@KiwiCarLife hey first I want to say love the videos! Secondly I want NZ kflash to tune my cl9,I see that they do tuning no matter location,but was wondering what's the best route for getting it done being a live in the U.S. ? Thanks
I gotta admit getting the reflash on my accord last week was the best decision I’ve made for that thing since buying it truely changed the car and now I can beat a 330i
I live in the UK and I had a ep3 type r what doesn't come with an lsd. Then I got a fn2 championship white edition what comes with the lsd and cornering difference was insane. It was the difference between understeering into a bush and being slingshoted around the corner.
I remember my CTR fn2 felt like a completely different car after flash. So much more usable power and vtec fun without having to go all the way. Should have been from factory like this. If you have a k20 and drive stock ecu, this is your wake-up call "get it done, you will not be disappointed!"
Getting a kflash done on my cm2 Accord. Was best thing I ever done to it, Still goes great nearly after 2 years, best thing you can do to any Accord... But other great vid, keep up the great work!!
I love that vtec noise, i miss it. I have an fk2 type r with 370 bhp after a map, as much as i miss the vtec these new turbo’d engines are another level of performance, but from time to time I do fancy a bit of vtec noise still
I love the analogies you use. They are very funny. Keep up the shenanigans as most other car channels are boring as bat shit. And now the Euro R pulls like ya mate's single dad.
Great video as always. It would be interesting to compare the difference between the performance of this tune to the one you can get from Spoon. I think the only difference is Spoons tune is 5000 VTEC engagement, with a raised 8800 RPM. Im still trying to decide which tune I want for my CL7R 🤔
Still in Auckland dude? should host a CL7 Meet for the channel i know a few mates who would be keen. Been watching you for awhile and love the content bro keep it coming.
How's the oil consumption on your Accord, I have K24A3 and i gotta tell you mine loves eating oil more than anything after the flash and new 4-2-1 custom exhaust manifold.
@@AndreiChirca Yeah mines about same too. It depends on the way i drive it. If i drive it over 3k rpms it consumes more. But I drive it with 5w-40 oil. And i always have more in the trunk😄. Mine's about 210 000km so i think it's pretty normal because the previous owner was driving it mad.
Are the ratios closer to each other now? I noticed that at the 2nd 0-100 you went just below 100 and had to shift compared to 1st run where you went over 100 on 2nd gear
@@KiwiCarLife i been thinking during the video "wow the throttle response between shifts is really well in that cl7" dbw in the cl9 is my less favorite thing of it ... There are much difference with the cable throttle?
@@KiwiCarLife well fn2 has k20 and DBW. Some k24 for jdm market kave k24 with cable tb. That is why CL9 cars have cutout for cable TB on the manifolds even that they don't have cable tb. Honda designed one manifold to be used for DBW and Cable tb
@@CL9k24a3 yeah, I know but that is not the problem... The car pulls strong and throttle response is very nice. I want more, of course, but understanding the limitations of my almost stock engine (only reflash and intake) it actually have a very nice punch. The problem is that is not always the same response like in a throttle cable. Like 10-20% of times, the car responses laggy, like if it would be a turbo engine, especially when you floor it. If you are refined driving, almost always response like it should, but it piss me of when you want to be a little hooligan and the car seems is having an asma attack for a moment . It really feels like an ecu/inyection thing
@@KiwiCarLife grt bro, yeah don't test it as its un safe and rediculous. Actually here in Pakistan, unfortunately tuners cannot access original ecu of accord euro r, like wise mine euro r. Tuners here ask to install k Pro. Only then they can reflash it or remove limiter. I just prefer good accleration 0 to 150 maximum, I hate top speed racing. Good luck bro, keep it up 👍👍👍👍👍
@@hassansafeer7411 Aslam o Alaikum Hasan bhai yaha b ponch ga 😂 lagta koi video nai chora ap na cl7 euro r ka even ap Hassan sisman k channel par b ga tha but shaid us ma reply nai tha kiya
@@FB6K24Z7 aoa bro, improvement k liay bro,. Q k yahan lahore may 1 b proper euro r nai hai, na koi mechanic hai proper. Mainay khud saray problems theek Karein hain, apni euro r ki, meri throttle body ki sensor ki callibtation out thi, jis ki wajah say Meri k20 ki crank awaz kar gai. Yahn kisi ko b malom nai hai k, throttle body ki calibration kaisay hoti, drive by throttle tb ki. V tec kam nai karta ager throttle body sensor ki calibration outho to. But now my vtecs are perfectly working, after tps calibration. Bus bhai information k liay, ab may apna ecu tune karwana chahta hoon, but everyone in lahore has refused to tune genuine ecu of euro r. Jub k is video may is nay apni euro r k genuine ecu ko tune karwa lia hai with limiter removed. Max power walay nay inkar kar dia, redline motorsports waqas nay b inkar kar dia. Bus yehi kehta hain k Pro lagao, usko tune kar dein gay.
