What hurts the most is that steam locomotives as a technology still had so much potential to improve and advance but it was all stifled by dieselization and road competition. If you think about it, the U.S. could’ve continued to keep steam engines in regular service until the early to mid 1970s.
The ACE3000 project was attempting to show us what a 21st century steam locomotive could look like, or at least a steam locomotive in the 80s. China rather famously was still building 2-8-2 and 2-10-2 locomotives into the 1980s, and continued to use the QJ 2-10-2s until 2006, while the JS class 2-8-2s have more recently been retired in 2018-2022. These weren’t even really modified designs, they were pretty much steam locomotives exactly as they would have come out of the factory in 1945. Zimbabwe and South Africa both had limited steam service as recently as 2006 as well. Steam could have and did survive into the 21st century as genuine revenue equipment, sadly North America was always gonna dieselize before everyone else, because at the time we were the centre of technological innovation in the world, especially when it came to trains. Funny how things change..
@@Lv-sl3rmI mean. It actually depends on the cost of labor and available fuel supplies in a given country. Big steam can compete in raw power. it's just a maintenance & infrastructure hog.
It's unfortunately capped by the logistics of keeping steam engines in service, and supplied up and down the line. The real tragedy is the preservation wasn't as thorough.
My grandpa used to tell me about seeing dead lines of old steam locomotives and cabooses, often from hearing stories from his siblings. imagine one day your riding high on the rails, your signature locomotive may be a bit rusty, and dirty, but its still yours, then you turn up to work and there's a sleek new diesel at the head of your train, you think little of it till you roll out of the yard to get your train for the day, and you see your old steam locomotive, sitting stashed away in a deep corner of the yard, crammed between its siblings and cousins, waiting for the torch. for some its didn't feel like anything, but for some, they lost a member of their family.
This touched me beyond my love of trains...I've just been thinking about how many great people I've interacted with my life that I wish I could've saved in a bottle to revisit.... But like these steam engines, when the world deems your time is up, thats it....
I’ve watched this so many times. I love the song, the cinematic angles, and everything else. This video certainly takes the cake for my favorite railroader music video I’ve seen thus far.
And as the age of steam comes to a close the special trains called the dead train we're a come sight. No longer will anyone hear the loud thunderous shout of a steam whistle or the chugging of pistons and driving rods. Instead, the age of diesel shows a future, without steam
Steam engines were all targets to scrap,it’s like one broken rod they are scrapped immediately,or one piston burst they are sold for scrap from dieselizlation. It’s sad to see them go after what they severed while in severice…
This was so beautiful! You deserve so much more views. I knew what was coming but it will always hurt till the day I die or do something about it I hope, The steam trains will get a happy ending😢🚂
You know shortlines like these never actually needed to dieselize due to the fact they never were going to be needing to much crew either way, 6 engines at most for a daily run is all managable, these days they only run 1 train either way, these could've kept the steam engine alive till today with alot of them already being connected to coal mines or logging camps that supply a train easier than diesel oil from Texas... Yet it all still happened.
Well, the technological advances caused it to happen, much easier to have an engineer and conductor flip a switch to start the locomotive instead of waiting a few hours for it to gain pressure. Even with all of the fuel access diesels are mechanically easier to fix
@@jimmypetrock sort of, but at this point it's been so long, and it costs so much to run just one small steam engine, most of the lines that do have one or two steam engines very rarely run them, and when they do, it's usually for publicity events. However some railroads are known to occasionally move revenue freight with preserved steam engines. IRM(Illinois Railroad Museum) moved a string of empty coal hoppers they had been storing on their facility using Frisco 1630 a couple years back, resulting in lots of publicity for their little 2-10-0. This was back in 2018 I wanna say? Reading and Northern famously used several strings of coal cars(both empty and loaded) for 2102's break-in runs back in 2022, which was a big event because this was a full size road engine pulling mainline traffic, not just a little shunter pushing around boxcars in a railyard. Strasburg Railroad famously uses their steam engines(usually either 90 or 475) to serve a small handful of common carrier businesses on their line, which are then transferred to the NS via the former Pennsylvania RR. Then of course there's UP 4014, which isn't even a shortline anymore, that's straight up a class 1 railroad with the biggest steam engine on the planet... But they do also use her for occasional freight movements as well. It's exceedingly rare, and every time a steam engine pulls _actual_ freight it always(usually) gets a lot of attention. But it's not unheard of. What should be noted though is that 100% of the locomotives I just mentioned, and any other steam locomotive currently operating in 2024, have ALL been rebuilt since the end of the steam era. There isn't a single steam locomotive, not even famous UP 844, that has not had every component thoroughly checked, repaired, or replaced, since they were operating as common carrier equipment.
