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Just so we're clear -- Eris, Sedna, Makemake, and Haumea are presently seen only as blobs of light by Earth telescopes. Illustrations of landscapes and craters as seen in this video are purely imagination.
@@joeschembrie9450 they'd probably see it better tho with a stronger telescope hubble I think was used for discovering exoplanets outside our solar system.
@@sunakorose I'm sure they can see major surface colorations with a larger telescope, maybe even the Webb, but they're not going to see individual craters until they send a probe.
I can see the anti LGBTQ might have had a say. That being said, I think keeping with mythical tradition, and not tv fanboy typology was probably the right way to go. 😆
I find it very fitting that Eris got Pluto demoted after not even being considered for planet status. I mean, consider that its mythological inspiration caused a war for not getting a wedding invitation.
Eris was briefly considered planet 10. It was the projected discovery of many similarily sized objects that got Eris and Pluto demoted. This did not happen though.
@@Royelsworth the biggest difference? Mercury long ago cleared it's orbital path, and it's path is not eccentric as hell. PLuto was always a weirdo with its orbit being significantly inclined, and crossed inside of Neptune's - something we were privileged to see for 20 years not long ago. It was closer to the sun during that time. It was just dumb luck that led CLyde Tombaugh to note it.
I would love to see a photo of Eris in my lifetime, considering how beautiful and diverse the surface of Pluto was revealed to be I'd be interested to see Eris' similarities or differences.
Fun fact: the most distant object we are aware of in our the solar system is actually man-made. Voyager 1 is 156 AU away from the sun and will continue traveling out of our solar system for tens of thousands of years
Fun Fact, your fun fact is a lie. Voyager 1 is no-longer in our Solar System, Voyager 1 is in interstellar space. Please stop spreading lies, because you did not say anything that is a fact.
@@wolfshanze5980 No it is not in interstellar space. It is nowhere close to being in interstellar space. It is in what WAS considered interstellar space when it was launched. The Solar System extends over 1000 AU.
Out of curiosity, I checked if you could theoretically JUMP to escape velocity from Ceres, the smallest dwarf planet. What I found was rather fascinating: An Olympic athlete in his prime, squatting down for the vertical jump without a spacesuit would come relatively close, but alas, would just find themselves a good way around the dwarf planet before inevitable crashing down very far away. Even with a spacesuit on the Moon, there's a reason they often did the horse gallop or shuffle that they make you do in PE. Even if they could bend down and jump with their spacesuits, it's not the best idea haha
I loved the idea and process of thinking, but I only see one problem. We are indeed able to jump as high due to the fact that we can make that force against the Earth's floor. But would we be able to jump as high in a smaller planet? where your body ain't as atracted to the surface and therefore not able to create the force against it?
The escape velocity from Ceres (at the equatorial surface) is 516 m/s, equivalent to about Mach 1.5 on Earth. Looking up info about high jumpers gives typical men's Olympic high jump velocities of about 4.5-4.8 m/s, less than 1% of Ceres escape velocity. It would still look pretty impressive though: 4.8 m/s gives a jump height of 1.18 m on Earth but 40.6 m on Ceres, or 133 ft!
Of historical interest that Eris was first identified using the 1.22 m (48 inch) Samuel Oschin Schmidt telescope at Palomar Observatory, California. There are many much larger and more modern survey telescopes. Construction on the Samuel Oschin Schmidt telescope began in 1939 and it was completed in 1948. It was paired with its working partner the 200-inch (5.1-meter) Hale Telescope. For their era they were very productive scopes. The telescope was originally hand-guided through one of two 10-inch-aperture (0.25 m) refracting telescopes. It was later fully automated and the photographic plates were replaced with CCDs. Its latest detector uses a 16×6144×6160 CCD array (606 megapixels) with a 47 square degree field of view. It is truly amazing the continued success of this old telescope.
We had a female dog called Eris. She was a very naughty puppy and we discovered that Eris is the goddes of rage. But later, Eris became very kind, calm and loving dog. We still miss her.
Fascinating. Learning more about all those distant solar system objects -and discovering more of them - is something to look forward to in the future of astronomical research. It was just a bit distracting when the commentary didn't match the subtitiles or the logic - at least 3 times it should have been 'minimum' but the narrator said 'maximum'. I see someone else in the comments noticed this. The subtitles got it right this time. Some videos have hilarious subtitles that are nothing like what is actually being said.
Eris's Mass has always interested me. This would make it more rocky than the larger Pluto. I hope we can send a probe out there and get some pretty pictures. It dose make one wonder if there is a third orbital plane we haven't discovered yet.
Seems unlikely but not impossible. The rotation should pull everything into a single plane, more or less, unless the object orbiting is large enough to shrug off the force that tries to center it, be it gravity or the massive magnetic field of the sun. If there's anything out of plane it would be large, distant or moving very fast.
