I just found you out. And in 1 day I've understood years of lessons. You explain them better than most schools do. The teaching skills are important 👌🏽
In Hindi and Bangla, the genetiivi case postpositions works very much like this. The genetiivi form of "Sidney" is "Sidney'r" (in Bangla) or "Sidney'ka" (in Hindi) Sidneyin edessä -> Sidney'r samne Sidneyin takana -> Sidney'r pechhone Sidneyin kanssa -> Sidney'r saathe Sidneyin lelu -> Sidney'r khelna
What helped me to understand why postpositions use genetiivi was to think about it like "The glass is in front of the camera" as "The glass is in the camera's front" so that it's kind of as if the camera possessed its front, so you use genetiivi for the camera (possession) and the inessive case for the front because the glass is inside that front. So kameran edessä = camera's front (that's where the glass is). It's not the most natural way to say it in English but I like to think that it's how the Finnish language interprets the situation! Does that make sense to you guys? I hope I'm understanding it correctly!
It’s awesome that you’re still making videos. I came across your channel maybe six years ago when I began researching Finnish culture. I’m finally learning the language and it’s refreshing to happen upon your videos again. Very cool.
so glad you made this video! On Speakly I was exposed to a few sentences with täytyy and pitää and I didn’t really understand the structure. So glad this cleared things up!
Hi there, I am Suha from India. I have recently moved into Finland & started learning this language. Your videos are so helpful in clearing the small doubts that arise in mind. Also please explain what is the use of partitiivi and perusmuoto in this language. Please explain these as well.
it's truly amazing how those declensions work, sometimes they are the same over the languages, in Latvian with some prepositions genitive can be used, but sometimes dative is used instead. You should cover also geninitive-partitive differences which can easily confuse speakers of non Finno-Ugric languages (me delved into Estonian and Livonian a little) so it is funny to see the differences even there
Kat, thank you soooo muuuch for your work and your videos! I adore watching them! You explain really clearly, and you are such a positive person! Thank you ! :)
Kiitos niin paljion! Could you do a continuation of the Finnish cases? I believe that this would severely help serious Finnish learners because there is very limited information on this specific subject. For example, it is easy to find a simple definition but hard to find examples, suffixes and conjunction tips all in one source. Thank you and have a good day lol
Rakastan sun videoja! Ja pidän että annat puhukielenki formit. Odotan videoja geniitivin pluralia ja partitivin 🙌🙌🙌 You're an amazing teacher. Oot hyvä opettaja!
Thank you for the video. Main main case-related struggles so far are: case government (rektio) and consonant gradations for different word types in different cases,
This is a perfect example of the direction to go in. Cause Duo Lingo just kind of throws the words in without explaining, so this gets people doing something that any amount of making lists wouldn't get to.
Wiktionary in the inflections board shows the accusative case with *nom* and *gen* in the same declension Accusative Nom "talo" gen "talon"... Is this righ?
Please which is correct: 1.Kauppa mainostaa vaatteitaan 2. Kauppa mainostaa vaateitansa And 1. Niina häpeää likaista mekkoaan 2. Niina häpeää likaista mekkoansa Could you please explain the answer? I mean why did you choose the answer?
They are both correct and mean the same: kielikello.fi/taloaan-vai-taloansa/ The first one in your examples is more popular though. There are two “correct” versions since one stems from regional dialect originally, but the link I added explains in quite a lot of detail! :)
Thank you. I'm not sure how much of it soaked in. Where does Minulla and sinulla fit in? Is that different in some way from having something? Maybe that's one of the upcoming topics you mentioned.
minulla and sinulla are adessive forms of the basic forms. They are used to say that you literally have something which is different than when you are indicating possession in other words, who something belongs to.
1) *Minulla on kirja* 'I have a book' 2) *Kirja on minun* 'The book is mine' 3) *Kirja on minulla* 'The book is (temporarily) on my possession' 1 with that word order is spesific basic sentence type called *omistuslause* . By using that I introduce the book in the conversation and tell that it is mine. 2 Now the book is definite, I don't have to introduce it anymore. I say that it is mine using genitive. I can also say *Tämä on minun kirjani* 'This is my book' 3 This is like 2, but I don't own the book. Sentence 3 is an answer to question *Kenellä kirja on?* 'Who has the book? [ *Kenellä on kirja?* means 'Who has a book?' and answer for that is sentence 1. ] I have loaned the book from library or friend, so I keep it now, but it is not mine. This is why we talk about sentence types like in 1, *Minulla on kirja* and *Kirja on minulla* don't have the same meaning. In 3 adessive has more typical local meaning than in 1, in which it expresses 'to have' in omistuslause.
