The early internet is breaking - here’s how the World Wide Web from the 90s on will be saved

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  • The early web looked different than it does today. In the 1990s, the internet was intimate and a bit amateur. Websites were made by everyday people on their personal computers, desktops, with very minimal knowledge of coding or HTML needed.
    Software becomes obsolete - Flash which made much of the early web run, will be shut down in 2020.
    People stop paying for domain names.
    Companies like Netscape or GeoCities or MySpace that host websites and online communities go out of business, or get sold (to Yahoo! for example).
    The internet is not forever, it can break and disappear.
    Olia Lialina and Dragan Espenschied are part of a growing group of people who preserve and archive our online digital history. They see the web from the 90s and 2000s as an artifact, at times, even, Net Art.
    Dragan/Olia's Tumblr: / oneterabyteofkilobyteage
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Комментарии • 1 тыс.

  • @hotseventyfive
    @hotseventyfive 5 лет назад +1293

    2005: be careful what you put in the internet, it’ll be there forever
    2019:

    • @20035079
      @20035079 5 лет назад +70

      posts are temporary, screenshots are forever

    • @sweiland75
      @sweiland75 5 лет назад +35

      1999: This Internet thing is gonna be huge!
      2019: I wish we could go back to before memes took over RUclips.

    • @hullstar242
      @hullstar242 5 лет назад +18

      sweiland75 did you live back then? RUclips was literally ALL memes.

    • @crnkmnky
      @crnkmnky 5 лет назад +12

      @@hullstar242 "Literally?" You mean it wasn't vacation videos and webcam test footage?

    • @justsomeone4347
      @justsomeone4347 5 лет назад

      They stay if someone tries

  • @nirui.o
    @nirui.o 5 лет назад +2159

    In the 90s, the Internet was like a independent country. Everything is so chaos, vibrant and personal. Today, you are bound to few companies that put their rules in front their users.
    The most sad thing is, people has forgotten that they are creators, and they don't need someone grant them that title.

    • @KirbyLinkACW
      @KirbyLinkACW 5 лет назад +61

      Well, there's also the day Net Neutrality was established. And the day it was repealed...

    • @capnbarky2682
      @capnbarky2682 5 лет назад +38

      Except it's not
      The greater internet is more varied and vibrant than ever, most people just literally dont know how to access websites safely outside of apps.

    • @razzlfraz
      @razzlfraz 5 лет назад +6

      @@fluffmiceter1846 It has for me. I'm on gigabit duplex fiber. (I've been on fiber since 2001.) I'm allowed to use 1% of my upload for anything during off hours, and a little less than 0.1% during busy hours, and 10% of my download. Everything else has to be in AT&Ts fast lane, so getting a proxy of vpn doesn't help. Some websites I visit download like dialup now, despite me having a 1.5ms ping time and the server is down the street. Before the end of net neutrality even people on cable with the common 20mbps upload in this part of the world, it was far faster than what I have today. Please please please, get net neutrality back. It's only going to get worse in the future.

    • @ryanm1630
      @ryanm1630 5 лет назад

      KirbyLinkACW literally nothing has changed

    • @Miquelalalaa
      @Miquelalalaa 5 лет назад +6

      Rui Ni And governments are controlling, regulating, and censuring the internet to their will.

  • @pepsijazz462
    @pepsijazz462 5 лет назад +964

    So much from the 90's and early 2000's internet culture has been lost.

    • @eduardocampos5739
      @eduardocampos5739 5 лет назад +22

      That squiggle will live on

    • @ar_xiv
      @ar_xiv 5 лет назад +19

      And all that remains is dixie cup bullshit

    • @jayfawn8478
      @jayfawn8478 5 лет назад +25

      Tbh, today's webpages are more appealing. clean, user friendly and sleek

    • @linadw
      @linadw 5 лет назад +87

      @@jayfawn8478 It's true -- it's precisely because of universal UX design principles that all websites look the same these days, for optimal usability. But as the video points out, it means that all the distinct personalities of the old era of webpages are gone. They might have been crappy looking, but at least people were able to design them in a way that really reflected their sense of self.

    • @ar_xiv
      @ar_xiv 5 лет назад +3

      ( I like Dixie cup bullshit btw)

  • @yussefjeber3904
    @yussefjeber3904 5 лет назад +1416

    Preserve 90s Internet for the sake of the future of vaporwave aesthetics

    • @q_q123
      @q_q123 5 лет назад +18

      They're good vaporwave material

    • @AnotherWorldYT
      @AnotherWorldYT 5 лет назад +8

      @Serious Face two separate things and one in the same nowadays

    • @hardyzme
      @hardyzme 5 лет назад +4

      In the 90s there were no brown pakistanis on the internet

    • @romarbetc123
      @romarbetc123 5 лет назад +7

      This stuff is incredibly a e s t h e t i c

    • @abishaakmal7455
      @abishaakmal7455 5 лет назад

      @@GodsBadAssBlade outrun is basicly synthwave... 80s vaporwave is 90s

  • @Goldenclap
    @Goldenclap 5 лет назад +128

    I'm so intrigued by the aesthetic and limitations of older websites. Even when they look awful, the charm is unmistakable while every modern site feels like an apple store, selling me stuff at every turn.

    • @NaldinhoGX
      @NaldinhoGX Год назад +3

      Back when the internet was managed and kept alive by the users themselves with little to no corporation influencing any interaction. Today, everything's polluted because the users no longer have control over it - we let others "do the job" for us just for the sake of convenience; therefore, like you mentioned, the internet now feels like an infinite advertisements playground where creativity is killed more and more every day.

