How To Easily Fit Coving ~ Extension #20
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- Опубликовано: 3 июн 2021
- James is fitting the coving and sharing some tips and tricks.
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I've done this for years and I never knew that type had top and bottom edge. Explains a few things now. Big help that
One edge where the adhesive goes used to be more rounded. Now it has ceiling edge printed on it.
I’m USA they don’t mark the back.. I see mouldings get installed upside down all the time.. but I just sand my floors and shut up. Nobody likes a know it all.
lol and me
Learnt something within a few minutes of this video starting that there was a top and bottom to coving. Thanks James !
really helpful video thanks guys saved me from certain disaster
Great job on explaining the installation process! If anyone's ever in need of some high-quality coving, feel free to reach out to us!
I just love watching you guys at work. I self built a rather large extension, yes just me. All the trades and love making things. My tool box is is full. All the tools for every trade. I reckoned if I was not employing labour I could go and splash out on equipment. By and large I got it right by reading ,watching and understanding the dynamics of the various materials from concrete to timber, to plastics. Watching your videos has been a total pleasure. I have to concede that when it came to plastering large areas I called in the cavalry, also the slater for the roof and the roughcaster for the harling (Scottish for pebble dash). Great stuff keep it up. I am just coming up to 73 and those big 6inch blocks are getting heavier by the day.
Well done you buddy. Bet you did a good job too man. Kudos
Going to put up plaster coving first time. Unfortunately builers have insulated 2 walls and left the old coving there. So the original coving is going through the new wall. I have to cut it back about 1'
Take off the old coving replace it with new. Not looking forward trying to cut 45 degree angle whilst the coving is in situ. I'm 69yrs old. So fun and games.
This video saves me a load of trouble. I now know that I am not going to pick up the coving, I'm going to pick up the phone. Someone who knows what there are doing will be sooo much better at this than I will. Thank you.
James has done a great job,especially given he is not a plasterer. Thanks for sharing
The mitre tool is excellent and a game changer! Spent hours messing around with mitre boxes. Thanks for the tips, coving now up in the bedroom and the Mrs is happy 😁
I really enjoy the videos with James in, hes a genuinely nice guy. Bet hes a great guy to work with. His works spot on
Thank you James and Roger. Again I've learn something. You've explained why I had issues when I had a go.......never new there was a wall and ceiling edge. Plus that's a great mitre tool. Awesome 👍
Turned out great! here in Australia, most houses have cornice. Our general coving is same on both sides so you don't need to worry which way it is. I like that little cutting tool instead of the mitre box
Is there anything James can’t do? Lol the man is a great all rounder. Everything he puts his hand to he makes it look like quality. Great video, keep them coming 👍🏻
He can't hide very well :D
@@stanieman I couldn't agree more with you quality craftsman
Best video on RUclips with very good description on cutting mitres, the only thing I would mention is always cut into the curve of the coving. 👍
The craftsmanship, skills and knowledge these guys is just absolutely amazing. Thank you so much for sharing
Thanks for this, having a go in a couple of weeks! Best how to video I found. Things have changed a bit in twenty years.
Fantastic lesson. Thanks for patiently and simply describing the method and demonstrating the technique.
Excellent quality work again 👍👍. James is a very good all rounder. Does a bit of everything. Saves himself tons of cash doing the job himself.
Did this job a few years ago, wish this video was around back then. James was far calmer than I 😂
Could have done with seeing this video 2 months ago! Did a bedroom, hallway and landing myself. All fun and games until I found my walls massively out of plumb! Good work guys 👍🏼
I’m a DIYer who hates coving. Yet I’m still watching… remember fitting coving with my dad in my teens. No more nails and propping up up with all sorts of long stuff we can find. 7 out of ten times it would stay up.
Thanks for this, given me a lot more confidence for when I start the job tomorrow.
Another great video. Thanks guys
Another top video. Thanks james and Rodger
Awesome tutorial guys, especially liked how the camera spent time and repetion showing the cuts being made. Great for a newbie like me :)
Very comprehensive, lots of good points here that many others leave out, thank you
Great video guys, thanks
People pay good money and time for courses that give less information than this craftsman at work.
And better seeing it on a real job so then you see all the issues you run into.
