‘90 Day Fiancé’: Natalie ENDS Relationship With Josh, Calls Him ‘Weak’
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- Опубликовано: 19 фев 2024
- ET's Melicia Johnson breaks down the must-see moments from season 4, episode 8 of ‘90 Day: The Single Life,’ from Natalie calling Josh ‘weak’ due to his lack of commitment, to her ending their relationship after a year and a half of dating. ‘90 Day: The Single Life’ airs Mondays at 8 p.m. ET/PT on TLC, and streams on Max and Discovery+.
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To be honest Josh told her up front that he couldn’t give her everything she wanted .. That his work and kids were his priorities .. He never lied to her .
So why is he with her then? Just for a fling? He knows she obviously wants more and wants a husband
@@ravenc4912Yes it was a fling for him and she went along with it because he has money/ the lifestyle she wants and maybe she thought he would love her overtime if she hung in there.
So then why did he sleep with her and romance her? clowns 🤡
@@brooklyn3299come on now it's obvious he used her for 😹 and camera time.
@brooklyn3299 go home girl. You thought the USA was easy...booya
She needs to heal herself. It's not a man's job to do that. She blames the men for all her problems when she's at fault.
She just wants commitment and love.
Sounds like a narcissist
Well said!!
no she will be this way forever
Seems as though she isn't capable of achieving much, or even doing much without a man. 🤷🏼♀️
Josh was not that into her. I don't think he is so much afraid of committing but as he said she needs someone else.
He had a girlfriend this whole time
@AzothDee I noticed that from the first episode! You’re spot on.
It's because it's a fake scripted relationship. He has a live in gf in AZ.
She doesn’t need a man-she needs a man’s wallet.
Can the church say amen.🙌
She needs a good therapist.
@@pamelahoward1899 Agree but she’ll look for a man to pay for it
@@kerryz966she need to go with a sugar daddy
@@EMcgame.23 There's a limit to how much sugar daddies can put up with!
Girl bye! She was only dating him for what she thought he was going to do for her. He had already told her he didn’t want anything serious. That should have said enough
And he was dating her just for sex. You americans are funny. Ukrainian women are smart!
Natalie, go see a therapist.....
That’s not fair!! Josh told Natalie from the get go that he didn’t want anything serious but she kept running back to him to use him for his money
Facts.
So it’s fair for a man to romance a woman, sleep with her consistently without no strings attached? 😂😂😂 sure Jan
It's transactional. But Natalie wants more than what Josh wanna give, whereas Natalie doesn't measure up what Josh wants.
She blames Mike for wasting 7 years but she didn't think she wasted Mike's time. Blaming all men like they were bad but failed to see why. She'll be in for heartbreak again.
..and Natalie paid him back by promoting his compagny on international TV.
She didn't promote his company on international TV. HE put himself through hell dating a woman like her to promote his own business. @@ilovelifelifelovesme773
I heard this the other day. It was really powerful 💕
A man is not a plan, he’s a companion.
Courtesy of Fulton County Georgia DA Fani Willis during her court testimony last week.😁💯
💯😆💯😆💯
That’s HER ! 💕🥰. Great advise girls.
@ilovegoodsax I heard it too. Thanks for reminding us whose wise words we'd heard.
🐝💕
I do not believe Josh ever mislead her. A month in she was wanting a ring and child
I clicked this because the thumbnail of Natalie crying holding a tree had me rolling
😂💀
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I think maybe getting a job would be more important than the fertility clinic, at this time
I think she didn't understand the procedure. She thought she would actually meet her next victim in person. So glad THAT was another fail. 🙌
@@vblackwell3347 😂 I didn’t think of that. 🤦♀️
I think she was hoping to apply for a sugar baby position w/ the baby daddy. Good deal- 2 babies for the price of 1 donation. It would cost HIM a fortune though.
@@cathy_clarinet It's TLC characters! Always think in terms of sleezy!
@@vblackwell3347 I know right. It just gets worse and worse
Natalie did that to her husband... karma! The grass ain't greener.
@angelahernandez6250 Right! It’s like sorry no one is jumping up to be your 4th husband!
@@NotCarlos887 Lmao
Michael was the right guy for her and she blew it.
Karma is a bitch! Natalie BLINDSIDED Mike. At least Josh was upfront from the start.