  • @damian9303
    @damian9303 5 лет назад +291

    That's kinda sad to see people who ran those sites say 'BE PATIENT I'M WORKING ON IT' yet a final product was never made

  • @BvousBrainSystems
    @BvousBrainSystems 5 лет назад +1902

    Of all the videos sponsored by Squarespace, they really should have sponsored this one

    • @daniele9209
      @daniele9209 5 лет назад +137

      They basically said that all the new websites sucks because thanks to programs like squarespace they all look alike.
      How does this sounds like a good marketing campaign to you?

    • @yudikurina1871
      @yudikurina1871 5 лет назад +15

      you didnt watch through the whole video Bvous :/

    • @technopoptart
      @technopoptart 5 лет назад

      @@daniele9209 yes.

    • @Toxodos
      @Toxodos 5 лет назад +4

      that's a major point, even if you cut out the explicit mention, it's pretty much implied

    • @opus53waldstein70
      @opus53waldstein70 5 лет назад +4

      I wish to have also recording archives of RUclips before 2010s, because all I hear now is excessive uptalk -_-

  • @hasztagpuasko9349
    @hasztagpuasko9349 5 лет назад +722

    the conclusion is - Yahoo destroys the internet. First they bought geocities to close it down and then tumblr to ruin it~

    • @Cheezburgercatz
      @Cheezburgercatz 5 лет назад +83

      hasztagpułasko large companies destroy everything by buying IPs and services they have no intention of maintaining or caring about for the user base. Instead cutting it off after it stops being a zero effort money farm or the ads they load it with don’t work for revenue bc everyone’s broke or the service should be free lol

    • @GeorgiaOverdrive
      @GeorgiaOverdrive 5 лет назад +10

      Excuse me, what is this Yahoo?

    • @ItsBrendo
      @ItsBrendo 5 лет назад +17

      Honey, tumblr was ruined long before Yahoo acquired it.

    • @sentrysapper45
      @sentrysapper45 5 лет назад +18

      It's not just Yahoo: Google, Viacom, Warner Bros...pretty much all tech and media giants share the blame in this. Just look at what happened here on RUclips after Google bought it out. I have an old account I made back in 2006, and the Favorites playlist is a video graveyard from deleted channels, many of which fell victim to spurious copyright strikes from entities like WMG. Meanwhile Google did and still does practically nothing to stop it while their anti-consumer algorithms strangle the once-vibrant creativity and expressiveness of early RUclips.
      Big business in conjunction with government officials they've bought out are slowly turning the internet into a sterile, corporate-friendly hellscape. Things are only going to get worse with recent developments like the end of net neutrality here in the US and Article 13 in the EU. Now more than ever preservation of the early internet is essential, as its freewheeling, almost anarchic ways might just provide the solutions we need.

    • @AsphaltAntelope
      @AsphaltAntelope 5 лет назад +5

      @@ItsBrendo Babe, it wasn't. Just because you didn't like it, doesn't mean that it wasn't working well for the communities that thrived there - be they furries or sapio-pan-quasi-sexuals or whatever. It's easy to take the piss out of them but they had a community and a place to group together and it worked well for them. Fuck Yahoo. They killed Flickr too. How the fuck can you kill Flickr?

  • @marcusatiusvirilis7723
    @marcusatiusvirilis7723 5 лет назад +88

    The internet may have been much simpler, but there was a better mindset. You weren't only a user, you were a builder. It was decentralized and mostly anonymous. I think we should bring back this stuff or at least the mentality.

    • @ruggjay
      @ruggjay 5 лет назад +3

      be the change you want to see

    • @bluex217
      @bluex217 Год назад +6

      It was also a goldmine for freelancing frontend developers. Nowadays, small and even medium sized businesses opt for a FB page and have much less need for a website

    • @forestjohnson7474
      @forestjohnson7474 11 месяцев назад +1

      I 2nd that

  • @draizze8329
    @draizze8329 5 лет назад +111

    Ah, geocities. I remembered making own personal page after learning HTML. It's like decorating your own room then show it off to friends.

  • @WarpedBlinds
    @WarpedBlinds 5 лет назад +408

    The old internet was more personal. Today's internet just feels like a giant ad :/

    • @kosmique
      @kosmique 5 лет назад +66

      because thats basically what it is now. just cookie cutter bullshit for the masses because big corps need us lemmings fed with their shit day in and day out. the internet used to be the best escape one could have... now you get ran out by the toxic scum thats everywhere. it went mainstream, and turned into shit once too many people got connected.
      in the 90s people were sharing something special. its just a dumpsterfire now.

    • @ukkomies100
      @ukkomies100 5 лет назад

      This

    • @shin-ishikiri-no
      @shin-ishikiri-no 5 лет назад +2

      @@kosmique Not enuff upvotes.

    • @JosipMiller
      @JosipMiller 4 года назад

      So true. I remember my first website, devoted to music and audio. I n every part of that website people can feel YOU speaking about things.

    • @kylehill3643
      @kylehill3643 4 года назад +5

      Smartphone mindset! They mostly do shopping. When smartphones first came out I'll never forget the ads of teenage girls holding them and scrolling fast to their favorite shopping sites. That favors over personalism. We are under 'crapitalism'.

  • @japzone
    @japzone 5 лет назад +145

    And now Flash is being retired in a year, breaking even more stuff from the 2000s. Tons of old Flash games and animations especially. Thankfully BlueMaxima's FlashPoint is scrambling to archive it all, but it'll still just be a drop in the bucket.

    • @xanescent
      @xanescent 5 лет назад +5

      japzone I’m actually downloading as many old games as I can from my childhood that were flash games. Although I can’t get everything, and many have already been deleted :(

    • @japzone
      @japzone 5 лет назад +6

      @@toad8840 Browsers are dropping support for Flash because it's a security risk. The plugin APIs that Flash uses have pretty much been retired already, and the only reason Flash still works is because browser makers made short-term concessions to it in order to ease the transition. Flash really isn't necessary anymore, it's just that there's still a ton of legacy content that's floating out there. It's not a problem that could be solved with a petition. You'd be better off just doing what you can to support things like Archive.org and BlueMaxima's FlashPoint.

