When Was Plate Armor REALLY Invented? The Origins

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  • The aswer to the question When was Plate armour really invented? Might really surprice you.Was it invented In the Middle Ages? In the Classical Era? In the Iron Age? Let's find out.
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    An armour (spelled armor in the US) is a protective covering that is used to prevent damage from being inflicted to an object, individual, or vehicle by weapons or projectiles, usually during combat, or from damage caused by a potentially dangerous environment or action.
    The word "armour" began to appear in the Middle Ages as a derivative of Old French. It is dated from 1297 as a "mail, defensive covering worn in combat". The word originates from the Old French armure, itself derived from the Latin armatura meaning "arms and/or equipment", with the root armare meaning "arms or gear".
    Armour has been used throughout recorded history. It has been made from a variety of materials, beginning with rudimentary leather protection and evolving through mail and metal plate into today's modern composites.
    Significant factors in the development of armour include the economic and technological necessities of its production. For instance, plate armour first appeared in Medieval Europe when water-powered trip hammers made the formation of plates faster and cheaper.
    Well-known armour types in European history include the lorica hamata, lorica squamata, and the lorica segmentata of the Roman legions, the mail hauberk of the early medieval age, and the full steel plate harness worn by later medieval and renaissance knights, and breast and back plates worn by heavy cavalry in several European countries until the first year of World War I (1914-15). The samurai warriors of feudal Japan utilised many types of armour for hundreds of years up to the 19th century.
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Комментарии • 515

  • @metatronyt
    @metatronyt  5 лет назад +288

    Hi Noble Ones! I decided to re-upload this video because I hadn't noticed that in one of the
    pictures I used to depict primitive humans there were scenes of nudity and intercourse.
    Although it was just a matter of small and not particularly evident drawings, considering
    my videos are often used in school, and shown to students, including young kids, I decided
    to re-upload it as to make my video available for teachers around the world.
    I apologise for the inconvenience and I will reply to all those who had commented the original video. Keep being noble, noble ones :)
    Metatron

    • @Xaiff
      @Xaiff 5 лет назад +9

      Greatly appreciated. 😁🙏

    • @davidsnoek8686
      @davidsnoek8686 5 лет назад +6

      YW this shows how carefull and dadicated you are!

    • @PremiumBlank
      @PremiumBlank 5 лет назад +6

      Ah, the most Noble of noble ones.

    • @silkwesir1444
      @silkwesir1444 5 лет назад +20

      I guess "making it available for teachers" was a euphemism for "sparing those teacher a barrage of laughter and distraction from the topic at hand"...

    • @rameyzamora1018
      @rameyzamora1018 5 лет назад +19

      @William Blackwood There's the threat of having YT pull one's post for nudity of any kind that also influences content. Raf's being cautious.

  • @generalgrievous5177
    @generalgrievous5177 5 лет назад +355

    The one dislike was from a light armored rogue

    • @oisnowy5368
      @oisnowy5368 5 лет назад +47

      He probably had leather armour and carried his sword on his back.

    • @alvaroasi
      @alvaroasi 5 лет назад +13

      The seven dislike came are Dothraki from GOT, je je je, ha, ha, ha, lol, lol, lol, they can´t fight against knights

    • @generalgrievous5177
      @generalgrievous5177 5 лет назад +4

      @@oisnowy5368 Omg, yes XDDDD

    • @Robert_Emu_Lee
      @Robert_Emu_Lee 5 лет назад +16

      oiSnowy Also his leather armour was studded

    • @tigershark8867
      @tigershark8867 5 лет назад +9

      @@oisnowy5368 That sword was a Katana.

  • @rafaelrodrigues7971
    @rafaelrodrigues7971 5 лет назад +170

    Metatron talk about the less prestigious peoples of ancient Italy, their culture, warfare, and panoply. Like Samanites, Etruscans, Greek colonies and city states, tribes, etc.

    • @Aladdin_en_becane
      @Aladdin_en_becane 5 лет назад +5

      The samnites would be interesting!

    • @sagagis
      @sagagis 5 лет назад +3

      he could talk about wars like Samnite Wars and Latin War

    • @arx3516
      @arx3516 5 лет назад +2

      @@Aladdin_en_becane You really don't want to know what the Samnites did to the Romans at the Caudine forks!

    • @FrogWalrus
      @FrogWalrus 5 лет назад +14

      The Etruscans “less prestigious” than whom? The Romans? Sure. The Etruscans were a pretty damn advanced and wealthy civilization.

    • @Aladdin_en_becane
      @Aladdin_en_becane 5 лет назад +1

      @@arx3516 of course i do. Looking it up right now haha

  • @DomPatek
    @DomPatek 5 лет назад +37

    1969 Paul McCartney talking about history, weapons and armour. Pretty cool.

  • @johnsoutherland3459
    @johnsoutherland3459 5 лет назад +72

    It's not a far stretch. We know before metalworking was invented, natural materials like ivory or wood panels were linked together to create a segmented armor. It's not a far stretch to infer these techniques would be translated to metal versions fairly quickly.

