An excellent 5 finger HEMA glove for $150? The Superior Fencing SupFen Impact resistant glove review
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- Опубликовано: 10 июн 2023
- The best five finger HEMA glove for $150? The Superior Fencing SupFen Impact resistant glove. A detailed review of the latest five-finger glove from Superior Fencing (SupFen). The impact resistant gloves are heavily protected gloves designed for use with a variety of different sword types, including both synthetic and steel. Michael and Nick have both tested them extensively with sabres, longswords, greatswords, polearms, and other weapons so you didn't have to.
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SF HEMA Impact Resistant Gloves-HFG0706
Art No#: HFG0706
Price: $150.00 
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A fair review. It looks like a superior product to the THOKK's, especially at this price range. Universal black colour scheme + better protection + appear more durable at first glance + reasonably priced. Very interesting, indeed. The only other HEMA glove out there worth looking at is the Gabriel 2.0.
Sparring Glove Infinity are pretty great for their price range, IMHO.
Pro gauntlets seem on par with Gabriel 2.0, better protection, less durability.
These look great, thank you both for the review. I really want to see more insight on them, and some longer term reviews. But these have already jumped to the top of my buy list
Another excellent indepth review. The new Duo format is more dynamic and i like it very much. Thx again for all the content. Very helpful for the community !
Thanks for the feedback, we’ll do this more going forward.
+1
I've got probably 20 pairs of these for my school and they're a great option for club gear. They can fence almost any weapon system (though I'd caution against heavy longsword sparring, especially for newbies unaccustomed to hand defense) and are perfect for drilling, fit most hands, are comfortable and relatively durable. Now, being club gear, they get beat to shit and we have broken several of the back of hand plates that are supposedly "unbreakable", but they still serve their protective function despite the cracks. We've had no significant injuries in the 2+ months we've been using them across our 50+ students, aside from the moderate bruise here and there typical of any glove.
I personally use these as my go to single stick glove. They work perfect for saber and anything with a complex hilt with great dexterity for various grips. While I'd still say you'd want a heavier glove or sparring glove for longsword, you CAN get away with these if you're good with hand defense. Really, you can't go wrong with them if you've got that caveat in mind.
Kinda wish they weren't such a blatant THOKK rip off but...competition breeds innovation so *shrug*
A more than fair review! I have used them during this year's Hemathlon and they were amazing for sidesword and saber. I'm a bit too fond of my SG mittens when it comes to longsword but I might give them a try
what sabre did you use them with? would they fit into a more closed hilted sabre like an easton mark 3?
Excellent review, thanks for the details. I think the only thing missing from the review is how wide your hands are so we can see how wide our hands are in comparison and whether we'd have the same issues.
My hand is 9cm wide and matched to a Thokk ML. I fought these gloves the same, if not a little looser in M compared to the ML Thokk. As a rule, I wear M gloves.
Most of our fencers were surprised by how generous they were. Those that normally buy L still chose M for the SupFen.
Nice review.🙏🤝
Thanks, much appreciated.
Nice review!
I can say hand protection is top priority for me. I've sustained several hand injuries fencing saber. The guard alone is not enough. 😂
They have an overlay now could there be a long term update and review of the overlay ?
Maybe I can afford to get into HEMA ...
Thanks for the review.
Good armour, good mobility and excellent value for money..... sounds like the T34 of gloves :D
That's fair.
Wow, I've typically liked Supfens stuff, but looked askance at their hand protection. This review really pleasantly surprises me! Please let us know about QC is with the large order?
Very useful, I want new gloves for steel sabre sparring so was considering these. Have you changed your opinion at all after prolonged usage?
These look like the same models as the High Guard gloves Purpleheart Armory has on their site, they don't have them in stock yet though. I wonder if it's just a rebrand? Seem solid though.
I’m not sure, they certainly look similar.
I was thinking the same thing while watching this review!
There's a lot of rebranded superior fencing out there. Several places in the US for sure. And Canada it seems. Yep it's supfen gloves.
@MichealGTHomas Hi, If you look at the supfen glove size chart what hand length do you have? (from wrist to top middlefinger) Just so i have a reference as you have size M but mentioned even L people can fit these? Did you have students with 20cm length (using supfen chart) using M size ?
Hello. Great video. Do you know if there is any way to buy the gloves in Europe with cheaper shipping? Or the only way is to buy them directly from Supfen?
How would you say they compare to the Thokks? It seems like they’re trying to hit the same market at a lower price point, most of my students who have Thokks are pretty happy with them for Sidesword, but this could be a nice, easier on the budget, alternative!
I've got those as soon as they came out. I think they are at least on par with thokk's. Unluckily i fucked up the size and somehow my hand feels strained immediately when using these.