    • @litjellyfish
      @litjellyfish 5 лет назад +4

      toad adobe? It has nothing to do with adobe. It’s google / chrome who is deprecating the support of automatic flash embedding.
      And of course since Adobe knew this they discontinued their evolution of flash.
      Instead flash as a forward is now called adobe Animate and outputs HTLM5.
      So you can make the same stuff with flash today and run it without a flash player.
      This happened like 5 years ago...
      Now it’s the official deprecation happening. It’s done. You are a little late with your petition. About 5 year late :)

    • @WindowsEater
      @WindowsEater 5 лет назад +6

      RIP Everybody Edits, Possibly Newgrounds, and most likely *EVERY **_SINGLE_* flash gaming site there is/was.

    • @moochincrawdad
      @moochincrawdad 5 лет назад +1

      Does anyone know how to download "Capoeira Fighter 3" so it'll run standalone?

  • @kaibaCorpHQ
    @kaibaCorpHQ 5 лет назад +196

    That's what I hate about FaceBook the most today, I hated FB back then for it, and I still hate it for it today (and other numerous privacy reasons aswell more recently); FB was stale, it was white and blue, and no personality, Myspace was the opposite of that, so customizable and yet uniform is what won out.

    • @ian_b
      @ian_b 5 лет назад +9

      OS's are the same. The Win 10 interface isn't as awful looking as Win 8, but I am still mystified as to why they think it's more stylish to be unable to tell where one window ends and another one starts.

    • @ella1135
      @ella1135 5 лет назад +25

      And an awful uniform. I think Facebook looks so messy and ugly. No personality at all

    • @bilbo_gamers6417
      @bilbo_gamers6417 5 лет назад +5

      @@ian_b XP and 7 had a different kind of feel to them.

    • @ian_b
      @ian_b 5 лет назад

      @@bilbo_gamers6417 I liked Win 7, but with the classic Start Menu added back in. Much of what they've taken out was to make the interface run on low end devices and small screens, and they stripped out most of the customisation. I still resent (on 10) having such limited colour choices.

    • @BSIII
      @BSIII 5 лет назад +6

      @@ian_b exactly. I couldnt understand why everyone was flocking over to a flavorless, sterile, datamining site like facebook from the customizable myspace. The fact that I couldnt upload my music straight to facebook like my myspace, made me stay away for a while. Buuuttt, i eventually made a fb to find my sister, who i havent heard from in years, and myspace died... i still regret making my fb. I hate that platform. When i stopped logging on, it started sending me updates through my text messages, which i never asked them to do. Fb is a DARPA project, called 'lifelog' re-branded as facebook. Look that one up

  • @infesticon
    @infesticon 5 лет назад +236

    The white backgrounds really suck though, Like staring at a goddamm lightbulb. I do miss how personal websites used to be. Geocities was great.

    • @infesticon
      @infesticon 5 лет назад +1

      @@toad8840 Give me some tips where to look dude.

    • @shaggypoo4120
      @shaggypoo4120 5 лет назад +3

      @@infesticon neocities

    • @infesticon
      @infesticon 5 лет назад +2

      @@shaggypoo4120 nice one thank you.

    • @electron8262
      @electron8262 5 лет назад +2

      @@shaggypoo4120 Yessss! Thanks for the tip!

    • @catcatdeluxe1332
      @catcatdeluxe1332 5 лет назад +1

      @@shaggypoo4120 yeah i use that

  • @spiderliliez
    @spiderliliez 5 лет назад +244

    AHAAHHAHAA... I was one of those people who created those crazy cluttered websites back in the late 90s, complete with distracting button GIFs. I think it was uploaded at Angelfire or Geocities. I remember my first website was a fansite about a Brazilian volleyball player who plays at the Women's Grand Prix. I wish I had saved those html files. I dunno where they went now!

    • @mancerrss
      @mancerrss 5 лет назад +4

      Thank you for influencing the current internet culture we have now, that back then was ridiculed is a shame, now it's mainstream!!

    • @spiderliliez
      @spiderliliez 5 лет назад +5

      @Christian William yes, oh my word... IKR? Oh the golden days of the internet, hahahah.. Oh and the Brazilian player was Leila Barros... ahahahah!

    • @notinuse926
      @notinuse926 5 лет назад +1

      @@spiderliliez oh she's a senator now and she's causing quite an uproar with the gamer community saying that games aren't sports (e-sports i mean)

    • @crnkmnky
      @crnkmnky 5 лет назад +2

      @@notinuse926 😯 ooh, edgy. Hopefully that discussion didn't get _too_ vicious, and hopefully the senator was able to observe real e-sports competitors to inform her opinion.

    • @spiderliliez
      @spiderliliez 5 лет назад

      @Christian William ahahahaha.. actually i am not in the US. The Women's Grand Prix Tour use to frequent Asian countries in the late 90s. I remember watching Brazil VS. Cuba, and it was so intense! And Leila was sooo adorable with her short hair back then (she is still gorgeous until now). I met her and Ricarda Lima quite a few times during their tour!! The Brazilian team was warm and friendly, I remember that. And, yes!!! I heard about her being a Senator now! I'm very very happy for her!!! Are you from Brazil?!!

  • @JayFGrissom
    @JayFGrissom 5 лет назад +159

    Wow... this made me realize how much I miss this (angelfire, geocities, altavista, dialup bbs, aol, junos, etc...) weirdness of my youth.
    Great video.
    Sigh. I feel super nostalgic now.

    • @junelynn63
      @junelynn63 5 лет назад +2

      Angelfire made me attempt to learn html

    • @RealIllumin
      @RealIllumin 5 лет назад +3

      Ah Altavista... How I loved thee!
      Best search engine ever.
      Until you know who bought and killed it.