Hey there, thanks for the video.. I'm a Canadian living Finland. I am studying Finnish.. my question is why "mene" and not "menet" Adam Lambertinkanssa kauppaan. I understand Mennä is a verb type 3 and the kit is applied and all that. What is the difference between me e and menet? Thank you in advance.
@@The990990990 "mene" is the command form of "mennä" so that means I am telling you to go to the store "GO to the store" (as in a command/telling you to do something). "menet" is more neutral and would be more like "you go to the store"
kiitos kat ! your video is really awesome !! when you talk about Adam Lambert, it's a little borderline confusing on whether i can re-structure the sentence. esimerkiksi: "mene adam lambertin kanssa kauppaan" can it also written as "mene kanssa adam lambertin kauppaan" ? i mean is it okay to directly translate from english to finnish ?
Oh! The "kauppaan" word is in illatiivi case form (so not in genetiivi). The illatiivi ending is -an for the word "kauppa". (yes confusing I know..!!) Illatiivi answers the questions "mihin" so where. So the sentence: I'm going to the store is using the illatiivi case. Kirja isn't answering the question "mihin" so don't need a case :)
@@KatChatsFinnish thank you for clearing that up. I looked into it afterwards and remembered that i had seen that case for into like taloon going into the house and then it made sense. It's difficult to remember all those cases.
Yes! I was there for 5 weeks during the fall and lived in Edinburgh for my undergrad! :D I LOVE Scotland haha! Good luck with your move to Finland soon, hope everything goes well :)
@@KatChatsFinnish - Excellent! What did you study? Today I used “Kantaa kortensa kekoon” for the first time! 😂 My Wife who is Finnish replied with “How do you know that?!”
10.0 minun mielestäni="in my opinion" seems to be quite a common expression, so we get 'niiden mielestä kukaan muu ei aherra', for example. I heard that the use of 'kanssa' has declined because it became overused in speech and regarded as a cliché.
That is cool. In English I thought it is mostly called possessive or genitive, sometimes. In Japanese you do の (no) and in general grammar is surprisingly similar to Finnish. And you bringing up puhekieli in a written form is cool. My Finnish father used to resort to physical violence to discourage me from using puhekieli while talking to my friends in Stadi (Helsinki). I ended up in California as a result. For seven years I had a girlfriend in Helsinki where I spent May - September each year, she was here two months out of the year on average. I made a point of emailing her in puhekieli. That was well received. Where do you think that is going to go? In Norway they have Bokmål (written Danish essentially) and Newnorsk. That doesn't seem to be going anywhere. And you speak perfect American English and Finnish, I have an accent in both.
Puhekieli is still very common here, you will hear it everyday when you go out and about. I don't think it will change anytime soon. I have actually never heard of anyone discouraging it's use unless it's in the context of written reports for school (in which case you had to use kirjakieli). I grew up bilingual so I have been using both languages since I was born :)
As a native English speaker, I'm a bit puzzled by something you said. For me, "must" and "have to" mean exactly the same thing. I don't understand what the difference is that you were driving at.
The difference in English is the infinitive: to have vs the imperative: must + verb. So like: if you want to have breakfast, you must go to the table. It's a bit different to reverse them because "You must have breakfast so then you have to wind up at the table." Gets the imperative and infinitive mixed up.
Me - Marc I have a motorbike Tämä on Marcin moottoripyörä (This is Marc's motorbike) Marc ei ole ajanut moottoripyörällään pitkään aikaan (Marc hasn't ridden his motorcycle for a long time) Ehkä on aika ajaa sillä taas... (Maybe it's time to ride it again...) I used Google translate so don't be surprised if there is a lot of wrong with this heh
07.11.2024 Terkut Puolasta Miksi tämä lause on genetiivissa: Viikkosi alkaa paremmin hyvän musiikkin tahdissa. Paljon kiitoksia vastauksesta. Mitä on tärkeää genetiivissä. Genetiivi tulee/sijaitsee suomessa ennen toista sanaa päinvastoin kuin puolassa. Esimerkiksi : talon Pihalla on koira puolaksi on pihalla talon on koira.
Thank you so much once again for your generous support towards my channel. I truly appreciate your kindness and I hope you will continue to enjoy my videos in the future too. Have a lovely day, kiitos paljon! :)
I just found you out. And in 1 day I've understood years of lessons. You explain them better than most schools do. The teaching skills are important 👌🏽
Wow I’m so glad! Kiitos!
In Hindi and Bangla, the genetiivi case postpositions works very much like this.