@@glenwaldrop8166 which is what makes Pluto and Eris's orbits so fascinating. I thought Eris's orbit was closer to Pluto's, but I just looked it up. If the renditions I saw were correct, Eris's orbit is tilted much farther off the ecliptic and in the opposite direction from Pluto, so it orbiting in its own plane. Instead of casting them out of the Planet box, I think it's more interesting to ask why their orbits aren't aligned with the others. Neptune is kind of in the wrong spot as well. The other planets closer to the sun (including Ceres) follow Bodes Law as to where their orbit should be located. Neptune was the exception when it was discovered that debunked Bodes Law. It's about half as much closer to Uranus than it should be if we follow Bode. Even though their orbits are odd, Pluto and Eris are just about where Bodes Law predicts planets should be, had they been along the ecliptic. It's more like something pushed them out of alignment, pushed Neptune inward and toppled Uranus, and the outer solar system is still trying to adjust back to normal. Along the ecliptic. It's just hasn't had enough time to do so yet
@@colleenforrest7936 Interesting. Makes perfect sense. It would have to be one hell of an object and given how their orbits were affected you could work backwards and figure out when it happened and what angle the rogue came in from, it would almost have to be a rogue coming in at nearly a perpendicular angle to hit all three planet's orbits they way it did.
Nope! While this would be a neat idea, it would be both incredibly unlikely for them to exist (as the material that formed our solar system was in a disc-like shape), and if they were to exist, we would have discovered them already, as our current instruments would be able to tell even the slightest gravitational effect they had. They would also likely be bright in the night sky, so they would have been observed long ago.
They would also have to be not very reflective either. Not impossible, but rare. Most mass in the solar system coalesced around the orbital plane the Earth is apart of, thanks to Angular Momentum and Gravity. Someone should check!
Something big is lurking around the out skirts of our solar system,find the binary battery Red Dwarf sun.you will find the other half,of our solar system food for thought humble opinion great stuff honestly
@@dimensio_italian_magician Pluto was demoted because it was thought that Eris was bigger in size and (it still has) a bigger mass. But now that we have better technology we now know that Pluto is slightly bigger in size. Plus, Pluto is a geologicaly active world with five moons, Charon is 1/3 of the size of Pluto, they both technicaly orbit a barycenter outside the dwarf planet all while traveling through the keiper belt. The current defenition of a planet is total bs.
@@Superstorm50 "planet" means: Having enough mass to have an almost spherical shape, Having a regular orbit, Not having other big objects in the orbit that make it a bit unstable. Or.. that's what i know about it. Yeah, jupiter has asteroids in its orbit, but those aren't very big compared to the planet and don't really affect the orbit. Dwarf planets are super small and are in the asteroid belts. A lot of them have almost spherical shape, only a few like Haumea have irregular shapes.
@@dimensio_italian_magician The definition you’re describing is stupid because it doesn’t apply to exoplanets or rogue planets. In reality, planets are round objects that can’t do nuclear fusion.
It's properly called a Kuiper Belt Object, and it's really hard to make a case for why any old KPO should be called a planet. Because the definition of planet is not :roundish thing that goes round the sun".
It’s an object that does intersect the Kuiper Belt, but why is it so difficult to call it a planet? If you look up the word “planet” in the dictionary, you’ll get “round objects orbiting stars that themselves are not stars” and even that explanation is more complicated than it actually is.
@@ragnarr7965 No it wouldn’t because asteroids CANNOT BE ROUND by hydrostatic equilibrium. If an asteroid is only a few miles across and is somewhat spherical, that would not count because it’s probably spherical from chemical bonds and material strength. You can only become rounded by GRAVITY once you get to about 400 miles across. So no, asteroids are distinct from planets. Any object that’s 1/10th Pluto’s mass to about 10x Jupiter’s mass will be rounded by gravity. Any lower and it becomes an asteroid. Any larger and it becomes a star.
@@Jellyman1129 Yes, I know that. I was trying to point out the weird dictionary definition you quoted. A round object orbiting a star is, as you said, not necessarily a planet. Shit, I could yeet a Ball into space and make it Orbit the sun, but that doesn't turn it into a planet. I just thought that your quote was somewhat odd.
Eris is a dwarf planet slightly smaller than Pluto, but Eris is more massive than Pluto. It takes Eris more than 500 years to complete an orbit around the sun. Eris has a moon called Dysnomia.
Guy switched "minimum" for "maximum" three times! .. When talking about the minimum distance from the sun, around 5:15 and when talking about albedo around 7:19.. And one more around 11:30... What is going on?
I caught the albedo one... not the others. Also, it's orbit of 552 years... an orbit is ONE year... so Eris's orbit is 552 *Earth* years. Slightly disappointing, but forgivable errors. Needs better proof reading.
Very informative. Not to be picky, but... 5:08 Eris has an Orbital period of 552 *_Earth_* years. One orbit = one year objectively. 7:25 Narration said Maximum = 1 *_AND_* Maximum = 0. Can't be both. Caption clarified it, said Minimum = 0.
We should colonize Eris and make it a way station for interstellar travel seeing at it has an eliptical orbit that takes it well outside the neptune orbit. Also I'm sure 2257 is far enough away that it's plenty of time to get ready to go there
Some people are so exaggerated. "Oh poor pluto and other dwarf planets, they didn't deserve this1!!" Come on. They are just big rocks in space, not living things with feelings.
