THE RITE OF SPRING [Ballet vs Fantasia 1940] [No comments]
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- Опубликовано: 20 окт 2024
- @lubla93 #theriteofspring #fantasia1940 #stravinsky #disney #ballet
Sacrificial dance or dinousaurs? You choose the best media!
I wanna made a series about this. I use the sound' original version (ballet, composition, etc) with audiovisual media (animation, videoclips, TV series, cinema, movies, etc) related to the original version. I change the media' speed, according to the original version's rhythm
The Rite of Spring is a ballet created by Igor Stravinsky, with a premiere at 29th May 1913 and with a riot!. The original version of this video is the ballet's one-hundred anniversary, in the same place.
But, in 1940, Walt Disney made his own version of the ballet... with dinousaurs. But he made a lot of cuts from the original version!
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“When Igor Stravinsky wrote his ballet The Rite of Spring, his purpose was in his own words to express primitive life. And so Walt Disney and his fellow artists, instead of his ballet in its original form as simply series as a tribal dances visualized it as a pageant as the story of the growth of life on earth, and that story as you going to see it isn't the product of anybody's imagination, it's a coldly accurate reproduction of what science thinks went on during the first few billion years of this planet's existence. So now imagine yourselves out in space, billions and billions of years ago, looking down on this lonely tormented little planet spinning through an empty sea of nothingness."
Stravinsky’s Rite: A pagan celebration of nature culminating in a girl dancing herself to death.
Disney’s Rite: Dinosaurs.
Still a beautiful piece
Stravinsky was very angry at Disney for this trick.
@@ДанилаКоролёв-ю5х I heard he had a healping hand with this segment, just what is the truth and what isn't?
At their core, they both represent cycles of rebirth and the inevitable passing of time.
Both are enjoyable and set with beautiful music
@@darkstarmoonshadow true
Deems Taylor did say they took Stravinsky "at his word"
Thank you, this was super interesting to see! I expected the sacrifice to be in the part where in fantasia the dinosaurs fight. Super interesting coreography! No wonder it had mixed review at the time, it doesn't feel like ballet, but it's high art!
Fun fact
Disney wanted to make rite of spring being evolution of humans and humanity, but beacuse of reasons i dont know they changed to be evolution of earth and being era and extinction of the dinosaurs
they wre affraid they would make creationist angry
@@betamax6080 But then again, what wouldn't? (No offense)
From Walt Disney's Fantasia in Igor Stravinsky's Rite of Spring, with Leopold Stokowski and the Philadelphia Orchestra.
That explains the first bit; an orb or eruptions and flame turns to a thriving planet of life and growth
Interesting how Disney cut and pasted the composition to fit his narrative. I wonder what they would have done with it in its original form.
Probably instead of an earthquake we would have a rodent emerge from a dinosaur’s skull.
Other mammals would emerge as well as modern birds.
Followed by monkeys.
Followed by apes.
We’d then see Neanderthals and then Cro-Magnons culminating in a tribe dancing around a big bonfire and at the climax one of the tribesmen would thrust a torch to the stars above.
The dinosaurs would come back to life
Har har
and then the beginning piece for the end of the end of one era and the beginning of a new :) but seriously both are amazing side by side
I love them both
Einfach faszinierend. Vielen Dank und LG aus Montréal, Qc, Canada
Qué casualidad, justo hoy he estado viendo Fantasia jajajaja
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You'd think Walt Disney was in the theater on opening night..... that's how good fantasia syncs up with the ballet...he wasn't ( being just a kid at the time)...
Thank you so much for compiling this magnificent ballet with Disney's Fantasia! Could you also do the same with Elgar's Pomp and Circumstance Marches please? Thank you!
Pomp and Circumstance: You’re Welcome 😉
I think this is the original choreography and costuming, right? Very cool, ty for posting it.
Yes, they managed to replicate the choreography and costumes, based on the writings and drawings of Nijinsky and Roerich. In fact, ART, the channel that recorded this choreography in 2013, said, in the opening credits (deleted by me for this video), that they were based on such artists to commemorate the 100 years of ballet.
