Absolutely splendid video! Loved all your observations. I can't resist adding a few of my own... 1) "Emmegation"? Apparently, I didn't get the memo about this hot new spelling of "emigration" as debuted in the first clip. Also, although it began in the Victorian era, the practice of sending children from care homes overseas continued well into the mid-20th century and wasn't abolished entirely until 1970. 2) Misdiagnoses of mental health conditions scarcely matter in cases where no effective treatments existed, and where the behaviour was sufficiently abnormal as to warrant confinement anyway. With regard to the "self pleasuring" which is so frequently mentioned in these videos, we never hear about the context, which was almost certainly that the person was doing this publicly or indiscreetly. 3) I'm so tired of these channels dredging up a few bizarre, little attested, and possibly heavily localised folk remedies and extrapolating them into having been considered best practice by medical professional for the whole of the Victorian period. It's like presuming a Pinterest sage gargle recipe for a sore throat is the same way Johns Hopkins would treat a case of tonsilitis.
That list of "reasons why people could be locked away in mental asylums", as far as I have seen, was curated from mental hospital records where the staff at the hospital interviewed the patients themselves, and *the patient themself gave the reasons why they had been brought to the hospital*! For the most part, it wasn't the evil relatives of the patient who were giving these random reasons for committing the patient to the hospital, and the doctors and nurses just accepting it! My own grandmother spent a short time in a mental hospital in the 1960s after her mother died, and she wasn't able to be there at her mother's bedside and say goodbye one last time. She couldn't stop crying, and her brothers took her to the hospital to get some help, for about a week, until my grandfather arrived in town (a 4-day train trip away) and got her out. All she would tell the doctor, to explain why she was crying so much, was "I wasn't there when my mother died; she didn't get to see me one last time." What she didn't say was that she was the only daughter, and the only one of her mother's children who had moved out of state, and that her mother had physically protected her from her abusive father on a daily basis while her father was alive. Not being there so that her mother could see her one last time made her feel like she had abandoned the mother who had sacrificed so much for her. I can totally understand the depth and intensity of her grief and self-blaming (although it wasn't her fault, she was on the train on the way there when her mother died), but the doctor couldn't, and her hospital records reflected that!
In the 21st century they had an extreme devotion to the Kardashian family. All women wanted to be them. All men wanted to marry them…..shudders for our history….
People positively cannot comprehend that "This thing happened" does not imply that the thing happened commonly or even more than once, for Pete's sake...
From Antiquity to Early America Urine was used to wash clothing. It naturally had ammonia in it and could get stains out so they rinse the clothes in urine than water to get the urine out. To us this seems gross but for centuries it was the only way to keep clothes clean and thus last longer. Just because it seems strange to us doesn't mean it didn't serve a purpose once upon a time.
Death photography happens today, I’ve known a photographer who did it as his sole line of focus, and several mothers to remember their children who passed. I don’t like how grieving practices that are harmless are treated as sensational.
There is at least one charity that specializes in taking portraits of stillborn babies and newborns who die within a short time after birth. My cousin and his wife lost a newborn daughter to encephaly about 16 years ago and they treasure their portraits with their baby and older daughters. It's definitely still a thing, although I believe their portraits were taken during the hour that their daughter was still alive.
The thing about mental asylums really bugs me, because I myself was given an inaccurate diagnosis and institutionalized against my will... in 2011. It didn't stop with the Victorians! And more broadly, when a lot of these asylums shut down in the 1960s, the government never funded a better replacement, so the same people just started getting thrown into jails and prisons. This continues today, with a majority of people locked in our prisons having mental health problems. It's really not different from the old insane asylums. In fact it might be worse!
During the slave years in the US after trading was illegal baby farming on the plantation were so common that yes baby farming for more slaves did happen
I think it would be cool to see a parody video that shows how clickbait channels like the one you mention would portray the 20th or 21st century in a hundred years time. Would they make out it was normal for all of us to poison our faces with botox and only communicate via social media
I see that I’m early enough to the game that not many of us have enjoyed his video. I just want to say thank you for keeping history interesting and busting a few myths.