My issue with this whole subject is the person who spear headed pluto being downgraded. He's one of the most unlikable scientists around. And i believe he only did this mess, to puff up his ego and make himself seem smarter. He's not as smart as he thinks he is. lol
@@gohanangered9650 they didn't want to have too much planets in the solar system. Also, Pluto wasn't the only known dwarf planet when it got downgraded. Yeah, we already knew about Eris and Ceres. Idk if we already knew about makemake too but i remember it already was discovered
@@dimensio_italian_magician Yeah, because having “too many planets” would be a travesty and astronomers can’t count that high! Oh no! 😱😱😱 Seriously, that reasoning is idiotic! 😂
@@Jellyman1129 actually the reason is the fact that dwarf planets are all in the kuiper belt. Their orbits have big titlts (unlike planets) and the kuiper belt is more massive than them.
@@dimensio_italian_magician Their orbits have big tilts because of their distance from the sun. It’s because of WHERE they are, not WHAT they are. Even Mercury has a pretty hefty orbital tilt. The Kuiper Belt being more massive than them has nothing to do with it. Even Earth isn’t nearly as massive as the entire Kuiper Belt. Literally doesn’t change anything.
That’s correct, but nobody knew about it at the time until its “official” discovery in 2005. That minor error I’m willing to ignore, but it certainly was NOT discovered in 2003 as he claims.
I don't care what those clown scientists say. Pluto & Eris are straight-up planets. I will never accept that derogatory dwarf term & negative label of not being a planet.
Yes, I agree! Planetary scientist Alan Stern coined the term “dwarf planet” in 1991 to mean “small planet”, analogous to dwarf star or dwarf galaxy. The Irrelevant Astronomical Union decided to use that term in a contradictory sense and screwed everything up, causing ALL planetary scientists to UNANIMOUSLY ignore the idiotic organization! That definition was created by non-experts like galactic astronomers and in reality, the true experts (planetary scientists) never use that ridiculous “definition” and use an entirely different one called the Geophysical Planet Definition. This isn’t new, they’ve been ignoring the IAU since 2006 up to the present day. They’ll call objects like Pluto, Ceres, Eris, Sedna, and even objects like Ganymede, Enceladus, and Titan PLANETS all the time in their research papers. So nobody has a problem with calling them dwarf planets (like how Jupiter being called a GIANT planet doesn’t make it not a planet, and the Sun being called a DWARF star doesn’t make it not a star), but saying a dwarf planet is not a planet is where the people who actually have a brain take issue. Ignore the IAU, dwarf planets are planets too! 💫 Love this comment, you have the right mindset! 👍🏻
@@colleenforrest7936 Because school kids won’t remember the names of all of them! Oh no! Our solar system posters will be too big! And Mike Brown would lose his ego of finding “Planet Nine” and he wants to put his discovery up on the fridge for everyone to see! He found another planet, great jo-oh wait, planetary scientists are already up to planet number 87 in our solar system. On top of that, Voyager 2 already proved that a giant planet beyond Neptune doesn’t exist. Whoops! Yet the fool still continues to run in circles trying to cater to his IAU rulers like a henchman. He’s just embarrassing himself when everyone’s moved on to current data with lots of planets. He’s still living in 1929! 😂
Don't forget now, astronomers know more about language than language scientists: Eris is a "dwarf planet", and the fact that they added an adjective to the word "planet" means it's *not* a "planet" anymore.
Don’t think the ‘Oort Cloud’ exists. No evidence for such a place. Pure conjecture and theory. Even Patrick Moore accepted this when I visited him back in 2002. Great man!
@@grant1390 That is not evidence of an ‘Oort cloud’. They could come from anywhere and there is no evidence that they are long period either. Has an ‘Oort cloud ‘ actually been observed. If so, where and when? Where is its location? Who located it? Pure conjecture!
Nope. Pluto is certainly the most interesting dwarf planet we know of so far I think. It has a very this atmosphere surprisingly, and with it's moon Cheron it's almost like a binary dwarf planet because the size of the moon compared to Pluto itself. But it's not a planet.
If we're counting round things that travel that travel around the baricenter formed primarily by Sol and Jupiter, wouldn't we count Ceres too? Ooo, that makes Pluto Planet X! Wow!
@@LisaAnn777 So... Just how far from another planet's orbit does a diminutive round thing have to be to becomes a bonifide planet that's cleared its orbit?
Perihelion is 'minimum'. You misspoke and said 'maximum' for both. We will not know much about Eris for quite some time to come. Many of the numbers and other statements aren't necessarily going to pan out. I think for right now, it's enough to know it's there.
A jade stone is useless before it is processed; a man is good for nothing until he is educated." - Education is what turns people into productive human beings.
I vote the next planets are called Iscandar, and Gamilon. Moons of Iscandar should be called Starsha and Astra. This would make my day. (Yamato Star Blazers animé)
Triton probably is such a case, but the other big moons have too perfect orbits. They formed around their planets just like the planets formed around the sun.
So.... all this business is finally settled. [thanks for the deep dive on Eris, sharing Cetus with Earendel, for all you who are concerned with these things.
"Ph" pronounced "F" is the transliteration of the Greek letter phi. Aphelion should not be pronounced aFelion, but aP--Helion. Greek apo = far away, helios = sun.
So astronomers disagree what constitutes what a planet is.I still say Pluto with its 5 moons, is round and travels around the Sun...sounds like a planet, okay a dwarf planet to me.
