So glad I found this. Have been running full bleed spear Rapier build and wanted to try IG Rapier w/light armor. Wasn't sure how ice gem with Rapier and high int would work on the tondo bleed. This is excellent content sir, great work.
Great production on this vid. The 250INT tip is good to know (prolonged bleed as DOT) I run this build on occasion, and look forward to trying your variation.
I saw some discussions about finish: that it doesn't benefit from any empower, that it can't be buffed by new evade perk and that deadly flourish only applies to flourish and not finish. Have you tested those and can confirm as user of this? Also what about trenchant strikes (11% more dmg with grit)? If finish has grit, wouldn't that make entire part of bleeds burst stronger by 11% (or is it counted only towards 120% of finish)? Great idea for a build overall - I was exploring it couple of patches ago, back when ring was extending bleeding by 15% and gave up. But i never though that 250 INT would benefit bleed (it is not spell after all).
"Trenchant" is only fully charged heavy attacks, It's called Thwarting Strikes for the grit, and no it would not be worth just having for deadly, even if it does work, the big damage comes from finish as shown in the video I currently have a Keen Tondo/Vicious/Keenly Empowered Rapier and It's really good burst damage even if the finish damage can't crit, also Cut Flawed Aquamarines will do more damage overall than T5 Pristines will
dude this guy had deadly flourish on his rapier with VG oblivion along with tondo, im a 300 con heavy full resil, they flourish and finished me when I was about 50% health in one shot.
so first this is a great build and funny video. been playing variations of this for 2 days now. I have to say my favorite so far is 150 dex 250 int 100 con with ice pylon instead of shower and pylon, sundering, and tomb perks. it's so fun 1 shotting healers who think they are safe in their little circles... I lol every time
very little... i have more legendary armor... im using runestones... but the core princinpal and build is the same... however I am working on an updated video showing my latest setup with more details. Hope to have it done in the next week or so.
@@clashwithcutty7175 If using riposte (as I am) i first and foremost have sundering riposte for the rend. I'll explain this in more detail in my coming updated build video, but essentially it makes the flourish and finish deal 24% (sundering riposte on a 625) more damage if you your rend is up when you inflict the final bleed. I like vicious a lot. And for the longest time I primarly used Final Respite (keen, vicious, sundering riposte) because it is free and easy to get from Laz. But (for reasons I'll put in my next build video) I find it only necessary for one keen source. I have keen awareness on my my ring so I don't need it on my rapier. I currently use with sundering riposte, vicious, and keenly empowered. If one prefers to use evade over riposte (a very viable alternative) I would use omnidirectional evade in place of sundering riposte. I also use a frozen aquamarine runestone (not opal).
how is this in brimstone sands? i find it hard a lot of times to survive to get 3 bleeds on my target but it may be just a skill issue. i am also only at 600 gs.
I am have no issues at all surviving, ice gauntlet helps with that. I don't always use a 3 bleed finish. Sometimes just 2 bleeds is all you need. I'll do an updated video soon on this build, because it's the one I continue running.
Hey man, first of all thank you for the content you had me rolling. Adding in the Young guns clips lol Kids now days have no idea... Not a boomer but I'm old lol... To the build. I am pretty new, 200hrs in or so now. Been 60 a while. I have tried so many damn builds in OPR and I just get wrecked. Even if I manage to dodge 2-3 bruisers you got hordes more about to gravity well you. Sorry, comments can flame me but its just a lazy build. Especially when you have good gear you can make mistake after mistake and NOT get punished. With the shit talk out of the way, I love the concept of the rapier, and love the bleed tree. But not having great pvp gear and not 1k hours of PVP I was on the verge of just moving on to another game. Just seems a little out of balance when they supposedly match everyone at 600gs... yea right... This build is a lot of fun. I can actually dip in and out of the battles and practice my rotations and learn the counters of other builds cause I have a standing chance. I actually feel like I'm helping, and OOMG I laughed so hard my first kill actually on axe/warhammer. He dropped dead and i was like... wow i can get used to this. Anyways, a lot of bitching but thank you for this cause its really a great a build and starting point for people who want to learn the game/pvp in general.
@@EdgyButtermaker Looking forward to more vids! Love your content. I feel like this build would struggle against a couple bow users. Should I just kite and LoS? Bows and muskets seem to be strong agains this build. Thanks!
bad? no... just not as strong of a perk as it is on the weapon. but you would gain another perk on the weapon in place of it so it may even out in the end.
I want to run this type of build, I'm still very new to NW only being level 17 but I can use my patience and low level to take time to master this. Is this build good for pve content too or strictly PvP?
@@EdgyButtermaker that's brilliant to know thank you for the reply! Loving this game so far I wish I could play more but my work keeps me away for 14 hours a day 😂
Sounds fun. Very strong offensively, my only concern would be are they both too similar offensively - is there enough defense and CC... Plus you would have to go DEX for that to work, and I really like the 250 INT bonus for blood rapier, and DEX is only the secondary damage stat for hatchet. I think it would be challenging to play for sure, but rewarding when it pops off.
