Although I am not from real estate industry, I realised that malls that are individually owned and is not lease back to the management, will die naturally. This is because the owner will rent to any tom, dick and harry who are willing to pay rent. The management has no control of the type of tenants. So, when I see a dying mall, 99% of the shop lots are individually owned. may be the supermarket won't die here, but the rest of the shop lots will.
This place is becoming more like Amcorp mall. At least Amcorp has the weekend hobbyist attraction. What the mall needs is foot traffic, and having events on the the weekends helps, the reason why I didn't bother looking at the residence here, is because I didn't like the look of the basement carpark - walls were unfinished, and very dark. There used to be a popular chinese restaurant (but not sure whether they are still there) and at least a post office. It has good connectivity via the Wawasan MRT stop, the 2nd floor could be rented out to a college/kids education/corporate training center, at least more foot traffic that way, but it will mean that individual landlords will need to work together.
This brings back memories when I was working at the nearby Proton main factory. In the early 2010s this place was called Digital Mall .... it was meant to be like Digital Mall PJ or Lowyat. Those days, anchor tenant was Aeon Big and there were several IT stores ... I sometimes go there to find PC things. But even then, the footfall was not really good. I don't know why, maybe there's not many residents in the condo above.
This building used to be an abandoned development until it was revived about 10-12 years ago. It was called the Usj Digital Mall initially, if i am not mistaken.
There are too many malls n hypermarkets in USJ/ SJ area, and one is not far from the other. Not to forget Giant, Mydin and Aeon Big. This 19 Mall has always been a convenient drinking place, grabbing beers and chill with USJ neighbourhood friends since day one.
Not to forget that Subang Jaya is more than 45 years "OLD" and so does its pioneer residents. Since Subang is already congested with mall , no one there will go to USJ19. Even The Summit fail to attract crowds from Subang since it first open more than 30 years ago. Also there are plenty of good and cheap foods in SS15 and Taipan , so no crowd goes to USJ19 for food.
i still remembered when they first open there was lots of tech shop..never set my foot in their prime. i came first time in mid 2010s?? couldnt remember because i wanted to buy cheap earphones and somethingelse, this is the closest tech mall in Puchong but it was dead..only 1-2 phone shops opened and there was lelong sale but i dont remember what it is. but yeah this mall and one city is dead mall already. at least main place is still bustling the last time i went there ( 1 year ago). the way i see it nowadays and few years back developer really love to do bottom mall and then apartment/condo on upper part and mostly the mall is dead.
I drove past it more than 10 times more than 15 years ago. If I remember correctly , during its construction it were abandon for at least 3 years , possibly the condo sale were bad and no cash flow to continue
Strange? Not at all. There are too many "Mall" around Subang Jaya (Excluding Puchong which is under MBSJ as well) Sunway Pyramid Sunway Geo Empire Subang Subang Parade Aeon mall SS15 court yard USJ summit Damen Giant USJ Mydin My place One City USJ19 Mall (in video) Etc... It just way too much
Wow. BTW I have migrated away from Malaysia over 18 years ago. I have been watching some RUclips videos only about those popular tourist places where there are too many tourist and have not seen the slower side or real places that is like this. That is why I am surprised. Now I can see the true picture.
@@candid244 Even then, it's too strange for a neighborhood mall (with even a cluster school next to it), because there are no alternative malls within the walkable radius except for Main Place, which is more thriving eventho much farther than the nearest LRT station. If you ask me, I think the neigbourhood commercial area itself is the problem, compared to Main Place with good restaurants and bars surrounding the mall, Palazio 19 is surrounded by car workshops and factories, attracting a bit more immigrant workers, that itself makes it undesirable for the M40 and T20 of subangites to walk to and around it.
Used to think this is the subang jaya version of lowyat because of the naming of the mall "Digital Mall" years ago. Bought my pc stuff back when there are still computer shops there.