Great video mate, can completely relate to when you was on about the coving box and how it frazzles the head even after years of using 1 it still seems to catch ya out time to time! Mine was the wickes 1, I swapped about 4 years ago to the same 1 you was using and never looked back, I chucked the coving box away, it was enough to send a man insane 😂👍
Brilliant video guys, thanks for taking the time out to do this😎
Beautiful job. A room doesn't look finished without coving.
Love this channel soooooo much
First time ever fitting coving and used my double bevelled mitre saw for the cuts.
Great video, great guy. 👍🏼
Great Tutorial.
Thanks so much, great stuff!
My neighbours Ricky (next door) & Bert (opposite) were roof & ceiling men respectively. Between them, they fixed a leaky roof over my cloakroom and made the ceiling good. Bert's final touch was coving. Best room in the house.
Nice video with very in depth tips and things to think about. It’s not as easy as everyone thinks. I can tell you’re a cabinetmaker or something similar based on how you set up the room and pinged lines and care taken to get it right. I’m a professional plasterer and I would have had that whole room cut in 1 go, then put it all up in one mix. There is a way to blade the adhesive on about 100times quicker than that with just a trowel, goes on in one nice even bead.
I use a mitre box and hand saw only, and there is absolutely no way you should be flipping the mitre box!!! It should only be slid from one end to the other. Another small advantage of using the mitre box is the cornice can be cut in just a forward cutting direction so the paper face isn’t roughed up if you were to cut on the backward motion too. So you don’t need to sand each end! The mitre box can also be used to hook your tape on you have to measure and cut 2 external mitres.
Thanks for sharing this😊
Good one Roger: how to hold ships together - it was riveting! LOL!
An absolute treat to watch James again doing an amazing job.
Great tips on coving. Once you've watched this video your skills will improve and you'll have 'turned a corner'.
🤣👍🏻 Cheers guys for another awesome video.
Yeah great tool easy to store away as well 👍 great video
Great video very helpful 👍🏻👍🏻
Good informative vid as always
I’ve always used the mix yourself adhesive but tried the tube stuff last time, I was impressed with how easier and quicker it was although it needed a few nails to support until set. I don’t think I’ll go back to mixing the powder adhesive
Great video guys.👍 Looking forward to the next few videos showing how you fit picture rail and dado rail and not forgetting showing us how to Artex the ceiling. #oldschool 😎
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Nice job. I used to fit it as part of my main job, artexing (sorry). Never marked or drew lines ever. Make 2 test pieces about 1 foot long one with left and right internals and one with externals. Use artex as adhesive it stays usable for hours and cleans easier. If you use a caulker and scraper you can butter up a 3.5m length in 30 seconds.chuck your first internal up, use your test piece as a guide to twist up or down till the joint is tight. Put your next piece in and do the same in the corner/external with your test piece. Your joint in the middle can be adjusted to suit. Clean and move to next wall. That room you did should take an hour to do. Btw after putting miles of cove up never had any fall off, so no comments saying you can't do that.
Good tips.
Nice job
Let’s get the fibrehand Bloke back from about a year ago and get him to talk about projections and stopping in using fibre fix casting plaster and mitres, I like the triangle tool it’s what I use best way I got taught with coving and cornice is that it’s like a reverse mitre and not how you do skirting, top video again chaps need a bit more of dan the chippy the Einstein of the carpentry world, don’t see many true old school builders anymore like you lot
my god what a set of hands James has top man
I think you also need the brain.
Listening to you talk about using a mitre box for coving, it was like you were reading my mind haha. Done dozens of rooms using a mitre box, and still could never do it naturally without having to think it through lol.
I was always a massive forge fast fan coz I hated or Philips screws. But since the lockdowns my local toolstation never had any in stock. So I began buying the screw pack deals they had on of either the reiser cutters or the spectres and gotta say, they ain't as bad as I remember them. I never bother with any silver screws tho. They okay if you piloting but who has time for that when your just knocking up stud work or shutterinf
Great interesting video i put some coving up today just have to say all though mine was 4 small lengths your coving seemed to go up better than mine but im pleased with the result any way it was in a recess of my back bedroom.
I was told to soak the bare plaster first, and you can buy adhesive in a tube and mastic gun it. Much quicker and stays white and doesn’t shrink. I learnt the hard way sodding stuff!!!!!.......
