Nico at 3 is insane. This isn’t a draft projection is it? Who cares about upside. We’re talking about this year and the playoff. He’s been atrocious in big games. No accuracy whatsoever on deep balls, sketchy at the end of games, low completion %. Tennessee lives and dies with their run game. For the playoff I would definitely rather have Allar or Howard. I think Ohio State’s defense is gonna give Nico major problems. But let’s be real…Gabriel is in a league of his own. He’s played 2 top 5 defenses this year and he has 650 yards with 7 TDs and 0 turnovers. He’s a big game baller. Passing and running when needed. Overall, not many good QBs in the playoff.
Ohio State fan here and I agree with Muench..he’s basically saying “I trust Leonard more than Howard” period. And, well, yeah. I was among those who wasn’t rooting for McCord to leave bc I wasn’t sure who we were getting and we went from one unsure thing to another unsure thing. and to clarify/add, I’m SUPER stoked that McCord had so much success at ‘Cuse. It was obviously a better situation for him. Adults who actively root for the downfall of these 17-24 yo athletes have it so wrong. I don’t care if they’re paid or not - just silly and exposes folks with fragile egos and character flaws.
Love that i found the McShay show. Always loved Todd and his breakdowns and this other dude is awesome as well. Sorry i dont know his name yet😂😂 Edit: muench sorry
Don’t sleep on Leavitt. We saw what happened to ASU without him against Cincinnati. He makes plays when needed and has grown thru out the season. Teammates follow his leadership
Well he’s going to be playing high caliber teams in the playoffs…the only time he played a decent team this year he was 8-18 for 68 yards lol. Most of those yards on the first drive. He was ATROCIOUS
I'd suggest Leavitt is far better than just a play-action-passer who benefits from having Cam Scattebo on the roster. Consider: ASU had Scattebo in the Cincinnati game, but didn't have Leavitt. They lost. ASU doesn't win either the UCF (which Scattebo missed) or Kansas games without Leavitt. He led fourth quarter rallies in both games. Leavitt was 16 of 25 for 161 with three TDs against UCF. Threw the game-winner to Jordyn Tyson with 4:55 left. Against Kansas he was even better. Finished 14 of 24 for 157 and four TDs. Jayhawks took the lead with 2:04 to play. Led them on eight play, 75-yard drive, running for two first downs and tossing the TD pass to Tyson with 16 seconds to play. ASU fans would rather have him than any other QB on your list.
On the Leonard run thing. Maybe they slow the design runs. That's happened in games. But the broken plays where he gets lose is where I don't think Indiana stops him at all. But saying ,what if they stop the run is like saying what if they stop the pass on the pocket passers
@Ryan-ih4bb it was a perfect storm. Not an excuse, they waited too late to say, okay, it's not going our way of trying to play normal ball, let's just line up and run our 1-2 punch and out talent these guys. But because they loss, NOONE spends a second analyzing how. 1.Because they shouldn't have lost under any circumstances, 2. None of them watched the game. But Leonard missing the all of camp, o line starting new young pieces, and Leonard really struggled up until the bye. Even in the Purdue blow out he was a bit sketch. But I think denbrock learned how he needed to bring Leonard along with the lack of productivity from his wideouts.
Being a Clemson fan, trust me, I know what Clemson’s strengths and opportunities are. However, what is so bothersome is the fact that you have completely counted Clemson out. You do realize that Dabo is the only coach in the playoffs , that equals 7 times in the past 10 years from 2014 till now. He won the National Championship title twice in three years. Dabo is absolutely not the same when he enters any Type of Championship Game. You and everyone else is counting this team out just as you did 6 times before and he proved everyone wrong. Dabo literally loves being the underdog bc he loves to prove people wrong! Texas’s offense has not been any better in high stakes games, they actually lost them. It comes down to how each defense’s hold the offense’s. Not to mention SMU was ranked #8 entering the ACC Championship game , Clemson was the underdog and won. Austin is Cade,s hometown and he already beat Texas’s QB in the High School Championship game on the exact same field. Please though, keep underestimating, keep in mind Clemson was the underdog in both National Championship games they won , not to mention Clemson dogged Alabama in that second win as an underdog. Nick Sabin is the only coach ahead of Dabo in College Football Playoffs. For sure he knows how to win a National Championship. And you are wrong, Cade never looked lost in the SMU game, our defense gave up those points. Cade had zero fumbles, zero interceptions, and Clemson had zero penalties. Your facts are absolutely not accurate. FYI, Clemson cheered louder when SMU got into the playoffs, Dabo and Clemson is always the team that shows respect and never disrespects other teams. More people should learn from that culture and leadership !