Yes, they managed to replicate the choreography and costumes, based on the writings and drawings of Nijinsky and Roerich. In fact, ART, the channel that recorded this choreography in 2013, said, in the opening credits (deleted by me for this video), that they were based on such artists to commemorate the 100 years of ballet.
@@lubla93 nice! If you were to post the Firebird comparison, I’d definitely enjoy it. That’s one of my favorite pieces, and the Fantasia story is a wonderful companion to it.
It's the original choreography. It followed years of research for the Joffrey Ballet Company who performed the first reconstruction in 1987. Search youtube for "The Search For Nijinsky's Rite of Spring (US doc edition 1) w/ full Joffrey performance" for a documentary including where you'll find a stunning performance of it - particularly the sacrificial dance - and pretty good sound and video considering it's a transfer from tape.
Tyrannosaurus Rex 🦖: Yummy 😋
ENNIO MORRICONE Isolated Score Dinosaurs 🦖 (Rite Of Spring Orchestra)
Yeah, i prefer the dinosaurs
I've fallen victim to the Mandela Effect! I watched Fantasia many times as a child and a few months ago became maybe a little obcessed with Rite of Spring. I thought Spring Rounds hit so hard for me because I was being nostalgic but no it's s not even in Fantasia?!?
What are you talking about? It's part of Fantasia😒
@@gts013 Oh okay... why isn't it included in this video then?
No, you're right, Spring Rounds isn't an actual part of Fantasia
Me too 😭
I know the original ballet is what it's suppose to be but.....Disney used a T-Rex, how do you compete with a T-Rex?
I want to see this same concept with the Nutcracker too
It's comical to me that Leonard Bernstein cited Phantasia to his students about what it meant to him, no disrespect to L.B.
I prefer the dinosaurs tbh
They put there heart and soul into making the animation fit with the music.
@@TheMormonSorceress agreed
both
23:14 fav part
YEAH
Honestly, I think the fantasia version of this makes more sense.
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I will take the side of ballet. I still think Disney's dinasours are not make sense some points. Of course, music is not limited to a composer's single idea. What this music makes us feel is terror, fear, brutality and wildness, right? An animation containing these would be quite appropriate. But I think there is more to it than that. First of all, this music is seriously dance music. For example, the sequence where the virgin girls come to Augurs and spring rounds was influenced by old Russian folk music and rhythms, you can feel this in the flutes and high-pitched piccolos. While composing this work, Stravinsky seriously went to old Russian villages with pagan religious roots in the performance corners of Russia. So no, this is not the music of simple wild people. Here we watch a mirror of the ancient music of the composer's own culture. Although today's performances or conductors' selections are quite terrifying, the composer himself also says this in his letters and quotes about his work.
Bringing it up to Disney, well no I don't think dinosaurs are a good idea. I can't deny that Stravinsky's first understanding with Walt is actually a very good idea about the evolution of humanity. Because it was not unreasonable that this music also described the rituals of ancient humanity. Since there is fear of the masses who embrace religion and creation, switching to dinosaurs seems to be an appropriate decision at first. But as I said, the moment we move on to the dinosaur sequence, it just turns into background music, where the music loses its mimicry and choreographic features. Stravinsky did not like this idea for a long time, as evidenced by the of his own words "Disney's boring dinosaurs" in a long chain of criticism to Karajan. The composer must not have been able to identify his work with this animation, so he expressed this.
I agree with Stravinsky at this point because, as I said, this music loses its meaning in a 15-minute animated sequence about the brutality of dinosaurs' fight.
But it is also useful to mention this. Although Stravinsky was angry with Stokowski during the performance of this work, I think he selected, trimmed and directed the best parts suitable for these wild sketches. Even though dinosaurs don't make sense to me, I think Stokowski has created good sequences that will highlight this brutality.
Fantasia is better🙌🏻
😉Yeah, and arranged by Leopold Stokowski with the Philadelphia Orchestra.
dinosaurs, for sure
I personally prefer the dinosaurs. Screw the sacrificial dance!
Honestly, I prefer Disney's interpretation a bit more.
I like both versions, though different they have a common theme of primitive life and the harshness of it. Whether is a girl dancing herself to death, or a battle of life and death between a Stegosaurus and a Tyrannosaurus rex.