    • @JayFGrissom
      @JayFGrissom 5 лет назад +2

      @@RealIllumin - In hindsight they could have called it "Ya-HALT-avista". Yahoo's approach to halt the competition.

    • @RealIllumin
      @RealIllumin 5 лет назад +2

      @@JayFGrissom Agreed, "broke" my internet heart back in the day when it went downhill.
      Never used anything Yahoo since.

    • @ilhaanf663
      @ilhaanf663 3 года назад +2

      Altavista, that was our Google back then. You're taking me back, back to my teen years

  • @Bruno-qw8gl
    @Bruno-qw8gl 5 лет назад +30

    Goodbye, flash player, you made the childhood for many

  • @lidette711
    @lidette711 5 лет назад +81

    My last HTML school web design project was a site for my favorite manga. Damn, those were the days.

  • @ChristianJiang
    @ChristianJiang 5 лет назад +199

    2:23 Dragon, but with an “A”
    Me: Wait, “Dragon” already has an “A”!

  • @setsuro.splice
    @setsuro.splice 5 лет назад +20

    my sentiments exactly. websites these days lacks any... personal touch. I miss the late 1990s and early 2000s. sighhh, good times, good times.

  • @dualshock3462
    @dualshock3462 5 лет назад +17

    I don't miss only the early 00s style, I miss the state of the internet of the early 00s. Back then you could use the internet in internet cafe where you had to pay for using it or at home only with computer and some of them were limited (some people couldn't use the phone and internet at the same time) so you could control your "addiction" by just leaving the house and visit clubs, cafes, malls and other places that don't have internet cafe. Today every place has wi-fi, you can't visit places to hang out and talk to normal people anymore, internet connection is everywhere and everybody has phones that fit in their pocket so they are online 24/7. Even people who couldn't 10 years ago use a computer let alone use the internet are now on social media 24/7 thanks to wi-fi and smartphones. Internet was in the early 00s a magical place, today it became a drug for everybody

  • @cyberponiez
    @cyberponiez 5 лет назад +41

    I love the old internet so much. I’m too young to have experienced it in its prime, so I’ve been using Neocities. I’ve been able to make my own 90s-esque website and be in a community of people doing the same thing!

    • @cyberponiez
      @cyberponiez 5 лет назад +12

      that being said - use neocities! it’s perfect!

    • @heartrockingcity
      @heartrockingcity 5 месяцев назад

      I agree, but it is mostly middle web (2000s), but anyways still classified as early web

  • @papasmurfsmurfy6360
    @papasmurfsmurfy6360 5 лет назад +54

    The same thing happened to film 100 years ago. At least something is happening about it this time.

    • @im.empimp
      @im.empimp 5 лет назад

      e.g. Dr. Who ˚‧º·(˚ ˃̣̣̥᷄⌓˂̣̣̥᷅ )‧º·˚

    • @tornadomimicyclone6707
      @tornadomimicyclone6707 4 года назад +1

      Not to mention Always Online DRM, which leads to games getting nuked when that shouldn't be the case.

  • @ladymecha8718
    @ladymecha8718 5 лет назад +53

    I had a geocities page, and it was special to me. I still have my website backed up on my computer. I do miss the citizenship it had and gave you.

    • @SleepingCocoon
      @SleepingCocoon 5 лет назад +16

      reupload it to neocities!

    • @FarrFromPerfect
      @FarrFromPerfect 5 лет назад +1

      I used to have my winamp playlist on one. It was live updated once a week. I miss that.

  • @azazellon
    @azazellon 5 лет назад +32

    My uncle threw away a Windows 95 For Dummies book, I just liked reading about the early internet terms and like, stumbling around the net.

    • @cavejohnson4306
      @cavejohnson4306 5 лет назад

      I think the original space jam website is still up, so if you want to see a still working website from 1996 try to find it.

    • @robobox7595
      @robobox7595 4 года назад +1

      I have that book, there is little about the internet execpt for info about HyperTerminal and MSN.

    • @azazellon
      @azazellon 4 года назад

      @@robobox7595 yeah it was basically "how to use a computer" in 1995

    • @Josephwilliemrice
      @Josephwilliemrice 3 года назад

      @@cavejohnson4306 i tried to go to it recently, now its just a website for the new space jam movie.

  • @avatarmary
    @avatarmary 5 лет назад +36

    Reminds me of in the 90s and early 00s when I'd look at sailor moon and ronin warriors stuff online...good times

  • @eklim2034
    @eklim2034 5 лет назад +64

    internet was meant to level playing field, it was not meant for high concentration of power into very few players, let's hope internet 2.0 blockchain technology would help realising internet's original purpose

    • @litjellyfish
      @litjellyfish 5 лет назад +4

      EK Lim nope it was just a medium. That evolved. And with that comercial thinking entered. Like in all other mediums.

    • @TorreFernand
      @TorreFernand 5 лет назад +1

      the "Web 2.0" moniker refers to... the comments section
      Web 3.0 just means more metadata (i.e. web pages being written more for search engines than for humans)

  • @Aerynvala
    @Aerynvala 4 года назад +9

    That was fun, seeing my old GeoCities site in this. And I'm glad people are archiving the web.