The weird part about Subang n USJ is despite it's a mature township, only two malls made relevant. Main place and Empire. The rest just cant stand up well or being run down, just like this usj 19 city mall.
Ah you betul betul came from my recommendation. So much to comment so much to say but didn’t want to say much because I am one of them who purchase this during launch I think 1998 or 2000 And I am staying above. Didnt want to get into too much politics at where I stay. I think JBR Bundle use to me the main attraction. People came from far away too.
@@chestercheng.realestatehonestly this is a good series... but do take a little more care abt your English spelling..( I let the pronunciation alone as pple do have accent).. the mistake is bought the property instead of brought the place.. unless u intended some sort of pun.. nb another glaring mistake earlier is buy tank.. someone pulling your leg by commenting buy aeroplane! There's another trip of 3 guys(samseng looking funny guys) speaking in Mandarin+ dialects with lots of vulgar words thrown in .. exploring run down, business down ghosts malls.. they're hilarious but yours is more serious and business like! 👍😊
Mainly this service apartment was overhyped back in the late 90s. The selling point of this was that there would be a mall on the ground floor making it a good ROI or so it seems until the financial crisis back in 1997 hit which caused a long delay after the next developer took over and by the time it was ready the hyped literally died and was just not able to pick itself up because many did not stay there and was rented out to foreigners making the condo not an upper classes standard hence not many shoppers.
@@chestercheng.realestate I am sure you would know since you are in this industry. Have you tried using the lift to the service apartment. Not in a very good condition and it is slow. It can stop and the door would not open. Parking is not even available for the residence. Not even one.
yes...its gloomy like a zombie scene...n i go there often just for Ninso(quick grab n go)...it was an abandoned project before,just like MainPlace...used to be digital mall(like LowYat) also nvr worked out...poor mgmt!
GEM Banana Leaf contract was terminated by Palazzo management for reasons known to themselves. It appears the Mall management isn't really interested in promoting the Mall. Also there was bitter infighting between two parties.
Can you kindly venture out of your zone and review the Pavilion Mall at Pusat Bandar Damansara? I think it is a failure but many people would like to hear your comments. Thanks.
I've been there twice a few months ago. I doubt they'll let it fail because it's integrated with the Office block / Residence Tower. Yes it's quiet but it's rather posh and Tesla is there.
Many towers above still under construction so just give it time. Crowds from Hong Leong HQ and Menara Millenium will sustain it for now. One thing lacking about this mall is no food court for lower income earners. Even Pavi BB and BJ have food courts.
Who's doing the marketing & promotion of this place? I have never heard of this mall even though I frequent Subang Jaya for F&B all the time. Most of the malls die (3 Damansara, Evolve, Citta, Glo Damansara, SS2 Mall, Empire City, Main Place), almost died but holding on (Starling Mall, Paradigm, Atria, Jaya Shopping Centre, Jaya 33, Centrepoint, Da Men) and totally ancient/need refurbishment (Subang Parade, Amcorp Mall) are in the same catchment areas with the same chain shops and same chain F&B. Again, who's doing the marketing? What's so wonderful about your mall that makes me want to go there and spend my time and money? What is the concept of your mall? Who's your anchor tenant?
Plazzo 19 Mall, even to many Subang residents they won't know it existed. Mainly due to the name change in such a short time. Some of those malls you mention are in my list to visit malls. Many of them I have not visited more than twice in my lifetime
As a middle-aged shopper, I just want to shop at familiar outlets like NSK, Lotus, M&S, Uniqlo, Zara, Padini, Sketchers, H&M, Madam Kwan, Caring & Big Pharmacies and the like - middle class jaunts. Maybe this mall caters to the young with the games outlet and very innovative shops. Actually it's the elderly who have the money, not so much young people with dependents
dead mall… we can see only Suria KLCC, Mall at BB, Mid Valley, The Exchange, Sogo KL, Sunway Piramid, Nu Sentral can survive… most important things, this mall got tourist attraction… touristy place made a place survive.. the others im really can feels sympathy..