Brilliant workmanship and very informative - thank you!
My father was a fantastically good joiner, I asked him to help me put 6 large boards on to my main living room wall which was 24 feet long, if I was doing this myself, when I got to the sockets I would have disconnected the socket and made a little hole to fit the wiring through, no he said I will measure it and we will cut the whole so it fits over the socket, I thought that will never fit as well as my idea, they all fitted like a glove on a woman with 5 legs, amazing skill that I could never match
Love the dad jokes Roger.
Can’t help put think of James Wade when I see this chap 🤣
I hate plaster coving but it sees to give a better finish. I tried the paper coated large coving about 15 years ago, all done properly and it was easy to do. Looked just like the plaster coving. But after about 2 months it started to crack on the mitres and along the lengths and one day I said the wrong thing to my missus and she stormed out slamming the door behind her and 2 lengths fell down. I was pretty pissed off as we had just sold the house and waiting to exchange contracts, out come the decofil and I stuck it up with that as it was all I had to hand, slapped some white emulsion on it. Just hope the new owners missus hasn't got permanent PMT like mine cos it will have all fallen down after a few months 😂😂😂😂
James Making An Apprentice Error 🪚😱❓
As Usual He Pulled It Out The Bag In The End👏👍
The great thing about James is that he insists we leave the mistakes in.
I hate doing this so much! I always cock up the angles. Going to give it another go soon and keep your tips in mind, good stuff 👍
Some years ago I coved a WHOLE flat wth the Swan-Neck coving - nice and fancy - if a bit expensive :-) ...... I was just putting up the last piece and then noticed! ....... I'd taken the writing on the back as the way the coving went UP! ...... OOPS!! .... WRONG! ..... The Builder just laughed, it looked just as good to a blind man ;-) ................ Surprised you didn't mention Artex as a coving adhesive ..... Always good for stirring up the comments ...... a bit like Fairy in the render ;-) ................ We used to use Artex when doing price-work ..... You could get a whole house on before you needed to get back on it to tidy it up .... And NO! it didn't ever fail either (To all of those GASPING at the very thought ;-)
I usually use the paper template but might try that one now
Great video I’ve done coving many times and it never came to me that there was a ceiling edge great video just wondering don’t see robin clevett on here much now are you guys both doing your own things now great content can’t wait for the next vid
2469 who do we appreciation! Skill builder!
I provided full guidance to James which enabled James to make this video.
This a a bonus comment.
Lovely job James, you should be a professional 😀
That’s the ultimate goal.
I once spent a weekend creating lovely diamond shaped holes for the coving corners, getting those internal corner cuts wrong time and time again. In the end created a set of template pieces to use to check the external and internal cuts. Not a job to rush imho
Top tip. The ceiling cut is 90° from the back edge. This is especially important when starting off using a mitre box.
I don’t fit much coving anymore nobody seems to want it but when it’s done it does look good
Lovely job as ever James 👌🏼, bit disappointed when you didn’t form the cove with plaster and a trowel 😉🧱👍🏼
I like this, great tips etc. But id love to see (as with other jobs you guys do) some of these jobs done on "old houses", ie, tough jobs. Jobs where walls aren't straight and true etc.
4:30 I’m quite tight but I use a festool drill lol
We, professionalals, always cut exact - with Kapex120
I use artex to stick it up with.
Lasts all day.
if you put one in upside down, they all got to go in upside down. excellent!
We need to take up a collection to buy James a laser level. Good layout tips. Fantastic looking finished job as always.
Thank you! We are in possession of the ultimate laser level courtesy of Dylan and Roger and we thoroughly appreciate it but this is a job for the chalk line.
Great vid, is there anything you cannot do James 🤣
James also knows how to destroy a DeWalt chop saw. He provided a training video on how to! hahahaha!
Get your self a gyproc mitre box £7 on line fits the coving perfect,
ive been coving for 30 years it’s all I use, and a lot easier. Also brush some PVA glue thinned 50 50 with water on the plaster walls and ceiling this will stop the adhesive sucking in and make it easier to clean off
Status coveeasy box seems to be no more, the macallister one looks similar. Two offcuts/opposites sets your corners/heights, and lets you know how close to square they are there and then 👍
I was taught when fitting cove to scratch the wall and ceiling in a cross cross pattern
Please do "hello mate!" in every James video.