  • @Matando
    @Matando 5 лет назад +161

    Holy crap... I'm only 26 yet this video made me feel so OLD! I remember all of this.... Oof

    • @UltraNyan
      @UltraNyan 5 лет назад +11

      You sound like 16

    • @sebastiansanchez2776
      @sebastiansanchez2776 5 лет назад +5

      You look like an egg

    • @supasempai
      @supasempai 5 лет назад +3

      Same here, but aside from website, MIRC, Yahoo Messenger, damn it, back then, the web was very personalize and literally sociable

    • @drewtheartists8479
      @drewtheartists8479 5 лет назад +1

      I’m 18 so I can’t remember the earlier internet or the 90s

    • @Matando
      @Matando 5 лет назад +4

      @@supasempai I've logged into BBS via a phone line. This predated the internet...... Oof

  • @mat2468xk
    @mat2468xk 5 лет назад +186

    I know it's not that old, but I mostly miss the culture and mindset of the 2007 - 2013 internet era. The "lol random epic win xD" culture back then was honestly endearing, and I feel like the memes were mostly focused on having fun. I like the improvements on the internet in general nowadays, and I still like some of the memes. Maybe I was too young to understand, but I feel like people were much "nicer" in that era.The sheer amounts of edgelords in social media is honestly just exhausting to look at already. Sure, there were edgy content in that era, but I feel like it's fewer or at least harder to find (i.e. you have to dig deeper into certain sites). That, and I'm pretty sure some of them weren't too hostile (some of the memes now are straight to the point harassment).
    Well, at least the screamers disappeared. That's one thing I don't miss from the 2007 - 2013 internet era, lmao. So glad for that.

    • @WulfLovelace
      @WulfLovelace 5 лет назад +29

      I have to agree with the sentiment. It felt like the internet was much nicer back then as well. I didn't feel like I had to defend myself against countless shitlords and edge masters as I do today. Online now adays feels - I don't know how it got this bad. But I been playing online games since online games existed. People were much nicer in MMOs for example, someone would walk up to you and be like, you're new lemme show you what you need to do. Where as I started an MMO in todays culture and you aren't greeted by a random stranger just helping you out, you just meet people on the chatbox telling you to "git gud" and you're like....okay thanks I guess. Or for example the fighting game community I find atrocious and bars people of different skill levels because of the git gud cultures. How this applies online is Discord and VC online is just kind of toxic.

    • @q_q123
      @q_q123 5 лет назад +15

      I agree so much to this. I miss saying "rawr XD", "yolo swag", or "trololol". The internet had personality and was actually fun. Now it's just toxic.

    • @kosmique
      @kosmique 5 лет назад +7

      people were much nicer back then, the internet was more special ...now everybody just has it , even the dumb people ;)

    • @connors3356
      @connors3356 5 лет назад +6

      I wholeheartedly agree man. Im not nostalgic for anything, but there definitely was a shift in 2014-15 in the internet. Everything ebbs and flows I guess

    • @danielsjohnson
      @danielsjohnson 5 лет назад +5

      I think one of the reasons why the early internet, and to a lesser extent the 2007-2013 era, had less edgelords was because the barrier to entry was higher. People were on the internet because they wanted to be, they knew how to, and had some specific purpose. Today, being online is the default way of life for most people. Being the default, naturally, means you get more low quality junk than if being offline was the default.

  • @gkv633
    @gkv633 5 лет назад +19

    Brings back nostalgic memories from 2007 when I first used internet. Everything has changed so much.

    • @FaaduProductions
      @FaaduProductions 5 лет назад

      Do you remember free loop gprs?

    • @joseherrera5264
      @joseherrera5264 5 лет назад

      Same! Though I first was online around 2009. I was 9 at the time :p

    • @litjellyfish
      @litjellyfish 5 лет назад +2

      You should have been around in 1994. They we can talk about things changing

    • @FaaduProductions
      @FaaduProductions 5 лет назад +1

      @@litjellyfish r/gatekeeping

    • @shyguy85
      @shyguy85 4 года назад +1

      @@FaaduProductions lmao ok redditor

  • @drewbocop
    @drewbocop 5 лет назад +12

    Back in the mid to late 90s, my sister who was older than me learned HTML, I learned HTML/CSS at age 8, all my friends began learning to do web dev and we were all webmasters of our own shitty little hand-coded web sites. As kids. I miss those days quite honestly. The nostalgia is very real and I absolutely commend these people for trying to preserve the old net. It is very important to me and many other people.

  • @MapleMilk
    @MapleMilk 5 лет назад +20

    The early web is its own form of art
    It's got an aesthetic untapped since proto vaporwave

  • @andree1991
    @andree1991 5 лет назад +35

    This is such an important thing to do. They truly are heroes

  • @mind-of-neo
    @mind-of-neo 4 года назад +8

    I LIVE for the 90s cyber aesthetic so it's very important to me for these early internet websites to be preserved so they can be explored and enjoyed forever.

  • @renee1390
    @renee1390 5 лет назад +30

    “Then they got married..... to each other”
    Oh my god they were roommates

  • @zotac1018
    @zotac1018 5 лет назад +85

    Hey, there is this website called as the internet archive please go and check that out if you are interested.
    It has been doing the stuff they are talking about here for years now.

  • @WebGoonie
    @WebGoonie 5 лет назад +14

    Be sure to sign my Guest Book!
    I miss these days. Websites took forever to load but dang was it worth it.

    • @kylehill3643
      @kylehill3643 4 года назад +1

      Guest book page not found! Whoops! :)

  • @wayfarerzen
    @wayfarerzen 5 лет назад +4

    Archiveteam, you guys are heroes. This is so much more important than a lot of people realize.

  • @konstantingeist3587
    @konstantingeist3587 5 лет назад +15

    the Internet is becoming more TV-like

    • @tornadomimicyclone6707
      @tornadomimicyclone6707 4 года назад +3

      Actually, it's going on the same route as ITV: From a bunch of regions with unique identities to one effectively homogenized look.

