Good range and dmg being able to cancel it just makes it a bit more fair, grand fissure is easy to land if the enemy is in close - mid range, twin fangs deals tons of dmg in close range and earth splitting strike is also easy to hit from close to mid range, last breath needed something like this to make his ult fair
It’s a long ranged move that bypasses block and deals 85%. Tatsumaki’s 85% cutscene move barely has any range, and is blockable. The cancellable is 100% balanced
I feel like being able to evasive out of the bullet barrage is crazy, It makes sense to be able to evasive out of it after they finish the kicks and stuff, but in the middle of it is insane.
Fr this just made suiryu fair, his bullet barrage follow up being completely unscappable was just broken since u could do an auto combo with either 3 or 4, and his complete and reworked ult is just amazing so rn (for me) he is the best character in the game even beating kj in terms of fun
@@rachm8072 2 AND 3 move is counterable, 1 move is can be cancelled, 4th move is extremely easy to cancel, you got over than enough time to do so, and if you're too far away to cancel the other guy wont just be able to reach you, cuz the range of it is not that far, easy to run away from too, also both the 3rd and 4th moves dont slow down the ult bar, idk if it's a bug or not, but for example with the 4th move, if you use it at the start and hit it, you will waste half of your ultimate bar, it's just not worth it
Its not fair, he got the worst base moves in game because of that nerf (he did before too, they're just now EVEN WORSE), and his ult sucks because for some reason there is no slowing the ult bar during his 3 and 4 move, 4 is easily cancellable, and both 3 and 2 move are counterable, the worst ult in game too, worse even than garou's ult
@@Nonsense6501That's the point genius, tatsumakis last move is blockable doing 85 to 90% dmg and her ult moves are good. He's balanced, you guys just want a op character
Here's a weakness to the characters to beat every character in TSB! Saitama: Every move has no i-frames, Saitama only has a 1 use ult that mostly one shots except Serious punch, but you'll spot this by ult avatars and faster speed, and you can get out of uppercut without evasive which idk why -_- Garou:This guy has I-Frames for every move, but not as much true combos like Saitama... So just waste their evasive or use Saitama to deal an easy 60% damage. But If you can, try to use your evasive efficiently, by using it to counter attack and punish the Garou user. I mostly do it when the Garou wastes evasive too so that I land easy combos. Genos:If they're spamming, welp, try to counter and waste their evasive. Same thing for the skill ones since also all of Genos' moves don't have I-Frames and you can even cancel Jetdive with low ping. Sonic:75% of Sonic's moves are blockable, so it's just try to predict every Sonic move, and try to waste evasive efficiently At. Samurai:Yeah this guy is just easy to counter and beat for me. Moves are very predictable to me. Idk it's a you problem if you can't easily predict the moves. Tatsumaki: 75% of Tatsumaki's moves are also blockable like Sonic. So same thing Suiryu:Since there aren't really efficient true combos anymore ever since the nerf, try to fight it normally like Saitama and Garou Child Emporer: You can block and punish Trinity Tear very badly, you just tap block and you're gonna be cooking after 2 seconds.
It makes sense, since atomic samurai's second move is escapable. Though this nerf opens up for ragdoll cancel bait potential. You can use vanishing kick like saitama's shove tech, m1ing right after and stopping their rollback, then side dash up and use bullet barrage to bait ragdoll cancel, and then use the 2nd part of vanishing kick 👍
@@RAM-42069Using a combo and instantly using it with NO m1s and it’s your ONLY combo is spamming, it’s literally 1 4 3 no m1s and they use that combo with m1s to get 70% unescapable combos.
3:39 there are 2 rsns why theres a dragon. First, in an other comment that said suiryu used a dragon character when he was fighting garou, second which is a more probable rsn is bc the character is semi-based on rock lee and might guy from naruto (thye have some moves from them) and might guy uses a dragon. Also in last breath move, it uses a red dragon which might guy also used. The design of the dragon is also extremely similar to thay of the naruto one. Also the name of the character is martial artist, and rock lee and might guy are martial artists. Sorry for the yap
Expect that bullet barrage DOESN'T BLOCKBREAK!! It makes sense that you can evasive out of Atomic Samurai's, since it blockbreaks and grabs multiple people, but bullet barrage doesn't blockbreak.