Natural chalk is NOT a dangerous food additive. It has been used in many times and places as a calcium supplement, especially by pregnant women. However, I definitely would not recommend eating processed sticks of chalk, because there's no telling what's in those! Not that I'm actually recommending eating unprocessed chalk, either. 😄
Once those mentally ill people's prisons sentences are over, they're tossed out onto the streets as well. They end up living like animals: fending for themselves and foraging for food.
To be fair, I don't think at-home manuals for medicine would be the place where you'd find mentions of human remains being incorporated into medical treatments. Who, except a doctor, has access to the corpses of executed criminals (people who committed suicide included)? If it's mentioned anywhere it would be written for professionals, not just anyone. What sprung to my mind when they mentioned this (especially since using an illustration of mummification) was how people made cosmetics with mummy parts, but I'm not sure when this begun. Probably post-Victorian era, or very late.
Hi, good to see another video from you, even though one likely isn't going to love all videos ones favorite RUclipss but out, which was the case for me with this one. Honestly, as seemingly annoyed as you were with the video you reacted to, I kinda got with your reacting. The whole point of her video was to point out things that occurred in Victorian times that seem strange to us today (emphasis on strange only). For the most part she's not commenting on their prevalence. You keep saying "X was not common" as if she said it was. She's mostly stating that these things occurred, not that they all occurred often/commonly. In regards to corpse medicine, I think she might have the Smithsonian as her source, since the Smithsonian article I found pertaining to corpse medicine lists the exact same two cases (young woman's skull and human fat candle) as she does. If it's something you care about I want to advice that (to me at least), you in this video come across as a bit judgmental and superior towards the video/person you're reacting to. Like your knowledge and interpretation of Victorian times is more accurate and superior. Maybe you don't agree with that assessment or maybe you don't care if you come across as such 🤷♀ but I thought I would bring it to your attention 🙂
Thanks for the feedback. The purpose of this video wasn’t to say that she was wrong or lying, this video was intended to go along with her video, and point out that, while she’s right that all of these things did happen, they weren’t very common. I know she didn’t claim they were common, but she also didn’t clarify that most of these things were quite uncommon, so I was just trying to add that clarification. It was not my intention to come across as condescending or judgmental. I was sort of tired and frustrated (for unrelated reasons) when I filmed this video, and I think that frustration bled through into my commentary a little bit. The lesson is that I should wait to film until I’m in a good mood, even if that means a video is going to be a couple of days late.
@@AdelaideBeemanWhite I agree that she didn't clarify that most things mentioned were quite uncommon and she did sensationalise some of it, so that's an aspect of your video that deserves praise 😊👍
Sometimes I really think so many of these people approach things of the past with their noses up in the air at them, thinking that our modern times were just so much better and a lot of times purposely exaggerate or misconstrue the facts and, as she did, put things into an era that weren't even a part of that time to basically point and laugh and feel superior 🙄. Really it's just irritating and shows the arrogance of the person.
Where in the world did this girl get these "facts"? Does this mean I should throw out my arsenic? Like, you never know when it's needed on a guy who bought a slightly used wife??
I can totally feel your annoyance, i.e., "emmegation," depictions from wrong eras, and things within her countdown just being simply untrue. I'll refrain from sharing what I actually thought of her and her top ten list. 🙄 But they both start with "tw."
Absolutely splendid video! Loved all your observations. I can't resist adding a few of my own...
1) "Emmegation"? Apparently, I didn't get the memo about this hot new spelling of "emigration" as debuted in the first clip. Also, although it began in the Victorian era, the practice of sending children from care homes overseas continued well into the mid-20th century and wasn't abolished entirely until 1970.
2) Misdiagnoses of mental health conditions scarcely matter in cases where no effective treatments existed, and where the behaviour was sufficiently abnormal as to warrant confinement anyway. With regard to the "self pleasuring" which is so frequently mentioned in these videos, we never hear about the context, which was almost certainly that the person was doing this publicly or indiscreetly.
3) I'm so tired of these channels dredging up a few bizarre, little attested, and possibly heavily localised folk remedies and extrapolating them into having been considered best practice by medical professional for the whole of the Victorian period. It's like presuming a Pinterest sage gargle recipe for a sore throat is the same way Johns Hopkins would treat a case of tonsilitis.