Recently just did this on my railroader play through, deadlined all my steam locomotives and just started running “funeral” consists to the sell point.
@AppalachianMountaineer1863 futures scary. Steam was nicer. Lol Not telling you how to run ur railroad. Good luck as im still stuck with early game steam
thats a completely true but sad commentary on the fall of steam Luckily with the Game Railroader we dont need to worry about a Board of Directors being all like Steam is completely unprofitable scrap them all and fully dieselize
This is awesome at my RUclips channel iron horse throttle Master there's a train song list that has a Jim Croce train song that I've never found anywhere else what does one place on RUclips but I have it on my list I have a lot of public playlists check it out man there's lots of songs you can make train songs with on railroader I love railroader I play that game myself
@@shortlinestudios that is so cool awesome I hope you have good luck in all your endeavors making a RUclips channel peace out man thank you for checking out my list I love to share my music
What hurts the most is that steam locomotives as a technology still had so much potential to improve and advance but it was all stifled by dieselization and road competition. If you think about it, the U.S. could’ve continued to keep steam engines in regular service until the early to mid 1970s.
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I mean... SURE. But if we compare the reality of stean running VS the reality of diesel? Yeah sadly the diesels are gonna win each time.
The ACE3000 project was attempting to show us what a 21st century steam locomotive could look like, or at least a steam locomotive in the 80s.
China rather famously was still building 2-8-2 and 2-10-2 locomotives into the 1980s, and continued to use the QJ 2-10-2s until 2006, while the JS class 2-8-2s have more recently been retired in 2018-2022.
These weren’t even really modified designs, they were pretty much steam locomotives exactly as they would have come out of the factory in 1945.
Zimbabwe and South Africa both had limited steam service as recently as 2006 as well.
Steam could have and did survive into the 21st century as genuine revenue equipment, sadly North America was always gonna dieselize before everyone else, because at the time we were the centre of technological innovation in the world, especially when it came to trains.
Funny how things change..
@@Lv-sl3rmI mean. It actually depends on the cost of labor and available fuel supplies in a given country. Big steam can compete in raw power. it's just a maintenance & infrastructure hog.
It's unfortunately capped by the logistics of keeping steam engines in service, and supplied up and down the line. The real tragedy is the preservation wasn't as thorough.
My grandpa used to tell me about seeing dead lines of old steam locomotives and cabooses, often from hearing stories from his siblings. imagine one day your riding high on the rails, your signature locomotive may be a bit rusty, and dirty, but its still yours, then you turn up to work and there's a sleek new diesel at the head of your train, you think little of it till you roll out of the yard to get your train for the day, and you see your old steam locomotive, sitting stashed away in a deep corner of the yard, crammed between its siblings and cousins, waiting for the torch. for some its didn't feel like anything, but for some, they lost a member of their family.
Truly is a sad site to see for railfans
This touched me beyond my love of trains...I've just been thinking about how many great people I've interacted with my life that I wish I could've saved in a bottle to revisit....
But like these steam engines, when the world deems your time is up, thats it....
I’ve watched this so many times. I love the song, the cinematic angles, and everything else. This video certainly takes the cake for my favorite railroader music video I’ve seen thus far.
Tysm, means a lot, glad you enjoyed the video ❤
And as the age of steam comes to a close the special trains called the dead train we're a come sight. No longer will anyone hear the loud thunderous shout of a steam whistle or the chugging of pistons and driving rods.
Instead, the age of diesel shows a future, without steam
This is the last place place i though i would see this song, pretty good use
Ty!
Steam engines were all targets to scrap,it’s like one broken rod they are scrapped immediately,or one piston burst they are sold for scrap from dieselizlation. It’s sad to see them go after what they severed while in severice…
Reminds me of old Trainz music videos from late 2000s and early 2010s. Well done!
This deserves an award 🥇
This was so beautiful! You deserve so much more views. I knew what was coming but it will always hurt till the day I die or do something about it I hope, The steam trains will get a happy ending😢🚂
Nice and I also saw the teaser on the screen shot page
This was amazing, well done!
