@@iluvmaruku *Depends. You can find someone who's "average" and grow to find them attractive over time, but if they are super unattractive right off the bat... Probably not then.*
This happened to me 5 years ago. I had a friend who just got out of a bad relationship, but I also had a crush on her. Because I didn't think it was a good idea to ask her out immediately, I waited for about 6 months and we actually became really close during that time. Before I had a chance to make my move, someone else did. Before she went on a first date with him, she actually wanted to talk about something. She questioned if I had any feelings for her. I told her I did. Surprisingly, she also said she had feelings for me. During the 6 month wait, she was actually wondering if I was ever going to ask her out and if it was a good idea to get in a relationship with me. Ultimately, we didn't get to be in a relationship (which did sting for a bit) but we both didn't want to end the friendship just because we know so much about each other and really cared for each other. Today, we are still good friends. She's in a relationship with a new guy now while I'm still single. But you know what? I'm doing alright. I know not every relationship/friendship will work out like this, but I just wanted to share my story. I think everyone should just be honest with how they feel.
Kudos to you, man! Best wishes. Given that she knows about this already, when the next chance comes, get on it, don't be "Asian" about it. (As in the stereotype) OK, maybe a month first, after her recovery. PS. Seriously, where did everyone else on the boat go?
I'm at that weird position where I always feel like I would never date someone I wasn't friends with first (because what are you going to build the relationship up from?), but also like not being able to decide/getting scared that dating a friend would ruin what you already have with each other. Thankfully when I made it clear to a friend that I didn't want to date them, we're still really good friends now, but I'm still kind of wondering if that decision was to protect myself or protect the friendship and I don't know which is worse.
I disagree with Phil that you can't have a friendship if you're attracted to them! Maybe I'm biased cause this happened to me with my long time friend since grade school. He's an attractive guy so I remember having a crush on him in grade school but we were always just friends. I got over it cause it's grade school, not that serious. I never told him about it and we remained friends. Then fast forward to like sophomore year of highschool I actually started to like him and I liked him for a couple years, he never knew, but we were still really close friends and we're close friends to this day. I think the difference is whether you care about them enough to just wish for their happiness and nothing more. Once you start trying to get something out of them then it's not longer a healthy friendship. Whether it's romantic, or material or emotional. If I started to only view our relationship as I like him so I want to date him and get him to date me then I would be using our friendship for my own gain, which is toxic. But I never viewed it that way...I liked him but I cared about our friendship so much I set aside how I felt and waited for him to give me signs or tell me if it was mutual. It never was so I just backed off and he got into a happy relationship. I eventually grew out of those feelings and we're still really good friends and I no longer view him in that way when I liked him in high school.
Brenda Charles I think you'd be surprised. Guys do it all the time. They're on standby hoping to get waived through to the next room. You see this a lot with hot girls who have a lot of guy "friends." They all hang out in the friend-zone and most of them will never say anything because sometimes it's just enough to be close to a hot girl, but given the opportunity many dudes would even leave their girlfriends for that one girl in their life.
Most of the best romantic relationships I’ve seen starts with friendship. Love, respect, being able to count on them, talk to them about anything is something you have with friends and need in a long term relationship
I feel like not having guy friends in elementary school was super detrimental to me personally because then when I got to middle school (and high school...and college 😅) it was really hard for me to just be friends with guys. I always felt like I had to have a crush on them, or rather, I was really picky with my guy friends so of course the ones I chose wound up being guys I was attracted to, etc. So I struggle a lot with this subject because on the one hand, i really want close guy friends. But on the other, I know that I personally can’t have that because I always fall for them. And they never like me back. So slowly our friendship fades and I get really sad. Right now I’m friends with a guy, we’ve known each other for nearly 3 years. I told him I liked him in September and wasn’t met with mutual feelings but we’ve maintained the exact same friendship since. It probably helps that I graduated and he’s still in school so I’m not seeing him every day anymore. BUT ANYWAY! Loved this lunch break. Really good points and got my brain thinking lol
Jam But of course when I did tell a girl I was friends with that I was attracted to them, I got the exact response as 9:24. Our friendship was never really the same after that. So I've learned from my mistake.
i honestly think that fans ship literally any two people together no matter what. people just haven’t shipped mike and kirstin together bc they thought that she was still married
I think the thing about best friends with the opposite gender is that there are so many things that overlap with a normal healthy relationship and usually one or both of the parties will start to wonder, why am I searching for more when I already have what I want in a relationship. But the problem is, the feelings might be lacking or unreciprocated, yet in moments of doubt, this may be overlooked and at the end of the day could jeopardise the friendship.