  • @alceon1
    @alceon1 5 лет назад +23

    About tin needed to be used for bronze, there's also the option for arsenic which is more commonly found with copper. It makes for a very hard metal, and also helps with pouring copper into molds. I've been researching the copper age for a couple month and am very happy one of my favorite content creators is shedding light on such a fascinating age. Good work on the video by the way👍

  • @ericlanglois9194
    @ericlanglois9194 5 лет назад +101

    I subscribe to the theory that the first plate armors would have been made of wooden "plates". The problem is that something like that would be impossible to prove since any wood from pre-copper age civilizations would have long since disintegrated. It makes logical sense to me since even before the advent of metal working, protecting yourself from harm would always have been important for survival. Seeing how much it takes to cut down a large tree would be all the evidence early humans would have needed to think to themselves "If I cover myself with this stuff, stone spear heads and shots from slings would have a hard time hurting me."
    Just my thoughts.

    • @draconianwarking
      @draconianwarking 5 лет назад +18

      There are indeed instances of wood armour with visors with the haida tribe in north west British Columbia
      i.pinimg.com/originals/0e/79/3e/0e793e5ce851a6be0a972757cb327e21.jpg
      www.historymuseum.ca/cmc/exhibitions/aborig/haida/images/havwa02b.jpg

    • @jamoecw
      @jamoecw 5 лет назад +9

      while I agree with your logic, I am pretty sure he narrowed it to metal plate armor. of course this was not said however.

    • @jamoecw
      @jamoecw 5 лет назад +20

      also there are references to Chinese using tortoise shells to make armor, so it doesn't have to be wood.

    • @Olav_Hansen
      @Olav_Hansen 5 лет назад +10

      @@jamoecw so skyrim's dragonbone armor could have been a thing

    • @jamoecw
      @jamoecw 5 лет назад +9

      @@Olav_Hansen maybe not the exact design, but yes bone was used in some old armor designs.

  • @pauliusUwU
    @pauliusUwU 5 лет назад +111

    Awesome touch with the dark souls music.

    • @metatronyt
      @metatronyt  5 лет назад +29

      I LOVE that music, it just blends perfectly with the full plate armour of the Late Medieval Knights!

    • @zeroqp
      @zeroqp 5 лет назад +5

      @@metatronyt you should mention that music in the description

    • @lucifermorningstar181
      @lucifermorningstar181 5 лет назад +1

      Why yes i watch metatorn what gave it away?

    • @pauliusUwU
      @pauliusUwU 5 лет назад +2

      I also join the brotherhood of steel in every fallout game.

  • @mrskullbeard7508
    @mrskullbeard7508 5 лет назад +129

    Damnit, that DS3 music at the end made me dodge roll out of my chair. Give a Knight a warning first plz

  • @claudiostudios9002
    @claudiostudios9002 Год назад +2

    Coming back to a old video of yours hits really different…

  • @sevenproxies4255
    @sevenproxies4255 5 лет назад +10

    That bronze punch dagger is so beautiful!
    I like to collect punch daggers so I have quite the soft spot for them.
    The most effective, combat oriented dagger in my view.

  • @mithrawnudo2152
    @mithrawnudo2152 5 лет назад +4

    I've been attempting to put together a homebrew D&D campaign set in late Bronze Age Greece. Learning that the Dendra armor and those huge tower shields existed was mind blowing.
    It also happens to make a very easy conversion of typical medieval armor stats to equipment used at the tine.

    • @jon-paulfilkins7820
      @jon-paulfilkins7820 5 лет назад +1

      If you get the chance, some of the Runquest/Glorantha setting material might be worth you taking a look at, earlier articles had its setting as a more bronze age setting with iorn just starting to appear in some cultures.

    • @mithrawnudo2152
      @mithrawnudo2152 5 лет назад

      @@jon-paulfilkins7820 thanks, I will have you give that a look.

  • @laughingdaffodils5450
    @laughingdaffodils5450 5 лет назад +9

    Of course the answer is that it was invented in the early bronze age, if not even before, and the Myrmidons wore some relatively advanced examples. But it was very expensive, and the bronze age collapse came, and it mostly went away. It came back later, and was improved. Yeah, that's what you said, you got this, great video as usual fratello Metatron.

