Great to see a shout out to Computer Sheds, Jim has amassed a collection of old computers beyond comprehension. I have had the pleasure of meeting him a couple of times. This collection needs to be an entire museum. You simply don't understand until you see it.
In the U.S. those are called deer whistles. (We have a lot of deer who like to cross roads.) No proof they work yet they are still sold decades after their introduction.
There definitely was a battle back in the day between ST and Amiga users. I got my Amiga in 89 (batman pack) and the ST was already established. I had friends who had both machines. And although i respected the ST you could see that even with ports, the amigas superior sound was being utilised, and graphical tweets were added. Then when the full use of the amiga were starting to be used the inevitable comparisons would start. The only come back ST owners would have is "yeah but it has midi" which a lot of them didnt even know what it was let alone use it. The fact is, these machines were bought for games and the amiga was better at them. But its worth remembering, the ST was always a cheaper more affordable machine. But the battles in my circles went from 89 to about 92. Funnily enough my ST friends were around my house to play games more than i was around theirs. Says it all really.
Don't forget that the ST's 68000 CPU was clocked a bit higher, meaning that it was generally a bit quicker with 3D polygonal games - such as Frontier Elite. However the difference was marginal at best.
@@Retrohertz and I respected the ST. It was the first 16 bit machine I saw. I remember my mate was playing xenon on it. The digitised programmers face saying "sector 1" blew me away at the time. So the memories for both machines are closely linked.
ST was not bought for gaming only nearly as often as Amiga. Especially in Germany it was seen more as a computer for small business, an alternative to Macintosh. Besides things like Cubase, Desktop Publishing was a big thing on the Atari thanks to Mega ST line, a dedicated laser printer and professional software like Calamus. There were hundreds of professional quality apps available for the ST ranging from managing a gym customers to CAD, 3D modelling to rather expensive research analysis software for engineers.
25:56 The ZX Spectrum was sold worldwide! Not only in the UK and most West European countries but also as the Timex Computer 2048 in Portugal, Poland and Chile, but also as the Timex Sinclair 2068 in the US and Argentina (most likely US stock after Timex' withdrawal from the US market), as the Microdigital TK90X and TK95 in Brazil, Czerweny CZ Spectrum in Argentina and Uruguay, the deciBells dB Spectrum+ in India and lots of clones in East Europe.
Fellow Australian here. I have never owned or used a Spectrum in my life, but I have ordered The Spectrum because I want to try it out, I'm eagerly awaiting its arrival and I'm excited about the full size Amiga product that RGL are developing, even though, again, I've had very little experience with the Amiga. I have used what I think was an A500 in the early 90s, but I don't remember very much about it.
I didn't get a chance to grab one of Taki's DC-10 clones from the first batch. Hoping to get one from the next batch. Sorry to Duncan for having to edit the long show but we're all happy to have more TWIR this week. 😁😁😁
The key on the Spectrum, like with the ZX81 and Atari 400 were never as bad back in the day as people say now retrospectively. You could code quite quickly on Sinclair keyboards because of the keyword shortcuts. Of course with TheSpectrum, you will probably be able to plug in a USB keyboard if you like.
Interestingly, not only the The Spectrum and the TheC64 and TheA500 and the Amiga Maxi are produced by Plaion for Retro Games but also the 2600+ and 7800+ and all peripherals are produced by Plaion, for Atari.
In 1985 Commodore was concentrating their sales effort for the Amiga on large corporations. The were not marketing it as a game/home machine. They thought they could compete with the PC in the same market. I worked in a major international bank IT department then and we had a few pre-launch Amigas lent to us for assessment. We played with them a bit but continued forward with PCs as we had already a large investment in software by then.
babylon 5 was produced using amiga for video editing and special effects. Disney used them for various theme park visuals, even as long as a decade after they went out of business. Amiga were awesome machines and were used in a surprising number of places. Real shame they went out of business, that machine was my favorite for the home market by a very large margin.
I'd like to see another run of the Atari 400 Mini, but as an 800XL Maxi with working keyboard - The 400 Mini killed off the Revive Machines 800XL, which I was hoping to get!
