Been using this head on maple drums for years and never had any issues. Never really crank the tuning, usually medium to medium high only. Sounds great!
@@SoundsLikeADrum First time I tried it I had a maple drum that I didn't like no matter the head combo or tuning... last head I tried was the Hybrid coated and it sounded amazing! Sold that drum years ago but I've kept using this head on maple drums from time to time. Sounds great and lasts 3-4 times as long as a standard head.
I’ve used the hybrid head on my 6.5x14 stave quarter swan Red Oak. And I have not found any issues with the fibers against the bearing edge. I love this head as that low phat tone as well. Great video as always guys.
Excellent! It certainly depends on the hardness of the wood (Red Oak being quite a bit harder than some of the Maple in use, for example) as well as the bearing edge design. I saw more than a handful of unfortunate scenarios when I was at Evans where customers has put this head on wooden edges and left textured ridges in the apex. Just don't want people to have to experience that sort of thing, even if it is remedied relatively easily with recutting the edges. Cheers! -Ben
@@SoundsLikeADrum that's right, they seem to have changed to description. I wonder why... I remember clearly that earlier they were openly referred as brass. Here's an interesting bit of info in the link below, seem like there are some steel ringed ones too out there. www.drummerworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=132574
Folks! I have been playing a very old, super thick marching drumhead on my regular Tama Snare made by REMO called the Falams K-Series Super, which my dad actually bought a long time ago. I've tuned it very low for THAT "Vultures - John Mayer" snare sound and I'm loving it! I don't have to put any kind of dampening, or application on the head to recreate the no-overtones-at-all vibe! Now that the head seems to approach the final stages of its lifespan, I'm desperately looking for an adequate replacement but I don't have a clue where to look for... Even the thickest regular snarehead REMO is making at the moment, the Emperor X, produces way more overtones than mine. The new Falams by REMO don't seem to be drumheads of the same gusto - much rather designed for high pitched-marching stuff - since mine for example has a coating which actually enables playing with brushes. Does anyone have experience with those Evans ones, or other similar products? I'm curious to know if they might be a good replacement for my old head. And does the Evans' coating enable playing with brushes aswell?
Congratulations, you just figured out how to do the Prince Simmons sound... BRILLIANT 😎. Oh gotta share this, I played a gig last night and I had an accident with my snare! OH NO... Well I got it fixed, tuned it in a couple of seconds, and WITHOUT tap tuning, or pitch referencing I got a fat, deep, low sound with LOADS of articulation and presence... and I’ve got NO idea how I did it!😂
Could you guys please adjust the angle of that tom-tom holding the plant? Maybe get out a level or something so it’s perfectly flat? Dang thing’s been bothering me for months.
Could you guys do a video on inter tom tuning (as in tuning multiple toms to make them sound good together), possibly aimed at people who know nothing about musical note stuff (like me)
Thanks for watching! It’s like playing on the WORKK side of the Reflexx pad or a really spongy surface- you have to work some wrist in there. I don’t use this sound for lots of notes so I’m usually not super concerned about the amount of rebound from it but it does remind you to work on similar surfaces. Cheers! -Ben
PLEASE TELL ME HOW THIS WENT? I have the same snare and have been looking for the ideal snare head for me for the sound i have in my head and this appears ideal from the videos i've been watching
@@elijones1161 Yeah but then he triggers his snare (which is fine) but doesn't give you a good idea of how it sounds. Anyway I did it and it's fucking dope
Thank you for the steady flow of amazingly informative videos gentlemen! Thank you greatly for pulling out the acro for the snare side video. It was really cool to see the old girl not to mention following your instruction my 1964 acrolite came to life and finally sounded like a snare drum should! On the opposite end of today's video could you do a video on some more vintage snare sounds? I'd be exceptionally grateful if you dug into 1940's through 1970's snare sounds. In one of my projects we do everything from 1970s bubble gum to The Rocky Horror Picture Show all the way back to Motown
I’ve used this head on a 14x5.5 Pearl sensitone for pep band. EASILY filled up an 18,000 seat arena with sound. (Videos on my channel of it with Memphis band)
Is there a Remo equivalent head? I prefer Remo drum heads on my toms and kick and I was wondering if there’s a way to get the same sound from any Remo heads.