As a healthy straight male, here’s what I think/feel: I do find girls attractive and wonder how it would be to go out with them, especially because I’ve been single for a while, but that’s because I’ve been single. If I had a gf I would still find them attractive but would have no problems being friends, unless the girl isn’t my type but we have things in common I’ll have no problem liking her as a friend only. At the moment there is this one girl interested (she made it way too obvious) but she’s not my type so I’m trying to have a talk with her but we’re always busy... and I don’t want to start a relationship and later break up because it didn’t work, I don’t want to change the friendship especially because she’s like “one of the bros”. I also feel that I can be friends with my guy friends’ gfs because I know there’s a line we’ll never cross. Tl;dr if they’re not your type, you can be friends no problem, if they have bfs and /or you have a gf already, also no problem
Outside of maybe fandoms/fans for friendly joking purposes. I think shipping people you know in real life is just manipulative because people get so blinded by what they think is the perfect couple they just turn things awkward or pressure people in to siuations where they feel like they can't leave. I have three cases I have seen. 1. The relationship between two of my friends was going so well and they were happy growing at their own pace. However their aquaintences kept trying to meddle or hear about the details of their relationship. They tried to"help" by giving suggestions on how they would do things. ( Their friends were really just trying to live through them.) 2. A girl I knew got stuck into an emotionally abusive relationship for two years because her friends insisted he was perfect or said that she was the problem not him. 3. People shipped them together but they both were just really unhappy. Turns out the person who shipped them was just looking for a reason to interact with the boyfriend's friends and was willing to throw her friend under the bus just to do it.
im currently in college and two of my best friends are girls. I developed small feelings for one, and I kind of told her at one point, she didn't reciprocate, which was totally fine. But after I got my closure I was able to go back to the way things normally were between us. I feel like you can cut off romantic feelings for someone as long as you have an answer as to whether or not it will go anywhere, but maybe that's just me lying to myself. I don't think so though since I've been able to date no problem after the fact
I feel bad for Mike because Kirstin was so adamant about thinking she knows how he feels yet in the end she admits to not knowing how to identify the signs. Even if he tells you your sister is hot, Kirstin, you’re absolutely gorgeous T_T
I agree with Phil. For the most part, If either one side is attracted to the other, and is always chasing/crushing, being friends is out of the question.
I dont normally comment on videos but I actually just recently went through this. Been good friends with this girl for 5 years and eventually I caught feelings and eventually told her. Unforutnately, she didn't feel the same way. She was super cool about it and we are still best friends today and still hangout weekly. It's different for all guys but for me, I am still good with being best friends with her and I have moved on from seeing her as both my best friend and more than a friend to just seeing her as a best friend now. I personally think that it is still possible to be best friends even when you have been rejected. It all just depends on whether that person can move on and continue being best friends or not and also not making things awkward. I don't regret telling her how I feel because at least now I know. It's way better than going through day to day thinking about how she feels about me.
To answer this though, what's the difference between platonic and romantic? Why should platonic not become romantic? Trust and care exist in both types of relationship. Seems like the only difference is the intimacy and especially the exclusivity, the latter enhancing the ship intensity. So if you trust yourself to be a good man and you really want the best for her (and especially if you find her attractive) naturally you can catch feelings. Who doesn't want their other half to be a best friend? So I feel like that's the difference. If the other person checks all the boxes on your dating preferences, watch out, though it's not a bad thing.
Further thought: this might need to be a one to one situation though. If either party has multiple best friends of the opposite sex, my guess is that only the default person has a chance. Default as in he/she is the first person to come to mind.
You would think it'd be a natural transition from a platonic relationship to a romantic relationship, since at face value, the only difference is sexual intimacy. The main hurdles, especially if you are inexperienced in relationships, is that expectations and dynamics change once you are in a romantic relationship. The expectations and ideals you have for a friend are different, and maybe even more lofty for someone you are dating. They become even more pronounced once you start living together. Also, being a good friend and becoming a romantic partner are 2 different things, 2 different skill sets attributes. The qualities that made you a good friend doesn't necessarily translate into attraction. Attraction is mostly instinctual, gut feeling, subconscious; usually not logical. You notice in this talk that most of the focus is on whether to let their friend/crush know that they want to escalate the relationship to something romantic, and taking a blind shot in the dark; because there's a naive assumption that just because you are close as friends, it would automatically translate to a successful relationship. There is little talk in the sense of bettering oneself, making oneself a more attractive and understanding life-partner prospect, to increase the odds of success.
Could you make more relationship videos, I feel we are going through relationships but don’t know what to do, what to say in different stages/ different situations, this kinda of videos helps a lot in navigating through relationships. Thanks for making such videos :)
I've been in that situation before and I got turned down. I was so grateful though because I didn't want those feelings AT ALL because I knew we worked better as friends. Them turning me down needed to happen so that I could quash those feelings and we've been good friends ever since.