  • @Sonny13_
    @Sonny13_ 5 лет назад +19

    When Metraton teaches more history in a superior way over Ivy league history professors. 10/10

  • @jon-paulfilkins7820
    @jon-paulfilkins7820 5 лет назад +14

    One theory is that Achillies alleged invulnerability may have been down to him wearing a suit of armour like the Agean Bell armour you showed. With Greaves and a shield, only the back of his legs would have been anything that could be called 'vulnerable'.
    It is always a balance between flexibility and protection. I suspect the long use of chain and its popularity for such a long time, compared to plate, is that it is flexible, can be worn for very extended periods of time (It is NOT a solid mass when worn so your skin can breath, well, depending on what padding you are using), and induvidual links can be easily replaced/repaired by an apprentice smith if needs be and not much in the way of 'fitting' is needed. It is like despite there being more protective helmets, many still used the salet and kettle helm, and for so long. They are just more suitable for campaigning (which usualy involves a tiny amount of combat and a lot of other tasks/hanging around).

    • @applepiesapricots3109
      @applepiesapricots3109 5 лет назад +2

      As far as I know that isn't even a theory, it's outright stated in the Iliad that his armor and helmet were so protective and covering that Patroclus couldn't be distinguished from Achillies when wearing it.

    • @CoffeeSnep
      @CoffeeSnep 5 лет назад

      I agree that maille is much easier to clean and maintain than plate armor, but I certainly wouldn't say that there is a linear spectrum between flexibility and protection. My reason is that even in plate armor, flexibility is almost completely unhindered, and that because it has more separately secured parts, it has a better balance of weight on the body than maille. I think maille armor was around for so long because it is much easier to make and repair, and requires much less sophisticated equipment to do so. In addition, plate armor needs to be custom fit, and so an armored doesn't just need to be a master at shaping metal, but also needs a detailed knowledge of how the body works and moves to avoid making small mistakes which cause big problems. Maille has much more leniency in this regard.
      In the late 14th and 15th centuries, even lower income soldiers who couldn't afford plate armor had for the most part stopped wearing maille by itself and rather chose to wore brigandines and other similar segmented armors supplemented by maille. I believe this is because of the smaller, more uniform plates being easier to mass produce and fit to the body, like with the lorica segmentata from before. As for the choice of helm, I believe open faced helms were still popular due to a normal soldier having more tasks to accomplish, as well as the face not being as much of a target when other parts of the body also aren't completely armored as they were in the case of wealthy men at arms and knights.
      One last thing: even if maille itself allows more heat to escape than plate does, it can still be very hot, especially in combat. This is less to the maille itself and more to the padding. I can tell you from my own experience that even in a pleasant temperature, you will become covered with sweat even from a half hour of combat training while wearing a gambeson. Interestingly though, after you've sweat so much, it becomes bearable, and I think this applies to other armors as well. It's kind of a gross equilibrium between heat and sweat.

    • @puckerings
      @puckerings 5 лет назад

      Another theory is that Achilles is a completely fictional character.

    • @puckerings
      @puckerings 5 лет назад

      @jocaguz18 LOL. Your argument is created from nothing, so there's that.

    • @puckerings
      @puckerings 5 лет назад

      @jocaguz18 It is, yes, because it's untrue and therefore not based on anything. If you believe it is true, then demonstrate its truth.

  • @ontheedgeofshadow2790
    @ontheedgeofshadow2790 5 лет назад +3

    Thanks mate, I've literally been saying this exact thing for years.. armor evolved from jewlery, and body armor in the form of plate or other protective garments are FAR older than most people think

  • @elfornicador11
    @elfornicador11 5 лет назад

    Wow mate, you are getting it into another level. The writing, the pauses, the phrases, the edditing... you start to make me think about Unknown5 and retro ahoy.

  • @ShuajoX
    @ShuajoX 5 лет назад +27

    Makes me wonder how old barding (horse armor) is. Fantastic video as always, great work!

    • @JustGrowingUp84
      @JustGrowingUp84 5 лет назад +7

      Well, the Persians had it on their cataphracts, so at least 2500 years old...

    • @neniAAinen
      @neniAAinen 5 лет назад +10

      @@JustGrowingUp84much older, barding predates battlefield cavalry.
      Chariot horses.

    • @JustGrowingUp84
      @JustGrowingUp84 5 лет назад +1

      @@neniAAinen Damn, I forgot about that. Good point.

    • @NoOnesBCE
      @NoOnesBCE 5 лет назад

      2006

  • @zebedeetotty
    @zebedeetotty 5 лет назад +1

    Thanks for making this video Metatron, i have often seen the Dendra armour and other mycenaean plate armors come up while im browsing the net but i was never able to find a good video discussing them, well until now that is, thanks for covering the topics everybody else seems to neglect for no good reason

  • @ericconnor8251
    @ericconnor8251 5 лет назад +2

    Great video, Metatron! You definitely spread your wings through the customized holes of your suit of plate armor. Goddamn it sure feels good to be a noble one. Plate armor was arguably even as old as the Bronze Age, not just the Iron Age, considering some of the armor varieties worn by the Mycenaean Greeks. You did a great job covering that, the Dendra panoply!

  • @crozraven
    @crozraven 5 лет назад +39

    Hi commenting again here requesting about linen armor history & mystery.