Although I am not from real estate industry, I realised that malls that are individually owned and is not lease back to the management, will die naturally. This is because the owner will rent to any tom, dick and harry who are willing to pay rent. The management has no control of the type of tenants. So, when I see a dying mall, 99% of the shop lots are individually owned. may be the supermarket won't die here, but the rest of the shop lots will.
Much the same as Summit USJ.
same reason for sungei wang plaza too
And the lots occupied by the large anchor tenants are usually on the ground floor are owned by the developers themselves.
@@veronicachong6958 Ini cakap betul.
This place is becoming more like Amcorp mall. At least Amcorp has the weekend hobbyist attraction. What the mall needs is foot traffic, and having events on the the weekends helps, the reason why I didn't bother looking at the residence here, is because I didn't like the look of the basement carpark - walls were unfinished, and very dark. There used to be a popular chinese restaurant (but not sure whether they are still there) and at least a post office. It has good connectivity via the Wawasan MRT stop, the 2nd floor could be rented out to a college/kids education/corporate training center, at least more foot traffic that way, but it will mean that individual landlords will need to work together.
This brings back memories when I was working at the nearby Proton main factory.
In the early 2010s this place was called Digital Mall .... it was meant to be like Digital Mall PJ or Lowyat.
Those days, anchor tenant was Aeon Big and there were several IT stores ... I sometimes go there to find PC things.
But even then, the footfall was not really good. I don't know why, maybe there's not many residents in the condo above.
Yes, The concept was supposed to be Digital Mall. back then with Aeon Big they have a decent foot traffic
This building used to be an abandoned development until it was revived about 10-12 years ago. It was called the Usj Digital Mall initially, if i am not mistaken.
Yes, you are correct. Back then during initial opening this mall has a nick name of "Digital Mall"
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There are too many malls n hypermarkets in USJ/ SJ area, and one is not far from the other. Not to forget Giant, Mydin and Aeon Big. This 19 Mall has always been a convenient drinking place, grabbing beers and chill with USJ neighbourhood friends since day one.
Thanks for doing the hard work so that we don't have to. ❤
My pleasure!
I live nearby, and i believe its management issue, not location and other exterior factors. same as One City
They say it's 'babikia's' project. He finished it up after abandoned.
Not to forget that Subang Jaya is more than 45 years "OLD" and so does its pioneer residents.
Since Subang is already congested with mall , no one there will go to USJ19.
Even The Summit fail to attract crowds from Subang since it first open more than 30 years ago.
Also there are plenty of good and cheap foods in SS15 and Taipan , so no crowd goes to USJ19 for food.
Subang Jaya is Matured not "OLD". Old will be PJ side around 60-80 years now
i still remembered when they first open there was lots of tech shop..never set my foot in their prime. i came first time in mid 2010s?? couldnt remember because i wanted to buy cheap earphones and somethingelse, this is the closest tech mall in Puchong but it was dead..only 1-2 phone shops opened and there was lelong sale but i dont remember what it is. but yeah this mall and one city is dead mall already. at least main place is still bustling the last time i went there ( 1 year ago). the way i see it nowadays and few years back developer really love to do bottom mall and then apartment/condo on upper part and mostly the mall is dead.
I remembered too, back then I thought this mall will be the go to IT mall for Subang residents
Came from your bmw channel, loving this new dead mall series
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I drove past it more than 10 times more than 15 years ago.
If I remember correctly , during its construction it were abandon for at least 3 years , possibly the condo sale were bad and no cash flow to continue
Nice video remind me back den of these mall when i was working at these mall when i was 20
i wonder if can review klang parade or shaw centerpoint
Yes, I will definitely put those malls into my to do list. Thanks for the suggestions
I stayed in USJ one for awhile when I was studying in Taylors, I would usually go to Da men or Giant hypermarket. I didn't even know this existed haha
The TF grocery mainly serving the service apartment residence
Very strange for a busy city such as Subang Jaya. I never expected this. Please continue to show this type of video.
