researching forever and thought of going 275 but with this video I can finally dream of 285s. I have 3 follow up questions: 1- Are there major dis advanced of having SL rated tires over C rated for the Toyo Open Country AT3? 2- Given these tires are not much different in weight, did the Toyo 285 tires impact your fuel economy or performance? 3- I have a 20 TRD offroad 4runner. I am guessing I would need a mild lift. Do you think Bilstein 5100 or 6112 (about 1.75 or 1.9 inch) lift should be enough to clear these tires? Again I seriously appreciate your channel, it's really underrated. Liked and Subscribed!!
Thank you for you kind words. I would try to share my experience as much as possible when time available. As for your questions, IMO; 1) The disadvantage on SL rated tires are strength in offroad against punctures. To my experience C rated tires are a nice balance between onroad comfort and offroad peace of mind. This time I’m taking some risk with SL tires. Since I have a new kid I most likely be on gravel roads / easy trails. 2) I don’t notice mpg hit on these Toyo 285 SL tires. To me they feel like having stock 265s. For sure this all depends on driver, traffic situation, etc.. 3) Most important thing is push the fender liner as far as possible and fit the bottom 10mm bolts. Then cut the lower lip of the bumper to match the fender liner position. Use a heat gun and push the mud flap as much as possible. With that I think closer to 2in lift you should be able to fit 285s. Factory TRD ORP wheels are +15 offset vs TRD Pro wheels are +4 offset. You have better offset to fit 285s than me. So you should have better luck than me. Both 5100 & 6112 would be really nice. If you could go for little expensive shocks with adjusters the ride would be even better. I had Elka 2.5DC on my TRD ORP. The ride comfort offroad is next level. My TRD Pro shocks are pathetic compared to those.
@@LionRunner ok got it. I am a 90-10 driver (90% on road) here in Texas. high way comfort and driving through rough bumpy roads are priority for me. may be Bilsteins would be too rough for my needs? but then again its very affordable and I can get mild lift. given if I go 285 and have high centre of gravity having a good handle and less body roll might be a good bet too I am guessing.
Great video. Not long at all, as it does indeed, take time to explain things in detail sometimes. Merry Christmas to you and your loved ones, my friend. Stay warm, and safe.
Thank you for the video! Helped me decide to go with these 285 Toyo’s in SL load, not C load. I previously had 275 BFG KO2 in E Load and I didn’t like the comfort either. Too stiff.
Same story my friend. I too had 275/70R17 KO2s on my TRD ORP. Since KO2s have real 3 ply side wall its firm (most A/Ts don't have 3ply side wall like KO2 has). Pros and Cons to each.
I could use some real world 4runner advice. My fam is considering nabbing one of these final 5th gens. Narrowed it down to the Offroad Premium, Offroad Premium with KDSS, or the TRDPro. Resale value is meaningful, though we do keep vehicles for the long term. Mostly on-road and light trail performance prioritized. No major offroading or modification intended at this time (perhaps mods in future), but we like to have serious get-out-of-a-jam capability just in case. How would you rate these three options? Show less
Me personally won’t pick ORP with KDSS, one of the reason been reliability. I don’t want to deal with Toyota dealer only repair part then KDSS start to leak or have lean issues. I enjoy the JBL sound system in the TRD Pro (and Limited). Not bad for a Toyota. Also having remote start from phone was a big thing when we had the new born in winter time where I was able to start the car from the hospital / doctor office. Automatic head lights, dual zone climate control also nice to have. Non KDSS ORP is really value for money and you can pick aftermarket suspension way better than TRD Pro Fox. Wider 7.5x17 wheels on ORP are also a big value when you want to upgrade to bigger tires. The big reason my wife drive the Limited is because TRD 4wd selector is too hard to use. With Limited fulltime 4wd she can just drive like a AWD vehicle without thinking about anything. Our previous SR5 with 3rd row was crazy value for money and I could have added front and rear lockers, suspension, tires and make it more capable than a TRD Pro. So in summary every trim has a very valid reason to buy.
sorry I havn't had a chance to test yet. (new born, no off roading for a while). I bet that angle right before full lock of tire turn would rub at the mud flap. I might need to add a spacer. Might have to use a kit like Wescott or something similar.
I haven't had a chance to test mpg properly. If long waits at school driving line counts I'm at 16mpg as of now. May be during school break can do a better test with reasonable driving scenario.
TRD Pro are only about 1in lift front and 0 in rear compared to other 4x4 trims. That's why TRD Pro also have same 9.6in ground clearance. Also TRD Pro have +4 offset 17x7 wheels vs SR5 have +15 offset 17x7 in wheels. Since it's +4, pushed more outward it has more chances of rubbing issues. If SR5 had same 1in lift like TRD Pro , it might have less/no rubbing I would guess.
TRD Pro are only about 1in lift front and 0 in rear compared to other 4x4 trims. That's why TRD Pro also have same 9.6in ground clearance. Also TRD Pro have +4 offset 17x7 wheels vs SR5 have +15 offset 17x7 in wheels. Since it's +4, pushed more outward it has more chances of rubbing issues. If SR5 had same 1in lift like TRD Pro , it might have less/no rubbing I would guess.
Once again a very helpful video man. I really appreciate you. I have been researching forever and thought of going 275 but with this video I can finally dream of 285s. I have 3 follow up questions:
1- Are there major dis advanced of having SL rated tires over C rated for the Toyo Open Country AT3?
2- Given these tires are not much different in weight, did the Toyo 285 tires impact your fuel economy or performance?
