Just want to share* I heard georgias voice in the the den and after investigating, I found my girls watching this on the tv. They are 14 and 16. I just watched this 15 minutes ago, proud mom moment 🥰
Sorry but poor Peter's death sounds like a Bugs Bunny sketch. First he is hit by a meat cleaver, then burned, surprised a big boulder didn't roll on him, or the roof didn't collapse on the poor bugger!
Belle knew that Ray knew too much which is why she wanted him declared insane. She played so many games with Ray because she needed someone to frame for her eacape.
Yeah, it was a multifaceted move on her part, to say the least, serving many purposes: 1. Discrediting him entirely 2. Setting the scene 3. Cast doubt 4. Shift investigational focus 5. REVENGE
@@mohammadabdulfarooqi3068 Ray Lamphere was an ex-farmhand and lover of Belle whom she fired a couple months prior to the house burning down. She framed him as a pyschopath who wanted to kill her. He did kind of stalk her as he wanted to blackmail Belle because he knew what she was up to. He ended up being convicted for starting the fire but not murder.
Only 5mins in but lmaooo can you imagine your sister just asking you "uh, can I have one of your children? Like, just give one to me as a christmas present idk you can make more later" LMAOOOOO
I’ve never heard of Belle, it’s not often that a true crime/mystery channel will cover a case that I wasn’t already aware of even vaguely and here you are doing it so eloquently, as always! Definitely gonna be checking that book out, you looked so genuinely excited when you recommended it so it must be a good’un. Thank you so much for sharing all your hard work and incredible knowledge with us!
I can't even imagine what it'd be like to live in a small town where everyone is sure a lady burnt a bunch of people, and then that lady showing up to my till with multiple cans of gas.
Sarah as a former cashier, there were times (And this far predated true crime podcasts and videos) that I would be putting an order through, bleach, garbage bags, etc., that I would kind of start looking at the customer with a raised eyebrow!
@@dellahicks7231 There have been some times where as an art student I had to buy some weird things. Like I'd have duct tape for art, bleach for the gross student housing shower, candy cause I have no self control, and a baby toy that I planned on painting. The cashier was like "uhhhh... do you go to ArtSchoolName?" Looking back, she probs thought I was gonna go murder a toddler or something 0-o oops!
@@pianobooks42 That is too funny, but at least she took a guess at the art school theory ... probably hoping you'd say 'Yes', otherwise she would have been mega creeped out! I think of employees in hardware stores, and do they hear of crimes after and go, 'Dang, I sold that dude the bleach, shovel, tarp, whatever?'
@@dellahicks7231 I remember a story about a girl who went to Walmart to pick up a new toaster, and her mom asked her to grab a bathtub plug for her, and she didnt realize how that looked until she got to the till with nothing but a toaster and a bathtub plug.
I'm pretty sure Belle didn't die in the fire. They should have looked into the organization that she gave all her money to. Was it real? Was it secretly run by her under another name? I think that charity that she left everything to is the key to figuring out what happened to her. I think she knew that she was going to get found out soon, and decided to take her death and set up the one witness as the culprit. She likely killed the kids so she could escape more easily. Plus, she already killed some of her kids before so it's not like it's a line that she hadn't crossed already. She definitely escaped that fire, and probably went on to kill more people until she died of natural causes or from pissing off the wrong person.
The charity Belle left the money to refused the money as blood money. The remaining wealth was fought over and divided by family members. Belle had withdrawn most of her money days before the fire.
@@TheScarletAlchemist the amount of money unaccounted for had to be well over a million in today's dollars. It is because of this, it is impossible that she burned up in the fire. The only real explaination is Belle got away with the cash.
I have a suggestion for a video that I've not seen anyone on RUclips cover! The case of Ben Bellamy in Swansea, South Wales. My sister actually went to school with him and I went to the same school a few years later, there's a memorial there for him. He was brutally tortured and murdered on his way home from a party, even buying his killers snacks from a petrol station on the way home. It's so sad but I think it should have more coverage! From what I have heard about him too, he seemed like a really lovely boy and he was far too young to go through what he did
My theory: Ray most likely knew what was going on or was even in on it. Her attempts at getting him declared insane seems a preemptive defense in case he went to authorities and spilled the beans. Who would believe a man deemed insane?
