Looks cool, feels cool, innate electricity, a very cool alt fire, a pretty nice signature effect when wield by its signature frame and deals a truck ton of damage. Yep...I love my Fulmin.
Steflos isn't great, but AFAIC it's a few steps better than Alternox. I'd agree they're both in a "perform much worse than they promise" category though.
@@tiltskillet7085 Which is crazy to say, when both are _Signature Weapons_ for Warframes but their unique traits are just...bad. The orb from the Alternox should be doing ludicrous and FAST damage over time while also being a status primer, and the Stefflos should be a unique Plasmor clone.
@@TreyThomas-uw6hk Wisp shock motes which even proc it if given to you by another player, Koumei 1st and 4th, Citrine 3rd, Lavos 3rd or any if buffed by holding 3rd before using, Vauban 1st, Voruna 2nd, Any exalted weapon modded with electricity. I think that's all but I may have missed a few. Although, I now realize you listed abilities that can be transferred to other frames.
Like Ambassador but worse. It's like a guy who looks and acts cool, but when it's time for him to show why he's cool, he accidentally craps his pants and falls in front of everyone
There are a lot of weapons in warframe that looks super neat or sound super neat, but need a lot of help to work. It's nice they can work either way Thanks for the helpful video MC!
It's awesome you're working on this weapon, because for 2 days now, I've off and on gone into the simulacrum to work on mine as well. I have a basic threshold for usability and it's being able to, within a reasonable amount of time, kill max level 225 steel path corrupted heavy gunners. I've tried full status/straight dmg.. I've tried multi/status... straight status... and the only thing even BARELY viable, is the frost/corrosive crit build with Primary Frostbite, but as your caveat is, mine is the same and only with outside help, does it push just over the edge to feeling slightly usable and sadly, ONLY with help, does it even remotely work. If the threshold isn't met, honestly, the weapon doesn't even feel like it's worth being used at all and this one is borderline.
The way to make this weapon good is using an warframe that buffs critcal chance, such as Sevagoth, Frost or Ash, then the crits do alot of damage but you also need maxed out arcane avenger
@@maxinea.sakaki4151 Agree. I'm assuming that's one of the reason this weapon come along with her as a signature weapon. She also gives it an extra 20% multishot. You can build her quite powerful though. I just want a weapon that any frame can use effectively without needing all sorts of buffs and outside multipliers, etc.
For guns with multiplicative CO the goal is to fit serration in there as its multiplicative to base damage so that's where the strength comes from, where with additive weapons it's generally better to do one or the other depending on arcane
Alternox is actually one of the best default build rifles in Circuit if you have no better choice. Has Galv Aptitude and Serration, and works super well with plenty of decrees.
If it didn't look like that or reload like that, I *might* be inclined to use it for once in my life. Closest comparison I can think of off the top of my head that fits this is the Aeolak which is sexy af and functions (vaguely) the same with it being projectile based & the alt fire having booms.
I was one commenter asking for Alternox in some past videos, so thanks for this. I like the weapon's design and how it feels, but it has always felt... lacking. So on some level this somewhat affirms that feeling. Bit of a shame, but one can hope the eventual Alternox Prime gets the love it deserves in a year or so. I may still try the standalone build at some point. Getting a riven would be a nice buff...
Deadhead's not a bad choice, and I use it more of the time than anything else. But headshots themselves only have a 1x headshot multiplier on Alternox before the DH bonus. So it's not quite as easy to stack its damage bonus as you'd think. Merciless is sort of nice for the reload. The weapon's base reload isn't bad, but the magazine is kind of small if you have any RoF boosts, so shortening reload downtime feels pretty good.
Can't lie, it's Gyres weapon, yea her kit already specialises in elec procs but this buffs that as well, it's probably just meant to do that instead of damage
Is there any way you could look at making a vid on the Mandonel? I know the Archguns don't have as many mods, but as someone who has just unlocked grav mags, I'm very curious on how this absolutely beautiful weapon could be built.
I kinda hope we get more creative primary arcanes soon, because I feel like secondaries get all the fun and interesting and wacky ones while primaries feel basically limited to just the acolyte arcanes and Frostbite/Blight for the most part. Bringing this up because, looking at this video made me wonder how broken it would be to get an Arcane Avenger in the primary slot for weapons like this-- additive crit for primaries specifically keeps it from accidentally busting something like the Kuva Nukor open too wide, and it'd be a really different way to kinda push status based weapons by giving something to all the ones like this with low crit high crit damage. I dunno.