The genetiivi form of "Sidney" is "Sidney'r" (in Bangla) or "Sidney'ka" (in Hindi)
Sidneyin edessä -> Sidney'r samne
Sidneyin takana -> Sidney'r pechhone
Sidneyin kanssa -> Sidney'r saathe
Sidneyin lelu -> Sidney'r khelna
What helped me to understand why postpositions use genetiivi was to think about it like "The glass is in front of the camera" as "The glass is in the camera's front" so that it's kind of as if the camera possessed its front, so you use genetiivi for the camera (possession) and the inessive case for the front because the glass is inside that front. So kameran edessä = camera's front (that's where the glass is).
It's not the most natural way to say it in English but I like to think that it's how the Finnish language interprets the situation! Does that make sense to you guys? I hope I'm understanding it correctly!
Thank you!! I always need to think similar way, to understand why they use this form. :)
It’s awesome that you’re still making videos. I came across your channel maybe six years ago when I began researching Finnish culture. I’m finally learning the language and it’s refreshing to happen upon your videos again. Very cool.
Wow that's crazy! Yep, here I am still hahah xD
your tip for remembering case endings is actually genius!! kiitos paljon!
I’m glad it’s helpful!!
Kiitos Kat! Your videos are big help for me. I'm learning Finnish language now. I'm going through all your videos. Hyvää päivää!moi moi.
Kiitos paljon! I'm happy to hear that :D
so glad you made this video! On Speakly I was exposed to a few sentences with täytyy and pitää and I didn’t really understand the structure. So glad this cleared things up!
Oh I'm glad to hear that! :D
Hi there, I am Suha from India. I have recently moved into Finland & started learning this language. Your videos are so helpful in clearing the small doubts that arise in mind. Also please explain what is the use of partitiivi and perusmuoto in this language. Please explain these as well.
it's truly amazing how those declensions work, sometimes they are the same over the languages, in Latvian with some prepositions genitive can be used, but sometimes dative is used instead. You should cover also geninitive-partitive differences which can easily confuse speakers of non Finno-Ugric languages (me delved into Estonian and Livonian a little) so it is funny to see the differences even there
Yes! I plan to cover partitive after finishing the genetiivi! :)
Kat, thank you soooo muuuch for your work and your videos! I adore watching them! You explain really clearly, and you are such a positive person! Thank you ! :)
Wow thank you for such a kind comment. Kiitos todella paljon and I'm glad this video was helpful!
Kiitos niin paljion!
Could you do a continuation of the Finnish cases? I believe that this would severely help serious Finnish learners because there is very limited information on this specific subject. For example, it is easy to find a simple definition but hard to find examples, suffixes and conjunction tips all in one source.
Thank you and have a good day lol
I loved it. So simple if compared to russian language.
Rakastan sun videoja! Ja pidän että annat puhukielenki formit. Odotan videoja geniitivin pluralia ja partitivin 🙌🙌🙌 You're an amazing teacher. Oot hyvä opettaja!
Kiitos paljon! :)
Thank you for the video. Main main case-related struggles so far are: case government (rektio) and consonant gradations for different word types in different cases,
Please Never stop doing this Kind of Videos cause you explain it so well!!!
Oh that's so kind of you to say. Kiitos!
@@KatChatsFinnish 💖💖💖💖💖💖
hi kat, you really help a lot to us non-finnish speakers! i hope you can make allativi case video
kittos paljon kat💐
Kiitos :)
Thanks!
Thank you so much for your generous support for my channel, it is greatly appreciated ^-^
This is a perfect example of the direction to go in. Cause Duo Lingo just kind of throws the words in without explaining, so this gets people doing something that any amount of making lists wouldn't get to.
Oh I'm really glad you think so, thank you so much!
Thanks for the video Kat. The lesson in this video was very useful to me. Thanks again.
Glad it was helpful! :D
I received the postcard today. It was wonderful. Thanks!!
Wow, I'm glad it's arrived so quickly! You are welcome and thanks for participating in the raffle! :)
Excellent truly helpful 😊👍
Now got clarity about genetiivi case .
Thank you so much!
Very clear and simple. Great teaching. Thanks
Thank you so much! Kiitos!
Wiktionary in the inflections board shows the accusative case with *nom* and *gen* in the same declension Accusative Nom "talo" gen "talon"... Is this righ?
Kiitos paljon! May I ask if you did continue this Genetiivin theme? I can't find any other videos about it.
This was a great lesson! Where are the followup videos on genetiivi?