    • @metatronyt
      @metatronyt  5 лет назад +29

      Linen is very interesting. I think as soon as I get my hands on a linothorax I will make a dedicated video about it

    • @edi9892
      @edi9892 5 лет назад +3

      @@metatronyt Thank you!

    • @edi9892
      @edi9892 5 лет назад

      @Cegesh I´m not sure, but he could mean that we don´t know how excactly it was made and depending on this, how well it actually protected. You can in fact make armour like this, that would even stop some bullets!

    • @Intranetusa
      @Intranetusa 5 лет назад

      Lindybeiege and others have videos on linothroax if you want to watch videos about them.

    • @Intranetusa
      @Intranetusa 5 лет назад

      @@edi9892 Linothroax probably can't stop bullets (not even Renaissance era bullets) unless the bullet came from a very weak firearm and the linothroax were made impractically thick and heavy. The typical linothorax used by ancient Macedonians couldn't stop arrows from stronger bows, as Alexander of Macedon (typically portrayed in linothorax armor) was wounded by an arrow, which penetrated his armor and went into his lungs.

  • @MeUngaBungaButYouAreWorst
    @MeUngaBungaButYouAreWorst 5 лет назад +12

    Dark soul ending perfect!! I love how you explain things love from italy

  • @sadtoast6122
    @sadtoast6122 5 лет назад +6

    6:11 can u imagine that thing today? That's twice the size of a normal elephant!!!

  • @stgibbs86
    @stgibbs86 3 года назад +1

    Damn metatron, that showcase of armour with the choir singing in the background was awesome.

  • @paleposter
    @paleposter 5 лет назад +41

    “First save the brain, then let it expand.”

    • @metatronyt
      @metatronyt  5 лет назад +32

      Then feed It with pasta

    • @ardianbardhaj8583
      @ardianbardhaj8583 5 лет назад +7

      @Metatron then conquer the mediterranian and call it the Roman empire. My god it all makes sense now.

  • @urzmontst.george6314
    @urzmontst.george6314 10 месяцев назад

    Thank you for this channel. History is important and you are doing good work.

  • @kosmodomos
    @kosmodomos 5 лет назад

    You are an inspiration to me and many others!
    I've been with this channel for almost 4 years
    and wish nothing but great things for you, sir!

  • @trooperrcb7991
    @trooperrcb7991 5 лет назад

    Hey Met,
    Congratulations for your channel! Big fun here!
    A question for you😎
    Dropped the same question to Matt and Skall but didn’t bother to answer. I hope you do.
    Under the following circumstances:
    Assume that you will be teleported into an area that you’ll have to participate into a “Hunger Games” scenario death battle.
    Weapons used by everyone are any type of knives, swords, spears, blunts and pole arms.
    There will be no projectile weapons like bows, crossbows etc.
    Everyone else participating except you, will be distributed randomly historical armor sets, from bronze age up to full plate armors. They also might or might not hold any type of shields randomly.
    Any other participant is starting by himself but there are no rules forbidding team ups, except you off course. You have to solo the game. So you might be against more than one versus one.
    After eliminating an opponent, you cannot loot his armor or shield and use it for your own.
    Last restriction is, you have to choose one sword.
    Which sword would it be and and why?
    Thanks Met

  • @seanpoore2428
    @seanpoore2428 2 года назад +2

    Well now I need to see someone make a medieval style full plate harness (visored helm, pauldrons, articulated gauntlets, etc) entirely out of bronze

  • @danyal6181
    @danyal6181 5 лет назад +1

    You're editing is getting pretty good

  • @Catobleppa
    @Catobleppa 5 лет назад +4

    At 6:55 we can see one of the earliest pizza cutters, amazing

  • @leel6652
    @leel6652 5 лет назад +16

    Clearly, advanced plate armor required great skill and labor to produce. Do you know any of the techniques they used to made fluted, plate armor?

    • @danielcrawford7315
      @danielcrawford7315 5 лет назад +9

      Hand held fullering tools over bottom swages , riffing swedge being metal to start the process of setting up the fullers, then wood bottom swedges to refine the fullers and reduce hammer marks, then lastly I think in the best examples final finish on the fullers would have been done on fire hardened heavy oils leathers in wood blocks to blend out hammer marks.
      Though not common there were forms of sanding cloths, but only the most wealthy of them could afford the best treatments on there armour. Rounded plates take alot of time to make. Multiply the time by 15 or 20 for the fluted stuff.

  • @lonewanderer3603
    @lonewanderer3603 5 лет назад

    Content and production quality are getting better all the time. Thanks for your hard work.

  • @frankneugebauer6455
    @frankneugebauer6455 5 лет назад +9

    It is all about the definition. When is a breastplate called plate armor? Before the hamata became common, the romans used a quadratic iron plate hold by leather stripes to protect their breast partially. During the punic wars, such armor was still very common. So we can assume, that such quadratic breastplates made from copper are as old as smithing copper itself.
    turningpointsoftheancientworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/e3520412848dbb351707b960690c9a38.jpg

    • @neniAAinen
      @neniAAinen 5 лет назад +4

      There is a better term for these plates. Mirror.

