It's actually wild how much of a noticable difference there is between the movement and aim between the console and pc players. The pc players just have so much flexibility compared to the console players. Console can't get anywhere near as fast the inputs that pc gets.
This also tells you how players using M&K on console literally destroyed the quality of the game. It took them nearly 9 years to address this issue in console R6.
Well yeah. The Way M&K is designed makes PC far easier to use. PC, you're using your entire arm over a flat plane. Point and click. On controller, you're using just your thumb on a 3D sphere
I wouls guess the reason pro teams might want to avoid 16yr players is if they travel internationally for tournaments it is harder liabilty wise for minors vs adults. Edit: After speaking to a friend he reminded me that in anywhere other than the US, Siege is rated Pegi 18+ so players have to be 18 to play officially.
22:30 Yes, console has a built in system that makes recoil easier on FPS games. I run angled grip on many weapons including lmgs, bosg, so it doesn't take a year to reload.
@@PrimalStunt Didn't say he was bad but I don't watch him. I only see him from VG's vids and from my perspective he's just one of the funny friends. So i'm surprised he's actually a champ
I still see Varsity confused about how Tubarao works, it freezes the batteries and claws while affected by the canister but doesn't turn them off, meaning, as soon as the Thatcher effect passes, they will INSTANTLY turn on, burning anything on the wall, that's why tricking with tubby is super easy
I think there's more going on. The Kaid claw is placed high up on the wall, and Tubarao's zoto canister was placed on the floor, covering the Thermite but not reaching the claw, guaranteeing the Thermite is destroyed.
Doesn't matter, works the same with Claws and batteries, so even if he froze the claw, as soon as the Zoto is done, the claw will immediately turn on, it literally doesn't matter. It only matters if they haven't activated the thermite charges becauW then thermite just removes the charge preventing the burn, but thats one of the niche scenarios
@tomandoagua5890 It does matter. If a shock wire or claw is frozen, it takes time to reactivate after thawing while the attacker gadgets are instantaneous. If a Thermite reaches halfway before it's frozen, it will still detonate because of the reactivation delay.
@@TheTbss89 rection time slowing down really only happens when you're way older like 40. people tend to get worse at stuff like this because they just stop caring
The only way for controller to compete against M&K in a first person shooter game is to have aim assist, and even with aim assist some games like CS and Siege would be tough for controller because movement and ability to flick is much easier on M&K.
Nah, you get some nasty flicks on console. The problem here is that this is a poor showing of console, for champs they're playing like my lobbies full of silvers.
With console and pc being able to plat with one another, is there anything that ever messes up? Like are there any latency bugs between platforms or movement bugs with consle beign able to slow walk?
The walking with controller in my experience (played for like 20 minutes with some of my buddies) is way more free than with mnk. Like with mnk you hahe either 100%, 50% or 0% movement, with joystick that changes it to where you can go at a snails pace while standing up, and making almost no noise.
@@BajoniGoblin254you can tap your keys to move slow , joystick has maybe that advantage but still if you have good ears , even small movements are easily heard so that doesn’t really matter tbh
@@spacetato1856Nope not on console. I could be prone and move slow enough with my joystick that I make literally 0 sound lol, even have a clip of me doing it saying “They don’t know I’m a snake” 😂😂 but that’s about the only advantage we have plus the easier recoil control lol
Should have got Roy and Evan to cast the game too, them 2 used to be console diamonds being switching to pc. They prob can give some insights for the console plays
@@Silento-yw4hw if you think someone has to be "better than pros" to be better than stompn you think stompn is "better than pros" how tf do you not understand that you wrote the mf thing
The difference is there but the dinamic was fun love it. I play on ps5 and i play on pc lobbies i could def tell the difference and even though i have good games sometimes i have more fun playing in pc lobbies cause the way its played. I started on Wind Bastion and did my return last season, this is the more fun i have had in the game.
You can see a clear difference in not just mechanical skill, but game sense and awareness between PC players and Console players. Since there's so much more flexibility on PC, it's much harder to actually clear positions and deal with utility/roamers due to utility being easier to use on PC. This builds much harder-to-beat awareness due to mechanical skill on console being limited by hardware. TL;DR Console < PC due to hardware limitations building poorer game sense.
As some1 who’s played both platforms on siege and other games and prefers pc it’s honestly nice but at the same time not fair in lots of ways to have crossplay. I love the concept I think it should just be allowed to turn off on all platforms and not just for console players. Yes pc has its advantages but so does console and yes the list for console is nothing close to the list for pc but any platform you play on you can compete with every1 just some matches will be harder than others and that has to do with a mix of reasons for that from skill to just flat out right the limits of an input device. This game will never be balanced for all platforms it’s just not physically possible while keeping the game the same concept/play style of game
I think up until about gold console would win since they come up with strats that help hold them up against their own poor aim and past that P.C. Should win.