Just because someone catches feelings doesn't mean you cant still just be friends though! You dont have to pursue anything, and even if someone confesses, if they're decent, they can accept and move on with the friendship, even if they need a break to get rid of the feelings
- "You liking them is dependent on them not liking you." Damnnn...Taylor dropped a truth bomb. That seems common with girls. - After watching this episode, I can't believe Mike and Kirstin aren't together lol - Also, Kirstin is HOT af
Absolutely agree, regardless of the outCome do it. I confessed and get rejected once, after cooling down a bit via time, we become distant mate because I want to keep my distance but no longer have feelings for him. It’s about the power to walk away. I had another friend who confessed the other day, but he keep asking me if there’s any chance I can change my mind to like him, so desperate that I know I cannot be mate with him🙈
Yes but....they cant get too close otherwise it may become one-sided...I have girls that are friends but I never try to push myself to them otherwise I or her will have feelings or think that the other has feelings and the relationship will end up horrible. Unless youre both very lucky and both parties really do have feelings for eachother and ditch the "friendship" for a "repationship"...yea impossible imo.
i have guy friends who are attractive and 'my type', but i'm so satisfied with our dynamic as being just friends that i would never think about ruining that by dating them also i think it's possible to like someone and still remain friends! as long as they don't expect anything out of it, it's kinda cruel to say they have to end the friendship because of feelings that you can't control i like my best friend but i know it's not going to happen, so we still hang out and talk as platonic friends do while i work on getting over those feelings. that still counts as a friendship, i think
Getting more matured I really stopped believing in a really CLOSE friendship between male and female. First of all, I started dating my first boyfriend when we got so close so we had to admit it's now just friendship because friends can't be so weirdly close. So, speaking of a guy and a girl who are BEST friends its really hard to draw the line between the attraction and friendship. Secondly, before meeting my boyfriend (fiancee) who I'm happily together with right now, I had a relatively close guy friend and we shared so much interests together and I'd like to be friends with him forever, but he just stopped contacting me after I got in relationship because he secretly liked me all the way through --- I knew it tbh but just treated him as a friend and thought he could compromise but he couldn't and just disappeared from my life. So yeah, now I' m convinced perhaps I can't be absolute besties with a guy friend, but normal (not-too-close) friendship is surely OK, I still have a lot of guy friends.
While I generally believe it is pretty difficult for guys and girls to remain platonic for their entire relationship, I also know it's possible because my best friend (of well over 2 decades) is a girl and we really do treat each other like brother and sister. And while I know our relationship may be on the fringe of being an exception, it is possible, but only when both sides has reached that level of honesty and trust.
Friendship goals! If it works it works. Since they're both adults in relationships already with mutual respect for one another, its possible to be best friends. You have to know where to draw the line... that's all
BEFORE I even watch the full thing I have always thought they look good together and they'll end up together at some point. My thoughts still remain AFTER. Kirstin's saying no, but Mike's body language says yes. Lol his face was so red throughout this. Also I think they know something Kirstin doesn't especially when Phil was saying the friendship can work if they mutually have no feelings for each other so it seemed he knows Mike's actually _attracted_ to her. I think Mike is hopeful that Kirstin changes her mind and gives him a chance to be more than just friends. And him liking Kirstin's sister is just a cover up. Anyway I totally ship it. I feel it's gonna happen!
Ricky Putra she's divorced or not with her husband anymore. Idk why you're bringing up because it's irrelevant. I found out about Kirstin after she separated
lol. I was actually noticing her hoodie the WHOLE time and was like: where is that from. But I just checked the website, and they are out of size Small and Medium. :(
Hello MWF, writing about when the line is crossed if the guy or girl can be friends. You have not been married yet and when would you say you want the opposite to be in your circle as your good friend. Did you stand for Rupert Julia or Cameron in Best Friends Wedding. Julia was caught with emotions of her friend is leaving. Cameron was innocent - did you know if Julia can be friends(?) Elle for Dog Chat
Just thought I’d share as a girl that I’ve been in the situation where I was interested was trying to send signals and then ended up telling them about my feelings. Like Taylor it was a all cards in the table to get closure and move on if they weren’t interested. Even though they turned me down I’m glad I did it because it was so important just to be honest about my feelings. We’re still friends now so I’m happy with the outcome.
What they say is one thing but looking at their body language is something else. Based on the short interactions, it seems MB and KL has a very utopia view relationship but not a practical one which is the fuel behind their answers in this lunchbreak
Keep up your content, I am working in shepherdsville Kentucky which they don’t see this kind of shows, I just say my friends back home. Downey California
I'd say guy / girl friendships still work even if there is some attraction / feelings involved so long as you prioritise the friendship before anything else
In my personal view, between guy & girl, 'Good friends' and 'Best friends' are not the same kind of relationship and it's composed with different ingredients. When guy and girl are friends, they forget the gender, but that hardly makes 'Best friend'. [One side crush doesn't count in this] Good friends, Best friends(buddies) and Lovers are different kinds of 'Love'. Best friends need more Love , Chemistry and Attractive (Physically & Mentally) ... or you can say that Best friends between guy & girl are more than just friends. They are attracted to each other but with the realization that 'It won't be enough' or 'It won't work' as lovers. So each of them kinda draws the line for himself/herself and keeps it. However, "He/she is kind of my sub-type" so I enjoy hanging out with him/her. [they can even feel mild degree of chicky or jealous sometimes especially when 3rd person involved] And because of that, in critical moment or situation, many best friends accidentally unintentionally cross the line and screw up the relationship. Moreover, because "He/she is kind of my sub-type", if you put them into the situation that they don't think they can pursue their 'my type' anymore , like 'cast away' ... the balance of dynamic between this 'Best friends' will possibly shift to Lovers [easier than in the Good friends case]. In fact, we all know that Best friends is the closest thing to Lovers. It's also the most emotional involved relationship next to Lovers. So..... can guy & girl be friends ??? .... It depends on which part of the spectrum of 'friends' you are talking about.