Thank you so much!
love it well done
Thank you! Much appreciated
Good video!
You know shortlines like these never actually needed to dieselize due to the fact they never were going to be needing to much crew either way, 6 engines at most for a daily run is all managable, these days they only run 1 train either way, these could've kept the steam engine alive till today with alot of them already being connected to coal mines or logging camps that supply a train easier than diesel oil from Texas... Yet it all still happened.
Well, the technological advances caused it to happen, much easier to have an engineer and conductor flip a switch to start the locomotive instead of waiting a few hours for it to gain pressure. Even with all of the fuel access diesels are mechanically easier to fix
Many class 2s opted to run steam into the mid-60s, whereas some class 3s could be seen running steam as late as 1984
So yes they could and did run steam much longer than the mainlines, but not for 60 + years sadly, eventually technology reaches these lines
@@trainknut There must be like a few shortlines out there with steam right? Also I love this video.
@@jimmypetrock sort of, but at this point it's been so long, and it costs so much to run just one small steam engine, most of the lines that do have one or two steam engines very rarely run them, and when they do, it's usually for publicity events.
However some railroads are known to occasionally move revenue freight with preserved steam engines.
IRM(Illinois Railroad Museum) moved a string of empty coal hoppers they had been storing on their facility using Frisco 1630 a couple years back, resulting in lots of publicity for their little 2-10-0.
This was back in 2018 I wanna say?
Reading and Northern famously used several strings of coal cars(both empty and loaded) for 2102's break-in runs back in 2022, which was a big event because this was a full size road engine pulling mainline traffic, not just a little shunter pushing around boxcars in a railyard.
Strasburg Railroad famously uses their steam engines(usually either 90 or 475) to serve a small handful of common carrier businesses on their line, which are then transferred to the NS via the former Pennsylvania RR.
Then of course there's UP 4014, which isn't even a shortline anymore, that's straight up a class 1 railroad with the biggest steam engine on the planet... But they do also use her for occasional freight movements as well.
It's exceedingly rare, and every time a steam engine pulls _actual_ freight it always(usually) gets a lot of attention.
But it's not unheard of.
What should be noted though is that 100% of the locomotives I just mentioned, and any other steam locomotive currently operating in 2024, have ALL been rebuilt since the end of the steam era.
There isn't a single steam locomotive, not even famous UP 844, that has not had every component thoroughly checked, repaired, or replaced, since they were operating as common carrier equipment.
Recently just did this on my railroader play through, deadlined all my steam locomotives and just started running “funeral” consists to the sell point.
jesus, uhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Wow.
What did the steamies do to deserve that?
@@tomofouterwarp1076 the future, that’s what happened
@AppalachianMountaineer1863 futures scary. Steam was nicer. Lol
Not telling you how to run ur railroad. Good luck as im still stuck with early game steam
@@tomofouterwarp1076 gets expensive in the game running steam locomotives. When you get that first diesel it really changes how you play
I presume this is inspired by Britishit railposting's british rail edit with this song? Steam and this song mesh so well.
You should do Railroad Song by Jim Croce next
That’s in the works, I’m currently modeling a locomotive for the game rn so it’s not my top priority but it’s going to be the next video
thats a completely true but sad commentary on the fall of steam Luckily with the Game Railroader we dont need to worry about a Board of Directors being all like Steam is completely unprofitable scrap them all and fully dieselize
What are your graphic settings? This looks amazing.
Just max everything, and the right time in the day I suppose lol. I was surprised how good my game looked when I was filming this as well
How did u make the engines not burn steam
@@Dee_fy I just used a command to empty the fuel
@@shortlinestudios alr
Is this inspired by BritShits edit?
Actually ya lol, I saw it and I thought it would be a goof song to do
What about Thomas and Friends characters based on the real life steam engines?
what
Game name?
Railroader it’s in the steam store for near 50 dollars
@@Bud-uz1bw THX.
@@isaacandme9742 np I gotchu
This is awesome at my RUclips channel iron horse throttle Master there's a train song list that has a Jim Croce train song that I've never found anywhere else what does one place on RUclips but I have it on my list I have a lot of public playlists check it out man there's lots of songs you can make train songs with on railroader I love railroader I play that game myself
Definitely on the list, I have a few other songs in mind as well
@@shortlinestudios that is so cool awesome I hope you have good luck in all your endeavors making a RUclips channel peace out man thank you for checking out my list I love to share my music
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