No wonder Bach is known as the father of classical music. His work is always rich in beauty and creativity. In his Fugues you can see all his creative abilities.
I only had a chance to listen to the first one. As Horowitz would say, "it has to be singink" and I felt the angels sing in Broberg's (I believe) playing. Will come back and listen to Janssen.
It is a good pace and a skipping little number but lacks the marvellously deep sustained bass notes so often part of these constructions. I do love the granddaddy of it all, the genius that is Bach. 👍
@@pregart001 The piano isn't capable of the subtle variations of touch that the harpsichord has. I hear what you're saying about 'intrusive staccato', but those passages do need to be played in a firm _non legato_ touch - which is going to come across as percussive whatever a pianist does.I can't help but think that Bach would have written many things differently if he were writing for piano.
@@ke9tv Probably in your first sentence you should swap the words piano and harpsichord :-) Music is not piloting a jet, it is very safe. One can imagine all kinds of ways to play without any danger to people. There is no need for any justification, it is enough that you imagine it. Why ask how to play it and why? When I was in elementary music school, I heard from my teacher that Bach should be played non legato. Without explaining why. A lot is still playing like this today. Of course, I don't play like that, because I asked why and found good, well-founded answers.
8:37 In bar 149 Bach seems out of character with this introduction of a new harmony ....caught me by surprise. And then the final four bars seem again to be a loss of focus untypical of Bach.
I found some of tha abellimenti in Janssen's version a trifle distracting, as if they're showing off technical prowess without making real musical sense. Sure, add passing tones over skips, ornament repeated phrases, and use conventional cadential figures, but there were places in the second episode of the fugue where the ornamentation was obscuring the demisemiquaver figures in the lower voices. A blot on on otherwise excellent performance!
@@ruperttmls7985 I am thinking more along the lines of Sokolov, Argerich and of course, Gould. Another incredible performer is Pinnock on the harpsichord.
This doesn't really sound like Bach... sure this isn't a transcription from another composer? Maybe from an organ work, there are a few passages that look like composed for the organ pedal
@@MyAnno1404 That may be true, I know many works of Bach but I'm not an expert. One thing for example that surprised me was the A minor at 3:41 - usually I would expect a Cm6 here from Bach. Another thought I had was that also the authorship of his famous Toccata and Fugue in D minor is questioned by many
@@tarikeld11 perhaps you'd normally expect that, but 1) it's only the early stages of the fugue, cm6 normall infers a full cadence with more than two voices and C in the root, but that would break the sequence, 2) I reckon the think that would make it a clear Cm6 would be an Eb (instead of the E) but once again he would have to break the sequence altogether to use an Eb (A-Eb-A is pretty dissonant in this context [no C in the root or anywhere near]) The result is a loose melodic minor melody in a ii-V-i cadence that maintains sequential structure, and it is very much not rare at all for bach to do this! Thoughts?
1:06 especially this theme is beautiful - it has a hint of romantic character but still is completely baroque
If the harpsichord could change dynamic then I think it would fit well for this piece
For me, this theme is absolutely not tied to time, but it is definitely tragic.
The timeless and greatest of them all, Johann Sebastian Bach….heavenly exquisite a played with great perfection! 😊👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏😄😉🎄
Yawn
It is so crystal clean! Thank you for sharing!
No wonder Bach is known as the father of classical music. His work is always rich in beauty and creativity. In his Fugues you can see all his creative abilities.
Kenneth/Kenny Broberg (1993-)
00:01 Toccata
01:05 Adagio
03:19 Fuga I.
05:47 Fuga II.
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Ivo Janssen (1963-)
10:11 Toccata
11:07 Adagio
13:15 Fuga I.
15:42 Fuga II.
Superb rendition of a masterpiece!
This is one of my favorite pieces of JSB's. That fugue subject is so dramatic.
man, that fugue so hard D:
And yet the performance is quite amaxing :O
I only had a chance to listen to the first one. As Horowitz would say, "it has to be singink" and I felt the angels sing in Broberg's (I believe) playing. Will come back and listen to Janssen.