    • @xluca1701
      @xluca1701 5 лет назад

      DU guckst Metatron? :0

    • @frankneugebauer6455
      @frankneugebauer6455 5 лет назад +1

      @@xluca1701 Alles zum Thema römische Geschichte halt.

  • @FalloutZone
    @FalloutZone 5 лет назад

    Really enjoyed the video Meta!

  • @jonahruiz4101
    @jonahruiz4101 3 года назад +1

    Soldier: “I’m kinda tired of holding this shield”
    Armorer: “I gotchu fam”

  • @makisonoda7925
    @makisonoda7925 5 лет назад +1

    Love the video Metatron! I also completely agree with your idea that plate armor is far older than we give it credit to. Keep making more videos, they're awesome, historical, and informative!

    • @metatronyt
      @metatronyt  5 лет назад

      Thank you so much!

    • @makisonoda7925
      @makisonoda7925 5 лет назад

      @@metatronyt
      You are very welcome. I love the videos you put out, and I appreciate the enthusiasm, respect , and research you put into your videos and old world history overall. I respect that and how informative it is. I myself am an avid student of history and it's impact on us today. Your drive is very inspiring and influential in its own right.

  • @Zanemob
    @Zanemob 5 лет назад +2

    Thank you for the Dark Souls 3 menu theme! Always brings tears to my eyes...

  • @FedericoMalagutti
    @FedericoMalagutti 5 лет назад

    Really, really, good video. Good analysis, well explained!

  • @baldrickthedungspreader3107
    @baldrickthedungspreader3107 5 лет назад +1

    You should do a video on the experimental armour of ww1, I know modern warfare isn’t your main focus but it’ll be interesting to see you cover all those strange helmet designs that look like medieval throwbacks in an age with high explosives and fully automatic machine guns. You could even argue that helmets of the modern day are loosely based off the sallet proving that helmets have never really been deemed obsolete unlike steel armour

  • @unitor699industries
    @unitor699industries 5 лет назад +4

    who ever owned the armor at 8:53 was probably some filty rich duke

    • @zach415
      @zach415 6 месяцев назад

      I think that was Henry VIII’s armor. So yeah, very rich guy

  • @piokul
    @piokul 5 лет назад

    Hello Metatron! I really enjoy your content! One thing has been bugging me for quite some time now, please don't take it wrong... Could you consider using less saturation of the colors in your videos? Maybe you edit on a laptop, but on a mobile screen they appear strongly oversaturated and that is a little offputting. Thank you! Other than that, please continue to make great videos!

  • @catgang
    @catgang 5 лет назад

    Great video, very informative. Didn't expect the sublime DS3 opening theme. That's a plus!

  • @patrikmeijer7437
    @patrikmeijer7437 5 лет назад

    Very interesting and well presented, thanks!

  • @calamusgladiofortior2814
    @calamusgladiofortior2814 5 лет назад +1

    I'm surprised you didn't mention Japanese tanko armour from the 4th and 5th centuries. The later style of tanko created a solid cuirass by riveting together smaller lames of iron - similar to the spangenhelm style of helmet construction in Europe. Cuirasses (do) made of bands riveted together appear again in Japan in the 16th century, after the introduction of firearms.

  • @fitzyakamcsyke
    @fitzyakamcsyke 5 лет назад +1

    I love your content man, it is excellent food for thought that plate is a much older invention.

  • @petetenerife5859
    @petetenerife5859 5 лет назад +1

    I've always been fascinated by the idea that even though our prehistory ancestors may have used stone tools, they may have understood the basic concepts of civilization with towns and cities. Unfortunately the evidence could not last long enough to be seen. Love your work BTW, sir

    • @hrogarfyrninga3238
      @hrogarfyrninga3238 5 лет назад

      Just look at Çatalhöyük in Turkey, people managed to live in fairly large settlements long before any metals were used.

  • @johnshepard8387
    @johnshepard8387 5 лет назад

    Very interesting video ! I LOVE the ending with full plate armors and Dark Souls music, so epic !

  • @KenzieScarlett
    @KenzieScarlett 5 лет назад

    Loved the video, mio caro! ❤️ thought it was super interesting!

  • @robertsilvermyst7325
    @robertsilvermyst7325 5 лет назад +10

    That Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night music at the end is a really nice touch.

    • @hazzmati
      @hazzmati 5 лет назад +2

      It’s dark souls 3

  • @janstenger6230
    @janstenger6230 5 лет назад +2

    Thank you for your notification, maybe a bit of the topic but I have to ask:
    A big movie about the 15th century with realistic armour and combat with all the amazing colors and the entourage with all the forgotten splendor don't want to see no dirty gray and black knights wooden castles and knitted mail in modern fantasy stories do you think a film like this will ever be made!? not disqualifying the efforts that where made in the past....

