1970's - 80's were Sunderland Vaux Boys , as i remember a firm of Blokes in Donkey N.C.B. & Shipyard jackets ,wearing Steel toe caps , the proper type with steel on the outside.
I remember when Sunderland came to Leeds back in 1977. There's a fish & chip shop outside the ground that's now called Graveley's but back in the day it was known as Elland Road Fisheries. I was in there with one of the mates after the match, that ended in a draw, when a large group of Sunderland fans were walking past on their way back to the coaches. On seeing us as Leeds fans they decided that they were going to rush the shop and give us a kicking. However, there were that many of them trying to get through the door at the same time that they kind of got stuck for a split second with several of them falling on the floor. The mate and me defended ourselves by chucking the plastic salt & vinegar bottles at them along with the mates gravy & chips. The coppers were quickly on the scene but not before one of the old lasses that was working behind the counter had thrown a full bowl of wet batter over the Sunderland fans. In the confusion the mate and me managed to jump over the counter, into a back room and made our getaway into the back street through a fire exit door. The entire episode was more like something from Laurel & Hardy rather than the Football Factory.
Im kind of agreeing that casual wear didn't start until the music scene of the early 80s...Pringles, Lacoste, Kappa, etc...even Burberry was later... prior to 82, it was different and Donkey Jackets, Bomber Jackets, Scarfs and all that were the clothes of the day. Even the term 'Casuals' is much more modern. Its great to hear stories about our past adventures from big clubs and small ones too like Sunderland...every team had a mob that needs respect, just dont get carried away...
@@LeggieGlasgow Yeah no direspect to Sunderland...they are a decent club with great support...rivalry aside, as big as Newcastle or Boro...great fans for all three clubs...maybe tagging them as small is incorrect, maybe i should have termed it smaller...we are talking about the late 70s and early 80s...football and support was different then. Sunderlands Roker Park was a challenge and my only visit with Chelsea was to the Milk Cup Semi Final 1985...it was carnage...dont get me wrong im sure both sides had great results and everyones viewpoint is different...as was the way in them days incidents happened all over...the atmosphere for the biggest game both teams had experienced in a while was incredible and extremely hostile...on the next video a Sunderland fan says that Chelsea were 'done' at Bishop Aukland, in an amusement arcade? I want to hear those stories too...I mean i doubt that any of the major players were there but that what makes it more real, the proper stories...for 10 years i could tell a story of every ground away and there being 'trouble' its just a fact, but i can only tell a few instances where i was involved directly...i have some great stories but they are just snapshots of my viewpoint...anyway back to Sunderland and their so called Casuals...this is the real point not the size of the club...anyone actually know the history of your Seaburn Casuals? its interesting because as i wrote in my comment above the casual scene really started with golfing and sporting wear clothes especially the Pringle Jumper back in the early 80s and was a Southern thing to start...The jumpers were pretty expensive and times were different then...It developed into other brands...players stopped wearing shirts to be identified and usually had tiny little badges on them showing their club badge...they were normally on a roll neck jumper worn under a golfing jumper or on the lapel of a leather jacket...smart clothes meant you didnt get stopped by the old bill...Northern teams just didnt have casuals then although they may later have adopted this...Even earlier there was a beginning of a culture after the film A Clockwork Orange was released...this film was banned but fans started dressing smart and using umbrellas...not a casual culture but it was definitely something and hooliganism became more rife...After that we had more skinheads...so there is definite timeline for casual culture...my first game was in 1980 and my second game saw Chelsea beat Newcastle 6-0...Newcastle didnt bring many (video available on you tube)...but outside after the game was pretty scary as hundreds of skinheads loitered around outside waiting for the away fans to come out...I would have been described as a scarf then...the full works, Shirt, scarf and hat lol...but things developed and changed...sp what was it like at Sunderland...when did the casual scene start there? In 1985 all i saw was the old fashioned fans, donkey jackets and shirts with the stereotypical packet of fags up the shirt sleeve...so i say again no disrespect to any sunderland fan, you are as good as any other players and all viewpoints are valid...our memories of the time are priceless and id love to be young again and go rampaging through the streets...keep your stories coming and respect to all
The casual theme started about the late 80s, my era was late 70s, Harrington jackets, Dr martens etc, donkey jackets in the winter,i was a ex coal miner So we got these for nothing, you're right when you noticed a lot of them about as majority of fans were miners and shipyard worker's,i wouldn't change them days for now the old terraces had more comraderer.adios amigo
@@singingbuddhakaraoke Been all over following Rangers was in Dublin in 84 ,the big riot at hampden 80 with Celtic .Was at Stamford bridge for the relegation play off with boro mid 80s loads of Rangers fans in the shed.We had a night out in a Glasgow club in 86 with around 50 Chelsea for new years they were all main players in that firm.Had a good connection with Chelsea fans many came up for Rangers games.From the 80s till the present day the friendship exists though many english mobs have came to Glasgow and we've got on fine.Even more so with England's national side as we no longer have much interest in Scotlands national side ,well many don't can't say they all do lol.