Io Eris Discordia! Titan goddess of strife and discord. Daughter of Nyx. Mother of manslaugher, Ruin, lies and anarchy, of hardship, pain and starvation. But most of all the Logoi. May she have an actual planet named after or sooner or later. Or we'll curse you.
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Just so we're clear -- Eris, Sedna, Makemake, and Haumea are presently seen only as blobs of light by Earth telescopes. Illustrations of landscapes and craters as seen in this video are purely imagination.
James webb and Hubble can be used to make a good prediction tho
@@toibain2070 Of what? That there are craters? Yes, there are craters.
@@joeschembrie9450 they'd probably see it better tho with a stronger telescope hubble I think was used for discovering exoplanets outside our solar system.
@@sunakorose I'm sure they can see major surface colorations with a larger telescope, maybe even the Webb, but they're not going to see individual craters until they send a probe.
It's hard to guess too. Pluto looks nothing like what I thought it would.
Fun fact.
The temporary names for Eris and Dysnomia were Xena and Gabrielle. Named after the two main characters from the Xena show.
We like Eris and Dysnomia better...
Your frail species didn't even build a single temple for either of us so... it's been a bit long in the coming.
yeah too bad they dinnint stick with that
poor eris he did nothing wrong got same fate as pluto demoted laughed and forgotten for eternity for nothing!
Thx for the fact
I can see the anti LGBTQ might have had a say.
That being said, I think keeping with mythical tradition, and not tv fanboy typology was probably the right way to go. 😆
I find it very fitting that Eris got Pluto demoted after not even being considered for planet status. I mean, consider that its mythological inspiration caused a war for not getting a wedding invitation.
Eris was briefly considered planet 10. It was the projected discovery of many similarily sized objects that got Eris and Pluto demoted. This did not happen though.
Pluto is a dwarf Planet yet it Is Bigger then Mercury and Mercury is considered a Planet
@@Royelsworth
Pluto is not bigger than Mercury, and even if it was, it’s significantly less dense
@@Royelsworth the biggest difference? Mercury long ago cleared it's orbital path, and it's path is not eccentric as hell. PLuto was always a weirdo with its orbit being significantly inclined, and crossed inside of Neptune's - something we were privileged to see for 20 years not long ago. It was closer to the sun during that time. It was just dumb luck that led CLyde Tombaugh to note it.
@@Royelsworthmercury is 25 times more massive then Pluto.
I would love to see a photo of Eris in my lifetime, considering how beautiful and diverse the surface of Pluto was revealed to be I'd be interested to see Eris' similarities or differences.
Agreed my friend it deserves its own mission i would honestly wait my whole life to see eris up close
I agree.
Fun fact: the most distant object we are aware of in our the solar system is actually man-made. Voyager 1 is 156 AU away from the sun and will continue traveling out of our solar system for tens of thousands of years
consider that long-period comets are further than 156 AU now
Unless it hits something
Sedna will be much futher than Voyager 1 for most of its orbit.
Fun Fact, your fun fact is a lie. Voyager 1 is no-longer in our Solar System, Voyager 1 is in interstellar space. Please stop spreading lies, because you did not say anything that is a fact.
@@wolfshanze5980 No it is not in interstellar space. It is nowhere close to being in interstellar space. It is in what WAS considered interstellar space when it was launched. The Solar System extends over 1000 AU.
Out of curiosity, I checked if you could theoretically JUMP to escape velocity from Ceres, the smallest dwarf planet. What I found was rather fascinating: An Olympic athlete in his prime, squatting down for the vertical jump without a spacesuit would come relatively close, but alas, would just find themselves a good way around the dwarf planet before inevitable crashing down very far away. Even with a spacesuit on the Moon, there's a reason they often did the horse gallop or shuffle that they make you do in PE. Even if they could bend down and jump with their spacesuits, it's not the best idea haha
I loved the idea and process of thinking, but I only see one problem. We are indeed able to jump as high due to the fact that we can make that force against the Earth's floor. But would we be able to jump as high in a smaller planet? where your body ain't as atracted to the surface and therefore not able to create the force against it?
♫giant steps are what you take. walking on the moon. i hope my legs don't break. walking on the moon...♫
@@raulgutimanza1234 interesting thought
The escape velocity from Ceres (at the equatorial surface) is 516 m/s, equivalent to about Mach 1.5 on Earth. Looking up info about high jumpers gives typical men's Olympic high jump velocities of about 4.5-4.8 m/s, less than 1% of Ceres escape velocity. It would still look pretty impressive though: 4.8 m/s gives a jump height of 1.18 m on Earth but 40.6 m on Ceres, or 133 ft!
You probably mean Deimos or something cause ain't no way an athlete is jumping at the speed of Mach 1.5 😂
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Of historical interest that Eris was first identified using the 1.22 m (48 inch) Samuel Oschin Schmidt telescope at Palomar Observatory, California. There are many much larger and more modern survey telescopes. Construction on the Samuel Oschin Schmidt telescope began in 1939 and it was completed in 1948. It was paired with its working partner the 200-inch (5.1-meter) Hale Telescope. For their era they were very productive scopes. The telescope was originally hand-guided through one of two 10-inch-aperture (0.25 m) refracting telescopes. It was later fully automated and the photographic plates were replaced with CCDs. Its latest detector uses a 16×6144×6160 CCD array (606 megapixels) with a 47 square degree field of view. It is truly amazing the continued success of this old telescope.