Excellent coverage! I’ve read about Belle and watched other videos. Still, you managed to provide new and interesting bits of information and perspectives on the case. Thank you, Georgia! 😘
This reminds me of the story of Mary Ann Cotton who was Britain's first female serial killer and quite similar - it would be interesting to cover her too 🥰
I’ve heard this case numerous times but I must say you’ve done the best job covering it. This lady freaks me out until no end. I’m glad I wasn’t a man who came across her back then. 😵🤪
Absolutely love your videos Georgia! So well researched and so respectful of the victims. As a born and bred Missourian, I have one small critique: we pronounce it “ Saint Lew-wis” (pronounce all the letters) unstead of the French “Lew-ee.” We’re a bit hillbilly. 😅
I live in Norway and I can't help but thinking that if she managed to come back to Norway after the murder of her kids , that there might me people here today that are actually her great great grandkids and might not even know it😮 this blows my mind so much 😲
I wonder if she really was a woman or if she was an individual with some intersex condition like androgen insensitivity syndrome , that would explain the huge hands and feet and super tall stature , in that case she would not even have had the miscarriage at 17 as she would be completely sterile .
@@notcishet of course it wouldn’t. The definition of woman is adult human female , female is someone who lacks the Y chromosome and was born with ovaries ... intersex latterly means in between the sexes , is a politically correct term to what it was called hermaphroditism or pseiduhermaphroditism in medical books .
It's interesting that a huge reason why people were so put off from Belle even before knowing exactly what she'd done is because she was getting insurance money from the deaths of her husbands and children, and from the candy shop fire. Insurance was VERY taboo at the time because many people saw it as "blood money". Her neighbors saw her as getting rich off of tragedy, and to them it was distasteful.
maybe she was worried Ray knew about her murderous past and thought he might talk about in the same way he did their relationship. by painting him as an insane man his claims would have been swept under the rug.. idk just a thought
I adore you & hate to be critical, but please include closed captioning. I can read lips pretty well & you speak clearly, but captions really help & I'm sure I'm not your only follower with hearing impairment. Some are likely worse than me. Please don't forget us, even the deaf love you!
I'm really trying! I'm currently working through my backlog of videos and captioning as much as possible but as most of my videos are about half an hour long it can take me about 6 hours to caption a single video myself, RUclips have really screwed a lot of creators over my removing community captioning because now I have to do it all myself! :( I pay for an outside company to caption when possible but it's quite expensive so isn't always something I can do
So happy you uploaded TY is dead tonight no one giving out any videos not any crime anyways. I already follow 6 true crime accounts think I need some more to follow xxxx
According to the La Porte County Public library, "there were many Belle sightings in the twenty odd years after the fire. [..] Most of these sightings were investigated and discounted-except one. In 1931, in Los Angeles, a woman going by the name of Esther Carlson, was arrested for the murder of a man she was caring for, August Lindstrom, for his $2000 bank account. Mrs. Carlson died in prison before her trial [..] Two former La Porteans viewed the body in the morgue and came away convinced they had just seen the body of Belle Gunness." Fact or fiction, who knows? As you pointed out Belle's ultimate fate will probably remain unknown and unknowable, but I urge readers to ask themselves 2 questions: How often do people commit suicide by setting themselves on fire? How often do fires decapitate bodies and leave no traces of the victims heads?
It would be interesting to know if the police ever looked into the child's home she left her life insurance to. I wonder if she has connection to it or not 🤔🤔
Me trying to figure out how Belle divided up each of her victims into 6 parts “ Okay, arms and legs severed, there’s 4 pieces and then the torso cut in half makes 6”
I think it's unlikely she died in the fire.. Given all the killing she'd been doing.. My guess is she needed to get away and start a new life before she got caught.. I'm betting she left the country and carried on with her money making killing spree, she probably got caught eventually in another country or maybe she died rich
If this is just a legend or not it's still very disturbing. I cannot believe she had the nerve to ask her sister if she could just have one of her children. As if she was just asking for a simple favour. Belle definately had some serious mental issues. Interesting story. I feel sad 4 the victims. Stay safe and healthy.