Good luck playing fast moving games such as Guardian II (Defender) on the rubber keys. It doesn't use cursors keys, which I use on usb keyboards for emulation. Another concern for me with the Speccy is diagonals on some joystick games. There's no news of joysticks uncluded and what the device will support. The C64 doesn't support a great amount of controllers, albeit the Amiga Mini had more controller options with firmware uogrades.
Can confirm what others have said, the deer whistles have been sold for decades in Michigan. Do they work? Well, who knows but I've seen loads of them on people's cars.
A cheep way to get homebrew on an ATARI 2600+ is to buy a "32 in 1 game cartridge" which works fine, and do the mod to take an Eprom that will switch between 16 4K games. Not exactly a FlashCard solution, but if you use an Eprom that can be erased it is a sort-of swappable solution.
The isn’t any evidence that the Shu Roo, or the conceptually related deer whistle, are effective at preventing vehicle strikes against the animals. Anecdotally, the only car I had a deer whistle set on was also the only one where I hit a deer.
Hearing the talk of manic miner and not being able to get past the first level, that's similar for me with Sonic 2 on the game gear, i have rarely ever gotten past the first zone on there. Playing the master system version, I'm able to since it's not cropped like it was when ported to the game gear.
Speaking as an American, the ST here outsold the Amiga until the 500 came out. The ST sales fade was slow. About a third of the ones I came across in person (so not counting buying online) were STEs which didn't come out till 1989. The Amiga didn't start getting better looking games than the ST till about a year after the 500 came out, and that pushed Amiga sales far past ST sales. The Amiga sales fade was fast here. VGA graphics on the PC started to become common in 1990, and that is what killed both the ST and the Amiga. By the time the 1200 came out the Amiga market in the US was almost dead. Of the Amigas I have come across at least 80% were 500s, 10% were 2000s, and the rest was all other models. In a perfect world the Atari and Commodore would have looked at the 1987 release of VGA on PC and Mac, and realized that they needed to compete.
@1:21:50 Um, yeah the used Jaguar cartridge market already has mental $$$ prices! Would like to see the opposite happen, and have a jag mini run games off usb.
There's no technical reason why a flashcart for the 2600+ & 7800+ can't be produced that has a menu but presents the selected game image as a single ROM. The principle is the same as Slot-2 flash carts that allow the Nintendo DS to play Gameboy Advance games natively.
@@ThisWeekinRetro The CPU must signal the cartridge's ROM chip over the address and chip enable lines and receive data back over the data lines. That is how ROM ICs work and surely 2-way by definition, or no? That not withstanding, Dave's example of the GX4000 multicart is an adequate alternative method.
@@ThisWeekinRetro It would be the same principle as is used with the gotek/openflops, have the menu on the cart itself, even if it is just a number being displayed, and the system itself only ever sees the image you want it to.
I have a MiSTer and computers capable of Spectrum emulation but I'm still getting a The Spectrum (as a Christmas present) for one specific reason: the keyboard! If you already have a real Spectrum I don't see the need but I don't and this will be the most reliable way to get one that gives that genuine keyboard feeling. I do have an Amiga 1200 so no real interest in getting a full size replication but I really, really hope they don't have it in the style of an A600! 😂 For the MiSTER Pi the first batch of 1000 sold out in 9 minutes!
Isn't the Amiga 500 just a bit bigger than the average full sized keyboard? I mean I thought it was around the size of the C64 bread box? Watching Retro Recipes that's the scale that comes across. So I don't think it will be that bad.
The 1980s lead platform being the Atari ST in a lot of cases caused nothing but worse games other than a few early 3D games where the slightly faster 68000 clock made a difference. Having played a lot of my childhood ST games on the Amiga recently, I'd rather not remember the ST sound. Maybe that is rewriting my personal gaming history. I guess without the ST the 16-bit market would have been too small to support ANY software development in the 1980s so we should be thankful! Team17 were coming!
The reason the The Spectrum isn't officially sold in the US is because of the game rating which is different from Europe. So they would have to get North American ratings for all 48 games.
