It wasn't so much the -chan part itself, it was more lightheartedly taking note of the ways they said it, with over-the-top echoes and everything. In short, it's joke... well, partially, anyways. *inconspicuous shipper cough'
dID iT fEEl gOOd tHOugH? It can, doesn't mean it doesn't fit in with all the subtext that's strewn all over this franchise. My original comment was a lighthearted take on said heavy subtext.
@@Nachtelfin0des0Todes I find it weird how girls use that word when talking about female friends. Men don't call their male friends boyfriends. At least none that I've seen.
To be fair this would be something that's really hard to translate to English, but really Funimation couldn't think up anything better than "girlfriend" ?
I actually liked it. Coming from Country Girl Hanamaru it takes on an interesting means for her character; they way she's suddenly using it at every opportunity sounds like it's a new "future" word she's just discovered and has to try out all the time.
Me: haha yeah, I'm really picky about my ships, I only ship if there's real chemistry and stuff Chika: Let's go sweetie Me: wow I can't believe DiaChika is real.
Hard to translate this stuff unless you pull a persona 4, but the ending was weird. The scene where Dia fantasizes was okay though. You's line made me laugh.
@@veefeedscatz But that's what i mean mate. In every english dub ever made honorifics will sound weird because the english language doesn't have them. The characters don't sound like characters anymore they sound like nerds who think it's cool using foreign dialect in their everyday speak.
To be honest, this was one of those episodes that just wouldn't have translated well in the dub. Since the episode is centered around Japanese honorifics it would hardly make any sense in English, but they still tried anyway.And it was my waifu's episode so I love the episode with either language!
I grew up with my mom throwing around the word "girlfriend" whenever talking about her friends so for the most part it didn't feel TOO weird to me. That "sweetie" though? That hit me.
It is a hard thing to do I guess, but even the dub of the original Love Live had the girls call their upper classmen “Senpai” so they could get the episode out of the way Ah well, it’s a bit cringey, but I might binge watch the dub on some alcohol when it’s finished airing
School Idol Project's dub didn't keep any of the "-san" or "-chan" honorifics either (the only Japanese phrases they kept were senpai, Nicochi and Kayo-chin).
I know that K-On didn't even try to get around it. Mio-Chan, Yui Senpai, etc. At first it's odd, but considering how tied it is to Japanese culture there was nothing really they could do. I think if they had to explain it like this, though, there would be issues. Idk.
vrv.co/watch/G6WEJP7Q6/Love-Live-Sunshine:Dont-Be-So-Formal-with-Me link dead here's new one: www.funimation.com/shows/love-live-sunshine/dont-be-so-formal-with-me/simulcast/?lang=english
This translation was so good like, I was expecting so much awkwardness and cringe but I had just as much fun as with the original dub, they really nailed the feel in my opinion ♪ LET'S GO SWEETIE~ ♪
I figured they'd struggle with this epiaode, but do they seriously think teenage girls call each other "girlfriend" like that in 2017? I did love the "sweetie" bit though, like wow gay much?
In Hungarian it makes sense although the whole relationship system in the language is a mess cause we have no specific word for "boyfriend". -if you're a man and you are dating with a woman we call her "girlfriend" -if you're a man and you have a female friend we call her "friend" -if you're a man and you have a male friend "friend" -if you're a gay man and you have a boyfriend "friend" -if you're a woman and you're dating with a man "friend" -if you're a woman and you have a male friend "friend" -IF YOU'RE A WOMAN AND HAVE A FEMALE FRIEND "GIRLFRIEND" -IF YOU'RE A LESBIAN WOMAN AND HAVE A GIRLFRIEND "GIRLFRIEND" It causes mass confusion in everyday life.
LL! SIP: *Continues to use honorifics in the dub so 'No Senpai Allowed!' makes sense* LLS: Hey there buddy chum pal friend buddy pal chum bud friend fella brother amigo pal buddy friend chummy chum chum pal!