no casuals then or bushwhackers come to that travelled down on fatfield bus JT +co sherburn boys PW etc.remember being kept in till around 6-30 then escort of sorts back to NC up to LB not many on Fatfield bus returning ap norf.Mllwall geezer in ground with CT razor nearly soiled mesell 79 was different to 74 in that there was now fencing puts years on ya wouldnt swap those times for the world
Before you go on about Millwall fans away ask yourself why there ain't alot might have something to do with the fact it Don't take alot to cause chaos and the old bill know it hated but rated number one and you know it
1970's - 80's were Sunderland Vaux Boys , as i remember a firm of Blokes in Donkey N.C.B. & Shipyard jackets ,wearing Steel toe caps , the proper type with steel on the outside.
I remember when Sunderland came to Leeds back in 1977. There's a fish & chip shop outside the ground that's now called Graveley's but back in the day it was known as Elland Road Fisheries. I was in there with one of the mates after the match, that ended in a draw, when a large group of Sunderland fans were walking past on their way back to the coaches. On seeing us as Leeds fans they decided that they were going to rush the shop and give us a kicking. However, there were that many of them trying to get through the door at the same time that they kind of got stuck for a split second with several of them falling on the floor. The mate and me defended ourselves by chucking the plastic salt & vinegar bottles at them along with the mates gravy & chips. The coppers were quickly on the scene but not before one of the old lasses that was working behind the counter had thrown a full bowl of wet batter over the Sunderland fans. In the confusion the mate and me managed to jump over the counter, into a back room and made our getaway into the back street through a fire exit door. The entire episode was more like something from Laurel & Hardy rather than the Football Factory.
Got battered again them mackems
@ShaunFrere1 lovely fish and chips from there mate then straight in the Peacock for a couple B4 the match.#MOT
Cracking account of the era, the music was a massive part of the scene back then, proper old school shenanigans great day’s great times 💪
@raymondstirrup8902 Best days of my life mate but if my son was involved in all that today I. would be horrified.
You never hear anything of millwall unless it involved being in and around London. Did their firm travel further then 20 miles away
@@GaryWoodhouse-uw1wc you reckon?? Utter Shite. 🦁☠️
Yes they are traveled I'm Pompey you dopey northrrers were pathitic🎉
Im kind of agreeing that casual wear didn't start until the music scene of the early 80s...Pringles, Lacoste, Kappa, etc...even Burberry was later... prior to 82, it was different and Donkey Jackets, Bomber Jackets, Scarfs and all that were the clothes of the day. Even the term 'Casuals' is much more modern. Its great to hear stories about our past adventures from big clubs and small ones too like Sunderland...every team had a mob that needs respect, just dont get carried away...
Ouch ! Sunderland small lol they are a sleeping giant as big as any other north east outfit mate.