What I think is: you shouldn't be able to evasive form bullet barrage itself, but when he kicks ya down you should be able to evasive. Like in the roll thing, when you're in the ground and when in the air, not when you're grabbed.
hes not nerfed bro its just that they can evasive out of the move, if they wasted evasive they'll get comboed, that is just a simple nerf bro, no body even beats this character bro i used it in so many 1v1s and still cooked, lets not talk abt the third moves finisher and the passive its just so OP (you can escape literally any ult by using fourth move finisher) cuz the finisher makes you fly to the sky, THAT CAN MAKE YOU SURVIVE TABLE OR SERIOUS PUNCH AS WELL, and he has a OP combo that one shots if people waste evasive,
Ik a true combo, just do what you did in the start and instead of letting the bullet barrage finish, use the second part of vanishing kick shortly before bullet barrage's grab start. What will happen is that they will still have the stun of the bullet barrage kicks (for some reason) and the vanishing kick's second part will be unpunishable. Just get the timing.
If you couldn’t evasive out of the first move, he would be too OP for anyone to fight against him, especially since all good combos with suiryu use that first move, so being able to evasive out of it makes you able to stop the combos and actually be able to fight back
idk why but i think im the only one who sees the nerf as a upgrade for the character, most of the ppl use their ragdoll on that move and then it's easy to counter them with a full combo
In the anime Suyuri has a counter move but hasn't used it on Saitama he dodge away. BUT the position and pose Suyuri was standing in his counter move in the anime highly recognizes as Vegito's Savage Counter move in the video game Dbz shin Budokai 2 (Savage counter move is mostly kicking )
atoms cleave is the same, not to mention bullet barrage is unpunishable. simply a free evasive in my eyes, if you really want a true combo with a cqc character then use garou. garou has true downslam, lee's twisted (true on 130 ping +) You can also true downslam on 48+ ping i tried it before.
The only thing that i hate on this character that, everyone is just making it like genos and sonic combined. I've seen my suiryu users running away and spamming for their dear lives. And then activates the ultimate after spamming for 7 minutes.
I be getting kill streaks with that character base and destroying teamers with it I'd say it's still pretty good it does suck that you can evasive though
Ye I was wondering that when it came out, when I was fighting someone I saw the ragdoll cancelled outta the move that makes Suiryu have the best true combo’s, I was like “WHAT” so ye it’s still good u just gotta be wise, anyway enough yapping.
because the 50% combo is like insane, imagine you can get hit by a 50% unescapable combo that will always land. That’s just unfair, unlike the 75% combos for saitama (and 90) are ping based unlike the 50% unescapable combo that will always land.
The nerf is probably needed. Because if it didnt get nerfed suiryu maybe the only character where you can use all the moves with the target having ragdoll cancel.
@@airoadul I think bullet barrage itself should't be evasiveable, but when he kicks you back to the ground it should. Like in the rolling animation, when he ungrabs you.
@@kilashopa4415 saitama players can die too + the ult can be baited easily if you're skilled enough + you can evasive out of the saitama uppercut move without wasting evasive ( IEvery made a vid bout that)
And normal punch no longer does the most damage in the game. Plasma cannon when fully charged does the most damage and it's probably the most broken char
So what? You said before that combo of 1 + 4 was op. Suiryu base move is still one of the best, all u gotta do is bait their ragdoll. Suiryu nerf is ok and made him less overpowered. Now he is around A tier with metalbat, samurai and Garou
Tsb devs nerf character ONLY WHEN IT BECOMES FREE Remeber tatsumaki 1 that doesnt work after person is about to get up but it worked before it was free Suiry 1 character was good until it became free and they nerfed first skill to 0 usage Metal bat its ult was so good when it was in early acces but after it became free they increased startup of 1 and removed i frames and increased startup of 2 and no i frames Tsbg is kinda greedy about early acces
First 10 second of the video and theres already some backshot and yk its a fire video(also my opinion is this is a buff you cannot get punished alomst for this and if they dont evasive they are getting hit with 3 dont use 4 its punisable)
Can’t follow up a “true” combo with any character. 99% of the games’ attacks are evasivable. An actual true combo would be stunning them enough to to not just walk out of it. Evasive is a given 💀
And one single buff can make the charcter hated...