Hey i was wondering about the header you got for the cl9 how long have you run it and what's your longterm opinion I have an 08 tsx and can't justify the cost for a toda header 😑
Serge headers are really good, but the k24a2 found on tsx it has better camshafts thand the a3 found in Europe, if you got a reflash for your car, will be a beast.
@@KiwiCarLife Apparently it’s not possible on the 2012 model. It needs a 2009 ECU to be swapped in and flashed for the immobiliser. But then you loose the Canbus. So steering wheel controls, radio features etc
Definitely Australian Jeremy Clarkson 😂😂😂😂 !!!! I want to reflash my CL9 Type S in the new year, it already goes like an absolute stabbed rat. JDM K24A3
More VTEC, just lovely. Gotta love the Honda reflash.
Yuuurs
@KiwiCarLife hey first I want to say love the videos! Secondly I want NZ kflash to tune my cl9,I see that they do tuning no matter location,but was wondering what's the best route for getting it done being a live in the U.S. ? Thanks
I gotta admit getting the reflash on my accord last week was the best decision I’ve made for that thing since buying it truely changed the car and now I can beat a 330i
Yep! 2.0L vs 3.0L, Honda wins!
I live in the UK and I had a ep3 type r what doesn't come with an lsd. Then I got a fn2 championship white edition what comes with the lsd and cornering difference was insane. It was the difference between understeering into a bush and being slingshoted around the corner.
Oh absolutely aye. I wasn't a believer in the LSD but after owning this I sure am now
I love the 'which we won't be testing' in regards to the 180 speed cut removal! 🤣
Yes haha
@@KiwiCarLife You'll have to take the honda to mexico
I remember my CTR fn2 felt like a completely different car after flash. So much more usable power and vtec fun without having to go all the way. Should have been from factory like this. If you have a k20 and drive stock ecu, this is your wake-up call "get it done, you will not be disappointed!"
Oh yeah absolutely man
Watching u drive urs makes me remember when i had mine 😢
Good vehicle
Another great vid, also makes me miss a good sorted n.a manual car and Wellingtons hilly driving roads!
Thanks man!
Would love to see the same test with factory airbox Vs factory airbox with filter Vs pod filter...
True might look into that
@@KiwiCarLife it deserves a new intake.
i always watch your CL7 build series!
Thanks!
Getting a kflash done on my cm2 Accord. Was best thing I ever done to it, Still goes great nearly after 2 years, best thing you can do to any Accord...
But other great vid, keep up the great work!!
Ooh yeah man it's good aye
Happy new year, bro! I must say those launches were better than 90% of videos.
Haha thanks man I try my best
Factory rev limit/launch control + tuned launch control. OP ASF
That Demio joke had me crying! Great video!
Oh no 🤣
I love that vtec noise, i miss it. I have an fk2 type r with 370 bhp after a map, as much as i miss the vtec these new turbo’d engines are another level of performance, but from time to time I do fancy a bit of vtec noise still
Yeahh the old school vtec sound is hard to beat
I love the analogies you use. They are very funny. Keep up the shenanigans as most other car channels are boring as bat shit.
And now the Euro R pulls like ya mate's single dad.
Thanks man! And yes it does HAHAH
Sounds very nice, happy new year! Can't wait to see what videos you'll make this year :)
Thanks man! Good stuff on the way
That boot open transition ;'D
HAHAH
Miss my 330ci, can’t believe you kept up they’re decently quick
That's coz he didn't hit da vtec
@@KiwiCarLife 330ci manual or automatic ?
Great video as always. It would be interesting to compare the difference between the performance of this tune to the one you can get from Spoon. I think the only difference is Spoons tune is 5000 VTEC engagement, with a raised 8800 RPM. Im still trying to decide which tune I want for my CL7R 🤔
Either or will be good I'd say
that thing sounds mental!
Ooh yeah
Still in Auckland dude? should host a CL7 Meet for the channel i know a few mates who would be keen. Been watching you for awhile and love the content bro keep it coming.
Hoping to come back up in April, might put something on then
car looks fantastic
Thanks man
I gotta get my manual CU2 flashed, might have to do a cheeky trip to Auckland one day haha. Am loving the videos 10/10
Cheers man, otherwise get him to do an ECU swap
That moment coming out of the car boot...hahaha. "What are we doing?!?"
Yes HAHAH
So your basically saying, your old cl9 torque but with sound and revi-ness of the k20a in the euro r.