In a way I wish we built like the yanks do. It looks fun. Everything is stud work and nail guns. I think the English way is kinda better and more structurally sound but it's messier and a lot more awkward at times. I've just priced a garden room but don't think I'll get it. Was basically gunna copy oakwood garden room's way.
I agree. The English way of affixing coving is more structurally sound and adds a lot of strength to the overall building. Load bearing English coving is better than the panel pinned USA method.
Different climates, different requirements. The yanks build plenty of masonry buildings in the colder areas like Philadelphia for example.
They do tend to build timber frame interior walls still tied in to a brick exterior.
@@amateurvegan2636 The Inuit build their housing out of snow and ice! How does that work? Using the thing that makes them cold to build a house out of!
You definitely won’t get it if you’re copying Oakwood garden rooms. Their prices are high because of their massive portfolio and extensive knowledge which is obviously portrayed to their customers when visiting them, which makes them spend the money.
@@stakkerhmnd Science. Get inside and they are warm yet don't melt.
First time I did coving I knew nothing. Looked good. Second time I knew only what I learnt the first time only I was more skilled all round, looked spot on.
I literally slapped a few 3m lengths up on my own, no tacks or screws or pinging lines. I’m more of a stop messing about and get on with it attitude. Nothing in this video is wrong. But it’s much more fun learning on the job. James without a doubt was that guy in the early days. ✌🏻
I always seal the cut dry joints as I go and a small amount of adhesive in the joint as I fix. They never crack then. Vacuum to hand for dust to keep tidy preferably with bluetooth button on hose or cheap remote switch to save your legs and back. Good demo though.
Lazer tape measure is a game changer although no real call for coving these days. Just not very popular it seems
Your painter is going to scream when he sees those red chalk lines.
I was thinking that myself that if they show he will have problems.
They’re covered with the adhesive.
Channel should be called "where's James"
“Hello Mate”
Great informative and instructional video.
The wood measuring block a great tip.
I understand the thick edge to the ceiling each time.
I have the metal cutting guide, but get confused on which way to position the guide.
Does the point of the guide always go to the wall side ?
I get confused and some of my joints/corners end up with the cutting edges with a large gap at centres, with the ends touching..
Any help appreciated..
x The Bigfella x
I Normally wet the walls first just so it don’t suck the mix dry
Yes, I do the same.
I did give it a watery pva earlier in the day.
For the internal measurements get James a cheap laser measure - 30 odd quid and it’ll save a lot of time on longer runs where the tapes wobbling all over the place.
Ian has a really good one but he wasn’t there that day. I will be investing in one though because they’re brilliant!
Does the hundred mill trick only happen when you are reading the tape upside down? It happens to everyone once in a while, but I swear it only seems to happen when I'm working metric and an upside down tape. In inches its always spot on.
A friend of mine mainly works in feet and inches and he very rarely measures and then marks it wrong and he said to me that when you work in feet and inches there’s only one of every number! I do often use feet and inches myself but it seems to be frowned upon.
Great video. As a DIYer put coving up all through the house a few years ago. Now moved and I have got to do it all again. I will try your method, but there is going to be a lot of swearing!
Just try and relax, it’s the best thing to do when dealing with wet trades.
Interesting you say it’s not very popular. Seems yo be everywhere here in Australia. Would you consider it a good option for hiding imperfections in plastered brick where the wall meets the ceiling?
Oh crap I just bought one of those mitre boxes..........it gonna play havoc with my dyslexia
Those cutting tools are awesome, borrowed one off a friend of mine to try a few years ago and loved it. Don’t do enough coving to bother buying one though
One thing I do is a wet brush to the wall and ceiling gives you more time to clean adhesive off
Hi skill builder iv watched your video over about ten times and got it to a tee.iv a job to do which is a 90mm cove it’s got a slight concave in middle but has a small pattern on top and bottom of it will the wonder mitre still work on this
23:24 I'd hope so, it's fkn perfect!.
I looked up ForgeFast screws and there was this demo video featuring Robin.. Is this some sort of hidden advertising 😂
It's almost like they're sponsored...
Load of builders pencils with sharpner quid in poundland