Amazing!
Keeping in mind that 8 inch and likely less is the regular diameter for commercial scopes.
Quite a lot informative 🙏
I always enjoy learning about our amazing solar system. Thank you.
Our pleasure!
We had a female dog called Eris. She was a very naughty puppy and we discovered that Eris is the goddes of rage. But later, Eris became very kind, calm and loving dog. We still miss her.
Pluto was a dog too!
Lyssa was rage, Eris was chaos.
Fascinating.
Learning more about all those distant solar system objects -and discovering more of them - is something to look forward to in the future of astronomical research.
It was just a bit distracting when the commentary didn't match the subtitiles or the logic - at least 3 times it should have been 'minimum' but the narrator said 'maximum'. I see someone else in the comments noticed this. The subtitles got it right this time.
Some videos have hilarious subtitles that are nothing like what is actually being said.
who tf is this anyway? its one of those softwares that just narrates, right?
Eris's Mass has always interested me. This would make it more rocky than the larger Pluto. I hope we can send a probe out there and get some pretty pictures.
It dose make one wonder if there is a third orbital plane we haven't discovered yet.
Seems unlikely but not impossible.
The rotation should pull everything into a single plane, more or less, unless the object orbiting is large enough to shrug off the force that tries to center it, be it gravity or the massive magnetic field of the sun.
If there's anything out of plane it would be large, distant or moving very fast.
@@glenwaldrop8166 which is what makes Pluto and Eris's orbits so fascinating. I thought Eris's orbit was closer to Pluto's, but I just looked it up. If the renditions I saw were correct, Eris's orbit is tilted much farther off the ecliptic and in the opposite direction from Pluto, so it orbiting in its own plane.
Instead of casting them out of the Planet box, I think it's more interesting to ask why their orbits aren't aligned with the others. Neptune is kind of in the wrong spot as well. The other planets closer to the sun (including Ceres) follow Bodes Law as to where their orbit should be located. Neptune was the exception when it was discovered that debunked Bodes Law. It's about half as much closer to Uranus than it should be if we follow Bode.
Even though their orbits are odd, Pluto and Eris are just about where Bodes Law predicts planets should be, had they been along the ecliptic. It's more like something pushed them out of alignment, pushed Neptune inward and toppled Uranus, and the outer solar system is still trying to adjust back to normal. Along the ecliptic. It's just hasn't had enough time to do so yet
@@colleenforrest7936 Interesting.
Makes perfect sense. It would have to be one hell of an object and given how their orbits were affected you could work backwards and figure out when it happened and what angle the rogue came in from, it would almost have to be a rogue coming in at nearly a perpendicular angle to hit all three planet's orbits they way it did.
I wonder if it is possible that Eris may be a captured rouge planet.
@@dicerosautismambient4894 certainly possible, that would also explain why it was on it's own orbital plane, it just hasn't normalized yet.
Wait could there be more larger planets on highly tilted orbits?
And we just haven't discovered them?
(And possibly not very reflective)
Very much possible. Perhaps even likely.
yes. the assumed planet 9 may be tilted. correct me if I'm wrong.
Nope! While this would be a neat idea, it would be both incredibly unlikely for them to exist (as the material that formed our solar system was in a disc-like shape), and if they were to exist, we would have discovered them already, as our current instruments would be able to tell even the slightest gravitational effect they had. They would also likely be bright in the night sky, so they would have been observed long ago.
They would also have to be not very reflective either. Not impossible, but rare. Most mass in the solar system coalesced around the orbital plane the Earth is apart of, thanks to Angular Momentum and Gravity. Someone should check!
@@star8276it is a plausible theory that is acknowledged by nasa as somewhat possibke
Whos eris?
Eris: *cries in planet*
I will always see Pluto as the 9th planet, I WILL NOT CHANGE MY MIND.
It's smaller than our moon bro lol
Good, because you’re correct.
Well it isn't a planet by definition - you personally can think what you like - but that doesn't make it so.
@@grant1390 truth be told the definition has changed many times over the years
@@Rolatnor I am aware of this - but I was one of the votes in favour of the change at the IAU meeting.
Love learning more about our solar system and the new planet's thet they are discovering. Keep them coming 🖤
I love hearing about Uranus
Something big is lurking around the out skirts of our solar system,find the binary battery Red Dwarf sun.you will find the other half,of our solar system food for thought humble opinion great stuff honestly
07:24 Correction It should be minimum , not maximum.
So if Pluto is bigger than Eris, make Pluto a planet again. 🤷♀️
Size isn't the only thing that makes them dwarf planets and eris is still kinda small compared to other planets
@@dimensio_italian_magician Pluto was demoted because it was thought that Eris was bigger in size and (it still has) a bigger mass. But now that we have better technology we now know that Pluto is slightly bigger in size. Plus, Pluto is a geologicaly active world with five moons, Charon is 1/3 of the size of Pluto, they both technicaly orbit a barycenter outside the dwarf planet all while traveling through the keiper belt. The current defenition of a planet is total bs.