Yeah kinda
Have an 06 accord here in the states. I want it flashed so bad but it's a bit pricey. 😕
Worth it tho
How much cost to reflash accord in US? Here in Ukraine is around 150$
How's the oil consumption on your Accord, I have K24A3 and i gotta tell you mine loves eating oil more than anything after the flash and new 4-2-1 custom exhaust manifold.
As Hondas get older they like to burn oil. Mine isn't too bad
how much does your car burn? My accord burns 1l at every 3000km, total 0w30. I will change to elf sxr 5w40, let's then.
@@AndreiChirca Yeah mines about same too. It depends on the way i drive it. If i drive it over 3k rpms it consumes more. But I drive it with 5w-40 oil. And i always have more in the trunk😄. Mine's about 210 000km so i think it's pretty normal because the previous owner was driving it mad.
@@stefankasev977 i had a CL9 that burnt almost a whole dipstick of oil during 1 pull. better oil and rvs treatment got rid of the problem
So the CL9 you owned was actually faster in the end hey believe you had a 5.8 0-100? but easy low 6s?
Oh yeah cl9 much faster with mods
Is kflash Honda only or is it open brand?
They can do heaps of brands
_Well worth doing a reflash👍🏼and great baseline comparison_ … _nice to see dragy times too_ … _the quality of your video content is fantastic_ 👌🏼
Thanks man!
What exhaust are you running? That thing sounds about as good as you can get IMO.
It's stock. You're hearing all induction noise
@@KiwiCarLife ahh ok it’s stock intake as well?
@@sentree9857 Nah pod filter
but the speed of those shifts is like smashing dumplings quite good
Haha lol
Are the ratios closer to each other now? I noticed that at the 2nd 0-100 you went just below 100 and had to shift compared to 1st run where you went over 100 on 2nd gear
Nah same gears
Is their a way to modify your revs so it goes all the way to redline when stationary in 1st gear?
Yep, they can tune for that if you want
What I noticed about your cl7 it doesn’t have APP sensor and instead has a Cable Throttle instead
Yep all k20a's are cable throttle
@@KiwiCarLife i been thinking during the video "wow the throttle response between shifts is really well in that cl7" dbw in the cl9 is my less favorite thing of it ... There are much difference with the cable throttle?
@@KiwiCarLife well fn2 has k20 and DBW. Some k24 for jdm market kave k24 with cable tb. That is why CL9 cars have cutout for cable TB on the manifolds even that they don't have cable tb. Honda designed one manifold to be used for DBW and Cable tb
@@Esdru221euroR has much faster CMC than cl9 and 5.4kg lighter fly wheel than cl9. That is main part where you extract throttle response.
@@CL9k24a3 yeah, I know but that is not the problem... The car pulls strong and throttle response is very nice. I want more, of course, but understanding the limitations of my almost stock engine (only reflash and intake) it actually have a very nice punch.
The problem is that is not always the same response like in a throttle cable. Like 10-20% of times, the car responses laggy, like if it would be a turbo engine, especially when you floor it. If you are refined driving, almost always response like it should, but it piss me of when you want to be a little hooligan and the car seems is having an asma attack for a moment .
It really feels like an ecu/inyection thing
In your opinion is the k flash tune still worth getting for an automatic? Specifically a cl9
Yeah for sure man. Cl9's and cl7's pick up the most gains from the tune
If it is automatic, you can also mod the transmission, and will be a lot faster.
How hard to change the final drive on these accords?
If you know what you’re doing it’s certainly possible
Can I get a reflash in South Africa?
Probably
What fuel consumption do you get per 100km
About 10L/100km
Will you do an FN2?
Already done it!
@@KiwiCarLife My bad, I can't find it.
Hellooo bro. Did you remove your speed limiter too of 180km , along with reflash??
He mentionned it in this video.