You sound so delusional , dabo had two generational level talent college qb’s that literally just played Backyard football and won him national championships in no fucking world is he even in the same galaxy as Kirby in terms of coaching iq…and the craziest shit is dabo will be the first to admit that ! He’s said he’s not a great coach but getting outta peoples way has always been his best attribute so relax . Ya weirdo
"Rourke lacks mobility". He was a run first quarterback at Ohio averaging almost 5 yards a carry. "Rourke can't find the 2nd or 3rd receivers" He usually throws to 10 or more different guys per game. 🤡🗺
@@TsoRein they are similar i just think drew has looked better against a better defense like oregon than nico has this year. also the bulk of nico’s stats come against FCS schools. i just they should be flipped
Carson beck at 2 is crazy , tells a lot of mcshays qb scouting ….. he’s not good. Can’t do by record in college football prove look at there ex qb and qbs like McElroy
Cade is as good or better than any of them. He played in Texas High school Football. Just like Sanders,Ward,Ewers and others. The Georgia kids are OK but Texas is where the Talent is. I hate to see him get over coached at CLEMSON
Dillon Gabriel plays his best in big games.
This show keeps getting better - Keep going, y’all! I share it with everyone I know.
This has become a must watch series, thank you for the quality content you guys put out
Nico at 3 is insane. This isn’t a draft projection is it? Who cares about upside. We’re talking about this year and the playoff. He’s been atrocious in big games. No accuracy whatsoever on deep balls, sketchy at the end of games, low completion %. Tennessee lives and dies with their run game.
For the playoff I would definitely rather have Allar or Howard. I think Ohio State’s defense is gonna give Nico major problems.
But let’s be real…Gabriel is in a league of his own. He’s played 2 top 5 defenses this year and he has 650 yards with 7 TDs and 0 turnovers. He’s a big game baller. Passing and running when needed. Overall, not many good QBs in the playoff.
Dillon is definitely one of the main reasons we are the favorites #GODUCKS
Muench absolutely schooled McShay on Leonard vs Howard lol
Not really. Leonard is a terrible passer.
@@KFBALL247 so is Howard. Leonard is a better runner. That was the point
Ohio State fan here and I agree with Muench..he’s basically saying “I trust Leonard more than Howard” period. And, well, yeah. I was among those who wasn’t rooting for McCord to leave bc I wasn’t sure who we were getting and we went from one unsure thing to another unsure thing. and to clarify/add, I’m SUPER stoked that McCord had so much success at ‘Cuse. It was obviously a better situation for him. Adults who actively root for the downfall of these 17-24 yo athletes have it so wrong. I don’t care if they’re paid or not - just silly and exposes folks with fragile egos and character flaws.
great ep really were on a roll for the whole thing
Love that i found the McShay show. Always loved Todd and his breakdowns and this other dude is awesome as well. Sorry i dont know his name yet😂😂
Edit: muench sorry
So happy to finally get away from all the "who deserves to be in the playoff" talk. I like this show breaking down games/players
Love the show guys!
Don’t sleep on Leavitt. We saw what happened to ASU without him against Cincinnati. He makes plays when needed and has grown thru out the season. Teammates follow his leadership
CFP should release maybe 2-3 sets of rankings not weekly
I love that idea
Steve blink twice if Riley Leonard has you hostage
Kurtis Rourke at 10 is rough
And wrong. There aren't 9 better qb's in college football let alone the playoffs.
Top rated passer in FBS sitting at #10 out of 12 because of one stinker road game. We are keeping receipts.
Well he’s going to be playing high caliber teams in the playoffs…the only time he played a decent team this year he was 8-18 for 68 yards lol. Most of those yards on the first drive. He was ATROCIOUS
I'd suggest Leavitt is far better than just a play-action-passer who benefits from having Cam Scattebo on the roster.
Consider:
ASU had Scattebo in the Cincinnati game, but didn't have Leavitt. They lost.
ASU doesn't win either the UCF (which Scattebo missed) or Kansas games without Leavitt. He led fourth quarter rallies in both games.
Leavitt was 16 of 25 for 161 with three TDs against UCF. Threw the game-winner to Jordyn Tyson with 4:55 left.
Against Kansas he was even better. Finished 14 of 24 for 157 and four TDs. Jayhawks took the lead with 2:04 to play. Led them on eight play, 75-yard drive, running for two first downs and tossing the TD pass to Tyson with 16 seconds to play.
ASU fans would rather have him than any other QB on your list.