  • @susiemurray8599
    @susiemurray8599 5 лет назад +6

    im 14 so i never even lived in the 90s but this makes me feel a strange sense of nostalgia for a life ill never live

  • @MikeDragon
    @MikeDragon 5 лет назад +4

    I've been a user of the early web. Connecting via dial-up on a Pentium III late at night because it was cheaper and less likely that someone would use the phone to make or receive a call, wait several hours to download an MP3, chat with friends on MSN Messenger under Windows 98, ME and 2000 on a 15" CRT monitor, making backups on 1.44MB floppy disks, playing games off of CD-ROMs for countless hours, waiting several minutes for a site to load, spending hours doing image searches on Internet Explorer 5... Good times. Good memories. :')

  • @alejandraesquer155
    @alejandraesquer155 5 лет назад +7

    Who else used to visit cartoon doll geocities websites in the early oughts? Drag-n-drop dollmakers, blinkies,tagboards? THIS is what we did as pre-teens. Learn to draw pixel kawaii poo on ms paint long before it became main stream...meet other pre-teen girls on forums dedicated to said cute graphics. ;~; miss those times.

  • @tonykuchar3237
    @tonykuchar3237 5 лет назад +11

    if you're into mid-late 90s internet culture and aesthetics you gotta play the game Hypnospace Outlaw

  • @muglymae7408
    @muglymae7408 5 лет назад +5

    i miss seeing the old geocities, angelfire, and tripod hosted sites. they made going on the Internet exciting and an adventure

  • @VITORB82
    @VITORB82 5 лет назад +2

    OMG the nostalgia... these years made me want to be a web developer...so much freedom. I miss thise days. Will investigate more this project.

  • @ninja_raven256
    @ninja_raven256 5 лет назад +3

    For anyone wanting to replicate the days of old, use neocities. The whole point of that website is to bring back nostalgia for old web trends and to be able to make your own stuff.

  • @RudieObias
    @RudieObias 5 лет назад +11

    I remember when you had to dial into the internet and if you didn't have a dedicated phone line, no one in your house could make or receive calls. We also all didn't have smartphones or even cell phones back then either. You'd have to hope you weren't going to get an important phone call when you were online back in the '90s.

    • @Qznews
      @Qznews  5 лет назад +3

      Ah yes! Some of us at Quartz remember the 'cool' friends with a second phone line just for the internet.

    • @RudieObias
      @RudieObias 5 лет назад +2

      @@Qznews Also, all websites should bring back guestbooks. Haha!

    • @Qznews
      @Qznews  5 лет назад +1

      Wonderful suggestion! LOL!!!

    • @nowthatsjustducky
      @nowthatsjustducky 4 года назад

      Actually, they could make outgoing calls. All they had to do was pick up the phone to knock you offline, hang up, then pick it up again. :)

    • @nowthatsjustducky
      @nowthatsjustducky 4 года назад

      @@Qznews Remember how that newfangled phone feature known as Call Waiting would kill your connection? And back then, even if you did have a dedicated second line, those telemarketers and robocallers could not tell the difference between a line being used for voice and one for data, so your dedicated line was just as vulnerable to being called by these early parasites as your voice line.
      Fortunately, I think it was *70 before the phone number that disabled call waiting. No idea nowadays.

  • @FAB1150
    @FAB1150 5 лет назад +10

    And this is why Quartz will never be sponsored by squarespace again

  • @ingframin
    @ingframin 4 года назад +4

    What I miss the most was the content. Nowadays, people are obsessed with the “attention span” and do not write a lot of actual content anymore. Also, I remember that there were way less ads. Now you need to dig into the ads to find what you are looking for. The last thing that I miss is the discovery. Now people are tracked and only gets presented what an algorithm wants them to see. Back then there was more exploration freedom.

  • @AamirBilal
    @AamirBilal 5 лет назад +19

    "Very short period of my life when I was making fun." Sums up my life. 01:12

  • @nasranruwaidi
    @nasranruwaidi 5 лет назад +7

    My first web page was hosted on Tripod.
    Best viewed with Netscape Navigator. 😃

  • @erikdallas8644
    @erikdallas8644 4 года назад +1

    Thank you so very much for the wonderful video. You brought back so many memories. I don't know what we are supposed to do now. The internet is a very different place.

  • @jamestheminorbender4978
    @jamestheminorbender4978 5 лет назад +6

    Vaporwave aesthetics or Anything related to aesthetics will surely save this piece of beauty

  • @summysums
    @summysums 5 лет назад +2

    Really hope that people are working to properly save flash games. Those things are a gem that I always come back to ❤️

  • @Luischocolatier
    @Luischocolatier 5 лет назад +2

    I remember this website I used to access when I was a little kid, like 5 or 6 years old. It was called something like Serena1 and it had little flash games with gifs, all of them with holiday or vacation themes like Christmas, Halloween, Easter, Summer... You usually had cities to build and you did that by picking from the gifs on the lower half of the srceen and dragging them up to the upper half, arranging them how you wanted. I especially loved the Halloween city.
    I tried to look for it a couple years ago, but it had disappeared.

  • @Btvstudio
    @Btvstudio 5 лет назад +2

    I love these 2! I remember learning HTML 2.0 to make my own websites in the 90's.

  • @AfkaSound
    @AfkaSound 5 лет назад +9

    God bless my childhood, filled with dragonballz animations and geocities

  • @CS-nw9si
    @CS-nw9si 5 лет назад +2

    I taught myself basic HTML on the Nickelodeon message boards when I was a kid. Flash going away now makes me so sad. I miss the early Internet so much.

  • @xIzephael
    @xIzephael 5 лет назад +17

    Let's face it, we may fantasize on the feeling of personality personal web pages had, but if someone would make a personal site today, you would not log into it as frequently as you did back then.
    We all stay confined to our main big sites and social medias, and the other ones are there for you to find an information and then be forgotten.

    • @Qznews
      @Qznews  5 лет назад +6

      This is true, not only has the look of the internet changed - but also the way we use the internet.