@@lyroxkh I haven't fully explored this set, but I think it could be very strong. The root and the oblivion combined with the blood rapier... yeah, pretty deadly.
However if you use a dex weapon with Rapier, then obviously not. But with rapier used more offensively (as opposed to how most use rapier) then your other weapon should be helpful defensively. So maybe... spear CCs? If you use a dex weapon like bow, you might do better to just play the normal defensive grace tree.
Began using this build myself. It's so satisfying to land a kill. Much more fun than normally landing a kill haha. How did you get that sick ring tho? Did you craft it?
Healing tomb on my IG for survivability. Tested deadly flourish on my rapier... not worth i. The increase is only to flourish and not finish or the consumed bleed. I'm using sundering riposte on my weapon instead. That's all of the weapon perks I'm using, if you want to see all perks I do show my gear in the video.
I watch a lot of new world RUclips vids, This one is really top notch , great work !
Thank you!
One of the best creators. You deserve more subs
Love the in depth vid + off meta build. I'll defo give it a go
Awesome vid, not seen Young Guns for years!
This is the coolest new world video I have ever seen.
Young guns its the best underrated movie ever !
So glad I found this. Have been running full bleed spear Rapier build and wanted to try IG Rapier w/light armor. Wasn't sure how ice gem with Rapier and high int would work on the tondo bleed. This is excellent content sir, great work.
Great production on this vid. The 250INT tip is good to know (prolonged bleed as DOT) I run this build on occasion, and look forward to trying your variation.
except in the last vid where he ran 150dex and not 250 int (40 stam dodge rolls)
I see me lol. Great job bud got to show some support and love your way
love this build and the wh/bb too!
your a demon!, very nice build
btw im glad ur making NW content again!
I haven't stopped playing... I'm just slow to create content being a casual player.
@@EdgyButtermaker oh ok cool!
When I saw cold blooded and seen ig/ blood tree rapier. I was shook cause it fits perfectly
Lmao bruh running in a straight line and not using pots when low health had me anxious
very nice build
I saw some discussions about finish: that it doesn't benefit from any empower, that it can't be buffed by new evade perk and that deadly flourish only applies to flourish and not finish. Have you tested those and can confirm as user of this? Also what about trenchant strikes (11% more dmg with grit)? If finish has grit, wouldn't that make entire part of bleeds burst stronger by 11% (or is it counted only towards 120% of finish)? Great idea for a build overall - I was exploring it couple of patches ago, back when ring was extending bleeding by 15% and gave up. But i never though that 250 INT would benefit bleed (it is not spell after all).
"Trenchant" is only fully charged heavy attacks, It's called Thwarting Strikes for the grit, and no it would not be worth just having for deadly, even if it does work, the big damage comes from finish as shown in the video I currently have a Keen Tondo/Vicious/Keenly Empowered Rapier and It's really good burst damage even if the finish damage can't crit, also Cut Flawed Aquamarines will do more damage overall than T5 Pristines will
dude this guy had deadly flourish on his rapier with VG oblivion along with tondo, im a 300 con heavy full resil, they flourish and finished me when I was about 50% health in one shot.
Empower does not influence the tondo stacks burst so it was more to strip your fortifies.
so first this is a great build and funny video. been playing variations of this for 2 days now. I have to say my favorite so far is 150 dex 250 int 100 con with ice pylon instead of shower and pylon, sundering, and tomb perks. it's so fun 1 shotting healers who think they are safe in their little circles... I lol every time
LOVE IT! Nice.
@@EdgyButtermaker hey what movie is that btw? looks hilarious
@@tommyddurand Young Guns
@@Godspamit I test with ice pylon, and it works great.. i just like the escapability of ice shower... but pylon is great in the build.
have you changed anything about this build or gear since the video?
very little... i have more legendary armor... im using runestones... but the core princinpal and build is the same... however I am working on an updated video showing my latest setup with more details. Hope to have it done in the next week or so.
@@EdgyButtermaker you show two different rapiers with two different perks. Which one do you use most of the time?
@@clashwithcutty7175 If using riposte (as I am) i first and foremost have sundering riposte for the rend. I'll explain this in more detail in my coming updated build video, but essentially it makes the flourish and finish deal 24% (sundering riposte on a 625) more damage if you your rend is up when you inflict the final bleed. I like vicious a lot. And for the longest time I primarly used Final Respite (keen, vicious, sundering riposte) because it is free and easy to get from Laz. But (for reasons I'll put in my next build video) I find it only necessary for one keen source. I have keen awareness on my my ring so I don't need it on my rapier. I currently use with sundering riposte, vicious, and keenly empowered. If one prefers to use evade over riposte (a very viable alternative) I would use omnidirectional evade in place of sundering riposte. I also use a frozen aquamarine runestone (not opal).