Belle did not disclose she was "pregnant" when Peter died. She had Phillip 6 months after his death. Like all Belle's children, it is doubtful it was really hers. Neighbors did not think Phillip looked like a newborn.
Another tidbit, it was because Belle had Phillip that she collected the insurance money from Peter's death. Otherwise it probably would have gone for Swanhild and Peter's brother. Phillip was a plot. She stole the child from someone.
i have to wonder if she killed the mother of Jenny in order to adopt her child... also there is a thing, that large feet in a man portend highly sexed person, and small feet in a woman similar. She was known to have extraordinarily tiny feet...
I have seen women, older than 42, up and about after giving birth and I have seen 18 year old women badly torn and stuck in bed for a week. There is no absolute rule. If a woman can get pregnant and through a full-term pregnancy without medical intervention, chances are that she's able to give birth; especially if she's had children before. But, I know 42 seems ancient to you.
*buys kerosene* Me: an intelligent person would never use that immediately. Georgia: later that night... Me: 🤦🏻♀️ She made sure she let someone know who to blame for the fire she was going to start. She probably lived out her life somewhere else, I’m sure she killed more people in the remainder of her life.
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"She was a bit of a serial killer" 😂😂
Just want to share* I heard georgias voice in the the den and after investigating, I found my girls watching this on the tv. They are 14 and 16. I just watched this 15 minutes ago, proud mom moment 🥰
Wow awesome
Sorry but poor Peter's death sounds like a Bugs Bunny sketch. First he is hit by a meat cleaver, then burned, surprised a big boulder didn't roll on him, or the roof didn't collapse on the poor bugger!
Lmaooooo 💀💀
"Where the hell did that piano fall from?"
@@Steve_V1066 Piano indeed! LoL I was going to reference empty Acme boxes lying around, but thought that might be too obscure a comment.
Belle knew that Ray knew too much which is why she wanted him declared insane. She played so many games with Ray because she needed someone to frame for her eacape.
Yeah, it was a multifaceted move on her part, to say the least, serving many purposes:
1. Discrediting him entirely
2. Setting the scene
3. Cast doubt
4. Shift investigational focus
5. REVENGE
Who was ray?
@@mohammadabdulfarooqi3068 Ray Lamphere was an ex-farmhand and lover of Belle whom she fired a couple months prior to the house burning down. She framed him as a pyschopath who wanted to kill her. He did kind of stalk her as he wanted to blackmail Belle because he knew what she was up to. He ended up being convicted for starting the fire but not murder.
I just finished watching your weight of the soul video and was looking for another, excited to watch :) x
Hope you enjoyed it!
Only 5mins in but lmaooo can you imagine your sister just asking you "uh, can I have one of your children? Like, just give one to me as a christmas present idk you can make more later" LMAOOOOO
I’ve never heard of Belle, it’s not often that a true crime/mystery channel will cover a case that I wasn’t already aware of even vaguely and here you are doing it so eloquently, as always! Definitely gonna be checking that book out, you looked so genuinely excited when you recommended it so it must be a good’un. Thank you so much for sharing all your hard work and incredible knowledge with us!
thank YOU so much!
@@georgiamarie_ ☺️☺️☺️
I can't even imagine what it'd be like to live in a small town where everyone is sure a lady burnt a bunch of people, and then that lady showing up to my till with multiple cans of gas.
Sarah as a former cashier, there were times (And this far predated true crime podcasts and videos) that I would be putting an order through, bleach, garbage bags, etc., that I would kind of start looking at the customer with a raised eyebrow!
@@dellahicks7231 There have been some times where as an art student I had to buy some weird things. Like I'd have duct tape for art, bleach for the gross student housing shower, candy cause I have no self control, and a baby toy that I planned on painting. The cashier was like "uhhhh... do you go to ArtSchoolName?" Looking back, she probs thought I was gonna go murder a toddler or something 0-o oops!
@@pianobooks42 That is too funny, but at least she took a guess at the art school theory ... probably hoping you'd say 'Yes', otherwise she would have been mega creeped out! I think of employees in hardware stores, and do they hear of crimes after and go, 'Dang, I sold that dude the bleach, shovel, tarp, whatever?'