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Btw can anyone chain true or real?
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The last ult move for suryu is buns. THERE IS NO HYPER ARMOR for that
the old one looked hella good (the one that got leaked sadly which made it not getting added to the game)
@4karm just the s were better actually, it's a matter of opinion but abt the whole concept of the move I prefer what we got
Good range and dmg being able to cancel it just makes it a bit more fair, grand fissure is easy to land if the enemy is in close - mid range, twin fangs deals tons of dmg in close range and earth splitting strike is also easy to hit from close to mid range, last breath needed something like this to make his ult fair
ok just dont get hurt 😂
It’s a long ranged move that bypasses block and deals 85%. Tatsumaki’s 85% cutscene move barely has any range, and is blockable. The cancellable is 100% balanced
I'm typing this before he says what nerfed Suriyu and I predict it's going to be about his first base move being evasivable.
You were right, just needed to be specific when you can evasive off 1 MILISECOND after the final kick on bullet barrage (his 1st skill)
That's what i thought bro
I feel like being able to evasive out of the bullet barrage is crazy, It makes sense to be able to evasive out of it after they finish the kicks and stuff, but in the middle of it is insane.
I literally hoped this was made before the character was even free bruh- (I mained the character 😭)
YAY NO MORE ANNOYING 1+4 COMBOS
3:39 in an episode Suiryu used a dragon character when he was fighting Garou (who picked a wolf) in a game tournament so i think thats why ya
its in the manga
its an ova
Dude what @@SonicSynapseX
@Mumsgoodboy2 yes correct
@@SkeletonRoastAi is an ova of OPM that genos and Saitama went to a ver battle tournament and they saw suiryu VS garou, search on YT buddy
tbh they need to change the passive, also they need to add a purple trail to front dash.
True combo:
Third move + fourth move + second move + first move.
Y'all make up the rest, I'm not an expert lol
Every character has gone through balance changes after being released as free. Such as tatsumaki's first base move
And what was the balancing on it?
@@Nonsense6501 either making it blockable or if you have ragdoll cancel you can escape it idk
@@januszgrajko7642 oh yeah i forgot
Fr this just made suiryu fair, his bullet barrage follow up being completely unscappable was just broken since u could do an auto combo with either 3 or 4, and his complete and reworked ult is just amazing so rn (for me) he is the best character in the game even beating kj in terms of fun
@@torrakayo789 fr
The ult is one of the best in the game imo, good at every range, and has an i frame move too lol
@@rachm8072 2 AND 3 move is counterable, 1 move is can be cancelled, 4th move is extremely easy to cancel, you got over than enough time to do so, and if you're too far away to cancel the other guy wont just be able to reach you, cuz the range of it is not that far, easy to run away from too, also both the 3rd and 4th moves dont slow down the ult bar, idk if it's a bug or not, but for example with the 4th move, if you use it at the start and hit it, you will waste half of your ultimate bar, it's just not worth it
Its not fair, he got the worst base moves in game because of that nerf (he did before too, they're just now EVEN WORSE), and his ult sucks because for some reason there is no slowing the ult bar during his 3 and 4 move, 4 is easily cancellable, and both 3 and 2 move are counterable, the worst ult in game too, worse even than garou's ult
@@Nonsense6501That's the point genius, tatsumakis last move is blockable doing 85 to 90% dmg and her ult moves are good. He's balanced, you guys just want a op character
Even the ult has a con tbh: the last breath move can be canceled in the heart animation thingy
Here's a weakness to the characters to beat every character in TSB!
Saitama: Every move has no i-frames, Saitama only has a 1 use ult that mostly one shots except Serious punch, but you'll spot this by ult avatars and faster speed, and you can get out of uppercut without evasive which idk why -_-
Garou:This guy has I-Frames for every move, but not as much true combos like Saitama... So just waste their evasive or use Saitama to deal an easy 60% damage. But If you can, try to use your evasive efficiently, by using it to counter attack and punish the Garou user. I mostly do it when the Garou wastes evasive too so that I land easy combos.
Genos:If they're spamming, welp, try to counter and waste their evasive. Same thing for the skill ones since also all of Genos' moves don't have I-Frames and you can even cancel Jetdive with low ping.