Atari ST owners seem to be obsessed with Amiga sales much more than Amiga owners. Is it perhaps because Atari fans know that the Amiga is a true descendant of the Atari lineage and the ST was a list-minute rush job when Tramiel lost the Amiga to Commodore and Tramiel (and Atari fanboys) never got over it? They're maybe insecure that the ST is an Atari-in-name-only. The direct Atari hardware lineage goes Atari VCS->Atari 8-bit->Amiga->Lynx->3DO (sorry Jaguar)
That and Atari was already privy to the Amiga's chipset specs, graphics modes, and theory of operation prior to the Atari ST beginning development. Those who say that Tramiel didn't know about this since it was prior to his acquisition of Atari may have missed the part where Tramiel's son presented him with the file on the loan details from Atari to Amiga. Certainly with that loan agreement would be the reasons for the loan and the documents for the intended 68000-based Atari home computer project based on the Amiga chipset (complete with details of the Amiga-Atari meetings in which the Amiga dev team explained the inner workings of the Amiga hardware to the engineers at Atari). That neatly leads into the rush job that you mentioned (since Atari suddenly no longer had access to the Amiga chipset).
Spectacular find on the Amiga 4000T. Because there are multiple SCSI drives in there, I suspect it was indeed a non-linear editing machine. Interleaved SCSI drives were a technique of increasing the frame-rate. Even without the RTG card you can now run cool stuff like this on there: ruclips.net/video/wmcOXIk9VwM/видео.html As for the ST vs Amiga, to be fair, Tremiel locked them down in court long enough to release the ST first. The Amiga hardware was already demoed at the summer 1984 CES. Ironically, the Amiga's essentially an amped-up Atari 800, so.... I recommend checking out every interview and talk by Joe Decuir to uncover more of the truth regarding the Amiga's history.
Don't worry Dave, you can't lose friend's you don't have 🙃 but seriously... 4000T wow, not seen one of those for a while. I bought a 512STFM it was cheaper was a great machine but moved onto A500 late 80's when better looking games started to appear. Then A1200 early 90's just before CBM International went belly up. Upgraded the 1200 and stayed off windows until about 97'
Chris has just confused everyone by getting the name backwards 😂 They're ShuRoos. Don't think there's any proof of them working, though. I also grew up in Canberra and can confirm seeing kangaroos right in the city.
A replica rubber key Spectrum ? No thanks, had an original back in the day, hated the keyboard. Give me a proper keyboard any day. Nostalgia be damned. An Atari 7800+ - nope. An Amiga sounds more interesting - but the market ? Are secondhand Amiga 500 expensive ? (£150 working seems a ballpark figure.) The Amiga needs a lot more memory than a stock A500 had. Having games run without faffing around would be cool. Hopefully it would have acceleration options and other popular upgrades.
I much preferred the look of the 48+ and 128K machines anyway. Especially the original 128K Spectrum. Not the +2 and onwards, they were rather ugly in my eyes.
In Retro Gamer, the makers were saying that it was impossible to replicate the original manufacturing process for the keyboard (because the equipment, process etc just doesn't exist) and they went for a supplier that makes keyboards for tablets etc and were impressed with the result.
1:12:40 Stopped following that guy years ago, just found too many of the videos had errors in them (of those I knew), if you did point it out in the comments, it would disappear, or you get mobbed by the worshipers, it was back then at least quantity over quality, and often you would get a comment, ohh I had to get the video out, so did not confirm my assertions
I expect to get a lot of downvotes for this, but I can't understand the preoccupation Dave seems to have with mini retro consoles and computers. I can fully understand wanting to own and restore original equipment. But these plastic crap soc units? What's the appeal? It's just more landfill fodder. If you want to experience the old games then emulation on a Raspberry Pi or PC is surely the way to go and certainly a far greener alternative...
It's the same appeal as a fried chicken takeaway over a home cooked roast. It's quick, cheap and satisfies a spontaneous craving, but of course, it cannot be compared to the genuine article. I dislike mini retro consoles too, but - and this is the only consolation - anything that helps to create or revive interest in the home computers of my childhood can only be a good thing.