@@Superstorm50 "planet" means:
Having enough mass to have an almost spherical shape,
Having a regular orbit,
Not having other big objects in the orbit that make it a bit unstable.
Or.. that's what i know about it.
Yeah, jupiter has asteroids in its orbit, but those aren't very big compared to the planet and don't really affect the orbit.
Dwarf planets are super small and are in the asteroid belts. A lot of them have almost spherical shape, only a few like Haumea have irregular shapes.
@@Superstorm50 Agreed. Pluto and Eris are both planets!
@@dimensio_italian_magician The definition you’re describing is stupid because it doesn’t apply to exoplanets or rogue planets. In reality, planets are round objects that can’t do nuclear fusion.
It's properly called a Kuiper Belt Object, and it's really hard to make a case for why any old KPO should be called a planet. Because the definition of planet is not :roundish thing that goes round the sun".
What we call it is not important.
It’s an object that does intersect the Kuiper Belt, but why is it so difficult to call it a planet? If you look up the word “planet” in the dictionary, you’ll get “round objects orbiting stars that themselves are not stars” and even that explanation is more complicated than it actually is.
@@Jellyman1129 Wouldn't that Definition make any somewhat round Asteroids also planets? Doesn't make too much sense.
@@ragnarr7965 No it wouldn’t because asteroids CANNOT BE ROUND by hydrostatic equilibrium. If an asteroid is only a few miles across and is somewhat spherical, that would not count because it’s probably spherical from chemical bonds and material strength. You can only become rounded by GRAVITY once you get to about 400 miles across. So no, asteroids are distinct from planets. Any object that’s 1/10th Pluto’s mass to about 10x Jupiter’s mass will be rounded by gravity. Any lower and it becomes an asteroid. Any larger and it becomes a star.
@@Jellyman1129 Yes, I know that. I was trying to point out the weird dictionary definition you quoted. A round object orbiting a star is, as you said, not necessarily a planet. Shit, I could yeet a Ball into space and make it Orbit the sun, but that doesn't turn it into a planet.
I just thought that your quote was somewhat odd.
Eris is a dwarf planet slightly smaller than Pluto, but Eris is more massive than Pluto. It takes Eris more than 500 years to complete an orbit around the sun. Eris has a moon called Dysnomia.
Eris likely has a white surface
I know many TNOs and Eris is the second most popular. It's not "forgotten" at all.
I think this is a channel for people who know nothing about astronomy.
because it should be regarded equally as Pluto.
We need to send a space probe to eris and why does Pluto get all the attention it’s always pluto give eris some love as well
12:52 JWST is not expected to enter its operational phase soon, as of the date of this vid it IS in its operational phase.
06:06 Correction It should be 2018 AG37 , Eris is only 6 th.
Of all the now classed dwarf planets, Pluto is a beautiful world. ❤
Guy switched "minimum" for "maximum" three times! .. When talking about the minimum distance from the sun, around 5:15 and when talking about albedo around 7:19.. And one more around 11:30... What is going on?
I caught the albedo one... not the others.
Also, it's orbit of 552 years... an orbit is ONE year... so Eris's orbit is 552 *Earth* years.
Slightly disappointing, but forgivable errors. Needs better proof reading.
you keep saying maximum instead of minimum
Very informative. Not to be picky, but...
5:08 Eris has an Orbital period of 552 *_Earth_* years. One orbit = one year objectively.
7:25 Narration said Maximum = 1 *_AND_* Maximum = 0. Can't be both. Caption clarified it, said Minimum = 0.
The same weird mistake happened at 5:19. The Narrator said "maximum at perihelion" but the caption correctly stated "minimum."
I don't want to live in an 8 planet solar system
Move.
i cant possibly be the only one who shed tears to this.. yall. i’m sobbing 😭
you MISSED out the part where Eris was called Xena and the moon Gabriel before its official name
MAybe I'm missing something but why are we not tasking the James Webb Space Telescope to image these objects?
They will be looked at - but are quite far down the priority list.
very nice and thorough job. all kudo to you
We should colonize Eris and make it a way station for interstellar travel seeing at it has an eliptical orbit that takes it well outside the neptune orbit. Also I'm sure 2257 is far enough away that it's plenty of time to get ready to go there
"Eris is the most distant dwarf planet in our solar system to this day", wheres the love for Farfarout?
Legit, FarFarOut needs more attention. 💫
I wonder if Eris is on the JWST's hit list for observation?
Probably not. It's not much of a camera. It took a picture of Ganymede the other day, and it was even fuzzier than the Hubble image.
Too close and too dim.
Some people are so exaggerated.
"Oh poor pluto and other dwarf planets, they didn't deserve this1!!"
Come on. They are just big rocks in space, not living things with feelings.
My issue with this whole subject is the person who spear headed pluto being downgraded. He's one of the most unlikable scientists around. And i believe he only did this mess, to puff up his ego and make himself seem smarter. He's not as smart as he thinks he is. lol
@@gohanangered9650 they didn't want to have too much planets in the solar system.