I think this needs a rerun, 2 bugs cost console on 2nd map and they wrrent playing like champs at all. The knobs i play with in silver are about the same level, embarrassing display.
Well I've submitted. I put gold as highest but that was a carry I'm applying for copper I'm the Ø H1BANA if fsr you need a copper player still ill also say in twitch
Why are the emeralds and diamonds I play endlessly better than those Xbox champ scrubs. After the first round, they were quaking in their damn boots the whole time.
Hey varsity, I filled out a form and I would love to be in one of the videos or your copper video, I haven’t gotten out of copper till this season in which playing console lobbies I’m bronze 1 or something close and in pc I’m gold 5, other than that I’ve never played enough to get out of copper b4
Adept would really get out of kindergarten just to come home and use Jager acog
LMFAO yea 1st grade
It's actually wild how much of a noticable difference there is between the movement and aim between the console and pc players. The pc players just have so much flexibility compared to the console players. Console can't get anywhere near as fast the inputs that pc gets.
Of course, unless they use gyro controls.
Yeah obviously, that's a big reason they're separate.
This also tells you how players using M&K on console literally destroyed the quality of the game. It took them nearly 9 years to address this issue in console R6.
Well yeah. The Way M&K is designed makes PC far easier to use. PC, you're using your entire arm over a flat plane. Point and click. On controller, you're using just your thumb on a 3D sphere
@@muhammadammarrasyid5780 Are there many games that use gyro? I just found out about gyro controls but Im not on consoles
randoms on console have terrible chem, we dont have push to talk so everyone is always muted or spewing hatred to their teammates.
same on pc but probably not as much likely if u know what i mean
My headphones have an easy way to mute on them, it's super nice for playing console (you can fold the mic up)
ps5 controller has push to mute
this was so fun to play, thanks for the opportunity. GGs
I played a pc champ in my first pc game while on console. I could tell immediately that the difference is insane, everything was so quick, so precise.
Vardiddy got way too excited when he heard the kid was 14
@@xavbags6511 train them at a young age and they become pro basically
Siege at 6 years old is crazy. Fair plays to Adept though, he is cracked.
I wouls guess the reason pro teams might want to avoid 16yr players is if they travel internationally for tournaments it is harder liabilty wise for minors vs adults.
Edit: After speaking to a friend he reminded me that in anywhere other than the US, Siege is rated Pegi 18+ so players have to be 18 to play officially.
22:30 Yes, console has a built in system that makes recoil easier on FPS games. I run angled grip on many weapons including lmgs, bosg, so it doesn't take a year to reload.
Objectively false
@piupolino2618 It's fact.
@@piupolino2618 console has less recoil womp womp
The only thing that surprises me here is the fact that Cross is champ
Cross is not a bad player.
Cross is a professional 0.9KD champ
@@VarsityGaming i'm 0.97KD copper 🤔 this good or bad
@@Nestosixyou could easily beat varsity and cross
@@PrimalStunt Didn't say he was bad but I don't watch him. I only see him from VG's vids and from my perspective he's just one of the funny friends. So i'm surprised he's actually a champ
I already know who won before clicking on this video.
Typical pc fanboy. Probably steady riding copper though.
@@patrickmccurry5445 I haven’t played in years.
I want what your smoking lmao @@patrickmccurry5445
considering most console shooters have built-in aimbot in order to be playable, who would've guessed lol
@@patrickmccurry5445 good one burger
Lesion shotgun 1taps within 6 feet if you ads now.
I still see Varsity confused about how Tubarao works, it freezes the batteries and claws while affected by the canister but doesn't turn them off, meaning, as soon as the Thatcher effect passes, they will INSTANTLY turn on, burning anything on the wall, that's why tricking with tubby is super easy
I think there's more going on. The Kaid claw is placed high up on the wall, and Tubarao's zoto canister was placed on the floor, covering the Thermite but not reaching the claw, guaranteeing the Thermite is destroyed.
Doesn't matter, works the same with Claws and batteries, so even if he froze the claw, as soon as the Zoto is done, the claw will immediately turn on, it literally doesn't matter. It only matters if they haven't activated the thermite charges becauW then thermite just removes the charge preventing the burn, but thats one of the niche scenarios
@tomandoagua5890 It does matter. If a shock wire or claw is frozen, it takes time to reactivate after thawing while the attacker gadgets are instantaneous. If a Thermite reaches halfway before it's frozen, it will still detonate because of the reactivation delay.