Who said is has to be one or the other? I have an irrational number of OG consoles. I also find the Minis to be irresistibly adorable. Plus, if I'm going to go on a work trip, and might find myself in a hotel room over the weekend, which would I rather have with me? An NES toaster with a flash cart and an OSSC? Or a Mini? There's always a phone or a Vita, etc., but my eyes aren't getting any younger, and that big TV is just sitting there in the room doing nothing anyway....
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I must say I'm a big fan of Lurch's new "Peaky Blinders" look 😁
He stole our hearts :)
Great to see a shout out to Computer Sheds, Jim has amassed a collection of old computers beyond comprehension. I have had the pleasure of meeting him a couple of times. This collection needs to be an entire museum. You simply don't understand until you see it.
oh man!! Ive missed Mr.Lurch on his channel - good to see him again, thanks to everyone.
Fantastic episode. I think all episodes should be this length! :D
Poor Duncan only got finished late last evening! He'd go on strike if we did that
Long episodes awesome!
In the U.S. those are called deer whistles. (We have a lot of deer who like to cross roads.) No proof they work yet they are still sold decades after their introduction.
There definitely was a battle back in the day between ST and Amiga users. I got my Amiga in 89 (batman pack) and the ST was already established. I had friends who had both machines. And although i respected the ST you could see that even with ports, the amigas superior sound was being utilised, and graphical tweets were added. Then when the full use of the amiga were starting to be used the inevitable comparisons would start. The only come back ST owners would have is "yeah but it has midi" which a lot of them didnt even know what it was let alone use it. The fact is, these machines were bought for games and the amiga was better at them. But its worth remembering, the ST was always a cheaper more affordable machine. But the battles in my circles went from 89 to about 92. Funnily enough my ST friends were around my house to play games more than i was around theirs. Says it all really.
Don't forget that the ST's 68000 CPU was clocked a bit higher, meaning that it was generally a bit quicker with 3D polygonal games - such as Frontier Elite. However the difference was marginal at best.
@@Retrohertz and I respected the ST. It was the first 16 bit machine I saw. I remember my mate was playing xenon on it. The digitised programmers face saying "sector 1" blew me away at the time. So the memories for both machines are closely linked.
ST was not bought for gaming only nearly as often as Amiga. Especially in Germany it was seen more as a computer for small business, an alternative to Macintosh. Besides things like Cubase, Desktop Publishing was a big thing on the Atari thanks to Mega ST line, a dedicated laser printer and professional software like Calamus. There were hundreds of professional quality apps available for the ST ranging from managing a gym customers to CAD, 3D modelling to rather expensive research analysis software for engineers.
@@Retrohertzand it could be made even less if you used blitter to assist
Great to see Mr. Lurch 😊
Thanks everyone, good editing work Duncan.
25:56 The ZX Spectrum was sold worldwide! Not only in the UK and most West European countries but also as the Timex Computer 2048 in Portugal, Poland and Chile, but also as the Timex Sinclair 2068 in the US and Argentina (most likely US stock after Timex' withdrawal from the US market), as the Microdigital TK90X and TK95 in Brazil, Czerweny CZ Spectrum in Argentina and Uruguay, the deciBells dB Spectrum+ in India and lots of clones in East Europe.
I had a Timex 2048
Fellow Australian here. I have never owned or used a Spectrum in my life, but I have ordered The Spectrum because I want to try it out, I'm eagerly awaiting its arrival and I'm excited about the full size Amiga product that RGL are developing, even though, again, I've had very little experience with the Amiga. I have used what I think was an A500 in the early 90s, but I don't remember very much about it.
My first computer ❤❤
I didn't get a chance to grab one of Taki's DC-10 clones from the first batch. Hoping to get one from the next batch.
Sorry to Duncan for having to edit the long show but we're all happy to have more TWIR this week.
😁😁😁
The key on the Spectrum, like with the ZX81 and Atari 400 were never as bad back in the day as people say now retrospectively. You could code quite quickly on Sinclair keyboards because of the keyword shortcuts. Of course with TheSpectrum, you will probably be able to plug in a USB keyboard if you like.
Missed you Mr Lurch 😊😊
Lovely episode. Reese is a great new addition to the show.