    • @AverageGuy2002
      @AverageGuy2002 5 лет назад

      Don't worry Google won't exist(probably) in next 100 years

    • @LongWaster
      @LongWaster 2 месяца назад +1

      this is part of what makes neocities great - you can follow a website and it will let you know when the owner edits it.

  • @TheStarBlack
    @TheStarBlack 5 лет назад +1

    I remember building an angelfire page in the late 90s to post photos of our nights out before Facebook or MySpace. Funny thing is, digital cameras were incredibly rare back then so I'd take photos on film then scan them into my PC to upload! Used to take hours now you can do it in seconds on your phone!

  • @90AlmostFamous
    @90AlmostFamous 5 лет назад +19

    Loved the chaos, now we have to confirm to their stupid standards, like youtubes stupid creator manager or something

  • @wannabehistorian371
    @wannabehistorian371 5 лет назад +1

    I was a 2000s kid, so I saw some old-school websites. ...But why does this feel so nostalgic?
    This video has made me miss something I’ve barely experienced.

    • @RealIllumin
      @RealIllumin 5 лет назад

      Because nostalgia goes around in ~20 year cycles. e.g. You can't be (technically) nostalgic for things that are under 10 years old.

  • @ravenphin2406
    @ravenphin2406 5 лет назад +11

    30 years from now I bet that there’ll be digital historians saving the memes from our time 😂

    • @toasterbotnet
      @toasterbotnet 5 лет назад +7

      Datahoarders is the correct nomenclature and we are already on it. Quietly collecting content on our storage servers.

    • @LongTailCat3
      @LongTailCat3 Год назад

      most memes after 2018 arent worth saving

  • @HacksignKT
    @HacksignKT 4 года назад +2

    This honestly hits me hard... back then there were a lot of great sites that had stories for me to read from Tenchi Muyo to Pokemon but now they are all gone. :c

  • @Me-rd7po
    @Me-rd7po 5 лет назад +4

    When I was 8 I learned html and made my website. It was a totally chatic site. I put cats pics , pink buttons , a pink meniu bar and a pastel pink search bar.
    I forgot the name but I would love to see it again.

  • @OneyButtwillies
    @OneyButtwillies 2 года назад +12

    Im a constant and avid web archivist, and knowing there are people like me saving rare things from the deep pits of the internet is so relieving and amazingly helpful. Like if something goes down, theres always a chance a datahoarder out there has what youre looking for.

  • @dyrr836
    @dyrr836 4 месяца назад

    These two are heroes, god bless them and their work. Keep fighting the good fight! All of us who lived this era thank you, as long as we all keep the spirit of the vintage web preserved it will NEVER truly be gone.

  • @jamestheminorbender4978
    @jamestheminorbender4978 5 лет назад +10

    My obsession with aethetics and old stuffs is quacking right now.

  • @danielsjohnson
    @danielsjohnson 5 лет назад +1

    If anyone is wondering, the anime at 3:21-3:23 was "Fushigi Yuugi: The Mysterious Play".

  • @ethan82714
    @ethan82714 5 лет назад +22

    At least my HTML and CSS skills look old style. Because I'm bad at HTML and CSS.

    • @Inseut
      @Inseut 5 лет назад +2

      Same!

    • @AhnafAbdullah
      @AhnafAbdullah 5 лет назад +1

      Same,that's what I was taught at school

  • @Sugar735
    @Sugar735 5 лет назад +1

    Oh and having pages.and pages of adoptables, which were just pictures you put on your site. I'd look for hours and set up at my little pics and gifs, and buttons like "I love pizza" "cat person" all those kinds of things. I miss those 😭

  • @bryanpedrosa8061
    @bryanpedrosa8061 5 лет назад +6

    I don't know but I like old web page designs. It's my AEsthetic.

  • @FirestormDDash
    @FirestormDDash 5 лет назад +4

    Honestly i always enjoyed the animated gifs of that day.
    Also losing all of my StumbleUpon sites was a big hit too.

  • @Your3rdBETRAYAL
    @Your3rdBETRAYAL 5 лет назад +8

    I just want to be able to customize the ever living hell out of my profiles

  • @lisaishere0919
    @lisaishere0919 5 лет назад +2

    Dame reminds me so much of those computer class in the early 2000s. Wondering what kids (the net native) are doing today in school computer class...

  • @zinAab79
    @zinAab79 6 месяцев назад +3

    I love internet, I know is old and unusable, but it was honest and manually crafted by people, now with all experts and templates it all feels perfect and profesionally done, all blogs look the same, similar happens with new pages, all of them asking you to log in with your gmail account, is boring. Old webs were just a mistery into the mind of the creators, entering a new section felt like really entering a new space designed for it, it was fun to grow on these times.

  • @MrCornWolf
    @MrCornWolf 5 лет назад +2

    I remember making a geocities for this DBZ chat room rpg type game we used to play. It was a gaudy horrendous mess but it was my mess lol. Anyone else remember the DragonBall game it went like this typing
    ::charging::,
    ::finalflash::,
    etc and rolling virtual dice for damage and dodges and all. Great times and it actually helped my typing greatly

  • @smappdooda
    @smappdooda 5 лет назад +3

    I recently did a "website retrospective" video of all of my websites since 1998 and I had to recreate my very first website that was on Tripod. I was a little sad I couldn't find it archived anywhere.

  • @BryanTan
    @BryanTan 5 лет назад +4

    The video game Hypnospace Outlaw does a great job at nailing the 90s Geocities vibes, but in an alternate universe where people can browse the Web while sleeping.

    • @Qznews
      @Qznews  5 лет назад +3

      Ever dream you were searching the web or filling out spreadsheets on the computer?