3- I have a 20 TRD offroad 4runner. I am guessing I would need a mild lift. Do you think Bilstein 5100 or 6112 (about 1.75 or 1.9 inch) lift should be enough to clear these tires?
Again I seriously appreciate your channel, it's really underrated. Liked and Subscribed!!
Thank you for you kind words. I would try to share my experience as much as possible when time available. As for your questions, IMO;
1) The disadvantage on SL rated tires are strength in offroad against punctures. To my experience C rated tires are a nice balance between onroad comfort and offroad peace of mind. This time I’m taking some risk with SL tires. Since I have a new kid I most likely be on gravel roads / easy trails.
2) I don’t notice mpg hit on these Toyo 285 SL tires. To me they feel like having stock 265s. For sure this all depends on driver, traffic situation, etc..
3) Most important thing is push the fender liner as far as possible and fit the bottom 10mm bolts. Then cut the lower lip of the bumper to match the fender liner position. Use a heat gun and push the mud flap as much as possible. With that I think closer to 2in lift you should be able to fit 285s. Factory TRD ORP wheels are +15 offset vs TRD Pro wheels are +4 offset. You have better offset to fit 285s than me. So you should have better luck than me.
Both 5100 & 6112 would be really nice. If you could go for little expensive shocks with adjusters the ride would be even better. I had Elka 2.5DC on my TRD ORP. The ride comfort offroad is next level. My TRD Pro shocks are pathetic compared to those.
@@LionRunner ok got it. I am a 90-10 driver (90% on road) here in Texas. high way comfort and driving through rough bumpy roads are priority for me. may be Bilsteins would be too rough for my needs? but then again its very affordable and I can get mild lift. given if I go 285 and have high centre of gravity having a good handle and less body roll might be a good bet too I am guessing.
Great video. Not long at all, as it does indeed, take time to explain things in detail sometimes. Merry Christmas to you and your loved ones, my friend. Stay warm, and safe.
Merry Christmas to you and yours as well..😀🎄🎉
Definitely not too long. This should help those interested in upgrading their tires to this size tire.
Thank you very much for your kind words 🙏
Thank you for the video! Helped me decide to go with these 285 Toyo’s in SL load, not C load. I previously had 275 BFG KO2 in E Load and I didn’t like the comfort either. Too stiff.
Same story my friend. I too had 275/70R17 KO2s on my TRD ORP. Since KO2s have real 3 ply side wall its firm (most A/Ts don't have 3ply side wall like KO2 has). Pros and Cons to each.
I have E Load Falken WP 33” on my 3rd Gen , too stiff !!
I could use some real world 4runner advice. My fam is considering nabbing one of these final 5th gens. Narrowed it down to the Offroad Premium, Offroad Premium with KDSS, or the TRDPro. Resale value is meaningful, though we do keep vehicles for the long term. Mostly on-road and light trail performance prioritized. No major offroading or modification intended at this time (perhaps mods in future), but we like to have serious get-out-of-a-jam capability just in case. How would you rate these three options?
Show less
Me personally won’t pick ORP with KDSS, one of the reason been reliability. I don’t want to deal with Toyota dealer only repair part then KDSS start to leak or have lean issues.
I enjoy the JBL sound system in the TRD Pro (and Limited). Not bad for a Toyota. Also having remote start from phone was a big thing when we had the new born in winter time where I was able to start the car from the hospital / doctor office. Automatic head lights, dual zone climate control also nice to have.
Non KDSS ORP is really value for money and you can pick aftermarket suspension way better than TRD Pro Fox. Wider 7.5x17 wheels on ORP are also a big value when you want to upgrade to bigger tires.
The big reason my wife drive the Limited is because TRD 4wd selector is too hard to use. With Limited fulltime 4wd she can just drive like a AWD vehicle without thinking about anything.
Our previous SR5 with 3rd row was crazy value for money and I could have added front and rear lockers, suspension, tires and make it more capable than a TRD Pro.
So in summary every trim has a very valid reason to buy.
@@LionRunner much appreciate your detailed response!
Can’t go wrong with any 4R
Great channel 👏
Thank you very much 🙂
Any rubbing while off roading?
sorry I havn't had a chance to test yet. (new born, no off roading for a while). I bet that angle right before full lock of tire turn would rub at the mud flap. I might need to add a spacer. Might have to use a kit like Wescott or something similar.
Did the SL 285s affect fuel economy?
I haven't had a chance to test mpg properly. If long waits at school driving line counts I'm at 16mpg as of now. May be during school break can do a better test with reasonable driving scenario.
@@LionRunner thanks for getting back to me! Nice job on the video!
Ur 4Runner 3 inches higher than the standard sr5. So know this isn’t a one size fits all.
TRD Pro are only about 1in lift front and 0 in rear compared to other 4x4 trims. That's why TRD Pro also have same 9.6in ground clearance. Also TRD Pro have +4 offset 17x7 wheels vs SR5 have +15 offset 17x7 in wheels. Since it's +4, pushed more outward it has more chances of rubbing issues. If SR5 had same 1in lift like TRD Pro , it might have less/no rubbing I would guess.
TRD Pro are only about 1in lift front and 0 in rear compared to other 4x4 trims. That's why TRD Pro also have same 9.6in ground clearance. Also TRD Pro have +4 offset 17x7 wheels vs SR5 have +15 offset 17x7 in wheels. Since it's +4, pushed more outward it has more chances of rubbing issues. If SR5 had same 1in lift like TRD Pro , it might have less/no rubbing I would guess.