AHOY is the very best IMO, and one of the finest voices on RUclips, up there with Dave ;)
Interestingly, not only the The Spectrum and the TheC64 and TheA500 and the Amiga Maxi are produced by Plaion for Retro Games but also the 2600+ and 7800+ and all peripherals are produced by Plaion, for Atari.
Good to see Jason looking well :)
I want the 7800+ to Sit Next to My Christmas '89 7800.
I remember Everyone Asking "Wheres the 7800 Shell" when the 2600+ came out last year.
Thx for the 7800+ coverage, I can't wait 🎉 more on my channel 🕹️
In 1985 Commodore was concentrating their sales effort for the Amiga on large corporations. The were not marketing it as a game/home machine. They thought they could compete with the PC in the same market. I worked in a major international bank IT department then and we had a few pre-launch Amigas lent to us for assessment. We played with them a bit but continued forward with PCs as we had already a large investment in software by then.
babylon 5 was produced using amiga for video editing and special effects. Disney used them for various theme park visuals, even as long as a decade after they went out of business. Amiga were awesome machines and were used in a surprising number of places. Real shame they went out of business, that machine was my favorite for the home market by a very large margin.
I'd like to see another run of the Atari 400 Mini, but as an 800XL Maxi with working keyboard - The 400 Mini killed off the Revive Machines 800XL, which I was hoping to get!
Mr Lurch! Good to see him.
Still holding out for a cpc 6128 modern recreation.
Great Stuff!!!
Lovely long one ! Loved it
Just a note to say that QMTech has already released a DE10 Nano clone, so Taki's one is not the first.
Can you get a full pack for 160 plus shipping and taxes anywhere else but in Taki Udom store?
I was so confused to be thanked for a “wee cough”. Cheers, Dave.
That was lovely!
Mr Lurch is great!
Good luck playing fast moving games such as Guardian II (Defender) on the rubber keys. It doesn't use cursors keys, which I use on usb keyboards for emulation. Another concern for me with the Speccy is diagonals on some joystick games. There's no news of joysticks uncluded and what the device will support. The C64 doesn't support a great amount of controllers, albeit the Amiga Mini had more controller options with firmware uogrades.
Where can I get a new spectrum!!!
Oh my I’ve just preordered one. Thanks for the heads over heels up.
There's loads of PC98 games that have English translation patches. A mini PC98 would be nice.
Can confirm what others have said, the deer whistles have been sold for decades in Michigan.
Do they work? Well, who knows but I've seen loads of them on people's cars.
I miss my 4MB Atari STFM, with 52MB hard disk, but I sold it and used the money to build my first 486-SX33 PC.
I used Amiga for work in publishing and CAD work. 2 different work / employee
A cheep way to get homebrew on an ATARI 2600+ is to buy a "32 in 1 game cartridge" which works fine, and do the mod to take an Eprom that will switch between 16 4K games. Not exactly a FlashCard solution, but if you use an Eprom that can be erased it is a sort-of swappable solution.
We want the A4000 with keyboard, the prices on Amiga keyboards for the desktops are crazy these days.
The isn’t any evidence that the Shu Roo, or the conceptually related deer whistle, are effective at preventing vehicle strikes against the animals.
Anecdotally, the only car I had a deer whistle set on was also the only one where I hit a deer.
River raid is my favourite 2600 game.
Hearing the talk of manic miner and not being able to get past the first level, that's similar for me with Sonic 2 on the game gear, i have rarely ever gotten past the first zone on there. Playing the master system version, I'm able to since it's not cropped like it was when ported to the game gear.
Speaking as an American, the ST here outsold the Amiga until the 500 came out. The ST sales fade was slow. About a third of the ones I came across in person (so not counting buying online) were STEs which didn't come out till 1989. The Amiga didn't start getting better looking games than the ST till about a year after the 500 came out, and that pushed Amiga sales far past ST sales. The Amiga sales fade was fast here. VGA graphics on the PC started to become common in 1990, and that is what killed both the ST and the Amiga. By the time the 1200 came out the Amiga market in the US was almost dead. Of the Amigas I have come across at least 80% were 500s, 10% were 2000s, and the rest was all other models. In a perfect world the Atari and Commodore would have looked at the 1987 release of VGA on PC and Mac, and realized that they needed to compete.
you should have tried coding on the Sinclair ZX81 keyboard, as I used to, 🙂
@1:21:50 Um, yeah the used Jaguar cartridge market already has mental $$$ prices! Would like to see the opposite happen, and have a jag mini run games off usb.