Also, Pluto wasn't the only known dwarf planet when it got downgraded. Yeah, we already knew about Eris and Ceres. Idk if we already knew about makemake too but i remember it already was discovered
@@dimensio_italian_magician Yeah, because having “too many planets” would be a travesty and astronomers can’t count that high! Oh no! 😱😱😱
Seriously, that reasoning is idiotic! 😂
@@Jellyman1129 actually the reason is the fact that dwarf planets are all in the kuiper belt. Their orbits have big titlts (unlike planets) and the kuiper belt is more massive than them.
@@dimensio_italian_magician Their orbits have big tilts because of their distance from the sun. It’s because of WHERE they are, not WHAT they are. Even Mercury has a pretty hefty orbital tilt. The Kuiper Belt being more massive than them has nothing to do with it. Even Earth isn’t nearly as massive as the entire Kuiper Belt. Literally doesn’t change anything.
9 planets to the sun 9months of the womb.
Forgotten? I never knew. Eris needs a new PR person! Oh it’s worse than I thought. It wants to autocorrect to Eros??? :)
05:52 Correction images of Eris have been identified back to September 3, 1954.
That’s correct, but nobody knew about it at the time until its “official” discovery in 2005. That minor error I’m willing to ignore, but it certainly was NOT discovered in 2003 as he claims.
I don't care what those clown scientists say. Pluto & Eris are straight-up planets. I will never accept that derogatory dwarf term & negative label of not being a planet.
Preach!
Yes, I agree! Planetary scientist Alan Stern coined the term “dwarf planet” in 1991 to mean “small planet”, analogous to dwarf star or dwarf galaxy. The Irrelevant Astronomical Union decided to use that term in a contradictory sense and screwed everything up, causing ALL planetary scientists to UNANIMOUSLY ignore the idiotic organization! That definition was created by non-experts like galactic astronomers and in reality, the true experts (planetary scientists) never use that ridiculous “definition” and use an entirely different one called the Geophysical Planet Definition. This isn’t new, they’ve been ignoring the IAU since 2006 up to the present day. They’ll call objects like Pluto, Ceres, Eris, Sedna, and even objects like Ganymede, Enceladus, and Titan PLANETS all the time in their research papers. So nobody has a problem with calling them dwarf planets (like how Jupiter being called a GIANT planet doesn’t make it not a planet, and the Sun being called a DWARF star doesn’t make it not a star), but saying a dwarf planet is not a planet is where the people who actually have a brain take issue. Ignore the IAU, dwarf planets are planets too! 💫
Love this comment, you have the right mindset! 👍🏻
@@Jellyman1129 again with the superstitious fear of "too many planets"! Why?
@@colleenforrest7936 Because school kids won’t remember the names of all of them! Oh no! Our solar system posters will be too big! And Mike Brown would lose his ego of finding “Planet Nine” and he wants to put his discovery up on the fridge for everyone to see! He found another planet, great jo-oh wait, planetary scientists are already up to planet number 87 in our solar system. On top of that, Voyager 2 already proved that a giant planet beyond Neptune doesn’t exist. Whoops! Yet the fool still continues to run in circles trying to cater to his IAU rulers like a henchman. He’s just embarrassing himself when everyone’s moved on to current data with lots of planets. He’s still living in 1929! 😂
@@Jellyman1129 Pretty much. The artificial limitation is not science!
It’s beyond silly to imply that Dwarf Planets be less important than Planets
I agree, but the IAU certainly didn’t help. 😒
You mean “little planets”
New Horizons would not have happened had Pluto been called a "dwarf" or "little" planet ;)@@kevinhardy8997
We don't mind if it's called a dwarf, as long as it's acknowledged as a 'planet'..
Agreed. Calling a dwarf planet not a planet is idiotic. They are a type of planet.
Don't forget now, astronomers know more about language than language scientists: Eris is a "dwarf planet", and the fact that they added an adjective to the word "planet" means it's *not* a "planet" anymore.
There are many of this size planetoids out there.
Don’t think the ‘Oort Cloud’ exists. No evidence for such a place. Pure conjecture and theory. Even Patrick Moore accepted this when I visited him back in 2002. Great man!
The Oort Cloud hypothesis was strengthened by the fact there is evidence for it. It is not pure conjecture.
@@grant1390 And what is that evidence?
@@peterclarke3990 The existence of and the spatial distribution of long period comets.
@@grant1390 That is not evidence of an ‘Oort cloud’. They could come from anywhere and there is no evidence that they are long period either. Has an ‘Oort cloud ‘ actually been observed. If so, where and when? Where is its location? Who located it? Pure conjecture!
Pluto is still the 9th planet and Eris is the 10th planet....
And Ceres, Haumea, Makemake, and Sedna are...
Nope. Pluto is certainly the most interesting dwarf planet we know of so far I think. It has a very this atmosphere surprisingly, and with it's moon Cheron it's almost like a binary dwarf planet because the size of the moon compared to Pluto itself.
But it's not a planet.
If we're counting round things that travel that travel around the baricenter formed primarily by Sol and Jupiter, wouldn't we count Ceres too?
Ooo, that makes Pluto Planet X! Wow!
Thanks Jerry
@@LisaAnn777 So... Just how far from another planet's orbit does a diminutive round thing have to be to becomes a bonifide planet that's cleared its orbit?