Sonic:75% of Sonic's moves are blockable, so it's just try to predict every Sonic move, and try to waste evasive efficiently
At. Samurai:Yeah this guy is just easy to counter and beat for me. Moves are very predictable to me. Idk it's a you problem if you can't easily predict the moves.
Tatsumaki: 75% of Tatsumaki's moves are also blockable like Sonic. So same thing
Suiryu:Since there aren't really efficient true combos anymore ever since the nerf, try to fight it normally like Saitama and Garou
Child Emporer: You can block and punish Trinity Tear very badly, you just tap block and you're gonna be cooking after 2 seconds.
Garou actually has a prtty good true combo using the true downslam tech
child emperors plasma cannon is also counterable by garou
2:06 Bro crashed out lmao 🤣
suiryu is actually inspired from not just OPM but combat gods
It makes sense, since atomic samurai's second move is escapable. Though this nerf opens up for ragdoll cancel bait potential. You can use vanishing kick like saitama's shove tech, m1ing right after and stopping their rollback, then side dash up and use bullet barrage to bait ragdoll cancel, and then use the 2nd part of vanishing kick 👍
Kind of glad they nerfed it, it was so annoying that people kept spamming 1, 4, 3, and 2. You can finally escape Bullet Barrage now.
Fr
Doing a combo is NOT spamming bro.
Making the worst character in game worse
@@RAM-42069Using a combo and instantly using it with NO m1s and it’s your ONLY combo is spamming, it’s literally 1 4 3 no m1s and they use that combo with m1s to get 70% unescapable combos.
It's not spamming but it being inescapable was a drag
"It was like rrrrrcutchene"bruh that got me😂😂
3:39 there are 2 rsns why theres a dragon. First, in an other comment that said suiryu used a dragon character when he was fighting garou, second which is a more probable rsn is bc the character is semi-based on rock lee and might guy from naruto (thye have some moves from them) and might guy uses a dragon. Also in last breath move, it uses a red dragon which might guy also used. The design of the dragon is also extremely similar to thay of the naruto one. Also the name of the character is martial artist, and rock lee and might guy are martial artists. Sorry for the yap
The 4th ult move isn’t that bad, u can use the 1st move as a wall to hide your 4th, use it right after that and most of the time you can make it
Is just like atomic samurai's 2nd move, you can evasive out of it. you can waste their evasive and do true combo
3th move too
(You can be punished if the enemy's evasion is straight to hit you)
Expect that bullet barrage DOESN'T BLOCKBREAK!!
It makes sense that you can evasive out of Atomic Samurai's, since it blockbreaks and grabs multiple people, but bullet barrage doesn't blockbreak.
What I think is: you shouldn't be able to evasive form bullet barrage itself, but when he kicks ya down you should be able to evasive. Like in the roll thing, when you're in the ground and when in the air, not when you're grabbed.
@@Vil... Eh, I think it was deserved because Suiryu had one of the easiest true combos and also mostly had no counters.
hes not nerfed bro its just that they can evasive out of the move, if they wasted evasive they'll get comboed, that is just a simple nerf bro, no body even beats this character bro i used it in so many 1v1s and still cooked, lets not talk abt the third moves finisher and the passive its just so OP (you can escape literally any ult by using fourth move finisher) cuz the finisher makes you fly to the sky, THAT CAN MAKE YOU SURVIVE TABLE OR SERIOUS PUNCH AS WELL, and he has a OP combo that one shots if people waste evasive,
I wonder how this statement holds up when you matchup against a genos player fr
Ik a true combo, just do what you did in the start and instead of letting the bullet barrage finish, use the second part of vanishing kick shortly before bullet barrage's grab start. What will happen is that they will still have the stun of the bullet barrage kicks (for some reason) and the vanishing kick's second part will be unpunishable. Just get the timing.