I haven’t tried it with a Remo drumhead before but I would imagine using the Cybermax would get you in a similar range but you’d have to experiment for sure. One of the reasons why Evans heads are used throughout these videos is because I have an intimate knowledge of them that I don’t have of any other brand. As a result, I can offer much more detail regarding the design, the capabilities, combinations, etc. -Ben
I don’t know as much about remo, but I’d be open to trying other brands. As satisfying as it is to have all your heads have the same name on them, I’ve overtime started using many different branded heads on different drum. I have Evans G2 Coated heads on my toms, a Remo Powerstroke on the snare (with a big fat snare), and a Evans E-mad Coated on the kick. All together the sound great. I have friends that have Aquarian on on tom and Evans on another, so I would look at more at the sound you’re trying to get than sticking to a brand.
I’d recommend going to your guitar center/ken Stanton/ or retail drum store and just mess around with the drum heads. Take them out of the boxes and just kinda tap on the center. You can learn a lot about the note and sound you’re trying to get from that. I used to use Remo Pinstripes on almost everything but the kick, but then I started getting more interested in tone rather than punch, and found a great inbetween with Evans clear hydraulics cause of inner oil muffling inbetween the plys.
I know none of this answers your question lol, but I hope this may lead you to maybe opening your eyes to other brands. Can’t hurt to try new things lol
Not sure if this is still helpful but my drumline uses the Remo black max heads which are equivalent to the Evans hybrid heads, I personally own both and prefer the Remo over the Evans.
This is the Hybrid Coated Drum Set Snare version. You wouldn't want to use the marching version as the top laminate will separate from the fibers faster under lower tensions (compared to the seriously high tension of marching snares).
Question here. I'm a fan to Robert Sput Searight snare sound (the right side snare, the low one). That floor-tom sound when the snare's off, and that BIG FAT punchy snare drum when the snare's on, the sounds are just crazy good! Do you have any reference or knowledge about the tuning and the reso head he's using?? I can't find them anywhere. PS: I know he's using Evans Hydraulic Blue on the batter side.
Not sure what snare side head/snare wire combo he's using but I'd recommend watching Ep. 28 on the effects cranking the snare side head along with our other snare side/snare wire videos since we talk about the value of lowering the snare side tension in order to achieve a great range and body of sound. That's super important here. -Ben
No, it's fine. You may have heard about the early version of the marching Hybrid reso, which is 2 layers of thin mylar with a net of aramid fibers sandwiched between to resist stretching - the fibers dug into the bearing edge, so Evans added an underlay ring that fixed the problem. Your biggest danger is tightening the head so much that you crush the shell or break tension casings.
Hey there! I hesitate to say 'best' because each drum is different and will interact with a given head in its own way, but I think if you want a fat sound and are also a hard hitter the Hybrid is a great choice. It'll have a much longer lifespan for sure. My go-to for fat/low snare sounds is either a standard two-ply or center-dot head with a little muffling, but if i'm gonna be swinging hard with big sticks i'll go for this instead. - Cody
I play in a brass band and the most experienced percussionist there. That doesn’t mean I’m good though or know what I’m doing. I play everything pretty good but it’s my job to keep all the percussion instruments in check. I have to find a new snare head batter and reso. But the marching snares are quite old and has wood hoops. Can anyone point me in the direction I should be?
Cool video. I'm not particularly fond of the sound of low tuned snares. But I understand the concept. Preference, and application. I love a sharp, crisp high pitched snare. It cuts through the mix, especially if you play unmicd most of the time.