There's no spark in their eyes when they look at each other. when Mike and Taylor look at each other you can see that. you can feel it! especially mike. but that spark can be confused since they are like Best friends.
im a guy & my best friend is a girl but unfortunately i fell in love with her - one sided love to be exact...SMH update: she doesnt like me like that but were still best friends
True platonic friendships is like hanging out with a sibling or cousin, you just don't see them in a reproductive way. However if I'm in a friendship and would feel attraction I still wouldn't act on it because a great friendship means more to me. Like you can choose to not act on feelings with for example the ex of a friend because you value the friendship more.
I have had and still do have both really good guy and girl friends. In my younger school years, I actually had more guy friends because we just had more in common. As a married adult, I have more girl friends now that are like sisters to me.
Kirstin is amazing. Cuz girl same. What is love? I wouldn't know either. But her personality is so fun and its like Phil and Tay are the elder brothers trying to explain dating. Yoooo! You could make a wongfu short like DTR where best friends try and define what relationships they have because those around him or elderly siblings are explaining love to them. Just saying lol
Its impossible for me to have a female friend like Kristen. Like she is so attractive, humorous, and cool. I would slowly fall in love with her and turn out having crush on her.
"You can find someone attractive but not be attracted to them"
*More like you wouldn't mind having sex with someone you find attractive, but you know it's not a good idea so you don't pursue it.*
Truth right there. Acknowledgement of beauty (in either gender) is not an admission of romantic interest.
Can the reverse work? "You can find someone (physically) unattractive but be attracted to them"
@@iluvmaruku *Depends. You can find someone who's "average" and grow to find them attractive over time, but if they are super unattractive right off the bat... Probably not then.*
Exactly
This happened to me 5 years ago.
I had a friend who just got out of a bad relationship, but I also had a crush on her. Because I didn't think it was a good idea to ask her out immediately, I waited for about 6 months and we actually became really close during that time. Before I had a chance to make my move, someone else did. Before she went on a first date with him, she actually wanted to talk about something. She questioned if I had any feelings for her. I told her I did. Surprisingly, she also said she had feelings for me. During the 6 month wait, she was actually wondering if I was ever going to ask her out and if it was a good idea to get in a relationship with me. Ultimately, we didn't get to be in a relationship (which did sting for a bit) but we both didn't want to end the friendship just because we know so much about each other and really cared for each other.
Today, we are still good friends. She's in a relationship with a new guy now while I'm still single. But you know what? I'm doing alright. I know not every relationship/friendship will work out like this, but I just wanted to share my story. I think everyone should just be honest with how they feel.
Kudos to you, man! Best wishes.
Given that she knows about this already, when the next chance comes, get on it, don't be "Asian" about it. (As in the stereotype)
OK, maybe a month first, after her recovery.
PS. Seriously, where did everyone else on the boat go?
@@ABCantonese Thanks. I've already learned to let her go. I'm content with being good friends. Also, what boat?
@@C.Dat.guyoverthere I'm kind of on the same boat as you.
@@ABCantonese Oh ok. Gotcha.
subtle asian feels
Mike's face when she starts talking about her sister lolol.
Yo bring her to more lunch breaks. She's a breath of fresh air with all the calm monotone conversations haha
I'm at that weird position where I always feel like I would never date someone I wasn't friends with first (because what are you going to build the relationship up from?), but also like not being able to decide/getting scared that dating a friend would ruin what you already have with each other. Thankfully when I made it clear to a friend that I didn't want to date them, we're still really good friends now, but I'm still kind of wondering if that decision was to protect myself or protect the friendship and I don't know which is worse.
Mike and Kirsten looked so uncomfortable when their friendship was being read lmaooo
theyrr secretly dating.
Send Garbage isn’t she married tho? 😨
i love yall so much!!!!!!
When you think the acc is fake bc the Pic is a dog 😂
Kiirstin Leigh wait...You LOVE me?
MikeBowShow can we still be friends
You should be a regular on Wong Fu!
You are the hotter sister. Facts.