@@mandlas.4305he dodged a bullet. Thankfully
Natalie's the weak one, not Josh
She’s really broken and emotionally unstable
I usually agree with your opinions on Natalie but cmon. She brought it upon herself, and he has done enough for her I think. She just didn’t want to be with a Mike type of man and thought she could bag a Josh with no issues.
Josh is not a prize here lol😂
@@brooklyn3299He's no prize, but he's worth more than her. At least he is financially independent but Natalie can't afford anything she wants but wants alot
@@brooklyn3299 no one said that genius. But he has been honest with her about not making her a big priority with words and actions. He is not the best but Natalie wanted to make him care for her more than he what he did.
Melicia you are way too soft on Natalie 😂 Natalie knew what this was but hey, she used him very much to her benefit and now she's a step closer to Hollywood.
Cos she's gonna interview Natalie in future. Can't burn bridges. Natalie's crazy enough to be removed from TLC
@@jasg771 Oh I know exactly why she keeps it cute with these reality stars lol
Why? She is a pain in the ass towards Josh, but she wants everything from Josh, run Josh, run!
My thing is he helped her with home, car, and trying to get her a job. He didn’t have to do that.
He had. They were together, she was sleeping with him. He should do things for her.
Natalie ends things with Josh to save face. She knew he was about to end it with her!
This I believe. Josh was likely upset because of embarrassment, not sadness lol
But it's also likely she wanna end things cos she seemed disgusted by him, like how Analee looks at Clayton. Natalie constantly thinks she's a princess and envisioned staying in a castle, she was piss with Mike for making her stay in a farmhouse. It is ok to want finer things in life, but to despise the person who provide u is just ridiculous. She can't even afford anything she wants and gotta depend on men and in turn blame them for everything.
@@jasg771 She has severe delusions of grandeur.
Exactly
It's a fake scripted relationship. He has a live in gf in AZ.
I think Natalie’s pedestal thinking of herself also comes from her mom. Her mom said something like “josh had a year and hasn’t asked her to marry him”. Really??? The apple doesn’t fall off from the tree. 😮
It’s old fashioned mentally. A lot of boomers think this way. Nat gets lots of pressure from her mom.
Her mom is so scary to look at. She looks like the crypt keeper.
I came to Canada from Africa as a single mother with two young children one under one year old. 20 years after, I have done it all. I raised my kids, they are doing great and now I don’t have to work two or three jobs. Come on Natalie, why do you rely on yourself and God 🤷🏽♀️🤦🏾♀️
Natalie is in LA with no job, staying in an apartment her ex payed 6 months in advance for, and she wants to have a baby? I wonder who payed for the fertility consult (TLC?). Is Michael paying for her medical insurance? None of this makes any sense. Is Michael now supporting her LA lifestyle?
Fertility clinic is super expensive I was wondering that too
I think Natalie doesn't need any kids bc if you can't take care of yourself then how will you take care of a baby? When you're sick you're still a parent, when you're happy, sad, mad, depressed, having a bad day, having a good day. It's 24/7 it's not only when they're awake. Personally I don't think she could handle it bc she's very used to being all about herself very self absorbed. You kind of lose yourself in a way when you become a parent bc your old life is over its all about your kid now. I think Natalie is too selfish to grow in that way. And since he told her upfront he can't give her everything it's her fault for staying. He's busy and not available enough for her she should've accepted that when she first heard it so she could leave.
Probably. As her sponor, married or not, he's financially responsible for her for the 1st 10 yrs. 😢
@@brianawhittaker8152 She only wants a baby do the father has to give her a check each month. She's looking at it as a source of income.
She would only use a child, and use the father’s responsibility to benefit herself financially. She is clearly a narcissist
Natalie is no prize.
Josh dodged a bullet
Big time!
Yes, she’s a hot, needy mess.
Nothing is enough for Natalie! Josh, take the car back and tell her to find someone to make her happy!
Correction, Michael gave Natalie 7 years of his life, a home, food, medical (she had sinus surgery and made him pay for it and didn't even have the courtesy to tell him), but ran from him at the hospital. Gave away her Christmas presents to her girlfriend that Michael bought her. Accused Uncle Bo of stealing. Brought a rat home and dumped it, along with her dog. Michael turned the rat loose and the dog mysteriously died. She moved to Florida and dated other men, while having Michael's credit card to support her. And she gave Michael 7 years of her life? What did she give in that relationship? Michael did all the giving, and went through hell giving it. He couldn't even eat or drink beer in her presence. It's been the same with Josh. Only Josh hasn't moved her in, and supports her at an arms length.