  • @ssgtdude1
    @ssgtdude1 5 лет назад

    Like many good teachers I love how you have a non-linear approach to history. So many students in history are taught that A happened then B happened. Which, makes history boring. This nonlinear approach shows that While A was happening B and C were happening elsewhere and sometimes we would go into C and then A again as we learned more advancements. Keep up the great work.

  • @pirateraider1708
    @pirateraider1708 5 лет назад +56

    Counting horseshoe crabs and stuff like that, I'm pretty sure plate armour predates the dinosaurs.

    • @muninrob
      @muninrob 5 лет назад +3

      by a longshot ;-)
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Placodermi

    • @aksmex2576
      @aksmex2576 5 лет назад +3

      there were dinasours and animals before them that had armor

  • @silas__3994
    @silas__3994 5 лет назад

    Awesome video! This is an interesting theory, and it's very well edited.

  • @flouisbailey
    @flouisbailey 5 лет назад +14

    Thanks again, information on horse protection please? from Bluegrass of Kentucky

    • @metatronyt
      @metatronyt  5 лет назад +4

      My pleasure and thanks for watching!

  • @manuellaslo1282
    @manuellaslo1282 5 лет назад

    again, a great video. very well done and informative, thank you for that.

  • @AurelioSon
    @AurelioSon 5 лет назад +14

    Can you make a review of the Italian movie epic "Il Primo Re"?

  • @AndiGe_
    @AndiGe_ 5 лет назад

    very interesting video! thx!

  • @Auloss
    @Auloss 5 лет назад +1

    8:02 that dark souls 3 music was ON POINT

  • @Cythil
    @Cythil 5 лет назад +8

    The form armour takes I feel is more a result of the weapons used and the fighting techniques used at the time. As well as social factors. If simple mail will do then you won't develop plate armour. Especially not if you do not have the economy to back it up. In the late mediaeval period and especially the renaissance you had just the right circumstances for plate armour to become the a important tool on the battlefield. The weapons at that point where more then capable to penetrate mail or padded clothing. Your leadership class of combatant often lead from the front. They had the economic means to procure expensive armour. It was a status factor. All these things play in to making plate armour common in that era. Firearms did not kill the plate armour. It made it necessary as it was the only thing close to bullet proof at the time. But warfare changes and so armour adapted. It would become less and less useful to have heavy armour when you could just have the firepower advantage in the future. Mass ranks with drilling. New combat techniques. And new style of leadership made it less and less important to have heavy armoured troops on the front.
    Of course today we actually do have armour again. Both in the terms of having heavy armoured tanks but also soldiers them selves carry more armour on person today then they did just 50 or a 100 years ago. At the start of World War I most soldiers did not even have a proper helmet. Not because they did not know how to make metal helmets, but because they did not estimate that shrapnel would be so dangerous. But by the end of the war they where already experimenting with developing plate armour again to counter the many new weapons in world war I. And of course the tank was actually developed during the war to deal with the battle conditions that emerged.
    So technology do play a part it not the driving factor to when armour is going to be adopted. Technology just enabled the adoption, but other factors are needed. And as Metatron points out the actual technology you need is something even a early bronze age civilization actually have access to. And that is why we see some early examples of this sort of armour to. In many way the better question to ask if why plate armour have not been more common then it has been though history. (of course that is just the flip side of the factors I mention before. But it may help folks gain perspective on the topic)
    Edit: Just refined grammar a bit fixing minor things. This is also one of the post that where in the old video not that it matter much.

    • @arx3516
      @arx3516 5 лет назад

      I don't think tanks count as armor, armor is part of the personal kit, and tanks need a crew of 4 people. A tank with a single person crew however would count as armor.

    • @Cythil
      @Cythil 5 лет назад +1

      @@arx3516 Yes I hold them a bit different. But the fact is that a modern day soldier do come equip with a lot more protection then they did just 50 years ago like a mentioned.
      There is not really much to compare to a tank back in history. At least not that was use in war. But a tank is a perfect example of how you need not just technology to make them but also a reason to do so as well as the right social structure. In theory one could have produced primitive tanks before World War I but the closest thing was the armoured car. It was a response to the war in the western front that the tank was made. Was mainly that and that I felt someone would sooner or later mention them anyway which was the reason I did.

  • @-smp-scientificmethodpersp838
    @-smp-scientificmethodpersp838 5 лет назад

    I love your science scenes with glasses and the outfit. Definitely the key to getting your doctorate. Seriously I love it lol keep these scenes

    • @metatronyt
      @metatronyt  5 лет назад +1

      I like them too they are fun to make

  • @c0nn3
    @c0nn3 5 лет назад +3

    Sometimes it would be cool if you could talk a bit slower. English isn't my first language and when you talk really fast, it gets hard to catch all of the information.
    Besides that, great video, thank you.