Yep, this is not really a head for large spaces without a close microphone and even then, you have to hit pretty hard for it to protect over a band acoustically. That’s another reason why I like to geek out over the sonic capabilities in a controlled studio environment. Cheers! -Ben
I bought this head recently and right out of the box it had wrinkles and it doesn't tune up easily. I was very disappointed because it's an expensive head and I love evans. I also have a dw edge snare
Remember that it’s not going to tune or perform like a standard plastic head. Approach tensioning in small increments. Don’t worry about wrinkles in the head unless they don’t go away after minimal tension is applied. -Ben
@@SoundsLikeADrum actually,.. I wanna try and figure out what sound can i get by doing that, i don't know if someone has ever done that 🤔 I did it with toms and sounds cool but i don't know about the snare so...
PDP 12x8 limited dry maple snare, dark walnut finish, if u can get one it will do that super low splat, sample sounds and so much more. It actually functions as an amazing tom in the first rack position (on a snare stand) and the mag throw off is just so perfect for a quick change by flipping it with your stick. Stock heads are actually really good. I'll be looking to experiment when I change them but it works tuned low out of the box as is. Check it out in person if you can. They're inexpensive too.
Asahi Compo heads anyone? I actually had considered trying to make some sort of canvas head for my kid's drum set a while back - hoping they'd make some drum noise but nowhere near as much. This has my interest up - maybe I'll try a duck head on the Supralite - I guess I'd need some sort of "flesh hoop" to hold it.
onanskiespg I have it on my Bronze snare drum yes. Follow Ben’s tuning advice here and I think you’ll like it, if you want it to sound similar to the Edge in this video. Good luck!
I mean, they’re a totally different beast from your standard plastic drumhead and they’ll outlast them by quite a bit. You’d also be hard pressed to find another head that could do what this one does. -Ben
@@SoundsLikeADrum I hear ya Ben. I've often considered getting heads like these to experiment, but wasn't sure how they'd sound. It's good that you make these vidjas before I run out and waste my cash. 😂👍
Ugh I love this channel but I hate is when the word "tune" is used when it comes to drums cause it's so misleading to beginners. Ya don't "tune" the head of a drum u "tension" the head on a drum
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Sput was the first guy I saw using this head a long time ago, his deep snare sound is amazing
on his first floor tom/snare?
does this dude ever blink ??
jk love you guys. great content as usual.
😳 Ha! Never noticed. I think I tend to bury them in the jump cuts along with the "ums" and "uhs". Thanks for watching! -Ben
I went back and watch first 0.50 seconds and he blinds once.....lol
He only blinks when you do.
Thangz >
Been using this head on maple drums for years and never had any issues. Never really crank the tuning, usually medium to medium high only. Sounds great!
Way cool! Glad to hear it. What was it that attracted you to the head? -Ben
@@SoundsLikeADrum First time I tried it I had a maple drum that I didn't like no matter the head combo or tuning... last head I tried was the Hybrid coated and it sounded amazing! Sold that drum years ago but I've kept using this head on maple drums from time to time. Sounds great and lasts 3-4 times as long as a standard head.
I’ve used the hybrid head on my 6.5x14 stave quarter swan Red Oak. And I have not found any issues with the fibers against the bearing edge. I love this head as that low phat tone as well. Great video as always guys.
Excellent! It certainly depends on the hardness of the wood (Red Oak being quite a bit harder than some of the Maple in use, for example) as well as the bearing edge design. I saw more than a handful of unfortunate scenarios when I was at Evans where customers has put this head on wooden edges and left textured ridges in the apex. Just don't want people to have to experience that sort of thing, even if it is remedied relatively easily with recutting the edges. Cheers! -Ben
You guys read my mind. I've been wondering what an Evans Hybrid sounds like tuned super low. This is super helpful. Thanks!
Fun to hear a drummer talk about pitch
A video with the different tuning ranges on this head would be very nice
The rings on DW Edges are chromed brass.