@@EdgyButtermaker really looking forward to the video!
how is this in brimstone sands? i find it hard a lot of times to survive to get 3 bleeds on my target but it may be just a skill issue. i am also only at 600 gs.
I am have no issues at all surviving, ice gauntlet helps with that. I don't always use a 3 bleed finish. Sometimes just 2 bleeds is all you need. I'll do an updated video soon on this build, because it's the one I continue running.
Hey man, first of all thank you for the content you had me rolling. Adding in the Young guns clips lol Kids now days have no idea... Not a boomer but I'm old lol... To the build. I am pretty new, 200hrs in or so now. Been 60 a while. I have tried so many damn builds in OPR and I just get wrecked. Even if I manage to dodge 2-3 bruisers you got hordes more about to gravity well you. Sorry, comments can flame me but its just a lazy build. Especially when you have good gear you can make mistake after mistake and NOT get punished. With the shit talk out of the way, I love the concept of the rapier, and love the bleed tree. But not having great pvp gear and not 1k hours of PVP I was on the verge of just moving on to another game. Just seems a little out of balance when they supposedly match everyone at 600gs... yea right... This build is a lot of fun. I can actually dip in and out of the battles and practice my rotations and learn the counters of other builds cause I have a standing chance. I actually feel like I'm helping, and OOMG I laughed so hard my first kill actually on axe/warhammer. He dropped dead and i was like... wow i can get used to this. Anyways, a lot of bitching but thank you for this cause its really a great a build and starting point for people who want to learn the game/pvp in general.
when new video?
Might wait for the october release...
This build still working now?
So badass
I'm still playing it... Will do some more vids on this build in the coming weeks.
@@EdgyButtermaker Looking forward to more vids! Love your content. I feel like this build would struggle against a couple bow users. Should I just kite and LoS? Bows and muskets seem to be strong agains this build. Thanks!
Heaving those weapons perks in armor is bad ?
bad? no... just not as strong of a perk as it is on the weapon. but you would gain another perk on the weapon in place of it so it may even out in the end.
@@EdgyButtermaker cool I miss Ice shower perk
I want to run this type of build, I'm still very new to NW only being level 17 but I can use my patience and low level to take time to master this. Is this build good for pve content too or strictly PvP?
I run it all the time in pve as well without issue and love it.
@@EdgyButtermaker that's brilliant to know thank you for the reply! Loving this game so far I wish I could play more but my work keeps me away for 14 hours a day 😂
@@idmgi9976 I hear that! I want to make more videos than I do, but.... life. =)
@@EdgyButtermaker well you've got a new sub from me and I look forward to your next upload! 💪 Life happens and your fans will wait
What do you think about blood Rapier / hatchet? Or maybe Blood Rapier / VG? To make use of the int?
I want to try it, have not done it yet.
Sounds fun. Very strong offensively, my only concern would be are they both too similar offensively - is there enough defense and CC... Plus you would have to go DEX for that to work, and I really like the 250 INT bonus for blood rapier, and DEX is only the secondary damage stat for hatchet. I think it would be challenging to play for sure, but rewarding when it pops off.
Blood Rapier/ VG? :D
@@lyroxkh I haven't fully explored this set, but I think it could be very strong. The root and the oblivion combined with the blood rapier... yeah, pretty deadly.
How do you have 40 stamina dodge in light if you only have 50 DEX O.o ???
I don't. However, if there happens to be a clip in my video where I do dodge with 40 I was probably testing higher dex, and lower con.
I also have shirking energy and stamina recovery.
@@EdgyButtermaker you really think that 30% from 250 INT is worth slightly less damage on Rapier and a lot less defense (cheaper dodge)?
@@FinchFinley Yes I do! Especially when your other weapon is an INT weapon.
However if you use a dex weapon with Rapier, then obviously not. But with rapier used more offensively (as opposed to how most use rapier) then your other weapon should be helpful defensively. So maybe... spear CCs? If you use a dex weapon like bow, you might do better to just play the normal defensive grace tree.
where i can find this dummys ?
They are in all of the war camps outside of each fort.
Began using this build myself. It's so satisfying to land a kill. Much more fun than normally landing a kill haha. How did you get that sick ring tho? Did you craft it?
I bought a while ago for fairly cheap when nobody really wanted blood letting. I want to say around 50k.
INT gem is lowering your burst damage as converted part is NOT counting towards tondo damage - you might consider this.
This is untrue
Hmm, I've got a keen, vicious, sundering rapier (forget its name) and an Int ring with keen, hearty, bloodletting. I'm gonna have to give this a go.
Perks?
Healing tomb on my IG for survivability. Tested deadly flourish on my rapier... not worth i. The increase is only to flourish and not finish or the consumed bleed. I'm using sundering riposte on my weapon instead. That's all of the weapon perks I'm using, if you want to see all perks I do show my gear in the video.
Off meta ... FOR NOW.