  • @fredazcarate4818
    @fredazcarate4818 2 года назад

    Thank you for producing another brilliant video on plate armor oh mighty Metatron.

    • @metatronyt
      @metatronyt  2 года назад

      My pleasure! Thank you for watching

  • @jvlivs777twitch6
    @jvlivs777twitch6 5 лет назад

    Thx for uploading this videos great teacher,hope that u have a wonderful day.

  • @Nyctophora
    @Nyctophora 5 лет назад

    You make an excellent point as usual :)

  • @timothyissler3815
    @timothyissler3815 5 лет назад

    How nice! He thanked me in the video!

  • @LilithLonelyHeart
    @LilithLonelyHeart 5 лет назад +1

    Next step in the evolution of armors: Power armor, we just need to figure out a power source that could output a lot of energy and be easy to make compact at the same time

    • @michaelwills1926
      @michaelwills1926 5 лет назад

      Maschinen krieger.

    • @LilithLonelyHeart
      @LilithLonelyHeart 5 лет назад

      well yeah not a tank but if it ever gets to the level of sci-fi power armors then it can endure as much damage as one, also not all power armors have built-in weapons, but most of them have capacity for such or storage for some hand-held weapons in some of their components

  • @derstoffausdemderjoghurtis
    @derstoffausdemderjoghurtis 5 лет назад

    The graph at 1:10 is really helpfull!

  • @reignorshine.
    @reignorshine. 5 лет назад

    Bellisimo!! Mr.Tron Bravo!!!

  • @myggdestroyer6485
    @myggdestroyer6485 5 лет назад +2

    Hi metatron i recently visited your Q&A however i dont think you got to see my question, i was wondering if you know about and have any opinion on Harukichi Shimo also known as he "Samurai of Fiume"
    Seeing as your an italian who studies Japan and he was a Japanese who studies Italy id think you'd be intrested in him

    • @metatronyt
      @metatronyt  5 лет назад +2

      I've never heard of him but I'll look into it :)

  • @0Zolrender0
    @0Zolrender0 5 лет назад

    Awesome video Metaron. It basicly affirmed what I already thought. I guess the only difference is what type of metal the plate is made of that differs. We knew the Greeks had a Bronze version of plate armour that you showed, but I guess it makes sense it could go back further. The only thing the 16th century knights had over the others was their armour was all high quailty steel, and interlocked and articulated.

  • @michaelwills1926
    @michaelwills1926 5 лет назад

    It continues to amaze how the artisans and armorers attained such beautiful symmetry with an unyielding medium such as iron and steel.

  • @JamesThomas-pj2lx
    @JamesThomas-pj2lx 5 лет назад +1

    LOL, I tend to watch your videos when I'm number twoing.... Great work!

  • @pittbullking87
    @pittbullking87 5 лет назад

    The Aztecs made armor out of quilted cotton soaked in salt brine. Apparently it provided adequate protection against obsidian tipped weapons. Native American tribes of the Pacific Northwest made armor out of small wooden plates sewn together and wore wooden helmets. The Hopewell Mound Builder Culture (100 BC to 500 AD) of Midwest North America made copper breastplates. However, I don't know if these copper breastplates were more for decoration, defense, or both.

  • @ddtoxic4423
    @ddtoxic4423 5 лет назад

    Medieval Plate armor always astonishes me. That detail that hard work ! Incredible!

  • @PhoenixPwnsAll
    @PhoenixPwnsAll 5 лет назад +1

    Considering how valuable a plate armor would be in the bronze age it would be very likely that it gets buried with the owner like that Mycenean plate, or reused until it breaks, the latter being more probable in more primitive societies. Interesting theory, but we should wait for findings to say for certain : )

  • @Damienx247
    @Damienx247 5 лет назад

    Imagine how the armors displayed at the end of video would have looked, had prior curators hadn't strip the paint off in order to fit the concept of "knight in shining armor."

  • @SHINOBIJACK
    @SHINOBIJACK 5 лет назад +11

    OWO is that DARK SOULS MUSIC, PRAISE THE SUN MY BOTHERS

  • @Intranetusa
    @Intranetusa 5 лет назад

    I was under the impression that the lorica musculata and muscle curiass were not made of iron/steel, but rather either made of 1) bronze or 2) molded and hardened rawhide or partially tanned leather.

  • @nooneofinterest234
    @nooneofinterest234 5 лет назад

    Metatron where did you get the Gladius that you were using while donning the Roman legionnaire suit?

  • @tyronewifestealer2385
    @tyronewifestealer2385 5 лет назад

    Would be cool if you did a video about your favourite cavalry unit from any point in history

  • @TheMartyrdoom
    @TheMartyrdoom 5 лет назад

    great video

  • @fimbul_
    @fimbul_ 5 лет назад +2

    I didn't realized the stuff at 7:44 was "problematic". YT really should bring back at least some historical and educational freedoms.
    At least I managed to watch the directors cut. 😜

    • @iapetusmccool
      @iapetusmccool 5 лет назад

      What was "problematic"?