There ya go! Their product information refers to it as a special DW alloy. -Ben
@@SoundsLikeADrum that's right, they seem to have changed to description. I wonder why...
I remember clearly that earlier they were openly referred as brass. Here's an interesting bit of info in the link below, seem like there are some steel ringed ones too out there.
www.drummerworld.com/forums/showthread.php?t=132574
Folks! I have been playing a very old, super thick marching drumhead on my regular Tama Snare made by REMO called the Falams K-Series Super, which my dad actually bought a long time ago. I've tuned it very low for THAT "Vultures - John Mayer" snare sound and I'm loving it! I don't have to put any kind of dampening, or application on the head to recreate the no-overtones-at-all vibe!
Now that the head seems to approach the final stages of its lifespan, I'm desperately looking for an adequate replacement but I don't have a clue where to look for... Even the thickest regular snarehead REMO is making at the moment, the Emperor X, produces way more overtones than mine.
The new Falams by REMO don't seem to be drumheads of the same gusto - much rather designed for high pitched-marching stuff - since mine for example has a coating which actually enables playing with brushes.
Does anyone have experience with those Evans ones, or other similar products? I'm curious to know if they might be a good replacement for my old head. And does the Evans' coating enable playing with brushes aswell?
Really cool head, never heard of it, but it has a killer sound
Keep the good work 👌
Sounds so cool!!!
I’ve liked the Hybrid on carbon and metal snares. Usually with med hi tension. Lots of crack surprising amount of ring
Congratulations, you just figured out how to do the Prince Simmons sound... BRILLIANT 😎. Oh gotta share this, I played a gig last night and I had an accident with my snare! OH NO... Well I got it fixed, tuned it in a couple of seconds, and WITHOUT tap tuning, or pitch referencing I got a fat, deep, low sound with LOADS of articulation and presence... and I’ve got NO idea how I did it!😂
Great video! I have always been curious about this head. My questions have been answered.
Cool & informative!
Loving these experimemt videos!
Thanks! There will be more of the “off the beaten path” videos in the future. -Ben
Could you guys please adjust the angle of that tom-tom holding the plant? Maybe get out a level or something so it’s perfectly flat? Dang thing’s been bothering me for months.
We appreciate your attention to detail and hope your drums sound fantastic. -Ben
👍👍👍👍👍👍👍Dude awesome!!!!! I am grateful for this episode.
Could you guys do a video on inter tom tuning (as in tuning multiple toms to make them sound good together), possibly aimed at people who know nothing about musical note stuff (like me)
Another fascinating review. What kind of stick response will a loose head return?
Thanks guys for the original content, please keep it rolling.
Thanks for watching! It’s like playing on the WORKK side of the Reflexx pad or a really spongy surface- you have to work some wrist in there. I don’t use this sound for lots of notes so I’m usually not super concerned about the amount of rebound from it but it does remind you to work on similar surfaces. Cheers! -Ben
😊@@SoundsLikeADrum
Hmm, this could be very nice on my Pearl Joey Jordison steel snare. 🤔
PLEASE TELL ME HOW THIS WENT? I have the same snare and have been looking for the ideal snare head for me for the sound i have in my head and this appears ideal from the videos i've been watching
66samus did it
@@elijones1161 Yeah but then he triggers his snare (which is fine) but doesn't give you a good idea of how it sounds.
Anyway I did it and it's fucking dope
That's what I'm playing.
Sounds killer, almost machine gun like when I do blast beats.
Thank you for the steady flow of amazingly informative videos gentlemen! Thank you greatly for pulling out the acro for the snare side video. It was really cool to see the old girl not to mention following your instruction my 1964 acrolite came to life and finally sounded like a snare drum should! On the opposite end of today's video could you do a video on some more vintage snare sounds? I'd be exceptionally grateful if you dug into 1940's through 1970's snare sounds. In one of my projects we do everything from 1970s bubble gum to The Rocky Horror Picture Show all the way back to Motown
Cheers! We’ll dig into some more vintage inspired sounds in the future. -Ben
I’ve used this head on a 14x5.5 Pearl sensitone for pep band. EASILY filled up an 18,000 seat arena with sound. (Videos on my channel of it with Memphis band)
Good hands!