Yep removes speed cut and "I'm not going to test it"
@@KiwiCarLife grt bro, yeah don't test it as its un safe and rediculous. Actually here in Pakistan, unfortunately tuners cannot access original ecu of accord euro r, like wise mine euro r. Tuners here ask to install k Pro. Only then they can reflash it or remove limiter. I just prefer good accleration 0 to 150 maximum, I hate top speed racing. Good luck bro, keep it up 👍👍👍👍👍
@@hassansafeer7411 Aslam o Alaikum Hasan bhai yaha b ponch ga 😂 lagta koi video nai chora ap na cl7 euro r ka even ap Hassan sisman k channel par b ga tha but shaid us ma reply nai tha kiya
@@FB6K24Z7 aoa bro, improvement k liay bro,. Q k yahan lahore may 1 b proper euro r nai hai, na koi mechanic hai proper. Mainay khud saray problems theek Karein hain, apni euro r ki, meri throttle body ki sensor ki callibtation out thi, jis ki wajah say Meri k20 ki crank awaz kar gai. Yahn kisi ko b malom nai hai k, throttle body ki calibration kaisay hoti, drive by throttle tb ki. V tec kam nai karta ager throttle body sensor ki calibration outho to. But now my vtecs are perfectly working, after tps calibration. Bus bhai information k liay, ab may apna ecu tune karwana chahta hoon, but everyone in lahore has refused to tune genuine ecu of euro r. Jub k is video may is nay apni euro r k genuine ecu ko tune karwa lia hai with limiter removed. Max power walay nay inkar kar dia, redline motorsports waqas nay b inkar kar dia. Bus yehi kehta hain k Pro lagao, usko tune kar dein gay.
Hey there how much does the remap cost ?
$600 I think
Does a reflash demage my engine ?😊
Not at all
Did you do a open loop tune again?
Nah closed loop. All k flash tunes are closed loop
Does kflash do the legend too ? 😯
Sure do! The legend I reviewed was tuned by kflash
@@KiwiCarLife gotta get mine done 🤩👍
Does it have full stock exhaus like untuched or modded?
Yeah all stock
Scotty Kilmer vibes from the boot shot 😂
Hahaha yeah a bit
Hey i was wondering about the header you got for the cl9 how long have you run it and what's your longterm opinion I have an 08 tsx and can't justify the cost for a toda header 😑
Plm header was good, made power and held together alright. Just have to keep tightening the bolts every now and then
Serge headers are really good, but the k24a2 found on tsx it has better camshafts thand the a3 found in Europe, if you got a reflash for your car, will be a beast.
@@AndreiChirca hondata flashpro is around 700$ after I do the header I'm getting that 💪
Question can a uc1 be tuned as well?
Sure can
I have a 2012 CU2 with the K24Z3 engine. So far, i havent found any option for aftermarket ECU's or reflash compatibility. Anyone know of a solution?
KFlash can tune the CU2
@@KiwiCarLife Apparently it’s not possible on the 2012 model. It needs a 2009 ECU to be swapped in and flashed for the immobiliser. But then you loose the Canbus. So steering wheel controls, radio features etc
@@summit4x480 not true but .alot 2012-up been tuned In South Africa.
@@marlonbaird6070 yes. But not 2012 itself
Hondata offers Flashpro for 2007-2014 TSX/CU2 platform. I have mine tuned with an LSD and it really wakes the car up.
How's your gas mileage? Serious question
10L/100km ish so not amazing
What coils are you running ?
Stock Honda ones?
@@KiwiCarLife oh , thought you were lowered
@@707DBC oh springs? Yeah it’s on Jamex lowering springs. Never heard someone refer to suspension as coils haha
What power are u running after reflash
Picks up about 5 peak kW and 20 peak Nm, will have to get it on a dyno to see the true gains
Clarksonism: "Bigger EXXPLOOsions"
Yes HAHA
It's turbo cars where it makes a much bigger difference
For sure
How’s the fuel economy before and after the reflash?
No difference really, all depends how you drive it
Sadly they don't do tuning in AUS now
He still can, just has to do remote tuning
@@KiwiCarLife They said no last month, maybe they do now, I'll ask again
Yeah they don't do Australia anymore, sucks tbh
Funny.😂
@@richardggeorge oh yes
Shit, i haven't thrashed PK hill in a few years. I love that road if there's no cyclists.
It's awesome man
@@KiwiCarLife is it still a lil sketchy or have they done a bunch of roadworks?
Revs post 8k? Good god
Oh yeahhh
Definitely Australian Jeremy Clarkson 😂😂😂😂 !!!! I want to reflash my CL9 Type S in the new year, it already goes like an absolute stabbed rat. JDM K24A3
Hahah nice, new Zealand JC maybe
Cl9 sounds way better, has better torque, the drawbacks on cl9 it is the gearbox and the oil pump..
Disagree on the sound part but agree on the others
when u tested the 0-100 after the reflash u had no petrol😂😂
same as before reflash
Yeah no petrol in both runs to keep them fair and even
3:17 0-100 to the petrol station
Just trying to make the car as light as possible
@@KiwiCarLife 🤣🤝
More out of the boot transitions hahaha
Yes
good Japanese
Thanks
Lol 🤣
Yuuuurs
Hey kiwicarlife, absolutely loved the vid but i was wondering where i could get a kflash tune here in syd for my 07 cl9. Thanks 🫶
Hit him up on insta man he'll be able to look after you with something