@@dellahicks7231 I remember a story about a girl who went to Walmart to pick up a new toaster, and her mom asked her to grab a bathtub plug for her, and she didnt realize how that looked until she got to the till with nothing but a toaster and a bathtub plug.
Wow I wonder where Belle ended up for the remainder of her life? That’s Insane. Very cunning!
This is exactly what I needed!! Perfect excuse for a homework break! 😌
Your pronounciation of the Norwegian names is pretty good!
Best from Norwegian who grew up 30 min away from Selbu and have heard this story for years!
“She was a bit of a serial killer” I love that description
I've heard of Belle Guiness but don't know much about her so looking forward to this one!
I hope you learn something!
I'm pretty sure Belle didn't die in the fire. They should have looked into the organization that she gave all her money to. Was it real? Was it secretly run by her under another name? I think that charity that she left everything to is the key to figuring out what happened to her. I think she knew that she was going to get found out soon, and decided to take her death and set up the one witness as the culprit. She likely killed the kids so she could escape more easily. Plus, she already killed some of her kids before so it's not like it's a line that she hadn't crossed already. She definitely escaped that fire, and probably went on to kill more people until she died of natural causes or from pissing off the wrong person.
The charity Belle left the money to refused the money as blood money. The remaining wealth was fought over and divided by family members. Belle had withdrawn most of her money days before the fire.
@@jonmohney6975 ah, well I was still right about her secreting the money away somewhere. 😹
@@TheScarletAlchemist the amount of money unaccounted for had to be well over a million in today's dollars. It is because of this, it is impossible that she burned up in the fire. The only real explaination is Belle got away with the cash.
@@jonmohney6975 oh, I 100% believe that she staged the fire and corpses before escaping.
I love your content and your channel🥰❤️🥰❤️!!!! Btw im obsessed with your accent!!! Your accent is soooo cute 😍🥰
You're spoiling us 🙏❤
That peachy orange eye color looks very nice on you. I had heard a bif of belle gunness on a podcast. You're so well researched!
I have a suggestion for a video that I've not seen anyone on RUclips cover! The case of Ben Bellamy in Swansea, South Wales. My sister actually went to school with him and I went to the same school a few years later, there's a memorial there for him. He was brutally tortured and murdered on his way home from a party, even buying his killers snacks from a petrol station on the way home. It's so sad but I think it should have more coverage! From what I have heard about him too, he seemed like a really lovely boy and he was far too young to go through what he did
Thank you for this , I love your historical cases. I never say this but your makeup is on point!!!!
Thank you so much!!
Poor Jenny, she was probably terrified of her mother and then to be killed by her, the only mother she ever knew... my heart aches for her.
My theory: Ray most likely knew what was going on or was even in on it. Her attempts at getting him declared insane seems a preemptive defense in case he went to authorities and spilled the beans. Who would believe a man deemed insane?
I had to put the book you read in preparation for this case, in my Amazon wishlist. I love true crime books so it’s right up my alley. 💜💜
Can you do Henri Landru next month? He's my favorite Blue-beard serial killer.
You rock Georgia! So many people mistakenly think Arlene Worneous< forgive my spelling>, is the first woman serial killer. Their were many before her.
Excellent coverage! I’ve read about Belle and watched other videos. Still, you managed to provide new and interesting bits of information and perspectives on the case. Thank you, Georgia! 😘
I have watched a lot of Belle vids but...you put a lot of work into yours so here I am xxx
thank you so much!
@@georgiamarie_ 💜xx
Yess I’m so happy you posted
Love your videos 🥺
wait...... I am listening you your post the day you are making it! How wonderful!
This reminds me of the story of Mary Ann Cotton who was Britain's first female serial killer and quite similar - it would be interesting to cover her too 🥰
I'VE BEEEN WAITING FOR YOU TO TOUCH THIS ONE. YEESSSSSS!!!!! THANKYOU!
I hope I do it justice!