I like how in the dub, each nickname encapsulates that character's interests and personality. It's so cute!!! I might be trash, but I'LL BE TRASH FOR THESE WAIFUS
Chan vs san vs girlfriend vs sweety? And again we see how difficult it can be to bring certain aspects of a culture and their language into other languages and cultures - although the struggles of these girls are actually "all-human property". And by involving the Ayase sisters and Mari the authors even lampshades that problem. (The names of the Sailor Warriors are still a textbook example here imho, so the old distributors as it seems were just like "well fuck it, let's craft our own puns and turn Serenity into Serena and 'How dare you??' into Darian" and so on. And I guess they also had to exchange their currency XD Lip sync is yet another problem if the honorifics are "all of the sudden" missing...)
The solution is really simple. Don't dub anything besides pre grade school children cartoons and don't ruin foreign media with garbo localization. Translate it faithfully. If someone is too simple minded or xenophobic to skip something because there's no dumbed down dub available - it's better to have them skip it than ruining ot for everyone.
I usually don't like dubs of cute-like anime's but this was pretty darn good, but I thought they would of dubbed it like they dubbed lucky star using "Chan, San, and Nea(?)-chan," makes me happy that they kept Zura though!
Rewatching this, I was thinking how perfectly suited the English translation of the -chan desire is, especially if the goal of translation is to keep the spirit of the script alive. In essence, what Dia wanted was what Kanan and Mari had: a heightened sense of camaraderie through the formal communication channel. She thought being the "Dia-san" was a sign that she was not the "friend" of the juniors, and so she wanted the label too. By doing so, she was exhibiting "cringe," that is, a desire that is unbecoming of her status in the group. Hence Kanan and Mari's reaction - a wholesome laugh, but a laugh nonetheless. And Chika would be the voice of order in the end, that Dia should recognize her place in the group, and her acceptance of her place is the sign of camaraderie she is looking for. Thus, what the dub needed to do was to keep the "cringe" itself. The cringe felt by the audience when they heard "sweetie," "girlfriend," and "matey," especially as they appear in Dia's imagined scenarios, is a sign that the dub did its job well.
@@supertransistor8762 My point is: there are loads of great dubs out there, and there have been for years. I specifically said 20 years, because that's when the dub of Cowboy Bebop came out, and that was really the show that truly broke the trend of awful dubs.
I get a feeling that for this specific episode, they were putting an emphasis on 'chan' for Kanan and Mari and did the same for 'san' for Dia just to annoy her
![[S1] Dia Kurosawa Clips](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/5FgxFN9G8kU/mqdefault.jpg)
Dia has 8 girlfriends now
shouldn’t it be... 7? because ruby.... 👀
bonanahh SHIT LMAO U RIGHT
but it's 9 now because of leah and sarah 👀
bonanahh
add Ruby and make It even better
No that makes it worse.
Asafe Gonzaga I'm her little sister
*original version of Dia's fantasy*
Dia, that's kind of gay.
*dubbed version*
I retract my previous statement, specifically the "kind of" part.
If you are familiar with Japanese honorifics, her fantasy isn't gay at all. The dubbed version, on the other hand, does seem kinda gay-ish xD
It wasn't so much the -chan part itself, it was more lightheartedly taking note of the ways they said it, with over-the-top echoes and everything. In short, it's joke... well, partially, anyways. *inconspicuous shipper cough'
+IceFuuma Well, there is that too lol. She really is desperate for that -chan xD
dID iT fEEl gOOd tHOugH? It can, doesn't mean it doesn't fit in with all the subtext that's strewn all over this franchise. My original comment was a lighthearted take on said heavy subtext.
IceUrsa Aqours really is about 9 polyamorous lesbians dating each other. Beautiful
3:21
"Hey....what's up....buddy"
"yOHA-"
shikkakyuu I freaking died.
shikkakyuu lmao
I laughed way to hard at that
That was poor editing on my part. Oh well. We got a good laugh out of that.