I disagree with Phil that you can't have a friendship if you're attracted to them! Maybe I'm biased cause this happened to me with my long time friend since grade school. He's an attractive guy so I remember having a crush on him in grade school but we were always just friends. I got over it cause it's grade school, not that serious. I never told him about it and we remained friends. Then fast forward to like sophomore year of highschool I actually started to like him and I liked him for a couple years, he never knew, but we were still really close friends and we're close friends to this day. I think the difference is whether you care about them enough to just wish for their happiness and nothing more. Once you start trying to get something out of them then it's not longer a healthy friendship. Whether it's romantic, or material or emotional. If I started to only view our relationship as I like him so I want to date him and get him to date me then I would be using our friendship for my own gain, which is toxic. But I never viewed it that way...I liked him but I cared about our friendship so much I set aside how I felt and waited for him to give me signs or tell me if it was mutual. It never was so I just backed off and he got into a happy relationship. I eventually grew out of those feelings and we're still really good friends and I no longer view him in that way when I liked him in high school.
Exactly. I think it's easier for girls to do this - sorta swallow their feelings for the sake of the friendship but guys can't.
Brenda Charles I think you'd be surprised. Guys do it all the time. They're on standby hoping to get waived through to the next room. You see this a lot with hot girls who have a lot of guy "friends." They all hang out in the friend-zone and most of them will never say anything because sometimes it's just enough to be close to a hot girl, but given the opportunity many dudes would even leave their girlfriends for that one girl in their life.
Amen
Ive never related more to this comment
@@BluesRiffage "just enough to be close to a hot girl" okay lol what
Most of the best romantic relationships I’ve seen starts with friendship. Love, respect, being able to count on them, talk to them about anything is something you have with friends and need in a long term relationship
I feel like not having guy friends in elementary school was super detrimental to me personally because then when I got to middle school (and high school...and college 😅) it was really hard for me to just be friends with guys. I always felt like I had to have a crush on them, or rather, I was really picky with my guy friends so of course the ones I chose wound up being guys I was attracted to, etc. So I struggle a lot with this subject because on the one hand, i really want close guy friends. But on the other, I know that I personally can’t have that because I always fall for them. And they never like me back. So slowly our friendship fades and I get really sad. Right now I’m friends with a guy, we’ve known each other for nearly 3 years. I told him I liked him in September and wasn’t met with mutual feelings but we’ve maintained the exact same friendship since. It probably helps that I graduated and he’s still in school so I’m not seeing him every day anymore. BUT ANYWAY! Loved this lunch break. Really good points and got my brain thinking lol
Same situation here！
it’s a struggle!!
Same but with female friends. It got a lil easier later in college since girls are more open and I felt more confident.
Jam But of course when I did tell a girl I was friends with that I was attracted to them, I got the exact response as 9:24. Our friendship was never really the same after that. So I've learned from my mistake.
i honestly think that fans ship literally any two people together no matter what. people just haven’t shipped mike and kirstin together bc they thought that she was still married
omg i didnt know she was married - but "still" hmm :/
That is if they have those type of standards. People ship married actors with their costars a lot.
WAIT SHES NOT ANYMORE WTF
Isn't Kirstin married and with a child? Or that happened after this video?
Kirstin is Wong Fu's new visual. Please stan.
lunch break or dinner break?? LOL it looks dark out
I think the thing about best friends with the opposite gender is that there are so many things that overlap with a normal healthy relationship and usually one or both of the parties will start to wonder, why am I searching for more when I already have what I want in a relationship. But the problem is, the feelings might be lacking or unreciprocated, yet in moments of doubt, this may be overlooked and at the end of the day could jeopardise the friendship.
What are they eating??? I’m so distracted!
Kirstin needs to join the wong fu family, regularly!
Lol I got and ad in the middle about free shipping
I feel like Phil has been thru a lot in his past relationships. Couldn’t agree more with his perspective on guys and girls being friends.
Holy fff did Mike turn bright-ass red at 3:53 after Kirstin put him on blast! Haha adorable
It looks so dark outside for a lunch break LOL
It's a dunch LOL
2:50 This Bow-y is so HAWWT Right Now 🚢
MikeBowShow small penis tho
This is actually helpful
@@followthewhiterabbit8561 you just here to make racist comments?
richard seymore BRUH I JUST CAME FROM THE CRAZY CHEAP ASIANS VIDEO AND I SEE U ASKING WEIRD QUESTIONS ABOUT MIKE
Hahahha you’re sweet
at 0:10 it looks like Taylor has a Starbucks logo tattoo on his wrist.
HAHAH #illusions
Ships like Wes and Cathy? 😂
I drew you!!
PrismaticVagabond77 ?
@@tothestarsandthemoon hitting on Cathy. Haha. It's super old, but funny
I love her personality. She just shout out every of her thoughts so spontaneous 😂
As a healthy straight male, here’s what I think/feel:
I do find girls attractive and wonder how it would be to go out with them, especially because I’ve been single for a while, but that’s because I’ve been single. If I had a gf I would still find them attractive but would have no problems being friends, unless the girl isn’t my type but we have things in common I’ll have no problem liking her as a friend only.
At the moment there is this one girl interested (she made it way too obvious) but she’s not my type so I’m trying to have a talk with her but we’re always busy... and I don’t want to start a relationship and later break up because it didn’t work, I don’t want to change the friendship especially because she’s like “one of the bros”.