@@grovePS3 its half a second, unless the Tubarao is super slow, it doesn't matter.
@@tomandoagua5890 You're completely wrong. Defender gadget reactivation is roughly 1.5 seconds, maybe slightly under.
Great content as always
I've been so excited about this ever since you mentioned it
Thanks for the invite! Had a lot of fun❤️
Someone call stompin we need a re-run 😂
10:12 at 9 I had an Nes and an Snes, it
Has faded into Irrelevance 😭
The nate guy going 0-6 first map has to go
Having adept on the pc team feels like cheating lol. Kid is nuts
Is that the 14 year old? Or who they talking about
@@TheTbss89 yes Adept is the 14 year old. Kid be playing siege most of his entire existence.
@ yea his 14 so his eyes are still good wait until his older and he has slow reaction time
@@TheTbss89 rection time slowing down really only happens when you're way older like 40.
people tend to get worse at stuff like this because they just stop caring
lmfao, preciate it
2:49 i can see all chat on console, but only type in team chat. I'm on xbox.
Team chat, not all chat
@PerplexdPumpkin i edited for correction
I can't even type like I know how you would do it but I can't do it, what witch craft are you performing
The only way for controller to compete against M&K in a first person shooter game is to have aim assist, and even with aim assist some games like CS and Siege would be tough for controller because movement and ability to flick is much easier on M&K.
Nah, you get some nasty flicks on console. The problem here is that this is a poor showing of console, for champs they're playing like my lobbies full of silvers.
Varsity, the new drift mechanic for drone is a learning curve but its very smooth on console and id even say stylish😂
I love this idea so much! I’m like a console silver gold so I can’t wait to see that match up
i can already tell this isnt going to be fair your need PC Emeralds vs concole champs
NO WAY CHARLIE IS IN THIS 😭😭😭🐐
Who is Charlie?
Squirtonator
@@TheTbss89 Squirtonator
Chesterfield
I miss his voice
This is such a good content, please do it more often
With console and pc being able to plat with one another, is there anything that ever messes up? Like are there any latency bugs between platforms or movement bugs with consle beign able to slow walk?
The walking with controller in my experience (played for like 20 minutes with some of my buddies) is way more free than with mnk. Like with mnk you hahe either 100%, 50% or 0% movement, with joystick that changes it to where you can go at a snails pace while standing up, and making almost no noise.
@@BajoniGoblin254you can tap your keys to move slow , joystick has maybe that advantage but still if you have good ears , even small movements are easily heard so that doesn’t really matter tbh
@@spacetato1856Nope not on console. I could be prone and move slow enough with my joystick that I make literally 0 sound lol, even have a clip of me doing it saying “They don’t know I’m a snake” 😂😂 but that’s about the only advantage we have plus the easier recoil control lol
Should have got Roy and Evan to cast the game too, them 2 used to be console diamonds being switching to pc. They prob can give some insights for the console plays
Your recommendation for opps to play Is
helping really good
Jynxzi who? Charlie is the real siege icon. Squirtinator gang baby, gotta represent
Hamcheese is so underrated he's such a good person and really fucking good at siege
Should’ve had STOMPN
He wouldn't agree to this his ego would never be the same 😂
@@Cat0nCraxk unless you think these players are better then pros he would’ve ran ts☠️
@@Silento-yw4hw stompn is NOT a pro 😭 all that jynxzi content got to your brain. He barely makes champ on PC Adept would butter his biscuits in this
@ when did I say he was a pro?
@@Silento-yw4hw if you think someone has to be "better than pros" to be better than stompn you think stompn is "better than pros" how tf do you not understand that you wrote the mf thing
So we in champion💀💀💀
8:20 we got stompn at home
observation blockers on club rafters would counter my garage drone since i place it right by the default cam
The difference is there but the dinamic was fun love it. I play on ps5 and i play on pc lobbies i could def tell the difference and even though i have good games sometimes i have more fun playing in pc lobbies cause the way its played. I started on Wind Bastion and did my return last season, this is the more fun i have had in the game.
Charlie CARRIED?????
(Last time I checked he was 13 and #3 champ on console)
no way squeaker charlie has made it onto your yt channel 🤣
Soon as I saw ktt on the console team I already knew the outcome
No way we got Charleyworley2 in a varsity gaming vid😭😭
That’s a sick charm adept has
Would be fun to try a tournament against other crappy players such as myself, I hope to get picked!
At 6 I was playing with my Gameboy Color and Sega... I feel old af now
when in spectator mode use the top down view to get all of the action
Unfortunately top down view is more difficult to use and clunky on MnK. Next time I may try using the controller.