I feel like you could do a hard EVA cover for these like the badass add on for the WeaponMaster gloves from thokk, then you have a glove that does everything except super light complex hilt work.
what's your hand length? and what size should I get?
my hand length is 20cm according to the size chart i should get a L size, or like you said M size fit most of us, thanks.
Any additional thoughts on these gloves after 1 year? Have you tried them with the hard shell overlay the manufacturer offers?
These seem similar to thokks! Would you say that they are similar to them in terms of protection for longsword? A video comparing both gloves would be nice!
I really do like the look of the gloves but I have a few questions- Have you ever used Lacrose Gloves or Hockey Gloves during a sparring session? And as I do a fair amount of stick fighting what style of glove would you recommend for the best all around protection and where do you buy them from? Here in Canada we have very limited choices so any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks!
Yes, we used to use them 20 years ago. As a good middle ground I'd say these or Thokks. Pro Gauntlet or Gabriels for a little more hard layer protection. All are better than lacrose gloves (what the Red Dragons were based on).
@@MichaelGThomas Thanks for the info! I Thank You but more importantly my Hands Thank You ;)
Would you say this glove would fit into Black Fencer synthetic basket hilt sword?
Will you make a comparision video to THOKK gloves or other five finger hema gloves?
We will be filming a comparison between the Thokk, SupFen, ProGauntlet, and sparring glove in the next two weeks.
I think I want a pair of these gloves.
Do it!
My SuperFen Destroyer Modz semi-mitten have been great, even at high level long sword. These look like a great in-between!
I was thinking that myself 🙌
I use Destroyer modz Hands of glory which I absolutely love for full on longsword, even though they receive a lot of hate in some sections of the community
Totally agree I think these look like a great inbetweener 🙏
@@andymason1324 I'm curious, I haven't seen anything on the Hands of Glory, can you point me to something?
My only complaint was the inner glove system noy staying on, which I fixed by just tacking a glove into the gauntlet. But that should be a fix for anyone used to using a clamshell. At this point I suffer more finger injuries climbing than doing longsword.
@@ryenschimerman2127ould love to see some more on the Hands Of Glory. Really hard to find info on any Destroyer Modz kit except the gorget.
How do they compare to Thokk WeaponMaster®Gauntlets "PRO"? What are the main differences you saw?
We will be doing a comparison video of them soon. Short version, the Thokks are a little narrower on the fingers, making them a slightly smaller glove. The SupFens appear to be better constructed though time will tell. They are very close in spec, design, and protection.
We've ordered another 12 pairs.
Would they fit inside a rapier hilt? Obviously they’re overkill for rapier vs rapier but my club likes to do a lot of mixed weapon sparring and this seems like it could be the ideal glove for rapier vs longsword or smallsword vs saber.
No, not likely. They will fit in most sideswords though. Best to test if possible before you buy.
This is hugely dependant on the model of rapier as the variation in hilt space is massive, both from different styles of rapier but also different makers. Black Fencer steel models, yes, Hanwei practical, yes, Darkwood, some models but not all, Kvetun, mostly no, but I haven't tried all models with them. They are of a similar bulk to Red Dragon gloves, so if they fit you will probably be ok.
@@AcademyofHistoricalFencing thanks
Is it possible to review the HF Armory 'Black Night' sabre glove (mitten)?
Already reviewed sometime ago: ruclips.net/video/XyqnuGKF8zo/видео.html
@@MichaelGThomas thanks, but they've a new style out that appear to be scaled down for sabres and such.
@@chrismorgan1336 Can you give me a link?
What about a sabre halfbasket? Would these fit in a Kvetun Easton mk.III, or a VB, Poker, etc.?
I'll check and get back to you.
Asking myself the same question, on my experience Thokk are a bit to big to fit those saber guards confortably. And i'm looking for something with the same level of protection as the SupFen Impact resistant glove to replace my olds red dragons.
Depends on which maker/model as they vary a lot, but I (Nick) have been using these size medium Thokk gloves with Kvetun Easton Mkiii and they work fine. The last pokers I had were a little smaller in the bowl and so red dragon was snug but worked, so would be on the fence. None of us have VB sabres to test.
@@AcademyofHistoricalFencing Nick, this is the SupFen Impact Resistant review :D
They fit the Easton MKIII just fine as well the Poker one. Haven't had VB but I would image it fitting without any issues.
Would these fit comfortably inside an easton mark 3?
The medium size that we have works fine yes, we have been using that combo regularly.
would this work for steel longsword?
I have a pair and will never use them for full speed steel longsword sparring. At the most, light to medium intensity sparring with people you trust and who keep it clean.