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Is there a Remo equivalent head? I prefer Remo drum heads on my toms and kick and I was wondering if there’s a way to get the same sound from any Remo heads.
I haven’t tried it with a Remo drumhead before but I would imagine using the Cybermax would get you in a similar range but you’d have to experiment for sure. One of the reasons why Evans heads are used throughout these videos is because I have an intimate knowledge of them that I don’t have of any other brand. As a result, I can offer much more detail regarding the design, the capabilities, combinations, etc. -Ben
I don’t know as much about remo, but I’d be open to trying other brands. As satisfying as it is to have all your heads have the same name on them, I’ve overtime started using many different branded heads on different drum. I have Evans G2 Coated heads on my toms, a Remo Powerstroke on the snare (with a big fat snare), and a Evans E-mad Coated on the kick. All together the sound great. I have friends that have Aquarian on on tom and Evans on another, so I would look at more at the sound you’re trying to get than sticking to a brand.
I’d recommend going to your guitar center/ken Stanton/ or retail drum store and just mess around with the drum heads. Take them out of the boxes and just kinda tap on the center. You can learn a lot about the note and sound you’re trying to get from that. I used to use Remo Pinstripes on almost everything but the kick, but then I started getting more interested in tone rather than punch, and found a great inbetween with Evans clear hydraulics cause of inner oil muffling inbetween the plys.
I know none of this answers your question lol, but I hope this may lead you to maybe opening your eyes to other brands. Can’t hurt to try new things lol
Not sure if this is still helpful but my drumline uses the Remo black max heads which are equivalent to the Evans hybrid heads, I personally own both and prefer the Remo over the Evans.
Is this the actual marching snare head? Or the evans Hybrid actually designed for a kit snare?
This is the Hybrid Coated Drum Set Snare version. You wouldn't want to use the marching version as the top laminate will separate from the fibers faster under lower tensions (compared to the seriously high tension of marching snares).
Question here. I'm a fan to Robert Sput Searight snare sound (the right side snare, the low one). That floor-tom sound when the snare's off, and that BIG FAT punchy snare drum when the snare's on, the sounds are just crazy good! Do you have any reference or knowledge about the tuning and the reso head he's using?? I can't find them anywhere.
PS: I know he's using Evans Hydraulic Blue on the batter side.
Not sure what snare side head/snare wire combo he's using but I'd recommend watching Ep. 28 on the effects cranking the snare side head along with our other snare side/snare wire videos since we talk about the value of lowering the snare side tension in order to achieve a great range and body of sound. That's super important here. -Ben
@@SoundsLikeADrum thank you, I think it will help me. will watch it
I've heard the Hybrid head can eat away at the bearing edge of a snare drum. Is that true??
No, it's fine. You may have heard about the early version of the marching Hybrid reso, which is 2 layers of thin mylar with a net of aramid fibers sandwiched between to resist stretching - the fibers dug into the bearing edge, so Evans added an underlay ring that fixed the problem. Your biggest danger is tightening the head so much that you crush the shell or break tension casings.
How about a show on tuning a 10” snare drum
Nice video, so in your opinion the Hybrid Head is the best for a fat snare sound?
Hey there! I hesitate to say 'best' because each drum is different and will interact with a given head in its own way, but I think if you want a fat sound and are also a hard hitter the Hybrid is a great choice. It'll have a much longer lifespan for sure. My go-to for fat/low snare sounds is either a standard two-ply or center-dot head with a little muffling, but if i'm gonna be swinging hard with big sticks i'll go for this instead. - Cody
@@SoundsLikeADrum thanks so much!