Have been a fan ever since the Cliburn. Love his articulation.
awesome performance, really nice touch
It is a good pace and a skipping little number but lacks the marvellously deep sustained bass notes so often part of these constructions. I do love the granddaddy of it all, the genius that is Bach. 👍
You've earned my sub.
NICE!
*This piece would go very musically on a mechanical organ with Werkmeister temperament.*
My first thought was to play this piece on the organ. Without that intrusive staccato, of course.
@@pregart001 The piano isn't capable of the subtle variations of touch that the harpsichord has. I hear what you're saying about 'intrusive staccato', but those passages do need to be played in a firm _non legato_ touch - which is going to come across as percussive whatever a pianist does.I can't help but think that Bach would have written many things differently if he were writing for piano.
@@ke9tv Probably in your first sentence you should swap the words piano and harpsichord :-) Music is not piloting a jet, it is very safe. One can imagine all kinds of ways to play without any danger to people. There is no need for any justification, it is enough that you imagine it. Why ask how to play it and why? When I was in elementary music school, I heard from my teacher that Bach should be played non legato. Without explaining why. A lot is still playing like this today. Of course, I don't play like that, because I asked why and found good, well-founded answers.
8:37 In bar 149 Bach seems out of character with this introduction of a new harmony ....caught me by surprise. And then
the final four bars seem again to be a loss of focus untypical of Bach.
Bach always surprises us
I found some of tha abellimenti in Janssen's version a trifle distracting, as if they're showing off technical prowess without making real musical sense. Sure, add passing tones over skips, ornament repeated phrases, and use conventional cadential figures, but there were places in the second episode of the fugue where the ornamentation was obscuring the demisemiquaver figures in the lower voices. A blot on on otherwise excellent performance!
Ashish, is that you?
Omg where did you get this emoji
Великий Бах! Нет музыки выше и гениальнее!
Nice. What software do you use to make these videos?
Da vinci resolve, but the editing work is so simple that I think you can do it with basically every program
Great upload; thank you. Broberg's fugue is too spiky IMO.
crazy how this is heavier than beethoven
Measure 16 the *and of beat 2... nice dissonance.
3:19
Both over romanticize. But true Baroque style pianists are as rare as hen's teeth.
True “Baroque-pianists”… maybe Schiff & Perahia?
@@ruperttmls7985 I am thinking more along the lines of Sokolov, Argerich and of course, Gould. Another incredible performer is Pinnock on the harpsichord.
Maestro Keith Jarrett
@@dreamsdreams9493 Jarrett is a great and innovative jazz pianist, but he is no concert quality classical pianist.
@@PointyTailofSatan
What a silly statement!!
Have you ever listened to his well tempered clavier recording??
This doesn't really sound like Bach... sure this isn't a transcription from another composer? Maybe from an organ work, there are a few passages that look like composed for the organ pedal
It is by Bach. Bach has done alot of very different music so this might be the reason you are confused. The work is for harpsichord not organ.
@@MyAnno1404 That may be true, I know many works of Bach but I'm not an expert. One thing for example that surprised me was the A minor at 3:41 - usually I would expect a Cm6 here from Bach. Another thought I had was that also the authorship of his famous Toccata and Fugue in D minor is questioned by many
@@tarikeld11 as far as i know the used manusscript comes from some Bach students. Maybe they manipulated the original
this is indeed bach, but it's extremely early bach, iirc, early 20s bach - everyone's gotta start somewhere!
@@tarikeld11 perhaps you'd normally expect that, but 1) it's only the early stages of the fugue, cm6 normall infers a full cadence with more than two voices and C in the root, but that would break the sequence, 2) I reckon the think that would make it a clear Cm6 would be an Eb (instead of the E) but once again he would have to break the sequence altogether to use an Eb (A-Eb-A is pretty dissonant in this context [no C in the root or anywhere near]) The result is a loose melodic minor melody in a ii-V-i cadence that maintains sequential structure, and it is very much not rare at all for bach to do this! Thoughts?