I also feel that I can be friends with my guy friends’ gfs because I know there’s a line we’ll never cross.
Tl;dr if they’re not your type, you can be friends no problem, if they have bfs and /or you have a gf already, also no problem
Well said.
Outside of maybe fandoms/fans for friendly joking purposes.
I think shipping people you know in real life is just manipulative because people get so blinded by what they think is the perfect couple they just turn things awkward or pressure people in to siuations where they feel like they can't leave.
I have three cases I have seen.
1. The relationship between two of my friends was going so well and they were happy growing at their own pace. However their aquaintences kept trying to meddle or hear about the details of their relationship. They tried to"help" by giving suggestions on how they would do things. ( Their friends were really just trying to live through them.)
2. A girl I knew got stuck into an emotionally abusive relationship for two years because her friends insisted he was perfect or said that she was the problem not him.
3. People shipped them together but they both were just really unhappy. Turns out the person who shipped them was just looking for a reason to interact with the boyfriend's friends and was willing to throw her friend under the bus just to do it.
im currently in college and two of my best friends are girls. I developed small feelings for one, and I kind of told her at one point, she didn't reciprocate, which was totally fine. But after I got my closure I was able to go back to the way things normally were between us. I feel like you can cut off romantic feelings for someone as long as you have an answer as to whether or not it will go anywhere, but maybe that's just me lying to myself. I don't think so though since I've been able to date no problem after the fact
I feel bad for Mike because Kirstin was so adamant about thinking she knows how he feels yet in the end she admits to not knowing how to identify the signs. Even if he tells you your sister is hot, Kirstin, you’re absolutely gorgeous T_T
3:50 Mike got so red!
MAYLOR (Mike + Taylor) FOR LIFE! ❤️
we got Mike & Kiirstin on Lunch Break now for Amber to complete the gang!!
Hanin Insyirah also we need emily
Damn, she's cute asf
I agree with Phil. For the most part, If either one side is attracted to the other, and is always chasing/crushing, being friends is out of the question.
mike bowwwww is bacckkk finally !!
When Mike says he is Tay-ken. Phewwww
I dont normally comment on videos but I actually just recently went through this. Been good friends with this girl for 5 years and eventually I caught feelings and eventually told her. Unforutnately, she didn't feel the same way. She was super cool about it and we are still best friends today and still hangout weekly. It's different for all guys but for me, I am still good with being best friends with her and I have moved on from seeing her as both my best friend and more than a friend to just seeing her as a best friend now. I personally think that it is still possible to be best friends even when you have been rejected. It all just depends on whether that person can move on and continue being best friends or not and also not making things awkward. I don't regret telling her how I feel because at least now I know. It's way better than going through day to day thinking about how she feels about me.
To answer this though, what's the difference between platonic and romantic? Why should platonic not become romantic? Trust and care exist in both types of relationship. Seems like the only difference is the intimacy and especially the exclusivity, the latter enhancing the ship intensity.
So if you trust yourself to be a good man and you really want the best for her (and especially if you find her attractive) naturally you can catch feelings. Who doesn't want their other half to be a best friend?
So I feel like that's the difference. If the other person checks all the boxes on your dating preferences, watch out, though it's not a bad thing.
Further thought: this might need to be a one to one situation though. If either party has multiple best friends of the opposite sex, my guess is that only the default person has a chance. Default as in he/she is the first person to come to mind.
You would think it'd be a natural transition from a platonic relationship to a romantic relationship, since at face value, the only difference is sexual intimacy.
The main hurdles, especially if you are inexperienced in relationships, is that expectations and dynamics change once you are in a romantic relationship. The expectations and ideals you have for a friend are different, and maybe even more lofty for someone you are dating. They become even more pronounced once you start living together.
Also, being a good friend and becoming a romantic partner are 2 different things, 2 different skill sets attributes. The qualities that made you a good friend doesn't necessarily translate into attraction. Attraction is mostly instinctual, gut feeling, subconscious; usually not logical. You notice in this talk that most of the focus is on whether to let their friend/crush know that they want to escalate the relationship to something romantic, and taking a blind shot in the dark; because there's a naive assumption that just because you are close as friends, it would automatically translate to a successful relationship. There is little talk in the sense of bettering oneself, making oneself a more attractive and understanding life-partner prospect, to increase the odds of success.
holy hell Taylor at 10:50 hit the nail on the head. I literally did this 2 days ago
Lunch break is so great. Thank you guys for making the series!
Kristin is my jam
For the first time I see Mike looks so serious in this lunch break lol
taylor and mike are the ultimate ship
Mike is 100% friendzoned
You guys are the best! Highlight of my lunch break!
Could you make more relationship videos, I feel we are going through relationships but don’t know what to do, what to say in different stages/ different situations, this kinda of videos helps a lot in navigating through relationships. Thanks for making such videos :)
wow not being able to tell if you're just friends or not **laughs in gay**
That is a really cute Charmander pic in your profile. ^^
Omg
Kirstin Leigh so bae.