Lol
lEt'S gO sWeeTiE
Look at this pic from when we hung out the other day.
*_H E R E , M 8 0_*
2:28
> You calls her "matey"
I approve of this dub
2:31 Dia's laugh is so funny and cute.
IS THAT A M80MARC REFERENCE?!?!?!
“LET’S GO SWEETIE” bless the dub
Come to my house sometime sweetie it's in IREDELL TEXAS
I unironically like this a lot
Eli Ayase I love and miss your translations. Hope they come back
Elichi
hai Eli
Horosho
Dia likes you too
either hanamaru is really gay or just doesn't realize that ''girlfriend'' means something else
What about both?
Girlfriend can also mean "really close friend that's also a girl"
Oh, us guys didn't know that. We just call each other shithead and bitchface to show affection.
@@Nachtelfin0des0Todes I find it weird how girls use that word when talking about female friends. Men don't call their male friends boyfriends. At least none that I've seen.
@@AlvisMonado We call each other assholes or bastards.
TOODLEOOOO KANANROO
in english this ep should be called dia-chans harem xD
To be fair this would be something that's really hard to translate to English, but really Funimation couldn't think up anything better than "girlfriend" ?
They did. They thought of "Goddess Mari."
Dia is gayer in English now.
They could have said bestie or something like really ??
I actually liked it. Coming from Country Girl Hanamaru it takes on an interesting means for her character; they way she's suddenly using it at every opportunity sounds like it's a new "future" word she's just discovered and has to try out all the time.
Burning shiney
Me: haha yeah, I'm really picky about my ships, I only ship if there's real chemistry and stuff
Chika: Let's go sweetie
Me: wow I can't believe DiaChika is real.
okay dai girlfriend
Gigi De Onis DiaChika is my favorite ship, and ChikaDiaRuby is my favorite brotp (idol lovers)
@@rubiusmall sus
@@rubiusmall h
"Let's go sweetie" No one is mentioning how amazing that was? Ahhh
Mari: "I cannot ask my dad for help".
five minutes later
"Look what I have cooked, It costs 1000$ the dish".
Presumably she has an enormous allowance.
Ma'am, this is a Wendy's
Dia is best girl in both languages
Both Dia and You are my favorites. But fuck, You looks so weird in English
All girls are best girls
Rubesty she literally has it in her catch pharse.
@@Riobjection Then none of them are.
@@spartanq7781 oh yeah, that's true
Goddess?! Girlfriends?!
Girlfriend means friend also, but it can be misunderstood like someone mentioned in the comments earlier
yeah, it's a way for girls to call their female friends in a intimate way positively.
Metal Gear?!
Joshua Amadeus Ishak Idols? High school? More profitable than Gundam?
Joshua Amadeus Ishak it'd be different calling your guy friend boyfriend lol! Yeah, true.
m a t e y
DepressedRutabaga 2:28 I love her face 💗
Is that a M80Marc reference?!
Hard to translate this stuff unless you pull a persona 4, but the ending was weird. The scene where Dia fantasizes was okay though. You's line made me laugh.
Persona 4? Can you explain a bit further? XD
In the Persona series of games they tend to keep the JPN honorifics* in the ENG v.o.
*That is, things like "-chan", "-kun", "-san", "-senpai", etc.
@@veefeedscatz ew that's corny mate. Dubs should never use the honorifics.
@@veefeedscatz But that's what i mean mate. In every english dub ever made honorifics will sound weird because the english language doesn't have them.
The characters don't sound like characters anymore they sound like nerds who think it's cool using foreign dialect in their everyday speak.
@@veefeedscatz My point is it always sounds weird
Jeez Dia, how come you're allowed to have 7 girlfriends?!
More than i a guy will ever have in my whole life
8 there is Rubesty.😏
@@GayAndDog Rude.