Copper vs Copper, I could apply and Play for the PC team since I only played PC for like a month a few years back
now put stompin and spoit in
Adept would violate stompn ngl
Why are you called vardiddy?
You can see a clear difference in not just mechanical skill, but game sense and awareness between PC players and Console players.
Since there's so much more flexibility on PC, it's much harder to actually clear positions and deal with utility/roamers due to utility being easier to use on PC. This builds much harder-to-beat awareness due to mechanical skill on console being limited by hardware.
TL;DR Console < PC due to hardware limitations building poorer game sense.
Nintendo64 and Goldeneye 007, ohmygyat!1!
Adept was not needed
Am I miss-remembering, but if your on pc lobby, siege said you have pc recoil regardless if your on controller.
No, only xim users have PC recoil. Controller users still have controller recoil
@ Thanks for the info. I play controller, so I guess I’ll resubscribe to ps+ and do cross-play so I can get back to gold at least
Maybe not. I forgot I’d lose call outs
As some1 who’s played both platforms on siege and other games and prefers pc it’s honestly nice but at the same time not fair in lots of ways to have crossplay. I love the concept I think it should just be allowed to turn off on all platforms and not just for console players. Yes pc has its advantages but so does console and yes the list for console is nothing close to the list for pc but any platform you play on you can compete with every1 just some matches will be harder than others and that has to do with a mix of reasons for that from skill to just flat out right the limits of an input device. This game will never be balanced for all platforms it’s just not physically possible while keeping the game the same concept/play style of game
Good game goons
Honest guess @1:34 on the match. Console all around
Been playing siege since I was 9. Gonna graduate from high school this summer…
i was playing cod at 6 tbf lmao, wasn't online just w@w story mode but still, playing r6 at 6 years old doesn't seem that extreme
the question is how far of a rank difference it is when console champs win against pc players
You can toggle cronus and adjust the codes to where you can have negative recoil or just a little recoil
MY KING NATE
Lesion+shotgun is op on console dont need to aim half of the time
Can you do console champs versus PC diamonds? And work your way down if PC continues to win?
The six12 slaps on console in high ranks
They was probably the worse 5 console player you could of picked 😂😂😂
Observation blockers are amazing. In front of alibis, or to protect other utilities from bravas, as well as to just obstruct long lines for drones..
46 minute video hmmmmm, gonna go out on a limb and say it was a quick 2-0 for pc
Playing Siege since youre 6 is wild, what happened to watching cartoons and doing kid stuff man 😭
I play console and half my team always roams😂😂
Btw Varsity if you decide to do something like this I'm a great console player and i would love to participate in something like that
Bro Charlie!!!!!
Console Gold ready in wait
As an unranked can i apply for the copper lol
Can you do console champs versus PC diamonds
I think up until about gold console would win since they come up with strats that help hold them up against their own poor aim and past that P.C. Should win.
I think this needs a rerun, 2 bugs cost console on 2nd map and they wrrent playing like champs at all. The knobs i play with in silver are about the same level, embarrassing display.
Well I've submitted. I put gold as highest but that was a carry I'm applying for copper I'm the Ø H1BANA if fsr you need a copper player still ill also say in twitch
Why are the emeralds and diamonds I play endlessly better than those Xbox champ scrubs. After the first round, they were quaking in their damn boots the whole time.
“Quaking in their damn boots” speak like an actual person bro
@ get out more
Hey varsity, I filled out a form and I would love to be in one of the videos or your copper video, I haven’t gotten out of copper till this season in which playing console lobbies I’m bronze 1 or something close and in pc I’m gold 5, other than that I’ve never played enough to get out of copper b4
this is like a ranked 2.0 champ lobby not really a good champ lobby
Jynxi vs varsity......1v1
Varsity would butter his biscuits ngl
Is there any console cheaters with XIM in these matches?
yoo i just sign for copper les go
idk who the console guys are and why is royal penguin there!
I can do copper for either side lmao
Yo am I the only one who had cod3 at 4yrs old?????
Damn, if you need anyone for console silver-platinum lobbies in the future hit me up!
jager does not have barb
Jus give it some more time for console to get used to playing against pc
PC players GIGACHAD
This is why I use XIM.
(Jk, I’m on pc)
excited
Console can’t hear or type to anyone other than other console players.
I think gold console players would have a good chance
Day 135 of asking you to oil yourself up
When will console players learn
As a diamond console player, these guys look “slow” and very average.
Can i be in the copper video? Im a pc player and im copper
CHARLIEWORLEY4????
You can just tell he is just a little kid who yaps after every single round lol
get this 14 year old ona a team