That sounds rad! It’s a thumper 🐇
I play in a brass band and the most experienced percussionist there. That doesn’t mean I’m good though or know what I’m doing. I play everything pretty good but it’s my job to keep all the percussion instruments in check. I have to find a new snare head batter and reso. But the marching snares are quite old and has wood hoops. Can anyone point me in the direction I should be?
Cool video. I'm not particularly fond of the sound of low tuned snares. But I understand the concept. Preference, and application. I love a sharp, crisp high pitched snare. It cuts through the mix, especially if you play unmicd most of the time.
I like that it has a low fat thunk without the bloopy note that can sometimes plague low tuned snares.
@@nate6692 Hey bud, entresting reply. What kind of music do you play?
80's rock, which was all done on 14" mylar heads, plus a ton of processing. But i just have this thing for huge bombastic snares.
Yep, this is not really a head for large spaces without a close microphone and even then, you have to hit pretty hard for it to protect over a band acoustically. That’s another reason why I like to geek out over the sonic capabilities in a controlled studio environment. Cheers! -Ben
I bought this head recently and right out of the box it had wrinkles and it doesn't tune up easily. I was very disappointed because it's an expensive head and I love evans. I also have a dw edge snare
Remember that it’s not going to tune or perform like a standard plastic head. Approach tensioning in small increments. Don’t worry about wrinkles in the head unless they don’t go away after minimal tension is applied. -Ben
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snares off almost sounded like a kick. ... makes me really want evans hybrid heads in 20" for my kicks.
Anyone ever use this on a floor tom?
Does anyone have use a batter head as "resonant head"? 🤔... I've been thinking about it 😂
What are you trying to achieve as far as sound/performance?
@@SoundsLikeADrum actually,.. I wanna try and figure out what sound can i get by doing that, i don't know if someone has ever done that 🤔 I did it with toms and sounds cool but i don't know about the snare so...
PDP 12x8 limited dry maple snare, dark walnut finish, if u can get one it will do that super low splat, sample sounds and so much more. It actually functions as an amazing tom in the first rack position (on a snare stand) and the mag throw off is just so perfect for a quick change by flipping it with your stick. Stock heads are actually really good. I'll be looking to experiment when I change them but it works tuned low out of the box as is. Check it out in person if you can. They're inexpensive too.
Awww 13 and 14 only. No 15's or it'd be a great head for my supralite.
Just gonna have to get one more snare... 😉 -Ben
I still have one 14, but its wood. 😒 When you do the tuned up version, itd be awesome to hear it in both shallow and deep snares.
Asahi Compo heads anyone? I actually had considered trying to make some sort of canvas head for my kid's drum set a while back - hoping they'd make some drum noise but nowhere near as much. This has my interest up - maybe I'll try a duck head on the Supralite - I guess I'd need some sort of "flesh hoop" to hold it.
That’s ironic! I just put this head on my 6.5x14 Gretsch USA Custom Bronze and will be playing this drum in my Abba tribute band!
Have you tried this on your custom bronze? Hows the sound?
Can you give tips? also have custom bronze
Thanks
onanskiespg I have it on my Bronze snare drum yes. Follow Ben’s tuning advice here and I think you’ll like it, if you want it to sound similar to the Edge in this video. Good luck!
Fat sound for sure. I’d love to see this head tuned in the mid and high ranges.
That’ll definitely have to be a thing in the future. Cheers! -Ben
I don’t care for all that slop in my snare. I more of a crack
Those heads are too expensive.
I mean, they’re a totally different beast from your standard plastic drumhead and they’ll outlast them by quite a bit. You’d also be hard pressed to find another head that could do what this one does. -Ben
@@SoundsLikeADrum I hear ya Ben. I've often considered getting heads like these to experiment, but wasn't sure how they'd sound. It's good that you make these vidjas before I run out and waste my cash. 😂👍
Ugh I love this channel but I hate is when the word "tune" is used when it comes to drums cause it's so misleading to beginners. Ya don't "tune" the head of a drum u "tension" the head on a drum