    • @BryanTan
      @BryanTan 5 лет назад +1

      That'll probably be a sign that I was way overworked 😅
      Now that I think about it, the netizens of Hypnospace Outlaw weren't seen to do jobs in Hypnospace, apart from some advertising their services. Only the admin staff + enforcers (which you are part of) are actually on the clock. Makes sense that the last thing you'd want to do in your dreams is more mundane work/school stuff
      May be worth your while giving the game a try! It really bundles up a lot of the 90s Internet into a tight package - the music, the animated gifs, the young & old netizens bumbling through web design, etc. Intriguing main storyline peppered with the ongoing live stories of the citizens of Hypnospace.

  • @mittelego1098
    @mittelego1098 10 месяцев назад +4

    The old internet was so much better. Everything has been commercialized nowadays.

  • @hhthoj
    @hhthoj 5 лет назад +2

    I would love to see a distributed version of this project, IPFS for example. It will both promote the use of distributed file storage and gain community more contribution to it, as well as archiving the early web.

  • @frogsfoot
    @frogsfoot Год назад +4

    it’s sad to see everyone mourning the indie web when it’s still out there! places like neocities (a geocities revival project) are a great springboard for finding people who still treat the internet like a blank canvas. you can make a bad website too! everyone i’ve met there has been so friendly and willing to help people with a limited knowledge of html coding! the best way to prevent something from disappearing is to make more of it!

  • @AprilTee
    @AprilTee 5 лет назад +1

    I've been following this Tumblr and I had no idea that it was part of a huge project.

  • @dhsghdhsbd
    @dhsghdhsbd 5 лет назад +6

    I didn't really get to experience the early web because i was born in 2006
    Im making a webcomic with the late 90's/early 2000's web look and feel so me and other people like me can feel what it's like to be in the world wide web
    I'm still at school obviously so I don't have much time to learn about the early web but im sure I'll learn a lot
    I make 2009 quality flash animations too on my channel
    it's not that great but it looks cool for me

  • @BothHands1
    @BothHands1 5 лет назад +33

    Aww i miss geocities. The old internet was awesome, with Newgrounds and StarCraft and Napster
    I miss it for sure. But definitely, i think the internet is better now. But it's also more addictive, that everyone's always on their phones. Idk lol

  • @ybot1
    @ybot1 5 лет назад +5

    these websites look like ones we created in secondary school as we were learning how to create html sites using code

  • @asky_2759
    @asky_2759 5 лет назад +6

    Most of the anime pages I found had some sort of fanfiction... I guess people liked lemons just as much as we do

  • @YounRangr
    @YounRangr 5 лет назад +11

    Thank you for saving Geocities 🙏✌🏽

  • @ak47marx16
    @ak47marx16 Месяц назад

    I found a copy of my first 1997 website on a floppy disk a couple years back. I was so happy that for some reason I saved it as a kid.

  • @Negentropy.
    @Negentropy. 5 лет назад +3

    Double uploads are the best uploads! What what

  • @Big-Chungus21
    @Big-Chungus21 9 месяцев назад

    Almost every website you visit nowadays is beautifully designed, and has decades of research of psychology and art behind it, making it as navigatable and pleasing on the eyes as possible.
    Old websites kind of let you appreciate how much effort goes into the average website nowadays, but its also just fun. I do kind of wish more people made their own websites.

  • @DavidWonn
    @DavidWonn 5 лет назад +3

    I really miss the mid-1990s WWW. You could do a net search on almost any topic and browse all results in a reasonable time. For instance, searching "Mario Kart" had less than 30 results. Additionally ads were nearly non-existent, and pages weren’t very bloated. They had to be simple because nearly everyone was on dial-up.
    Yahoo buying geocities in the late 90s was the beginning of the end of the Golden Age of the Internet. They invented the pop-ups and watermarks that would plague users for many years (though disabling JavaScript helped.) Sure, we’ve had RUclips since the mid-2000s, so everything is a tradeoff, but I do wish at times I could trade it all to go back a couple decades.

    • @Dumb_Killjoy
      @Dumb_Killjoy 11 месяцев назад

      I'm pretty sure it was Tripod that invented popup ads

  • @davdjimenez1150
    @davdjimenez1150 5 лет назад +21

    Loved this vid, shame more didn’t appreciate it

    • @Qznews
      @Qznews  5 лет назад +6

      We appreciate you appreciating our cool internet vid! Thanks for watching!

  • @eris4734
    @eris4734 5 лет назад +4

    I saw this video, and I was like, hey I know some basic html. I could make a website. Now I'm working on one. I'll probably give up on it in a few months, but it's just a fun project. I'm not trying to recreate any style or anything, just trying to make a place that's personal, and where I can put interesting stuff.
    I wasn't even alive during the 90's. I have no idea what that era was like. But I do enjoy having control and customization options over as much as possible. Maybe I should have done this a while ago.

  • @vibekei
    @vibekei 5 лет назад +2

    seeing the oneterabyteofkilobyteage url was like whiplash to me bc ive been following that blog for so long, was Not expecting tht at all

  • @occultbass
    @occultbass 5 лет назад +5

    this made me so sad :( i miss the old internet it was so cool

  • @ww21943
    @ww21943 5 лет назад +1

    I miss this internet. There are still a few gems out there.

  • @eve36368
    @eve36368 5 лет назад +6

    This reminds me of trying anthropology & trying to save endangered languages.

    • @Qznews
      @Qznews  5 лет назад +1

      You should watch our video on saving the Icelandic language; ruclips.net/video/xutfcOh4oCg/видео.html

    • @kylehill3643
      @kylehill3643 4 года назад +1

      And they are about as endangered as that 'rare' plant in San Francisco where hundreds of millions were spent on researching so they could fix the Ventura Freeway after it collapsed in 89 only to find out you could get it at any department home improvement store across the bay!

  • @Rudster14
    @Rudster14 5 лет назад +3

    Now I feel nostalgic for my first website 😢