This woman is Absolutely drop dead gorgeous
I've been in that situation before and I got turned down. I was so grateful though because I didn't want those feelings AT ALL because I knew we worked better as friends. Them turning me down needed to happen so that I could quash those feelings and we've been good friends ever since.
When I see Grace in HK, there is not much talking at all in real life, we only look each other in the eyes only 🖤🖤🖤
Hey look, a continuation of the first Lunch Break Ashley is on!
Kristin repping the Base Gray! I have that top too, and love it.
"She thinks he's hot too but with a Korean 'o' " 😂
"Lunch" break when it's dark outside, haha.
OMG I LOOOVE THIS EP. Also, I agree with Phil's school of thought.
Kristin is so relatable and admirable omfg
“Me or Emily!!” Lol!
whenever straight people have this debate, i feel like i'm watching a nature documentary
Just because someone catches feelings doesn't mean you cant still just be friends though! You dont have to pursue anything, and even if someone confesses, if they're decent, they can accept and move on with the friendship, even if they need a break to get rid of the feelings
- "You liking them is dependent on them not liking you." Damnnn...Taylor dropped a truth bomb. That seems common with girls.
- After watching this episode, I can't believe Mike and Kirstin aren't together lol
- Also, Kirstin is HOT af
Absolutely agree, regardless of the outCome do it. I confessed and get rejected once, after cooling down a bit via time, we become distant mate because I want to keep my distance but no longer have feelings for him. It’s about the power to walk away. I had another friend who confessed the other day, but he keep asking me if there’s any chance I can change my mind to like him, so desperate that I know I cannot be mate with him🙈
Mike and Kirstin are friends because they both understand and respect each other
Yes but....they cant get too close otherwise it may become one-sided...I have girls that are friends but I never try to push myself to them otherwise I or her will have feelings or think that the other has feelings and the relationship will end up horrible. Unless youre both very lucky and both parties really do have feelings for eachother and ditch the "friendship" for a "repationship"...yea impossible imo.
this video helped me so much thanks wongfu!
i have guy friends who are attractive and 'my type', but i'm so satisfied with our dynamic as being just friends that i would never think about ruining that by dating them
also i think it's possible to like someone and still remain friends! as long as they don't expect anything out of it, it's kinda cruel to say they have to end the friendship because of feelings that you can't control
i like my best friend but i know it's not going to happen, so we still hang out and talk as platonic friends do while i work on getting over those feelings. that still counts as a friendship, i think
Getting more matured I really stopped believing in a really CLOSE friendship between male and female. First of all, I started dating my first boyfriend when we got so close so we had to admit it's now just friendship because friends can't be so weirdly close. So, speaking of a guy and a girl who are BEST friends its really hard to draw the line between the attraction and friendship. Secondly, before meeting my boyfriend (fiancee) who I'm happily together with right now, I had a relatively close guy friend and we shared so much interests together and I'd like to be friends with him forever, but he just stopped contacting me after I got in relationship because he secretly liked me all the way through --- I knew it tbh but just treated him as a friend and thought he could compromise but he couldn't and just disappeared from my life. So yeah, now I' m convinced perhaps I can't be absolute besties with a guy friend, but normal (not-too-close) friendship is surely OK, I still have a lot of guy friends.
thats the true definition of a girl-guy platonic relationship when you can tell your female friend "damn, your sister is hot!"
While I generally believe it is pretty difficult for guys and girls to remain platonic for their entire relationship, I also know it's possible because my best friend (of well over 2 decades) is a girl and we really do treat each other like brother and sister. And while I know our relationship may be on the fringe of being an exception, it is possible, but only when both sides has reached that level of honesty and trust.
I have a lot of guy friends and most do end up confessing that they like me but I'm a lesbian so rejecting your best friends is awkward
Friendship goals! If it works it works. Since they're both adults in relationships already with mutual respect for one another, its possible to be best friends. You have to know where to draw the line... that's all
BEFORE I even watch the full thing I have always thought they look good together and they'll end up together at some point. My thoughts still remain AFTER. Kirstin's saying no, but Mike's body language says yes. Lol his face was so red throughout this. Also I think they know something Kirstin doesn't especially when Phil was saying the friendship can work if they mutually have no feelings for each other so it seemed he knows Mike's actually _attracted_ to her. I think Mike is hopeful that Kirstin changes her mind and gives him a chance to be more than just friends. And him liking Kirstin's sister is just a cover up. Anyway I totally ship it. I feel it's gonna happen!
she was married
Ricky Putra she's divorced or not with her husband anymore. Idk why you're bringing up because it's irrelevant. I found out about Kirstin after she separated
lol. I was actually noticing her hoodie the WHOLE time and was like: where is that from. But I just checked the website, and they are out of size Small and Medium. :(
Mike and Kirstin's ship sailing in 5, 4, 3, 2...