@@georgiamarie_ AND THAT YOU DID! I learned more about the case here than I did anywhere else on YT. Thanks
Spooky!! That book has gone straight on my TBR
Ahhhh! I’m going to save this for tomorrow when I do my baking!❤️
Bet it’s an maxing video as always Georgia, Ly❤️
Perfect timing. Loving your videos!!
Glad you like them!
I’ve heard this case numerous times but I must say you’ve done the best job covering it. This lady freaks me out until no end. I’m glad I wasn’t a man who came across her back then. 😵🤪
Can you cover the case of Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom from Knoxville Tennessee? Very sad and tragic
I've never been this early, this is exciting lol
WELL DONE MARIE. YOU ARE LOKING SO GOOD. KEEP UP THE HARD WORK.
Your videos help me cope with depression and anxiety. So thankyou :)
You make great videos :)
It sounded familiar then I remembered I'd watched Bailey Sarian cover it but I still enjoyed listening to it while cooking 😁
This video deserves more likes 🌼
perfect, i needed something to watch!
Thank you!
perfect timing, i was just looking for something new to watch 😍
Let’s just appreciate how beautiful Georgia is. :)
I use to live one town over from La Porte. I had no idea such a po dunk town had such a colorful past
Your one of the few channels I (hit the like button before watching) As I know your videos are always “great” 👌
Omigod I love how you say in the beginning of the video, she was a bit of a serial killer. 🤣 Ha! Just a bit
The House of Terror case would be a interesting case for you to cover
This was such an interesting serial killer spotlight. 😳 It sounded very similar to a case you covered, can't put my finger on it though 🤔
Love ya!
Nannie Doss maybe?
Absolutely love your videos Georgia! So well researched and so respectful of the victims. As a born and bred Missourian, I have one small critique: we pronounce it “ Saint Lew-wis” (pronounce all the letters) unstead of the French “Lew-ee.” We’re a bit hillbilly. 😅
I love when I’m doing boring housework and new videos are uploaded!!!!
I live in Norway and I can't help but thinking that if she managed to come back to Norway after the murder of her kids , that there might me people here today that are actually her great great grandkids and might not even know it😮 this blows my mind so much 😲
I wonder if she really was a woman or if she was an individual with some intersex condition like androgen insensitivity syndrome , that would explain the huge hands and feet and super tall stature , in that case she would not even have had the miscarriage at 17 as she would be completely sterile .
being intersex wouldnt make her not a woman.
@@notcishet of course it wouldn’t. The definition of woman is adult human female , female is someone who lacks the Y chromosome and was born with ovaries ... intersex latterly means in between the sexes , is a politically correct term to what it was called hermaphroditism or pseiduhermaphroditism in medical books .
“They both liked arson” I’m dead 😂😂
Yessss love ur vids
Georgia can you please do a video on Robert Black
🖤 thanks Georgia
LOL "hey sorry may i have one of your children?" wtf
Belle Gunness was actually 150 to 200 pounds, not 250 to 300 pounds.
Thanks for everything, you are absolutely brilliant. Please consider the first emperor of China.
YAY!! I’m so happy you are in your new place and are making us a new video!!!
I love being early and I'm so excited for this video
Another vid???? The day just got better
Most likely beat her daughters for attempting to access the cellar as she already had a decapitated body down there ready to act as her stand in.
Please do Shrien and Ani Dewani
It's interesting that a huge reason why people were so put off from Belle even before knowing exactly what she'd done is because she was getting insurance money from the deaths of her husbands and children, and from the candy shop fire. Insurance was VERY taboo at the time because many people saw it as "blood money". Her neighbors saw her as getting rich off of tragedy, and to them it was distasteful.
my favorite
Most of my family lives in Laporte Indiana 🤭
How the heck would one cut their own head off?
maybe she was worried Ray knew about her murderous past and thought he might talk about in the same way he did their relationship. by painting him as an insane man his claims would have been swept under the rug.. idk just a thought
I adore you & hate to be critical, but please include closed captioning. I can read lips pretty well & you speak clearly, but captions really help & I'm sure I'm not your only follower with hearing impairment. Some are likely worse than me. Please don't forget us, even the deaf love you!