Cheater. Team Trish and Mike. Green card.
No man will heal Natalie. Natalie needs to heal *by herself* BEFORE she gets into a new relationship... That's why all her relationships fail, because she's a broken person who then takes out her hurt on her partners.. Fix YOURSELF first, and then as the whole balanced healthy person, enter a relationship if you meet someone special... Until then...
He was undecided about her... glad she made the move.. your off the HOOK JOSH...
RUN RUN RUN
Shes wayyyyyyyy too much! Josh said from the beginning he wasn't looking for something serious and she ignored everything he said and made up her own reality! Hes been doing everything he can to distance himself and hes never been more relieved about anything!! She led herself on!! He was honest she doesn't want to hear what she doesn't want to hear!!
I can’t believe you’re bashing Josh! Of course his children are his first priority. And his job has to be a priority - he has children to support.
I think he treated her well, considering that he does have children and a demanding job. I never heard her expressing any appreciation for the apartment, for the car, for the job interviews.
I have imagine that Josh feels relief more than anything else.
But Natalie is a perennial VICTIM.
And I’m not buying her “I don’t need a man” BS. She’ll be looking for another man to use, asap.
As far as Natalie
Yes she tries to say she will be independent and strong despite her and her mother only surviving and being supported by the men in her life 1st Michael who she used to get a green card then dumped then Josh who.she thought would finance her and her mother to live a an extravagant life style forever but this wasn't the case. It still doesn't change the fact that he supported her when he didn't have to.
Come on, TLC they her very good money.
Can't u see how fake he was? He was nice to her cos he's on TV. There wasn't any ounce of attraction when he looked at her.
@anne3067 They were seeing each other for like 1 and a half years, if he cared about her he would have asked her to be his girlfriend... He didn't even want to commit to that
Shows how smart he was.
Nataly is hugging that tree😂 it's killing me.. She is such a drama queen 😂😂😂😂
Where are you going to get your money? You used each other. Game over!
aww I kind of feel bad for her.. I know she has her flaws, but everyone deserves to be loved back.. Josh was not it for her, he does not want to be married and have kids.
Josh should be glad.
"I have to be with someone who can heal me."
Physician heal thyself ❤
Oh, wow, I missed that part! There you go, she had some really serious issues. I’m no therapist but it’s pretty obvious. I wouldn’t even want her as a girlfriend. (Platonic)
Of course, after he financially helps her and her mother. He literally got her everything she needed to survive. It seems like they had an agreement to be together just for the show.
Actually, that's what they did.
U mean it's fake!?
Even a car and he gets labelled the bad one this is why guys need to sell them brawds dream's donkey fuck them and bounce don't buy em shit it won't be appreciated
@lillylee9908 Yes, it is. It was revealed that they were put together for the TLC stint. Josh has a long time, live-in girlfriend in Arizona. He did this show to promote his modeling co.
I don’t think that was Josh who helped her mom, it seems like it was Michael
Ohhhh ... Nothing grinds my gears more than " I'm sorry that you felt that way " Smelling some narcissistic traits here.
How so Natalie is the one that strung Michael than abandoned him and started a situationship while still being married to Mike. Looks like karma to Natalie the narcissist herself then she plays victim afterwards the audacity 😒 🙄 😤
@@69Fabulosity back to Mike
@melissat3341 He divorced her in Jan, '04i for a very pretty Latino lover. 😅
@@vblackwell3347 well I can recall those old episodes of him and Natalie maybe she should not go back.
Not weak, an opportunist….no way he cared about her, but the exposure helped him financially.
She should have asked Josh, why he never invited her to his house?.
..and waited for him to answer. That would've put everything into perspective
natalie just did josh a BIG favor. hes gotta be happy. whats wrong with her she acts like a school kid. she doesnt understand anything. like the man works and has obligations to his kids. what doesnt she understand and then she crys like a child
Because she watched to many times Cinderella. 😂🤣
For the first time I actually feel sorry for her. She needs to just go back home with her Mum😢
No, her country is in war. She should stays in usa and single, but I totally understand her. She is only daughter and she just has her mom in this world. It is too much pressure
She should go job hunting , seriously.
@@Vrazzo1490 For real, but not as an 'actress' 🤣🤣
Isn't she still legally married to Michael I think she was using Josh her mood swings will drive anyone away
I feel like their whole thing is just for a story line. Natalie has wanted to be an actress and I think that's why she married Michael in 1st place, so she could come to states and become a big star. IJS
Thank you Melcia your advice is so helpful. Natalie is a human being and ive been there too. Josh stringing her along but with no intention to ever commit to her. Well done Natalie for walking away.