If you couldn’t evasive out of the first move, he would be too OP for anyone to fight against him, especially since all good combos with suiryu use that first move, so being able to evasive out of it makes you able to stop the combos and actually be able to fight back
The cutscenes/finishers take too long too, which are kind of a nerf, and is really annoying especially when theres 3 moves that take so long
bro 1 buff is about to make this character overpowered, it already has an inf combo
btw for the ult in the first clip, just hit the ult user than the ability is cancelled
why does blud need to get violated everytime 0:31 0:31 0:31 0:31 0:31 0:31 0:32 0:32 0:32 0:32 0:32 0:32 0:32 0:33 0:33 0:33
idk why but i think im the only one who sees the nerf as a upgrade for the character, most of the ppl use their ragdoll on that move and then it's easy to counter them with a full combo
Its always every time, in the early access the new character will be always better than when its released
In the anime Suyuri has a counter move but hasn't used it on Saitama he dodge away. BUT the position and pose Suyuri was standing in his counter move in the anime highly recognizes as Vegito's Savage Counter move in the video game Dbz shin Budokai 2
(Savage counter move is mostly kicking )
2:14 last breath can get cancelled by m1s or moves like normal punch hehe
i wonder what happened to that one garo and suiryu special interaction that was posted in sneak peeks
2:16 what was bro countering💀🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻😭😭😭
He didn't counter 🤓
@@Unrealisticle-jc8qq yea clearly if he still got hit.
0:31 bro got violated💀
Suiryu really only has two moves coming from the manga,the first part of vanishing kick and the first part of his first ultimate move
also you can evasive out of bullet barrage and get them with crushing pull
2:15 bro tried to counter Last Breath
the skill 4 ult can be cancel like there was nothing , just use trash can or m1
I’m a little late but if someone DOES evasive out you can cancel bullet barrage with another move
1 simple bug fix (3 m1 tech still being able to be used) could just destroy every true one shot combo. Especially that Saitama Emote Dash combo e
250 views in 2 minutes is crazy
I hate people like you, just stop doing things like this
i agree cus lowk the first move is what made suriyu good
the nerf just makes my gameplay better with suiryu lol. it makes me more sweaty after the nerf
atoms cleave is the same, not to mention bullet barrage is unpunishable.
simply a free evasive in my eyes, if you really want a true combo with a cqc character then use garou.
garou has true downslam, lee's twisted (true on 130 ping +)
You can also true downslam on 48+ ping i tried it before.
if you use vanishing kick, hit it, front dash, 3 m1s, bullet barrage, if they evasive, use the 2nd varient so you dont waste time??
i think since u can evasive out of bullet barrage, i think santino shouldve use it as an extender move, similar to metal bat grand slam
the suiryo its to op and when it free the publix server is chaos by people who want to steal our kill and then they just ult
Ngl the first move should be RGC-able, its wayyy too op, its just balanced fr
I love how this guy just gets angry and just uses a move and later acts like nothing happened.
3:39 the dragon is rock Lee's sensei I think, Floatyzone discussed it in an old vid
no it isnt lol
I don’t really think it’s ruined since that I still use this to follow up combos and it still is fine for me
The only thing that i hate on this character that, everyone is just making it like genos and sonic combined. I've seen my suiryu users running away and spamming for their dear lives. And then activates the ultimate after spamming for 7 minutes.
Santino mixed suiryu with one of the naruto anime's character that is Might Guy (he has the dragon that's why)
After all it's so cool ngl
I be getting kill streaks with that character base and destroying teamers with it I'd say it's still pretty good it does suck that you can evasive though
Like, you can wait to your enemy use ragdoll cancel or you just trick them, And you can do the true combo, but dunno its my opinion
0:31 “AAEAEAEAEAEAEAE” 🗿
Ye I was wondering that when it came out, when I was fighting someone I saw the ragdoll cancelled outta the move that makes Suiryu have the best true combo’s, I was like “WHAT” so ye it’s still good u just gotta be wise, anyway enough yapping.
They still use it to this day they not knowing all the moves are blockable
Fun fact : u can cancel someone last breath power in ult just punch them and the power will be ruined
The last ult move move can be canceled but u got to be quick
Crazy how yall wanted suiryu’s 50% inescapable combo to be nerfed so bad but Saitama still has like two 75% inescapable combos
because the 50% combo is like insane, imagine you can get hit by a 50% unescapable combo that will always land. That’s just unfair, unlike the 75% combos for saitama (and 90) are ping based unlike the 50% unescapable combo that will always land.