I'm really trying! I'm currently working through my backlog of videos and captioning as much as possible but as most of my videos are about half an hour long it can take me about 6 hours to caption a single video myself, RUclips have really screwed a lot of creators over my removing community captioning because now I have to do it all myself! :( I pay for an outside company to caption when possible but it's quite expensive so isn't always something I can do
My day has been total and utter shit. Thank goodness for Georgia uploading🙏
This vid was posted on my birthday lol
So happy you uploaded TY is dead tonight no one giving out any videos not any crime anyways. I already follow 6 true crime accounts think I need some more to follow xxxx
According to the La Porte County Public library, "there were many Belle sightings in the twenty odd years after the fire. [..] Most of these sightings were investigated and discounted-except one. In 1931, in Los Angeles, a woman going by the name of Esther Carlson, was arrested for the murder of a man she was caring for, August Lindstrom, for his $2000 bank account. Mrs. Carlson died in prison before her trial [..] Two former La Porteans viewed the body in the morgue and came away convinced they had just seen the body of Belle Gunness."
Fact or fiction, who knows?
As you pointed out Belle's ultimate fate will probably remain unknown and unknowable, but I urge readers to ask themselves 2 questions:
How often do people commit suicide by setting themselves on fire?
How often do fires decapitate bodies and leave no traces of the victims heads?
It would be interesting to know if the police ever looked into the child's home she left her life insurance to. I wonder if she has connection to it or not 🤔🤔
Just Commenting for the algorithm 🖤
Me trying to figure out how Belle divided up each of her victims into 6 parts “ Okay, arms and legs severed, there’s 4 pieces and then the torso cut in half makes 6”
Gotta watch all the ads
Amazing story. Reminds me of my mother in law if she could get away with murder.
Whadda he say ?!
I think it's unlikely she died in the fire.. Given all the killing she'd been doing.. My guess is she needed to get away and start a new life before she got caught.. I'm betting she left the country and carried on with her money making killing spree, she probably got caught eventually in another country or maybe she died rich
Of course she got away.
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If this is just a legend or not it's still very disturbing. I cannot believe she had the nerve to ask her sister if she could just have one of her children. As if she was just asking for a simple favour. Belle definately had some serious mental issues. Interesting story. I feel sad 4 the victims. Stay safe and healthy.
She could be my ancestor 😂I have Norwegian ancestry 😅
It's St-Rick-Nine
I need these earrings.
i wonder why peter didnt take philip only swanhill i guess he really belived the romers
Belle did not disclose she was "pregnant" when Peter died. She had Phillip 6 months after his death. Like all Belle's children, it is doubtful it was really hers. Neighbors did not think Phillip looked like a newborn.
@@jonmohney6975 thanks hun x its so fasinating
Another tidbit, it was because Belle had Phillip that she collected the insurance money from Peter's death. Otherwise it probably would have gone for Swanhild and Peter's brother. Phillip was a plot. She stole the child from someone.
i'm sure she escaped the fire
You are adorable ❤️😌
i have to wonder if she killed the mother of Jenny in order to adopt her child... also there is a thing, that large feet in a man portend highly sexed person, and small feet in a woman similar. She was known to have extraordinarily tiny feet...
Feminist icon 🥰🥰
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Strick- nine
I actually live in Indiana. Thank you for pronouncing La Porte correctly
Most outsiders say La Pour-tay and its annoying.
hiiiiiiiii 😂
I have seen women, older than 42, up and about after giving birth and I have seen 18 year old women badly torn and stuck in bed for a week. There is no absolute rule. If a woman can get pregnant and through a full-term pregnancy without medical intervention, chances are that she's able to give birth; especially if she's had children before.
But, I know 42 seems ancient to you.
Could Belle be a man? 6 foot and 250+ lbs and infertility???
It kills me to dislike (esp after love for ages), but the audio is still echoing far too much :(
it's because I've moved house and the floors are wooden and nothing I'm doing is fixing the issue :( I'm trying I promise
*buys kerosene*
Me: an intelligent person would never use that immediately.
Georgia: later that night...
Me: 🤦🏻♀️
She made sure she let someone know who to blame for the fire she was going to start. She probably lived out her life somewhere else, I’m sure she killed more people in the remainder of her life.