Hello MWF, writing about when the line is crossed if the guy or girl can be friends. You have not been married yet and when would you say you want the opposite to be in your circle as your good friend. Did you stand for Rupert Julia or Cameron in Best Friends Wedding. Julia was caught with emotions of her friend is leaving. Cameron was innocent - did you know if Julia can be friends(?) Elle for Dog Chat
Just thought I’d share as a girl that I’ve been in the situation where I was interested was trying to send signals and then ended up telling them about my feelings. Like Taylor it was a all cards in the table to get closure and move on if they weren’t interested. Even though they turned me down I’m glad I did it because it was so important just to be honest about my feelings. We’re still friends now so I’m happy with the outcome.
I subscribed to Kiirstin’s channel last night and through her I have found more awesome channel to subscribe 👍🏻
What they say is one thing but looking at their body language is something else. Based on the short interactions, it seems MB and KL has a very utopia view relationship but not a practical one which is the fuel behind their answers in this lunchbreak
Keep up your content, I am working in shepherdsville Kentucky which they don’t see this kind of shows, I just say my friends back home. Downey California
I'd say guy / girl friendships still work even if there is some attraction / feelings involved so long as you prioritise the friendship before anything else
"HE LIKES ME AND I DONT LIKE HIM AND THEN I LIKE HIM AND THEN HE DOESN'T LIKE ME SO NOW WE'RE JUST FRIENDS" OMG SAMEEE HAHAHA
In my personal view, between guy & girl, 'Good friends' and 'Best friends' are not the same kind of relationship and it's composed with different ingredients.
When guy and girl are friends, they forget the gender, but that hardly makes 'Best friend'.
[One side crush doesn't count in this] Good friends, Best friends(buddies) and Lovers are different kinds of 'Love'.
Best friends need more Love , Chemistry and Attractive (Physically & Mentally)
... or you can say that Best friends between guy & girl are more than just friends.
They are attracted to each other but with the realization that 'It won't be enough' or 'It won't work' as lovers.
So each of them kinda draws the line for himself/herself and keeps it.
However, "He/she is kind of my sub-type" so I enjoy hanging out with him/her.
[they can even feel mild degree of chicky or jealous sometimes especially when 3rd person involved]
And because of that, in critical moment or situation, many best friends accidentally unintentionally cross the line and screw up the relationship.
Moreover, because "He/she is kind of my sub-type", if you put them into the situation that they don't think they can pursue their 'my type' anymore
, like 'cast away' ... the balance of dynamic between this 'Best friends' will possibly shift to Lovers [easier than in the Good friends case].
In fact, we all know that Best friends is the closest thing to Lovers. It's also the most emotional involved relationship next to Lovers.
So..... can guy & girl be friends ??? .... It depends on which part of the spectrum of 'friends' you are talking about.
There's no spark in their eyes when they look at each other.
when Mike and Taylor look at each other you can see that. you can feel it! especially mike.
but that spark can be confused since they are like Best friends.
im a guy & my best friend is a girl but unfortunately i fell in love with her - one sided love to be exact...SMH
update:
she doesnt like me like that but were still best friends
I love Kirstin!! Also, I liked the way this episode was edited. :)
True platonic friendships is like hanging out with a sibling or cousin, you just don't see them in a reproductive way. However if I'm in a friendship and would feel attraction I still wouldn't act on it because a great friendship means more to me. Like you can choose to not act on feelings with for example the ex of a friend because you value the friendship more.
Ahhh.. How i wish wong fu could make another video like this with mike and amber 📹📹
Me second this lol
Phil's face at 8:35 is gold
I have had and still do have both really good guy and girl friends. In my younger school years, I actually had more guy friends because we just had more in common. As a married adult, I have more girl friends now that are like sisters to me.
I wanna see this mix!!
i felt so uncomfortable watching this. i feel like mike got something for kirsten deep down LMAO
10:09 "Hopeless romantic" 😂😂 R.I.P. Taylor's love life😂❤️
LOL Kristin "OHHHHH MY IVE JUST been doing this wrong then" same girl same >_
Kirstin is amazing. Cuz girl same. What is love? I wouldn't know either. But her personality is so fun and its like Phil and Tay are the elder brothers trying to explain dating.
Yoooo! You could make a wongfu short like DTR where best friends try and define what relationships they have because those around him or elderly siblings are explaining love to them. Just saying lol
PLANTONIC
Its impossible for me to have a female friend like Kristen. Like she is so attractive, humorous, and cool. I would slowly fall in love with her and turn out having crush on her.
They remind me of siblings
damn, 7:22 Taylor hit that nail in the friggin head
I love Tika Sumpter
Mike is so deep in the friend zone. He knows it.
She's married and has a kid I think
bell la she’s divorced with a kid. Single mom still a beauty tho
Perspective is EVERYTHING
When you’re friends with a gay guy and enjoy looking at attractive guys together and talking about relationships together
Yessss perfect night-outs with my gay bestie, just watching some hot guys passing by and making comments on them