@@spartanq7781 Ruby is her sister.
@@twistedgaming9185 that makes it better
Chika: Let's go, Sweetie.
Hanamaru: Here, this look good right, Girlfriend?
Me: I'm D.O.N.E.
M A T E Y
The Matey echoes around just sent me into the enlightenment
I feel like watching the dub of this episode just because of its gayness.
I thought the dubbed episode was very enjoyable. I'd recommend it.
Jesus Christ ikr
He himself
The great one has spoken
Love Live dub
RUclips tested, Jesus approved
Jesus Christ 😂
you saying matey is the only one of these nicknames that makes sense
WHEN THE M80WEED HITS.
Gayer in Translation
3:21"Hey...What's up...buddy...
YOHA-
GIRLFRIEND"
Oh oohh
@@yamadashiremiza2313 *balloons rise to ceiling*
@@yangrailmedia-*chan*?
Call her “girlfriend?”
This is the only video that makes me laugh really hard while wanting to cry at the same time every time I watch it
It should be noted that You's voice actress' last name is "Yu."
Perfect casting.
Yu takasaki
Saito like
Apphia Yu?
Nice trivia
*G I R L F R I E N D*
To quote dub Chika, "If you need me I'll just bw slowly dying inside"
Mahsa Mahsa season 1 when they met Mari
@Mahsa Mahsa literally after "its joke" scene
@@DEEZ_N4T I quit sunshine because of that
To be honest, this was one of those episodes that just wouldn't have translated well in the dub. Since the episode is centered around Japanese honorifics it would hardly make any sense in English, but they still tried anyway.And it was my waifu's episode so I love the episode with either language!
im laughing so hard at this
"TOODLE OO KANANROO"
LL! SIP: *Continues to use honorifics in the dub so 'No Senpai Allowed!' makes more sense in translation*
LLS: Hey girlfriend!
*sweetie*
*girlfriend*
*matey* (basically You’s way of saying wife)
Ok I may watch the dub
“Girlfriend.”
“Sweetie.”
“mAtEy.”
The dub sounds like a abridged version not an official dub.
No Rice No Life HAHAHA i was thinking the same
Yeah, lol
but it's still funny and enjoyable
Well most of the dub is like that. That why those dubs are sucks...
You clearly haven't watched Funimation's Danganronpa dubs XD
the dub made it just more gay
Literally
Even better.😏
Wait nijigasaki dub
ok i actually love dia’s dub voice... she’s so cute in any language
2:19 “Sweetie” I’m dead
I grew up with my mom throwing around the word "girlfriend" whenever talking about her friends so for the most part it didn't feel TOO weird to me. That "sweetie" though? That hit me.
THATS SO GAY I LOVE IT
I love it more
“How do you spell the word, Spoon?”
S-p-o-3:19-n
It is a hard thing to do I guess, but even the dub of the original Love Live had the girls call their upper classmen “Senpai” so they could get the episode out of the way
Ah well, it’s a bit cringey, but I might binge watch the dub on some alcohol when it’s finished airing
School Idol Project's dub didn't keep any of the "-san" or "-chan" honorifics either (the only Japanese phrases they kept were senpai, Nicochi and Kayo-chin).
I know that K-On didn't even try to get around it. Mio-Chan, Yui Senpai, etc. At first it's odd, but considering how tied it is to Japanese culture there was nothing really they could do. I think if they had to explain it like this, though, there would be issues. Idk.