That list of "reasons why people could be locked away in mental asylums", as far as I have seen, was curated from mental hospital records where the staff at the hospital interviewed the patients themselves, and *the patient themself gave the reasons why they had been brought to the hospital*! For the most part, it wasn't the evil relatives of the patient who were giving these random reasons for committing the patient to the hospital, and the doctors and nurses just accepting it!
My own grandmother spent a short time in a mental hospital in the 1960s after her mother died, and she wasn't able to be there at her mother's bedside and say goodbye one last time. She couldn't stop crying, and her brothers took her to the hospital to get some help, for about a week, until my grandfather arrived in town (a 4-day train trip away) and got her out. All she would tell the doctor, to explain why she was crying so much, was "I wasn't there when my mother died; she didn't get to see me one last time." What she didn't say was that she was the only daughter, and the only one of her mother's children who had moved out of state, and that her mother had physically protected her from her abusive father on a daily basis while her father was alive. Not being there so that her mother could see her one last time made her feel like she had abandoned the mother who had sacrificed so much for her. I can totally understand the depth and intensity of her grief and self-blaming (although it wasn't her fault, she was on the train on the way there when her mother died), but the doctor couldn't, and her hospital records reflected that!
In the 21st century they had an extreme devotion to the Kardashian family. All women wanted to be them. All men wanted to marry them…..shudders for our history….
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People positively cannot comprehend that "This thing happened" does not imply that the thing happened commonly or even more than once, for Pete's sake...
Chimney sweeps also still exist.
From Antiquity to Early America Urine was used to wash clothing. It naturally had ammonia in it and could get stains out so they rinse the clothes in urine than water to get the urine out.
To us this seems gross but for centuries it was the only way to keep clothes clean and thus last longer.
Just because it seems strange to us doesn't mean it didn't serve a purpose once upon a time.
Death photography happens today, I’ve known a photographer who did it as his sole line of focus, and several mothers to remember their children who passed. I don’t like how grieving practices that are harmless are treated as sensational.
There is at least one charity that specializes in taking portraits of stillborn babies and newborns who die within a short time after birth. My cousin and his wife lost a newborn daughter to encephaly about 16 years ago and they treasure their portraits with their baby and older daughters. It's definitely still a thing, although I believe their portraits were taken during the hour that their daughter was still alive.
Chimney sweeps still exist! Rare, but they literally fix and clean chimneys!
I’m a lil too excited bout chimney related professions, apparently, sorry. 😊
I mean, if you have a chimney, you really MUST have it cleaned periodically. Sooty chimneys cause house fires. D:
I just commented this very thing. LOL.
I'm literally just about to hire one to sweep the flue on my woodburner. 😄
People genuinely think people in the past were stupid. It is shocking every time.
People have to exaggerate about a subject that they don't know enough about to make the real truth interesting.
Lol, “saw dust” aka cellulose is put in cheese and granolas and such today. Human hair in pretty much all commercial bread as l-cysteine.
The thing about mental asylums really bugs me, because I myself was given an inaccurate diagnosis and institutionalized against my will... in 2011. It didn't stop with the Victorians!
And more broadly, when a lot of these asylums shut down in the 1960s, the government never funded a better replacement, so the same people just started getting thrown into jails and prisons. This continues today, with a majority of people locked in our prisons having mental health problems. It's really not different from the old insane asylums. In fact it might be worse!
Inorganic lead ingested isn’t metabolized, it’s pooped out. Organic lead in paint dust is the trouble.
During the slave years in the US after trading was illegal baby farming on the plantation were so common that yes baby farming for more slaves did happen
I think it would be cool to see a parody video that shows how clickbait channels like the one you mention would portray the 20th or 21st century in a hundred years time. Would they make out it was normal for all of us to poison our faces with botox and only communicate via social media
You read my mind. . .
I see that I’m early enough to the game that not many of us have enjoyed his video. I just want to say thank you for keeping history interesting and busting a few myths.
I appreciate that!