Eris: I'm a planet too!
Pluto: I told you not to -- oh ffs
Perihelion is 'minimum'. You misspoke and said 'maximum' for both. We will not know much about Eris for quite some time to come. Many of the numbers and other statements aren't necessarily going to pan out. I think for right now, it's enough to know it's there.
That's no moon. It's a space station.
I have a bad feeling about this.
Ok flat earther
Can a space station be a moon, so both
A jade stone is useless before it is processed; a man is good for nothing until he is educated." - Education is what turns people into productive human beings.
Never heard of them, fascinating!
Nice video, but please correct the usage of "minimum" and "maximum. There are at least two instances where they are not used correctly.
hopefully they launch a probe on april 4th 2032 so we would have images of eris as soon as 2057
Yes, I bet there will beany surprises like with Pluto. It turned out to be much more interesting that many previously thought.
Some clamored to call it the 10th planet of the solar system,
It’s certainly the 10th largest planet orbiting the Sun.
We should start repairing our planet as a lesson not to pollute others.
I vote the next planets are called Iscandar, and Gamilon. Moons of Iscandar should be called Starsha and Astra. This would make my day. (Yamato Star Blazers animé)
I wonder if most moons are captured dwarf planets, or if most dwarf planets are escaped moons 🤔
Well, we only have evidence for a captured dwarf planet: Triton
Triton probably is such a case, but the other big moons have too perfect orbits. They formed around their planets just like the planets formed around the sun.
"That's no moon"
when we see precissed Eris photos? Can the Webb telescope make it?
Another excellent place to establish a station for extra-solar system travels.
I keep forgetting we have multiple planets
The outer solar system is a wonderfully mysterious place, full of more planets to explore! 😁
Fascinating
So.... all this business is finally settled. [thanks for the deep dive on Eris, sharing Cetus with Earendel, for all you who are concerned with these things.
3:42 - “Dysnomia”?! That’s hilarious! They couldn’t think up a name, so the called it, “Unnamable”?
There's 13 planets in our solar system.
Yes, but there’s more than that.
Is it really forgotten if you just made a video on it?
Dwarf planet would still be a planet can't be a dwarf anything without being that thing?
Dwarf planets ARE planets according to experts. The non-experts (the IAU) got it wrong.
Wasn’t Eris featured in the show: The Expanse “?
Great video !
Yay Today we talking about Me!!! 🥳🥳🤭
Eris also acts as a celestial mirror with an albedo of ≈0.85
Sedna sounds like the opening of one of those "Ligma" jokes.
01:52 Correction Triton was found in 1846 , not 1847 .
Marky-Marky Always reminds me of a pants dropping 90's rapper and not a celestial body.
"Ph" pronounced "F" is the transliteration of the Greek letter phi. Aphelion should not be pronounced aFelion, but aP--Helion. Greek apo = far away, helios = sun.
so why not use Eris Gravity to help Voyager1 move3 through the space to the other galaxy
kazuma like eris more than the blou ball he is cursed with
So we have Eris, Happy, Sleepy, Dopey, Bashful, Pluto, Sneezy...
Eris wandered so far, no wonder Rudeus couldn't find her.
Eris would make a nice moon for Mars.
Kalo lihat lintasan orbit nya, mungkin pluto ma eris bekas komet penjelajah kuno yg tertangkap grafitasi matahari..
🤔🤔🤔🤔
average pluto fan vs average eris enjoyer
So astronomers disagree what constitutes what a planet is.I still say Pluto with its 5 moons, is round and travels around the Sun...sounds like a planet, okay a dwarf planet to me.
There may be hundreds if not thousands of transneptunian dwarf planets.
Yes indeed, there are hundreds already discovered.
Why is everything so perfectly round…is there a box shaped planet… are a planet that is cut is half from collision???
Eris is amazing
Eris, get your rock off my map.
My cat is Sedna.
Io Eris Discordia! Titan goddess of strife and discord. Daughter of Nyx. Mother of manslaugher, Ruin, lies and anarchy, of hardship, pain and starvation. But most of all the Logoi.
May she have an actual planet named after or sooner or later. Or we'll curse you.
I wonder if Eris could be a captured rogue planet that was captured by our sun.
rogue
Unlikely; as elliptic as its orbit is, it's still too circular to be a grab from a hyperbolic orbit.
I don’t know about Eris, but Sedna very well may be.
Why don't we send a cubesat to Eris to take pictures?
Good video except the parts where I got flashed by an all white background like on 6:31
Question for any Dutch speakers out there... I always hear the Kuiper Belt pronounced as "Kiper". Shouldn't the pronunciation be closer to "Kowper"?
As a North German speaker, I would assume Kooyper.
I say “Kie-per”, but I’ve heard others say “Koy-per”.
Regardless of what the europhile's say if it is able to have a moon then it Must be a Planet!!! 🤠👍
Damn. I was looking forward to this video. Then the narrator spoke.
If I see the 10th planet first...I will name it Schlong
Kaiper belt ❌
Kupiter belt ✅
Well.... this must be my new home. Far away from humanity.
Pluto : are you kidding me?!
Pluto’s not forgotten, people always remember that planet. Eris is more obscure in most people’s minds.