Would anyone happen to know a content creator that makes builds using the Warframe without using a helminth and using only the weapons and companions it was introduced with, using only other weapons and companions to fill in the gaps? For instance, I've recently started playing with Citrine using her Steflos and Corufell. While I haven't really figured out the Corufell, I've come to realize that the Steflos works really well with Citrine's abilities. Primarily there is no reason to build for critical chance on the gun as Citrine's forth ability guarantees red crits and her third loads the mobs with status while increasing chance and duration. Meaning there is little need for status chance or duration. So one is able to focus on critical damage, base damage and fire rate. My point being is while weapons like Alternox and Steflos aren't particularly good on their own, they work just fine on the frame they came with. Making the frame actually feel like unique gameplay rather than just loading up nourish and roar while using the same OP weapons.
I gave up trying to get this thing to work after 2 forma lol. I've been using the Steflos a lot lately. Another weapon that launches a ball. But can actually kill without outside help
Alternox, in my humble opinion, is painfully average for a gun that requires you to be so far into the game to get it. And it's part of an architype of weapon that DE seemed to have been doing more than I'd like tbh. That being the "Automatic Rifle w/ gimmicky alt. fire" type weapons. Like, here me out; We have this thing, the Alternox, but we also have stuff like the Aeolak that came out the same update, the Quellor and Ambassador and Tenet Tetra, Stahlta and Trumna. And all of these are the same sorta auto-rifle w/ funny alt. fires. And even worse is aside from Trumna and Stahlta, they all are sorta... mid. Fortunately with Gotva Prime and the AX-52 we've gotten some weapons that ditch the quirky alt. fires to focus on being some nice, solid automatic rifles, but it's still an odd phenomenon that I'd noticed.
trash of a weapon sadly. For me, if it just doesnt work without external buffs, its trash lets be honest. Weapon should work vanilla to be considered good. Time to revisit this, DE lol
Five(?) forma, tens of thousands of kuva across two rivens, niche setups with different play styles, anything. I wanted the alternox to be good when it came out but could never make it good no matter how hard I tried. It's so beautiful and the reload animation is amazing but the weapon just sucks
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Looks cool, feels cool, innate electricity, a very cool alt fire, a pretty nice signature effect when wield by its signature frame and deals a truck ton of damage. Yep...I love my Fulmin.
This is one of those weapons that should feel as cool to use as it looks
Agreed. Unfortunately, at this point they’ll never buff it. Hopefully when the Prime version comes out eventually it’ll be a huge improvement.
Ambassador as well 😂
@@abaddon5420 yeah both weapons looks great and feels great to shoot but there are actually pretty Bad :/
Tale as old as time
Alternox and Steflos have the potential to be good, but could certainly use a stat buff (and a falloff buff for Steflos).
The Stefflos just needs to do more damage as it passes through enemies.
Unfortunately they're my favorite feeling weapons... I really hope for good exclusive mods or something
Steflos isn't great, but AFAIC it's a few steps better than Alternox. I'd agree they're both in a "perform much worse than they promise" category though.
@@tiltskillet7085 Which is crazy to say, when both are _Signature Weapons_ for Warframes but their unique traits are just...bad. The orb from the Alternox should be doing ludicrous and FAST damage over time while also being a status primer, and the Stefflos should be a unique Plasmor clone.
a prime version of this could help it by a ton. although as my personal use this one’s always been good for procing electric for archon stretch
Quanta vandal is better because it have a innate electric and have better status chance
Weapons don't proc Archon Stretch. Has to be an ability either from the warframe or companion.
@Ianpact ok so it either have to be volt (shock) ability or gyre (arc electric balls) ability or chroma (electric breath) ability
@@TreyThomas-uw6hk Believe it or not, even Koumei can proc Archon Stretch. I think even Wisp can with her Shock Mote.
@@TreyThomas-uw6hk Wisp shock motes which even proc it if given to you by another player, Koumei 1st and 4th, Citrine 3rd, Lavos 3rd or any if buffed by holding 3rd before using, Vauban 1st, Voruna 2nd, Any exalted weapon modded with electricity. I think that's all but I may have missed a few.
Although, I now realize you listed abilities that can be transferred to other frames.
Like Ambassador but worse.
It's like a guy who looks and acts cool, but when it's time for him to show why he's cool, he accidentally craps his pants and falls in front of everyone
There are a lot of weapons in warframe that looks super neat or sound super neat, but need a lot of help to work. It's nice they can work either way
Thanks for the helpful video MC!