There's no technical reason why a flashcart for the 2600+ & 7800+ can't be produced that has a menu but presents the selected game image as a single ROM. The principle is the same as Slot-2 flash carts that allow the Nintendo DS to play Gameboy Advance games natively.
There is no 2 way communication between the 2600+ and the cart. It cannot be done.
@@ThisWeekinRetro The CPU must signal the cartridge's ROM chip over the address and chip enable lines and receive data back over the data lines. That is how ROM ICs work and surely 2-way by definition, or no?
That not withstanding, Dave's example of the GX4000 multicart is an adequate alternative method.
@@ThisWeekinRetro It would be the same principle as is used with the gotek/openflops, have the menu on the cart itself, even if it is just a number being displayed, and the system itself only ever sees the image you want it to.
Nah the whole cartridge ROM is visible to the machine at boot, it then takes a copy of it and uses that. A menu isn't possible
That's right. A gotek style display, or the example I gave which is dip switches would work
I have a MiSTer and computers capable of Spectrum emulation but I'm still getting a The Spectrum (as a Christmas present) for one specific reason: the keyboard! If you already have a real Spectrum I don't see the need but I don't and this will be the most reliable way to get one that gives that genuine keyboard feeling.
I do have an Amiga 1200 so no real interest in getting a full size replication but I really, really hope they don't have it in the style of an A600! 😂
For the MiSTER Pi the first batch of 1000 sold out in 9 minutes!
Isn't the Amiga 500 just a bit bigger than the average full sized keyboard? I mean I thought it was around the size of the C64 bread box? Watching Retro Recipes that's the scale that comes across. So I don't think it will be that bad.
It's quite a bit bigger and a lot heavier. There's no reason of course for a modern one to be heavy. The a600 is a lot smaller.
Nobara Project is a good linux for playing steam, gog and other windows games
The 1980s lead platform being the Atari ST in a lot of cases caused nothing but worse games other than a few early 3D games where the slightly faster 68000 clock made a difference. Having played a lot of my childhood ST games on the Amiga recently, I'd rather not remember the ST sound. Maybe that is rewriting my personal gaming history. I guess without the ST the 16-bit market would have been too small to support ANY software development in the 1980s so we should be thankful! Team17 were coming!
The reason the The Spectrum isn't officially sold in the US is because of the game rating which is different from Europe. So they would have to get North American ratings for all 48 games.
Nostalgia should be nostalgia 😊
Atari ST owners seem to be obsessed with Amiga sales much more than Amiga owners. Is it perhaps because Atari fans know that the Amiga is a true descendant of the Atari lineage and the ST was a list-minute rush job when Tramiel lost the Amiga to Commodore and Tramiel (and Atari fanboys) never got over it? They're maybe insecure that the ST is an Atari-in-name-only. The direct Atari hardware lineage goes Atari VCS->Atari 8-bit->Amiga->Lynx->3DO (sorry Jaguar)
That and Atari was already privy to the Amiga's chipset specs, graphics modes, and theory of operation prior to the Atari ST beginning development. Those who say that Tramiel didn't know about this since it was prior to his acquisition of Atari may have missed the part where Tramiel's son presented him with the file on the loan details from Atari to Amiga. Certainly with that loan agreement would be the reasons for the loan and the documents for the intended 68000-based Atari home computer project based on the Amiga chipset (complete with details of the Amiga-Atari meetings in which the Amiga dev team explained the inner workings of the Amiga hardware to the engineers at Atari). That neatly leads into the rush job that you mentioned (since Atari suddenly no longer had access to the Amiga chipset).