Thank you, I will
Strange? Not at all. There are too many "Mall" around Subang Jaya
(Excluding Puchong which is under MBSJ as well)
Sunway Pyramid
Sunway Geo
Empire Subang
Subang Parade
Aeon mall
SS15 court yard
USJ summit
Damen
Giant USJ
Mydin
My place
One City
USJ19 Mall (in video)
Etc... It just way too much
Wow. BTW I have migrated away from Malaysia over 18 years ago. I have been watching some RUclips videos only about those popular tourist places where there are too many tourist and have not seen the slower side or real places that is like this. That is why I am surprised. Now I can see the true picture.
@@candid244 Even then, it's too strange for a neighborhood mall (with even a cluster school next to it), because there are no alternative malls within the walkable radius except for Main Place, which is more thriving eventho much farther than the nearest LRT station.
If you ask me, I think the neigbourhood commercial area itself is the problem, compared to Main Place with good restaurants and bars surrounding the mall, Palazio 19 is surrounded by car workshops and factories, attracting a bit more immigrant workers, that itself makes it undesirable for the M40 and T20 of subangites to walk to and around it.
Used to think this is the subang jaya version of lowyat because of the naming of the mall "Digital Mall" years ago. Bought my pc stuff back when there are still computer shops there.
Yes, at the early stage this mall were given the "Digital Mall" tag
when Mr. DIY on 2nd flr went down, you know its bad
Yes, indeed
The weird part about Subang n USJ is despite it's a mature township, only two malls made relevant. Main place and Empire. The rest just cant stand up well or being run down, just like this usj 19 city mall.
That's correct, even the most recent addition Dar-Men is struggling
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Ah you betul betul came from my recommendation.
So much to comment so much to say but didn’t want to say much because I am one of them who purchase this during launch I think 1998 or 2000
And I am staying above.
Didnt want to get into too much politics at where I stay.
I think JBR Bundle use to me the main attraction. People came from far away too.
You brought the place?
@@chestercheng.realestatehonestly this is a good series... but do take a little more care abt your English spelling..( I let the pronunciation alone as pple do have accent).. the mistake is bought the property instead of brought the place.. unless u intended some sort of pun.. nb another glaring mistake earlier is buy tank.. someone pulling your leg by commenting buy aeroplane!
There's another trip of 3 guys(samseng looking funny guys) speaking in Mandarin+ dialects with lots of vulgar words thrown in .. exploring run down, business down ghosts malls.. they're hilarious but yours is more serious and business like! 👍😊
Should emulate 1 Utama for built since 30 years ago in 1995 plus extension. Full control by.ownervand Management.
Most times the developer are cash strap, that's why they sold out all those retails lots
Mainly this service apartment was overhyped back in the late 90s. The selling point of this was that there would be a mall on the ground floor making it a good ROI or so it seems until the financial crisis back in 1997 hit which caused a long delay after the next developer took over and by the time it was ready the hyped literally died and was just not able to pick itself up because many did not stay there and was rented out to foreigners making the condo not an upper classes standard hence not many shoppers.
Yes, I was informed that the upper apartments have many foreigners renting
@@chestercheng.realestate I am sure you would know since you are in this industry. Have you tried using the lift to the service apartment. Not in a very good condition and it is slow. It can stop and the door would not open. Parking is not even available for the residence. Not even one.
do jaya one pls
Will be releasing the video soon
yes...its gloomy like a zombie scene...n i go there often just for Ninso(quick grab n go)...it was an abandoned project before,just like MainPlace...used to be digital mall(like LowYat) also nvr worked out...poor mgmt!
Management not in the picture as each retail lots are managed separately by each individual owners
@@chestercheng.realestate yes...exactly,no mgmt tats why poorly managed....its unmanaged!