If the ball was bigger and forced electric procs it could be fine
It's awesome you're working on this weapon, because for 2 days now, I've off and on gone into the simulacrum to work on mine as well. I have a basic threshold for usability and it's being able to, within a reasonable amount of time, kill max level 225 steel path corrupted heavy gunners. I've tried full status/straight dmg.. I've tried multi/status... straight status... and the only thing even BARELY viable, is the frost/corrosive crit build with Primary Frostbite, but as your caveat is, mine is the same and only with outside help, does it push just over the edge to feeling slightly usable and sadly, ONLY with help, does it even remotely work. If the threshold isn't met, honestly, the weapon doesn't even feel like it's worth being used at all and this one is borderline.
The way to make this weapon good is using an warframe that buffs critcal chance, such as Sevagoth, Frost or Ash, then the crits do alot of damage but you also need maxed out arcane avenger
Gyres 3 should give flat crit to all weapons cuz that cool down is kinda stupid, her 3 is not that powerful to the point she needs a cooldown in it
@@anstorner Exactly. That's outside help I was talking about. The MINIMUM help I gave it, was a Panzer Vulpa with viral quills, armor strip and swipe.
@@maxinea.sakaki4151 Agree. I'm assuming that's one of the reason this weapon come along with her as a signature weapon. She also gives it an extra 20% multishot. You can build her quite powerful though. I just want a weapon that any frame can use effectively without needing all sorts of buffs and outside multipliers, etc.
@@allennewborn936 she gives crit chance but it works like a a crit chance mod instead of being a flat increase.
Balls
The thing with the Alternox is that it's designed so much to be used with Gyre that using it without her shows the cracks on the weapon really quickly
Apparently the Alternox works stupendously well with a Vauban + Purple archons
For guns with multiplicative CO the goal is to fit serration in there as its multiplicative to base damage so that's where the strength comes from, where with additive weapons it's generally better to do one or the other depending on arcane
"Getting the Alternox is very straight forward"
Me, 100s of tier 3 Zariman bounties deep: D:
I guess it's a good thing gyre doesn't even really need a weapon and can just carry this thing around to look cool.
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Surely Snipertron Vandal is next after this crazy obscure weapon pull
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What a madlad, you really can make anything work
Alternox is actually one of the best default build rifles in Circuit if you have no better choice. Has Galv Aptitude and Serration, and works super well with plenty of decrees.
If it didn't look like that or reload like that, I *might* be inclined to use it for once in my life.
Closest comparison I can think of off the top of my head that fits this is the Aeolak which is sexy af and functions (vaguely) the same with it being projectile based & the alt fire having booms.
As a wise individual once said:
What.The.Balls.
I know it's not the best but this thing shows up in duviri all the time. Time to build
I remember this being kind of okay on Gyre. I think it was really designed around her kit, and not getting out of hand with her crit bonus.
I was one commenter asking for Alternox in some past videos, so thanks for this. I like the weapon's design and how it feels, but it has always felt... lacking. So on some level this somewhat affirms that feeling. Bit of a shame, but one can hope the eventual Alternox Prime gets the love it deserves in a year or so. I may still try the standalone build at some point. Getting a riven would be a nice buff...
Wolverine has returned even stronger.
The alt fire performs a lot better when you pair it with ballistic battery, mesa's 1st ability augment for if you wanted to use it
i fucking love the reload animation on the alternox
Deadhead's not a bad choice, and I use it more of the time than anything else. But headshots themselves only have a 1x headshot multiplier on Alternox before the DH bonus. So it's not quite as easy to stack its damage bonus as you'd think. Merciless is sort of nice for the reload. The weapon's base reload isn't bad, but the magazine is kind of small if you have any RoF boosts, so shortening reload downtime feels pretty good.
Might have to craft me a ball blaster
Sadly the only place I’ve gotten this gun to work and feel amazing. Is in duviri, with the right decrees this thing slaps and is a blast to use
Ballin at what cost
Zariman.
I ran like a electric viral and honestly it did wonders with it especially to murmur since they’re weak to electric
Can't lie, it's Gyres weapon, yea her kit already specialises in elec procs but this buffs that as well, it's probably just meant to do that instead of damage
I was today years old when I learned that you can duplicate your configs by clicking and dragging.
Could you do a ninkondi prime build? I love the stance but can’t figure out how to build it for steel path
I'd love to see your take on the Pyrana Prime, especially with all the recent goodie mods added to the game
Hell yeah, i love the Alternox conceptually. Like everyone else tho, it's kinda underwhelming on its own. But i haven't given up on it yet. 🙏
_deep breath_
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I’d love to see how you’d tackle the Steflos as another gun that should be way better than it is
I will once again reccomend checking out the buzzlok
More like buzzkok, ha gottem'
Fun fact: Ferrox does everything the Alternox does, but better!