I hope Josh does not go to the reunion , because all Natalie will do is play the victim
Josh is also caring for his son that was in serious car accident.
Natalie deserves to be miserable after the way she treated Michael. .. I have no empathy for her. Drama queen.
Josh was on The Show just for the views and Cámara
Either way he understood the assignment not her bc she's delusional 💯
Both of em was I think
My question is who is gonna be her sucker next season? 😊
If she really want real love go with Tyree😂 he don't got kids and he really single and look for serious relationship
Natelie? What in the world do you have against poor, innocent Ty?😂
I mean he’s been pretty honest from the start. She’s the one who said “if I sleep with him I consider the father of my children”. She wants so much so fast, and he should have just avoided her or ghosted her completely.
She's right . But the way she handled him made her look as if she's wrong and crazy
She will NEVER BE HAPPY
Josh always been kind of honest . All the time he said I like you instead of love you. Take a hint Nathalie. Work hard on yourself , trust God.
Natalie is annoying
I genuinely believe Josh cared about her. The sound in his voice when she was breaking up with him and his face turning red, and redder. Anyone, saying he made money off being on the show, well…please show me what he GAINED from being on the show.
He never showed or said he wanted anything further with her
@@ravenc4912 how can he? She’s so unstable.
@@ravenc4912 and never wanted anything with her? He put his name on her car, apartment etc. what more can one ask for? That is HUGE for a guy!
Publicity for his Business 😂😅
He’s a photographer of models..now more models will call for portfolio shots from him.
You're weak for going back and allowing the way he treated you. Jeez i wish i could've walked away mad with an apt. & car 🤨💩☠️
Always love your dating advice so much❤
The host sounds just as delusional as Natalie. She's a red flag and this guy is dodging a huge bullet
Natalie is getting a taste of karma for what she did to Michael
Oh my goodness. I’m going through a breakup rn and I’m feeling for Natalie, and cried along with her. Being emotionally weak over someone that isn’t as committed as you is a heartbreaking realization to come to. Time to be our own cheerleaders 🥹
Natalie said that her 1st husband was her dream guy who treated her like a queen but the reason why that marriage ended was because of her reckless and crazy attitude. She’s clearly the problem, not the men she’s picking as mates!
Hell yes , she outta her mind ,has deep mental issues.
I need Natalie to be the next bachelorette!!!! Let them fight for you Natalie!!!
She's not 1 in a million. Go to her country. Lots of Natalie's there. Lol
The last thing she needs is a baby..imagine the drama..
Right, imagine how emotional she would be pregnant?! 🙄 I don't think she could handle it, she is so immature
She needs a permanent stay at a nut hospital. That's truly what Ms. Natalie needs.🤪
Unfortunately, I do believed today, that he's really got a girlfriend in Arizona, and Natalie is acting, making these "relationships" facsinating to watch. For all of is here( It's all for production, not a real relationship.
YOU are absolutely correct. 😊
Have anyone noticed the smile in Josh heart
Natalie is finally made Josh happy😅
Natalie needs to get rid of this entitlement attitude she has.
I agree with Natalie you can’t wait your time with someone who is not putting in the same energy into the relationship.
You know she's bat sh*t crazy right? There's nothing wrong with the men it's all her.🤪
Natalie had a husband and i bet she thinks it ok to crawl back to Michael now
Oops. Too late!Mike divorced her in Jan, '04. He has a pretty Latino lover now. 😂
@@vblackwell3347 Latino? So he's gay?
@@JoseHernandez-ql8vw Um, what?????
Who else is dumb enough to give her a second chance?
@@JoseHernandez-ql8vwIt's a woman
Is she gonna give the car back and the apartment? 😮 Natalie get a puppy 🐶 😍
Exactly! 😂
A puppy? That would be animal cruelty... How will she afford pet insurance? She used to have a dog which she dumped with Mike, the dog died and she didn't even know for months.
@@Qwinpin You're right, I forgot all about that. Have a nice evening 😊
She needs a permanent stay at the nut hospital.
Ngl, my heart broke for her a little. I just don’t think she’s self aware so her pain is real to her…
She actually believes she gave Michael 7 years of sacrifice for love.