How do they compare to Thokks? Seems like that's what they're suppose to be a copy of.
We will be filming a comparison between the Thokk, SupFen, ProGauntlet, and sparring glove in the next two weeks.
Great review and yeah looking forward to a comparison review as it seems this is a more favourable review than with the recent Thokk gloves one, even if that was a long term review which we won't be able to see for this one yet. Nonetheless it seems even if these wear down over a similar time their price point makes a replacement more feasible to buy.
@@Khepri666 Agreed. We're very impressed with them.
Thanks for this! For ppl that are on a budget or do HEMA as a hobby only and are trying to decide on one pair of gloves for single sword, a comparison video would be great!
@@planetbobful That's what we thought. This way you have all budgets covered.
They seem very wide, are they or does it just look that way on video?
Not super wide. A tiny bit wider on the fingers than a Thokk.
I cannot help myself, because they look to me like a mix between Koning Gloves and Red Dragon Gloves with an hourglass cuff.
They are like better fitting red dragons, with actual protection.
@@MichaelGThomas Sounds great, our Club in Augsburg, Germany has been trying out Koning, Pro Gauntlets, Spes Heavies and Sparring Gloves. Preferences are split equally between Spes and Sparring Globes but it is great to know development does not stop.
@@thomaswilkinson3241 We've used all those. I prefer these to PG, though the hard plates to offer meatier protection on the PG. These are much better than the sparring glove or Koning.
We will be doing a glove showdown video soon.
@@MichaelGThomas Wonderful idea.
Been interested in these gloves so this is an actual useful review. The manufacturer specifically states these aren't suitable for longsword, so surprising to see you're saying otherwise- not that I want to use longsword. Sounds promising, even with taking it with a massive pinch of salt. Quite a slog to get through though, could've been half the length. Still a lot of ehmming and ahhrring despite the years AHF have been making videos.
In a controlled environment with people I know, I'd use them for longsword. Outside of that I'd stick with mittens or similar.
There is a speed-up button on your video player, you know ...
These look great, but about position wrist: can you stand in "coda lunga e stretta" marozzo's guard (side sword)?
Coda lunga stretta is no problem, but tramazzone / molinetto is a bit more awkward with the SF than with the Thokks due to the Thokks being slightly more low profile.
Would you say these are better than the thokks?
I have both gloves, here's my take: Both are very stiff out of the box and take quite a while to break in. Thokks are slightly more low profile and once broken in are more comfortable with better dexterity, but sizing is more wonky. The SF have slightly beefier fingers and when sparring against sideswords / arming swords, hits to the fingers feel a bit less painful, but it comes at the cost of some dexterity. Both gloves have started to deteriorate quickly from steel fencing, especially around the tips of the fingers where stitches can come loose and the fabric starts to wear off. For synthetic sparring, both gloves will last a much longer time. A note about bucklers: The SF has a bulkier plate on the back of the hand, making the glove not fit into most bucklers I've tried whereas the Thokk (size M / ML) does fit into the same bucklers.
Summary: For more protective hilts, I prefer the Thokk. For less protective hilts, I slightly prefer the SF, or Gabriel 2.0 from CHFG.
@@heirihunziker how do these SF gloves compare to the Gabriel 2.0 in terms of protection and dexterity?
@@jonplayer0587 SF are very stiff initially, it will take weeks to break them in whereas the Gabriel feel very mobile right off the start. The SF (as well as the THOKK) are not protective enough for full contact longsword, the Gabriel are ok even for longsword tournaments but there is a very real risk of hits landing inbetween the plates of the sides of the fingers (especially index and pinky finger) and causing injury if your hand isn't in a fully closed hammer grip at all times. Which is a bit unfortunate considering the high mobility of the Gabriel which makes it fun to change grips freely and frequently. The newest update has improved the protection of the underglove a bit but the gaps are still there, so the issue remains. At least until the next version comes out which might fix it.
@@heirihunziker Thank you!
>it's quite handy
I hate you.
Quite "handy". LOL
"...which is quite handy really..."
Be ashamed of yourself Mike. Very ashamed.
OMG another 20 minute rant. Please get to the point. I would much rather see some close up shots and testing clips. Otherwise, I may as well just listen to this review like a podcast.
Rant? Did you watch the video. We think the gloves are great and have ordered 12 more pairs.
Glad you are enjoying the free content.
Every mediocre HEMA review is someone talking about a product with the product in their video. You guys are supposed to be the top guys for reviews right? I had higher expectations of you. Also Podcast are free too.
@@tonyh9283 Thanks for the comments. Enjoy your weekend.
Useless comment. Some zhuzhed up 2min tiktok reel garbage with big letters and an emoji overlay more your speed? Information takes time, especially experiential information.