@@LeggieGlasgow Yeah no direspect to Sunderland...they are a decent club with great support...rivalry aside, as big as Newcastle or Boro...great fans for all three clubs...maybe tagging them as small is incorrect, maybe i should have termed it smaller...we are talking about the late 70s and early 80s...football and support was different then. Sunderlands Roker Park was a challenge and my only visit with Chelsea was to the Milk Cup Semi Final 1985...it was carnage...dont get me wrong im sure both sides had great results and everyones viewpoint is different...as was the way in them days incidents happened all over...the atmosphere for the biggest game both teams had experienced in a while was incredible and extremely hostile...on the next video a Sunderland fan says that Chelsea were 'done' at Bishop Aukland, in an amusement arcade? I want to hear those stories too...I mean i doubt that any of the major players were there but that what makes it more real, the proper stories...for 10 years i could tell a story of every ground away and there being 'trouble' its just a fact, but i can only tell a few instances where i was involved directly...i have some great stories but they are just snapshots of my viewpoint...anyway back to Sunderland and their so called Casuals...this is the real point not the size of the club...anyone actually know the history of your Seaburn Casuals? its interesting because as i wrote in my comment above the casual scene really started with golfing and sporting wear clothes especially the Pringle Jumper back in the early 80s and was a Southern thing to start...The jumpers were pretty expensive and times were different then...It developed into other brands...players stopped wearing shirts to be identified and usually had tiny little badges on them showing their club badge...they were normally on a roll neck jumper worn under a golfing jumper or on the lapel of a leather jacket...smart clothes meant you didnt get stopped by the old bill...Northern teams just didnt have casuals then although they may later have adopted this...Even earlier there was a beginning of a culture after the film A Clockwork Orange was released...this film was banned but fans started dressing smart and using umbrellas...not a casual culture but it was definitely something and hooliganism became more rife...After that we had more skinheads...so there is definite timeline for casual culture...my first game was in 1980 and my second game saw Chelsea beat Newcastle 6-0...Newcastle didnt bring many (video available on you tube)...but outside after the game was pretty scary as hundreds of skinheads loitered around outside waiting for the away fans to come out...I would have been described as a scarf then...the full works, Shirt, scarf and hat lol...but things developed and changed...sp what was it like at Sunderland...when did the casual scene start there? In 1985 all i saw was the old fashioned fans, donkey jackets and shirts with the stereotypical packet of fags up the shirt sleeve...so i say again no disrespect to any sunderland fan, you are as good as any other players and all viewpoints are valid...our memories of the time are priceless and id love to be young again and go rampaging through the streets...keep your stories coming and respect to all
The casual theme started about the late 80s, my era was late 70s, Harrington jackets, Dr martens etc, donkey jackets in the winter,i was a ex coal miner So we got these for nothing, you're right when you noticed a lot of them about as majority of fans were miners and shipyard worker's,i wouldn't change them days for now the old terraces had more comraderer.adios amigo
@GaryWoodhouse-uw1wc respect always
@@singingbuddhakaraoke Been all over following Rangers was in Dublin in 84 ,the big riot at hampden 80 with Celtic .Was at Stamford bridge for the relegation play off with boro mid 80s loads of Rangers fans in the shed.We had a night out in a Glasgow club in 86 with around 50 Chelsea for new years they were all main players in that firm.Had a good connection with Chelsea fans many came up for Rangers games.From the 80s till the present day the friendship exists though many english mobs have came to Glasgow and we've got on fine.Even more so with England's national side as we no longer have much interest in Scotlands national side ,well many don't can't say they all do lol.
Least they showed not like that lot Newcastle who’s never showed with a firm .
In English?
@Gumbo1970 too busy with their shirts off .
Gremlins self proclaimed general is a proper wrong un with his pal touchy Hutchy
Did you have any luck at roker park
New cross is overground not underground (tube)
It was tube in those days.
Who's Barry the Frog.😂
I dunno but he's hopping mad
@@theferret390 makes chocolate bars.
no casuals then or bushwhackers come to that travelled down on fatfield bus JT +co sherburn boys PW etc.remember being kept in till around 6-30 then escort of sorts back to NC up to LB not many on Fatfield bus returning ap norf.Mllwall geezer in ground with CT razor nearly soiled mesell 79 was different to 74 in that there was now fencing puts years on ya wouldnt swap those times for the world
@georges5840 could you have got anymore acronyms in that comment lad lol.#MOT
Before you go on about Millwall fans away ask yourself why there ain't alot might have something to do with the fact it Don't take alot to cause chaos and the old bill know it hated but rated number one and you know it
I went to Eastville in about 83/84 with Kings Lynn.Lynn took two mobs there apparently, that generation were pretty mad tbf.
Was that in the F.A Cup? I seem to remember King's Lynn getting some media spotllght because of it.
@marksims3904 er yeah.Lynn should've won as well.And Lynn done rovers 💚💛🇬🇧
@@jamiewilson5679 Yellow and green, are you a Norwich fan? Just asking as I'm a VERY happy Ipswich fan tonight.
@@jamiewilson5679 that never happened, at full time, the tote end boys smashed anyone with a Norfolk accent.
@Busybee65 hahahahahaha,absolute bollocks 😂😂😂
❤❤Nottingham Forest F.C ❤
Mugs
Cloughie is magic, rest in peace great man.
@GaryWoodhouse-uw1wc thanks man!!!
Gremlins self proclaimed general is a proper wrong un with his pal touchy Hutchy