Knowing her, she was using this as a tactic hoping he would chase her.
Get a real job Natalie
Josh has an established life in Los Angeles. He has his career, his children, his friends and family, his property... He's not starting from zero like Natalie is right now. So of course they're on different level when it comes to time and energy... Josh is trying to fit Natalie into his busy schedule. And Natalie has an open schedule, she has no commitments in Los Angeles, she could be with Josh 100% of her time... But sadly these two are on different pages. And it's not Josh's fault. They should have met years ago when they both were in the same place in life... Just not meant to be! And that's okay. Time to move on ~ for both of them...
She could have asked him what he wanted instead of accusing him of not caring. She just told him he’s not good enough.
Melicia is in the perfect job. Hell yes to all of her commentary!
Excellent content platform
Mikes mom was right bou this woman
She used Mike for a green card played him had him pay for her nose surgery, sponsor her and still paid for her lifestyle after she left. And Josh was her next target yet he was not the one to be played with so easy. She’s so delusional.
It will be ok Natalie,sometimes u have to go through pain to find yourself
I like how you said that, Melicia. Who made Josh the prize? Josh did! He thinks that he’s doing Natalie a favor being with her it seems
Crying is healing too.
The other guys mother tried to tell Josh
My God you're a good host lol. I hope they use you at the tell all!!
Josh knew what was happening when he helped move her to LA. He should have been introducing her to his kids and moving forward. His friends label his as a rescuer but he's truly got some avoidant tendancies.
I'm sure he sees she has deep mental issues. Who wants a delusional person near their kids?
He was like …Hells yes am gone 🤣
She was never inlove with Michael...she used Michael for green card. Now, she's will try to use him again. The question is, will Michael fall for it again? Natalie is a manipulator. It's her way or the highway. She is a spoil brat. She's mental.
Thank you melcia for always being the voice of reason love your wisdom great comentary as always 😂❤.
Finally a logical analyst! Can't stand these misogynist viewers attacking her. Sick.
exactly
Anyone know the name of the song that was playing while she was hugging the tree??? Plz
Sorry not sorry Natalie is a mess
She is looking for a sponsor not a relationship.
She’s a struggling actress but doesn’t want the struggle. She always talks about a baby but isn’t in a place financially or emotionally to take care of one.
The last thing she needs is a child. She is still one herself.
Her idea of the American dream is being a kept woman and she may eventually find that with someone but even that comes with a sacrifice.
She had that with him but the. She complained about not seeing him enough and not being allowed to come to his house since the beginning…like you knew this so I don’t understand.
Mike is a hard working level headed man but his life is too simple for what she desires but I believe he could have provided stability loyalty and the child she says she wants so bad
She wants the better qualities of each man wrapped in one but ironically she possesses none of them herself.
The narrator of this show is totally wrong about Natalie. She takeing her side and feel like Natalie is the prize. When people think about diving into this relationship for marriage chances are the woman as least they're dealing with a clean slate. She got a boob job and left Tim with the bill then move to Florida. Josh have every right to look at her sideways isn't this like her fourth marriage she left husband high and dry. Natalie decisions are atrocious. her mother come all the way down to FL so Natalie breaks police and then moved to California. Josh is not paying for rent for a place in California. She is out of her mind. The commentator should support her so she can pay the rent.... Natalie is a bearer of bad luck to anybody she be with and somehow 90 day is not a career for her. She is not making enough money for her to survival in Cali. If that was the case Tim wouldn't be paying for her rent in Florida as well as Josh been encourage to pay rent in California.
I don’t think one is right and one is wrong.They are just in 2 different places in life and want different things.And that’s ok.I been married have kids and happily divorced now.Being in a marriage is not something I want again right now.And definitely not looking to bring anyone into my kids life no matter who they are
It's really weird, he obviously doesn't want children and she is very determined to have children, so why were they one year together? Maybe they never had that conversation?
they had it on the show, she just refused to understand
@@thoughthub8900 Yeah, sometimes you don't want to accept the truth, and then when the truth inevitably comes you realize you have waisted your time. been there, done that!
He’s never been that interested in her
She should have just chilled and kept him and a nice helpful caring friend while looking for another man.
I think nutalie brings nutalie pain…
Well she called her husband a low life now she calls her mistress bf a weak 😂😂
He likes the camera on him, he means.
Josh always look extremely tired😅😂
I definitely would not invite her to my home, period. She could use my address to blackmail me and make up false accusations