GEM Banana Leaf contract was terminated by Palazzo management for reasons known to themselves. It appears the Mall management isn't really interested in promoting the Mall. Also there was bitter infighting between two parties.
Thanks for the sharing
there are just too many malls , not much promotions from the mall owners
True. Worse still most of the shops in there are almost the same.
There are more malls coming in the near future
hahaa...due to the vibe you are feeling, it should be renamed to Palazzombie then..
Halloween time too... LOL
This mall not bad tho...
Can you kindly venture out of your zone and review the Pavilion Mall at Pusat Bandar Damansara? I think it is a failure but many people would like to hear your comments. Thanks.
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I've been there twice a few months ago. I doubt they'll let it fail because it's integrated with the Office block / Residence Tower. Yes it's quiet but it's rather posh and Tesla is there.
@@klloo5689 I work at the area, the mall is very lunch office hours/ crowd oriented, once dinner time and weekend comes foot traffic very minimal
Many towers above still under construction so just give it time. Crowds from Hong Leong HQ and Menara Millenium will sustain it for now. One thing lacking about this mall is no food court for lower income earners. Even Pavi BB and BJ have food courts.
i hate this mall because it made a mess of the road traffic there.. Furthermore there is another dead mall next door(cant remember the name now)..
Its too many mall and some of tne mall was not strategic and not consumer friendly
lol never heard of this mall
Not surprising, as very little marketing was done to promote this mall.. LOL
feels like Gmod
Feng Shui is real
This is probably the worst mall 🏬 I have ever seen 👀! What went wrong 😑?
Politics.
I supposed many reasons contributed to this mall's deterioration
Goes down which sewer boss? I also not sure how is their food , taste boss
I've not tried the restaurant food there even though I stayed very close by
Who's doing the marketing & promotion of this place? I have never heard of this mall even though I frequent Subang Jaya for F&B all the time. Most of the malls die (3 Damansara, Evolve, Citta, Glo Damansara, SS2 Mall, Empire City, Main Place), almost died but holding on (Starling Mall, Paradigm, Atria, Jaya Shopping Centre, Jaya 33, Centrepoint, Da Men) and totally ancient/need refurbishment (Subang Parade, Amcorp Mall) are in the same catchment areas with the same chain shops and same chain F&B. Again, who's doing the marketing? What's so wonderful about your mall that makes me want to go there and spend my time and money? What is the concept of your mall? Who's your anchor tenant?
Plazzo 19 Mall, even to many Subang residents they won't know it existed. Mainly due to the name change in such a short time. Some of those malls you mention are in my list to visit malls. Many of them I have not visited more than twice in my lifetime
Main Place is not dead. It's better than the other malls you just mentioned.
As a middle-aged shopper, I just want to shop at familiar outlets like NSK, Lotus, M&S, Uniqlo, Zara, Padini, Sketchers, H&M, Madam Kwan, Caring & Big Pharmacies and the like - middle class jaunts. Maybe this mall caters to the young with the games outlet and very innovative shops. Actually it's the elderly who have the money, not so much young people with dependents
Traffic flow not convenient
In a way, you are right
true also, only 1 way out
Same same summit....only worse 😅
I'll get to Summit soon.. LOL
The interior design is quite old
Super old like in the 1980s
dead mall… we can see only Suria KLCC, Mall at BB, Mid Valley, The Exchange, Sogo KL, Sunway Piramid, Nu Sentral can survive…
most important things, this mall got tourist attraction… touristy place made a place survive..
the others im really can feels sympathy..
wtf... subang now days.. too many mall already.... subang prade, ... Aeon (beside subang prade) .... Empire .... summit.... daman... Main place... One City..... Sunway pyramid......
Yes, mall haven. LOL
Lack of access to business info to world
They downgraded to immigrants shopping centre, much to what happened to South City Plaza
I'll make time to check this mall too