That's just sad
@maxinea.sakaki4151 indeed
I'm sure the prime is gonnna be much better
Is there any way you could look at making a vid on the Mandonel? I know the Archguns don't have as many mods, but as someone who has just unlocked grav mags, I'm very curious on how this absolutely beautiful weapon could be built.
Balls indeed.
God I wish this weapon was actually good
Can you please make a Steflos build? I like the weapon but I don't know how to mod it for good damage
I kinda hope we get more creative primary arcanes soon, because I feel like secondaries get all the fun and interesting and wacky ones while primaries feel basically limited to just the acolyte arcanes and Frostbite/Blight for the most part. Bringing this up because, looking at this video made me wonder how broken it would be to get an Arcane Avenger in the primary slot for weapons like this-- additive crit for primaries specifically keeps it from accidentally busting something like the Kuva Nukor open too wide, and it'd be a really different way to kinda push status based weapons by giving something to all the ones like this with low crit high crit damage. I dunno.
Never thought about that until now, between fortifier, outburst, encumber etc, secondaries really do get all the fun stuff
Gyre's signature weapon did not earn the ire!
Can we do the azothane we haven't done a divuri weapon that is the slampatos in a while
My favorite weapon is Grakata. I only need one as a melee and I will have all the dakka. 😅
Would anyone happen to know a content creator that makes builds using the Warframe without using a helminth and using only the weapons and companions it was introduced with, using only other weapons and companions to fill in the gaps?
For instance, I've recently started playing with Citrine using her Steflos and Corufell. While I haven't really figured out the Corufell, I've come to realize that the Steflos works really well with Citrine's abilities. Primarily there is no reason to build for critical chance on the gun as Citrine's forth ability guarantees red crits and her third loads the mobs with status while increasing chance and duration. Meaning there is little need for status chance or duration. So one is able to focus on critical damage, base damage and fire rate. My point being is while weapons like Alternox and Steflos aren't particularly good on their own, they work just fine on the frame they came with. Making the frame actually feel like unique gameplay rather than just loading up nourish and roar while using the same OP weapons.
I gave up trying to get this thing to work after 2 forma lol. I've been using the Steflos a lot lately. Another weapon that launches a ball. But can actually kill without outside help
As i Nidus main who is still working out his build, can i still use these builds withouht the arcanes on the frame and weapons?
gun looks cool af was stoked to get it at first, was saddened to see its absolute ass. pls buff DE
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Vaykor Hek when?
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... TIL you can drag a config onto another slot.
Gorgon incarnon
Woah, is that something that we can do?! Can we just move configs over like that?! Am I the only person who didn't know we could do that?
Still no orvius youtube man
I'm sad because I wanna use it because it looks cool, but yea
Wait what do you mean missing a tooth didn’t you just fight off cu chulainn or something
This is one of those weapons that’s _so_ *cool,* and yet, _so_ *BAD.* Ugh. I wished they’d buffed it. Oh well. Maybe the prime will be worth using.
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Alternox, in my humble opinion, is painfully average for a gun that requires you to be so far into the game to get it. And it's part of an architype of weapon that DE seemed to have been doing more than I'd like tbh. That being the "Automatic Rifle w/ gimmicky alt. fire" type weapons.
Like, here me out; We have this thing, the Alternox, but we also have stuff like the Aeolak that came out the same update, the Quellor and Ambassador and Tenet Tetra, Stahlta and Trumna. And all of these are the same sorta auto-rifle w/ funny alt. fires. And even worse is aside from Trumna and Stahlta, they all are sorta... mid.
Fortunately with Gotva Prime and the AX-52 we've gotten some weapons that ditch the quirky alt. fires to focus on being some nice, solid automatic rifles, but it's still an odd phenomenon that I'd noticed.
With all these weapons I need to know how long bro spends in eso/hydron just leveling over and over lol
This gun FEELS incredible. This gun IS not 😂
Ah yes, the archetypical "items in MMOs that looks awesome, but sucks ass"
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trash of a weapon sadly. For me, if it just doesnt work without external buffs, its trash lets be honest. Weapon should work vanilla to be considered good. Time to revisit this, DE lol
why does this thing have such a goofy ahh reload animation
Five(?) forma, tens of thousands of kuva across two rivens, niche setups with different play styles, anything. I wanted the alternox to be good when it came out but could never make it good no matter how hard I tried. It's so beautiful and the reload animation is amazing but the weapon just sucks
I despise this weapon
Balls