Natural chalk is NOT a dangerous food additive. It has been used in many times and places as a calcium supplement, especially by pregnant women. However, I definitely would not recommend eating processed sticks of chalk, because there's no telling what's in those! Not that I'm actually recommending eating unprocessed chalk, either. 😄
Stayed out of sun to have that porcelain look ,beautiful
Maybe Bumble Bee chose to go to beauty school instead college-LOL! Good video. THX
Victorians would be traumatised if they saw the things that are normalised today.
Thank you
You're welcome
We are so weird as a society NOW just imagine what our legacy will be 😮
Just goes to show how much tosh is put up as truth! And usually when a wife went up for sale it was a pre arrangement between the people involved
Once those mentally ill people's prisons sentences are over, they're tossed out onto the streets as well. They end up living like animals: fending for themselves and foraging for food.
To be fair, I don't think at-home manuals for medicine would be the place where you'd find mentions of human remains being incorporated into medical treatments. Who, except a doctor, has access to the corpses of executed criminals (people who committed suicide included)? If it's mentioned anywhere it would be written for professionals, not just anyone.
What sprung to my mind when they mentioned this (especially since using an illustration of mummification) was how people made cosmetics with mummy parts, but I'm not sure when this begun. Probably post-Victorian era, or very late.
Fair point.
It’s interesting how you referred to the past as a separate country. It really is
*CRIES* I NEEDED THIS..
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The use of human remains may have been used once and thus caused that to end up in a video like this
The baby farms segment got me thinking the CURRENT adoption industry is pretty sketchy.
Hi, good to see another video from you, even though one likely isn't going to love all videos ones favorite RUclipss but out, which was the case for me with this one.
Honestly, as seemingly annoyed as you were with the video you reacted to, I kinda got with your reacting. The whole point of her video was to point out things that occurred in Victorian times that seem strange to us today (emphasis on strange only). For the most part she's not commenting on their prevalence. You keep saying "X was not common" as if she said it was. She's mostly stating that these things occurred, not that they all occurred often/commonly.
In regards to corpse medicine, I think she might have the Smithsonian as her source, since the Smithsonian article I found pertaining to corpse medicine lists the exact same two cases (young woman's skull and human fat candle) as she does.
If it's something you care about I want to advice that (to me at least), you in this video come across as a bit judgmental and superior towards the video/person you're reacting to. Like your knowledge and interpretation of Victorian times is more accurate and superior. Maybe you don't agree with that assessment or maybe you don't care if you come across as such 🤷♀ but I thought I would bring it to your attention 🙂
Thanks for the feedback. The purpose of this video wasn’t to say that she was wrong or lying, this video was intended to go along with her video, and point out that, while she’s right that all of these things did happen, they weren’t very common. I know she didn’t claim they were common, but she also didn’t clarify that most of these things were quite uncommon, so I was just trying to add that clarification. It was not my intention to come across as condescending or judgmental. I was sort of tired and frustrated (for unrelated reasons) when I filmed this video, and I think that frustration bled through into my commentary a little bit. The lesson is that I should wait to film until I’m in a good mood, even if that means a video is going to be a couple of days late.
@@AdelaideBeemanWhite I agree that she didn't clarify that most things mentioned were quite uncommon and she did sensationalise some of it, so that's an aspect of your video that deserves praise 😊👍
By happen stance she might be treated better i think was meant maybe
At least today we have some treatment for mental illnesses even if the brain isn’t fully understood
Sometimes I really think so many of these people approach things of the past with their noses up in the air at them, thinking that our modern times were just so much better and a lot of times purposely exaggerate or misconstrue the facts and, as she did, put things into an era that weren't even a part of that time to basically point and laugh and feel superior 🙄. Really it's just irritating and shows the arrogance of the person.
You have the most slay closet
Real history is sooooo much more interesting.
bush or shaved which is Victorian?
Please leave this side of RUclips.
Where in the world did this girl get these "facts"? Does this mean I should throw out my arsenic? Like, you never know when it's needed on a guy who bought a slightly used wife??
I can totally feel your annoyance, i.e., "emmegation," depictions from wrong eras, and things within her countdown just being simply untrue. I'll refrain from sharing what I actually thought of her and her top ten list. 🙄 But they both start with "tw."
#1 … abortion?