Ok but the way kanan said dia at 2:13
Nozhomo togay so gay indeed 👌
Dia.exe has stopped working
At 2:11 i just noticed that Mari was cleaning her statue while everyone was shocked😂
she doesnt give a shit about everyone lol
“SWEETIE” WHOA HOL UP
Wait HOW DID THEY RELEASE AN ENGLISH VERSION SO QUICKLY? IS THIS REAL!?
vrv.co/watch/G6WEJP7Q6/Love-Live-Sunshine:Dont-Be-So-Formal-with-Me link dead here's new one: www.funimation.com/shows/love-live-sunshine/dont-be-so-formal-with-me/simulcast/?lang=english
no
Magic
Lavender Cherry Miku SimulDubs
This translation was so good like, I was expecting so much awkwardness and cringe but I had just as much fun as with the original dub, they really nailed the feel in my opinion
♪ LET'S GO SWEETIE~ ♪
*I can't believe i'm still watching this part of the season, I can't just stop watching my cute Dia-Chan!*
When Dia started speaking in the dub clip I thought it was an abridged version and not her actual dub VA
It's not
@@jess-fg1wt it is
WHAAAT...... WHAAAT???
Someone save my dying soul
I forced myself to watch all of it, but that last "Girlfriend!" made me want to kill myself, no, it killed me......
I wanna kill myself as well....
Smell poo poo SHIT FIAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Oh my god
"Goodbye Girlfriend zura" Innocent Bird duet INTENSIFIES
I figured they'd struggle with this epiaode, but do they seriously think teenage girls call each other "girlfriend" like that in 2017?
I did love the "sweetie" bit though, like wow gay much?
"tOoDaLoO kAnAn RoO!"
In Hungarian it makes sense although the whole relationship system in the language is a mess cause we have no specific word for "boyfriend".
-if you're a man and you are dating with a woman we call her "girlfriend"
-if you're a man and you have a female friend we call her "friend"
-if you're a man and you have a male friend "friend"
-if you're a gay man and you have a boyfriend "friend"
-if you're a woman and you're dating with a man "friend"
-if you're a woman and you have a male friend "friend"
-IF YOU'RE A WOMAN AND HAVE A FEMALE FRIEND "GIRLFRIEND"
-IF YOU'RE A LESBIAN WOMAN AND HAVE A GIRLFRIEND "GIRLFRIEND"
It causes mass confusion in everyday life.
holy shit its gayer
how
I was eating a mouthful of rice and spit it all out as soon as I heard “ToO dA LoOo kAnAn rOooO”
lonely lesbian mood
LL! SIP: *Continues to use honorifics in the dub so 'No Senpai Allowed!' makes sense*
LLS: Hey there buddy chum pal friend buddy pal chum bud friend fella brother amigo pal buddy friend chummy chum chum pal!
me: yeah i only ship things with actual solid proof
Dia to You: thanks...girlfriend
Me,hyperventilating: diayou is canon king
Wow, they made a dub that fast!
Welcome to the wonderful world of simuldubs.
EightThreeEight *Lmao!* 😂
i never knew love live was a harem
I like how in the dub, each nickname encapsulates that character's interests and personality. It's so cute!!! I might be trash, but I'LL BE TRASH FOR THESE WAIFUS
Yuri confirmed
... (it's joke) 😛😛😛
Me likeyy~
It's jorke~
I choked when chika said "sweetie" to Dia 😂😂😂
They...are so...valley
Oh... you should go look up Eng Dub Honoka........
Is it worst then Kananru?
Chika: Let's go sweetie ❤
Lmao I did not expected that
"matey"
m80marc reference inbound
1:55 😭😂😂
But the "Let's go, sweetie !" hit me 😭😂
4:18 Poor sweetie 😭❤
"Let's go, sweetie."
I'm dead XD
3:00
Me dreaming I want to be called this by my best friend
M' LADY
Localization ain't easy
Finally, someone who gets it.
especially in simildubs
2:14
yoshiko- is this the power of the black feather?!
ruby- onee-chan?
kanan- ahh here we go...
hanamaru- zura?