My first car had shoo roos on it. Never hit one with it. But did have a small kangaroo run into the passenger door once. So 🤷♂️
Spectacular find on the Amiga 4000T. Because there are multiple SCSI drives in there, I suspect it was indeed a non-linear editing machine. Interleaved SCSI drives were a technique of increasing the frame-rate. Even without the RTG card you can now run cool stuff like this on there: ruclips.net/video/wmcOXIk9VwM/видео.html
As for the ST vs Amiga, to be fair, Tremiel locked them down in court long enough to release the ST first. The Amiga hardware was already demoed at the summer 1984 CES. Ironically, the Amiga's essentially an amped-up Atari 800, so.... I recommend checking out every interview and talk by Joe Decuir to uncover more of the truth regarding the Amiga's history.
Don't worry Dave, you can't lose friend's you don't have 🙃 but seriously... 4000T wow, not seen one of those for a while. I bought a 512STFM it was cheaper was a great machine but moved onto A500 late 80's when better looking games started to appear. Then A1200 early 90's just before CBM International went belly up. Upgraded the 1200 and stayed off windows until about 97'
I don't want a mini Jaguar. I want the real thing. Except they cost a bit much nowadays and don't come up for sale very often either.
Chris has just confused everyone by getting the name backwards 😂 They're ShuRoos. Don't think there's any proof of them working, though.
I also grew up in Canberra and can confirm seeing kangaroos right in the city.
I can't help but think shoes made of roos would be a good idea (in winter) now.
There's no way the Amiga wont be a 600 due to production and packaging requirements.
Reebok's used to be made out of kangaroo hide.
They look like nick nacks, hnnnm nice and spicy .
"Chris is full of sh*t" .....except when he isn't ;)
A replica rubber key Spectrum ? No thanks, had an original back in the day, hated the keyboard. Give me a proper keyboard any day. Nostalgia be damned. An Atari 7800+ - nope. An Amiga sounds more interesting - but the market ? Are secondhand Amiga 500 expensive ? (£150 working seems a ballpark figure.) The Amiga needs a lot more memory than a stock A500 had. Having games run without faffing around would be cool. Hopefully it would have acceleration options and other popular upgrades.
I much preferred the look of the 48+ and 128K machines anyway. Especially the original 128K Spectrum. Not the +2 and onwards, they were rather ugly in my eyes.
In Retro Gamer, the makers were saying that it was impossible to replicate the original manufacturing process for the keyboard (because the equipment, process etc just doesn't exist) and they went for a supplier that makes keyboards for tablets etc and were impressed with the result.
Guys please get some guys/girls old enough to actually remember the 80’s stuff 😊 Dave and Mister Lurch aside. Maybe 50+? Reece looks too young.
Rees is awesome and knows his stuff.
So Mr lurch is having affair with Mark from retro chan ? ;)
1:12:40 Stopped following that guy years ago, just found too many of the videos had errors in them (of those I knew), if you did point it out in the comments, it would disappear, or you get mobbed by the worshipers, it was back then at least quantity over quality, and often you would get a comment, ohh I had to get the video out, so did not confirm my assertions
I expect to get a lot of downvotes for this, but I can't understand the preoccupation Dave seems to have with mini retro consoles and computers. I can fully understand wanting to own and restore original equipment. But these plastic crap soc units? What's the appeal? It's just more landfill fodder. If you want to experience the old games then emulation on a Raspberry Pi or PC is surely the way to go and certainly a far greener alternative...
Some people buy Royal Doulton Figurines and display them... I'd rather have a mini console or 2 on my mantle piece.
It's the same appeal as a fried chicken takeaway over a home cooked roast. It's quick, cheap and satisfies a spontaneous craving, but of course, it cannot be compared to the genuine article.
I dislike mini retro consoles too, but - and this is the only consolation - anything that helps to create or revive interest in the home computers of my childhood can only be a good thing.
Who said is has to be one or the other? I have an irrational number of OG consoles. I also find the Minis to be irresistibly adorable.
Plus, if I'm going to go on a work trip, and might find myself in a hotel room over the weekend, which would I rather have with me? An NES toaster with a flash cart and an OSSC? Or a Mini? There's always a phone or a Vita, etc., but my eyes aren't getting any younger, and that big TV is just sitting there in the room doing nothing anyway....
Oh gawd! I'm so sick of Rasberry Pi. It's always been nothing but a disappointment.
@@SVW1976 really? I thought the first pi was amazing, also keen on the zero as it integrates really well.
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