It’s actually a good nerf because this forces their ragdoll which is good but if they don’t ragdoll their cooked 💀
he has dragon attacks because one of his famous moves is called “void sky dragon fist”
Last breath can be cancelled if you do like m1 or moves
i usually use bullet barrage to waste their evasive so i can start a combo when i catch em
fr it would make the character harder to use. also suiryu style is void fist (i think i'm not sure)
Void fist
@@NathanNguyen-h6b yeah thanks for reminding me.
1:17 WATEH, SHYEAA🔥🔥🗣️
You van get punched out of the 4th ylt move bro 💀
Also suiryu m1 is now slower😢
1:45 BAAA WATAPAK WAAAAAAAAAAAA
3 words to fix that... "waist his evasive" i noticed that and used it the intended way
The nerf is probably needed. Because if it didnt get nerfed suiryu maybe the only character where you can use all the moves with the target having ragdoll cancel.
With them not being able to escape
@@airoadul I think bullet barrage itself should't be evasiveable, but when he kicks you back to the ground it should. Like in the rolling animation, when he ungrabs you.
This didn't ruin the character, it's just balancing and I found it completely fair, don't cry over trivial things my friend.
Lord heaven gonna say child emperor is ruined after nerfing the most powerful base move which is also a combo extender
"Balancing", then why saitama still the most broken char in game?
@@kilashopa4415 saitama players can die too + the ult can be baited easily if you're skilled enough + you can evasive out of the saitama uppercut move without wasting evasive ( IEvery made a vid bout that)
And normal punch no longer does the most damage in the game. Plasma cannon when fully charged does the most damage and it's probably the most broken char
@@kilashopa4415if u still die to saitama players that’s a you problem lol
So what? You said before that combo of 1 + 4 was op. Suiryu base move is still one of the best, all u gotta do is bait their ragdoll.
Suiryu nerf is ok and made him less overpowered. Now he is around A tier with metalbat, samurai and Garou
i wonder how long is it gonna take lordhaven to figure out you can cancel last breath.
Takes like 4 seconds to activate, doesn't even ragdoll the opponent
still does the same damage as head first💀
This character still strong as hell after this nerf ngl
It’s good too waste there passive first then u can use base move.
Tsb devs nerf character ONLY WHEN IT BECOMES FREE
Remeber tatsumaki 1 that doesnt work after person is about to get up but it worked before it was free
Suiry 1 character was good until it became free and they nerfed first skill to 0 usage
Metal bat its ult was so good when it was in early acces but after it became free they increased startup of 1 and removed i frames and increased startup of 2 and no i frames
Tsbg is kinda greedy about early acces
First 10 second of the video and theres already some backshot and yk its a fire video(also my opinion is this is a buff you cannot get punished alomst for this and if they dont evasive they are getting hit with 3 dont use 4 its punisable)
It's like when bro said Hero Hunter is weak only to start maining it and get good at it soon after
the start up of the 4th move of the ult can be cancelled with just a single punch
U can actually cancel that move with anything
The reason why suiryu has a dragon is I think his name translates into Water-Dragon
"die" sounded so British😂
I saw it coming and at th3 exact same time
2:15 ¨I got this¨ ahh counter
This character has alot of mfking airborn, well i mean the nerf of the 1st skill is fair tho bcz its really annoying if you got into it.
I feel like garou ult is so bad compared to other ults and should prob get buffed or sum
Well,’suiryu’ in japanese actually means ‘water dragon’ so I guess that’s why he has a dragon?(Santino’s still very very creative tho)
Can’t follow up a “true” combo with any character. 99% of the games’ attacks are evasivable. An actual true combo would be stunning them enough to to not just walk out of it. Evasive is a given 💀
Was it just me or is lord heaven sound like fade unchanged long lost brother
the move is blockable now too
Suiryu + Controller player + spam = 💀💀💀💀💀💀
2:15 bro really tried to counter it
"Shutchyo Bitczhazz up!" got me rollin
33 "domain expansion malevolent backshots"ahh
As soon as I clicked this video and saw they were talking abt suiryu I knew it was the bullet barrage
The last move of the ult can be ignored by an m1, like seriously wth bro
I thought the title said "one simp could ruin a character
That's crazy 💀
No I think it’s better because most players always waste there evasive on that move
My simple true combo was 3m1s dash immediately 2nd move m1 side dash 2 m1s fourth move