Chan vs san vs girlfriend vs sweety? And again we see how difficult it can be to bring certain aspects of a culture and their language into other languages and cultures - although the struggles of these girls are actually "all-human property". And by involving the Ayase sisters and Mari the authors even lampshades that problem. (The names of the Sailor Warriors are still a textbook example here imho, so the old distributors as it seems were just like "well fuck it, let's craft our own puns and turn Serenity into Serena and 'How dare you??' into Darian" and so on. And I guess they also had to exchange their currency XD Lip sync is yet another problem if the honorifics are "all of the sudden" missing...)
Kristen McGuire said that writing this episode was an absolute nightmare.
The solution is really simple. Don't dub anything besides pre grade school children cartoons and don't ruin foreign media with garbo localization. Translate it faithfully.
If someone is too simple minded or xenophobic to skip something because there's no dumbed down dub available - it's better to have them skip it than ruining ot for everyone.
I usually don't like dubs of cute-like anime's but this was pretty darn good, but I thought they would of dubbed it like they dubbed lucky star using "Chan, San, and Nea(?)-chan,"
makes me happy that they kept Zura though!
Wow.....,
I wish I was as lucky as Dia
There's a pure and lovely energy that embraces Dia-chan. And I love it so much. 💗
sweety.... girl friend.... mateyy 😂
Japanese language- school idol
English language-school Harem
I cried made me love dia even more
花丸英語でもしっかり語尾にずらついててかわいい
and then they kiss
"Hey what's up....Buddy?"
"It's YOHA-"
LETS GO SWEETIE
"bye bye girlfriend!"
what?
3:10 how wholesome
海外の丸ちゃんもちゃんと「ズラ」って言うのねw
toodaloo, kanan roo
The dub writers knew the appeal of a group of 9 girls here stateside and they sure as hell ran with it.
Its gay and I love it
kananru
Also, this episode solidified her as second best girl for me.
Only second, I mean she isn’t Hanamaru, but still
Rewatching this, I was thinking how perfectly suited the English translation of the -chan desire is, especially if the goal of translation is to keep the spirit of the script alive.
In essence, what Dia wanted was what Kanan and Mari had: a heightened sense of camaraderie through the formal communication channel. She thought being the "Dia-san" was a sign that she was not the "friend" of the juniors, and so she wanted the label too.
By doing so, she was exhibiting "cringe," that is, a desire that is unbecoming of her status in the group. Hence Kanan and Mari's reaction - a wholesome laugh, but a laugh nonetheless. And Chika would be the voice of order in the end, that Dia should recognize her place in the group, and her acceptance of her place is the sign of camaraderie she is looking for.
Thus, what the dub needed to do was to keep the "cringe" itself. The cringe felt by the audience when they heard "sweetie," "girlfriend," and "matey," especially as they appear in Dia's imagined scenarios, is a sign that the dub did its job well.
Dear Princess Celestia, today I learned not all dubs are awful. Some are awesome.
Excellent.
You're about 20 years late to the party, but hey, better late than never.
I don't get it but I feel slightly offended
@@supertransistor8762 My point is: there are loads of great dubs out there, and there have been for years.
I specifically said 20 years, because that's when the dub of Cowboy Bebop came out, and that was really the show that truly broke the trend of awful dubs.
Maybe, but you clearly didn't grow up with dutch cartoon dubs. These things stink. Hard.
@@supertransistor8762 No, I didn't.
She’s the second best after yohane
I get a feeling that for this specific episode, they were putting an emphasis on 'chan' for Kanan and Mari and did the same for 'san' for Dia just to annoy her
GIRLFRIEND?
TRIGGERED, ZURA
Nappimaru , zura! that zura is what made me laugh 😂😂
You have to give them credit, they tried VERY hard to avoid using honorifics in the dub.
Yeah, it turned out silly, but eh
It is a bit weird, but hey, it works.
ToOdle lOo kAnaN-rU will forever haunt my nightmares.
Luckily they didn't dub sif-
Project Loopy School idol festival. it's a game
oh god i dont want to imagine them trying to dub washi washi in that one main story with maki
Too much
bye bye girlfriend see ya at school, zura.
i am totally not reading a script