    • @fimbul_
      @fimbul_ 5 лет назад

      @@iapetusmccool In the original upload was a gallery of pictures describing the human technological and social evolution.
      Some of the pictures show nudity and one or two depicted coitus.

  • @jordanrenkert4176
    @jordanrenkert4176 5 лет назад

    I love your costume changes

  • @dreammfyre
    @dreammfyre 5 лет назад +3

    Plate Armour: Origins. Coming fall 2019. Preorder now.

  • @dantebanducci235
    @dantebanducci235 5 лет назад

    Dat Dark Souls 3 soundtrack though...
    Great video, I’d never considered it being literally prehistoric before!

  • @overlorddante
    @overlorddante 5 лет назад +1

    6:11 wow, imagine fighting an animal whose tusks are twice the length of your entire body. And winning with a spear.

    • @lmaolmoo4147
      @lmaolmoo4147 4 года назад

      Honestly those people were probably like super humans compared to us. I'd imagine their physical condition was absolutely on point.

  • @YoBadMama
    @YoBadMama 5 лет назад +2

    6:26 Damn, Grug, you alright?

  • @KittyEvangeline
    @KittyEvangeline 5 лет назад

    Man, Metatron really loves that Dark Souls 3 intro theme.

  • @petrolicioussameer6945
    @petrolicioussameer6945 5 лет назад

    I love you content sir.
    I am a manufacturer of medieval products like for example- plate armour suit, shields, medieval helmets and chainmail items.
    I want to be a small part of your contents.
    I don't know how but i want to learn and expand my work.
    Thank you
    Regards
    Sameer Khalid

  • @RyllenKriel
    @RyllenKriel 5 лет назад

    Another great video but I have a lingering suspicion the Metatron is trying to see how many costumes he can wear in a single video at this point. He goes from a normal shirt to breastplate, kettle helm then lab coat and glasses. I was kind of hoping to see him hanging off the ceiling in a Spiderman outfit by the end of the episode!

  • @Ups_downs_life_funny
    @Ups_downs_life_funny 5 лет назад +3

    They should make a total war game or mod about the archike times of ancient mycenaean civilization

    • @thetreatment498
      @thetreatment498 5 лет назад +1

      I totaly agree! Maybe not specificaly the myceneans alone but all bronze age civilatations. And one of them would be the Myceneans.

    • @GrimFaceHunter
      @GrimFaceHunter 5 лет назад +1

      So we can finally have our our half circular towns that also serve as calendars on the Danube coast.

    • @Ups_downs_life_funny
      @Ups_downs_life_funny 5 лет назад

      @@thetreatment498 exactly Egypt, Hittites,The Middle East, and the Greeks/Mycenaeans

    • @thetreatment498
      @thetreatment498 5 лет назад

      @@Ups_downs_life_funny Actualy there is a mod about them for total war rome 2 but if i remember corectly it's not completed. Here is the link: steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=605089563

  • @nohbdy1122
    @nohbdy1122 5 лет назад +17

    So, to clarify, we've only found evidence of plate armor dating back to bronze age, but we speculate that it was a chalcolithic invention?

    • @sergiodiaz2725
      @sergiodiaz2725 5 лет назад +2

      It is not really that crazy when you think about it as we know that segmented pieces of wood were put together to wear for protection, so the jump from wood to metal is not that far a stretch when talking about segmented and very rudimentary armor. But I do have to agree, speculation in such cases is pointless.

  • @dzboccaccini
    @dzboccaccini 5 лет назад

    Sei un gran secchione ma ti voglio bene proprio per questo. Keep up the good work!

  • @christianbateman2
    @christianbateman2 5 лет назад

    That last minute of watching the grim faces of death was beautiful.

  • @PhyreI3ird
    @PhyreI3ird 5 лет назад

    Enjoyed the video, and excellent use of dark souls music! :D

  • @Tracer_Krieg
    @Tracer_Krieg 5 лет назад +10

    I present the Eurypterid Sea Scorpion of the Darriwilian stage of the Ordovician period 467.3 million years ago. The first true plate armored animal! (Though there is probably something even older than that somewhere...)

  • @terrorbilly3367
    @terrorbilly3367 5 лет назад

    some whould say that it takes away form the achievements of medieval men but i think it's a complement to medieval ages for finding something in past that worked and improving it more efficiently than the original creators

  • @andrewk.5575
    @andrewk.5575 5 лет назад

    At 7:59 text appears on the screen next to a suit of plate saying "Original Idea Raffaello Urbani"... just after he talks about the invention of plate armor going back to the Stone Age. It's confirmed guys, our favorite Sicilian RUclipsr really is God's angelic scribe, or at very least immortal.

  • @seisette
    @seisette 5 лет назад +1

    Man, barded horses are just beautiful