On the Leonard run thing. Maybe they slow the design runs. That's happened in games. But the broken plays where he gets lose is where I don't think Indiana stops him at all. But saying ,what if they stop the run is like saying what if they stop the pass on the pocket passers
NIU also didn’t stop the run. Leonard got hurt
@Ryan-ih4bb it was a perfect storm. Not an excuse, they waited too late to say, okay, it's not going our way of trying to play normal ball, let's just line up and run our 1-2 punch and out talent these guys. But because they loss, NOONE spends a second analyzing how. 1.Because they shouldn't have lost under any circumstances, 2. None of them watched the game. But Leonard missing the all of camp, o line starting new young pieces, and Leonard really struggled up until the bye. Even in the Purdue blow out he was a bit sketch. But I think denbrock learned how he needed to bring Leonard along with the lack of productivity from his wideouts.
Being a Clemson fan, trust me, I know what Clemson’s strengths and opportunities are. However, what is so bothersome is the fact that you have completely counted Clemson out. You do realize that Dabo is the only coach in the playoffs , that equals 7 times in the past 10 years from 2014 till now. He won the National Championship title twice in three years. Dabo is absolutely not the same when he enters any Type of Championship Game. You and everyone else is counting this team out just as you did 6 times before and he proved everyone wrong. Dabo literally loves being the underdog bc he loves to prove people wrong! Texas’s offense has not been any better in high stakes games, they actually lost them. It comes down to how each defense’s hold the offense’s. Not to mention SMU was ranked #8 entering the ACC Championship game , Clemson was the underdog and won. Austin is Cade,s hometown and he already beat Texas’s QB in the High School Championship game on the exact same field. Please though, keep underestimating, keep in mind Clemson was the underdog in both National Championship games they won , not to mention Clemson dogged Alabama in that second win as an underdog. Nick Sabin is the only coach ahead of Dabo in College Football Playoffs. For sure he knows how to win a National Championship. And you are wrong, Cade never looked lost in the SMU game, our defense gave up those points. Cade had zero fumbles, zero interceptions, and Clemson had zero penalties. Your facts are absolutely not accurate. FYI, Clemson cheered louder when SMU got into the playoffs, Dabo and Clemson is always the team that shows respect and never disrespects other teams. More people should learn from that culture and leadership !
You sound so delusional , dabo had two generational level talent college qb’s that literally just played Backyard football and won him national championships in no fucking world is he even in the same galaxy as Kirby in terms of coaching iq…and the craziest shit is dabo will be the first to admit that ! He’s said he’s not a great coach but getting outta peoples way has always been his best attribute so relax . Ya weirdo
I’ll agree with most of this but I would say Kirby has passed dabo in recent times especially with Nick being retired now
Gunner Stockton the 1.01 of playoff QBs.
Todd will learn to do opening monologues and will learn how to take better advantage of His partners and guest's.
"Rourke lacks mobility". He was a run first quarterback at Ohio averaging almost 5 yards a carry.
"Rourke can't find the 2nd or 3rd receivers" He usually throws to 10 or more different guys per game.
🤡🗺
love the show but cmon man nico over allar? allars played in more games and nico has way better weapons on the outside and has been less impressive
Nico's weapons aren't that good and he can create outside of structure
Both qbs are good and their numbers are so similar
Nico 2500 yds 20 tds 5 ints
Allar 2900 yds 27 tds 7 ints
@@TsoRein they are similar i just think drew has looked better against a better defense like oregon than nico has this year. also the bulk of nico’s stats come against FCS schools. i just they should be flipped
Because the CFP refuses to use SOR or SOS, the SEC MUST leave CFP! SEC Championship Playoff TON NIL$$ *BONUS* No Committee!
Carson beck at 2 is crazy , tells a lot of mcshays qb scouting ….. he’s not good. Can’t do by record in college football prove look at there ex qb and qbs like McElroy
Cade is as good or better than any of them. He played in Texas High school Football. Just like Sanders,Ward,Ewers and others. The Georgia kids are OK but Texas is where the Talent is. I hate to see him get over coached at CLEMSON
Texas lost to georgia twice.
So they are confident for ewers when he cant beat georgia.
This is for the algorithm.
Nico at 3 is wild to me
He shouldn’t even be top 8. He’s been so unreliable and unproductive in big games
allar is 2
Rourke at 10 a is a joke amd Klubnik above Allar is ridiculous
The 3 names you mentioned simply refer to 3 players that won’t make the semi
@@Foggydidwhat What does that have to do with the topic? Ben Rothelisberger played at Miami OH for fcks sake lol
Carson Beck is on this list?! You just lost credibility Todd! Beck is broken, and not even a top 20 qb this year👎🤮👎