Please which is correct: 1.Kauppa mainostaa vaatteitaan
2. Kauppa mainostaa vaateitansa
And
1. Niina häpeää likaista mekkoaan
2. Niina häpeää likaista mekkoansa
Could you please explain the answer? I mean why did you choose the answer?
They are both correct and mean the same: kielikello.fi/taloaan-vai-taloansa/
The first one in your examples is more popular though. There are two “correct” versions since one stems from regional dialect originally, but the link I added explains in quite a lot of detail! :)
I love your teaching skill… 😍😍😍
Thank you! 😃
Do they use the accusative case like in German?
Thank you. I'm not sure how much of it soaked in. Where does Minulla and sinulla fit in? Is that different in some way from having something? Maybe that's one of the upcoming topics you mentioned.
Hahaha well hopefully a little :)
minulla and sinulla are adessive forms of the basic forms. They are used to say that you literally have something which is different than when you are indicating possession in other words, who something belongs to.
@@kuningas-l1b Thank you for that explanation.
1) *Minulla on kirja* 'I have a book'
2) *Kirja on minun* 'The book is mine'
3) *Kirja on minulla* 'The book is (temporarily) on my possession'
1 with that word order is spesific basic sentence type called *omistuslause* . By using that I introduce the book in the conversation and tell that it is mine.
2 Now the book is definite, I don't have to introduce it anymore. I say that it is mine using genitive. I can also say *Tämä on minun kirjani* 'This is my book'
3 This is like 2, but I don't own the book. Sentence 3 is an answer to question *Kenellä kirja on?* 'Who has the book? [ *Kenellä on kirja?* means 'Who has a book?' and answer for that is sentence 1. ] I have loaned the book from library or friend, so I keep it now, but it is not mine. This is why we talk about sentence types like in 1, *Minulla on kirja* and *Kirja on minulla* don't have the same meaning. In 3 adessive has more typical local meaning than in 1, in which it expresses 'to have' in omistuslause.
Would you use the genitive for the dog's bone (the bone belongs to the dog) and the dog's bone (one of the bones in his body)?
Yeah both would be “koiran luu”
Gracias a la persona que agregó los subtítulos en español😎✌️
Why is there Double p in Kauppan? In Mene Adamin kanssa kauppaan.
I like your video, so can you do about illatiivi ?
Looking forward for partitiivi case from you.
I’m scared to make it xD
How about JANETH maam..how to put an ending ?😊
11:28 Minun pitää lukea kirja tai minä pidän lukea kirja...now I'm bit confused over here 🤔
confused for what? Minun pitää lukea kirja - I have to read a book.
minä pidän lukea kirja - I like to read a book
@Daniel Kelly thanks, got it...its all getting mixed up in my head...minun pitää harjoitella lisää ☺️☺️
@@kuningas-l1b Actually "minä pidän lukea kirja" means nothing. It should be, e.g., "Minä pidän kirjan lukemisesta." or "Luen mielelläni kirjaa" or...
Hey there, thanks for the video.. I'm a Canadian living Finland. I am studying Finnish.. my question is why "mene" and not "menet" Adam Lambertinkanssa kauppaan. I understand Mennä is a verb type 3 and the kit is applied and all that. What is the difference between me e and menet? Thank you in advance.
KPT*
@@The990990990 "mene" is the command form of "mennä" so that means I am telling you to go to the store "GO to the store" (as in a command/telling you to do something). "menet" is more neutral and would be more like "you go to the store"
Hope I understood the question!
Aka "imperatiivi" something I don't know yet lol..
I watch your every video ... please let me clear what is the difference between partitive or genetiivi
kiitos kat ! your video is really awesome !! when you talk about Adam Lambert, it's a little borderline confusing on whether i can re-structure the sentence.
esimerkiksi:
"mene adam lambertin kanssa kauppaan" can it also written as "mene kanssa adam lambertin kauppaan" ?
i mean is it okay to directly translate from english to finnish ?
You would always put "kanssa" after who you are doing something with :) Sorry it was a bit confusing!
Kiitos paljon ystäväni !
Kiitos!
I will absolutely only remember niallin kenkä, liamin paita and zaynin tukka - One Direction is helping me learn finnish cases i love it
Yaaay!! I love that too xD
Awesome! Kiitos opettaja. One question. When you say "minun pitää lukea kirja", why don't you say kirjan just like you did with kauppan?
Oh! The "kauppaan" word is in illatiivi case form (so not in genetiivi). The illatiivi ending is -an for the word "kauppa". (yes confusing I know..!!) Illatiivi answers the questions "mihin" so where. So the sentence: I'm going to the store is using the illatiivi case. Kirja isn't answering the question "mihin" so don't need a case :)
@@KatChatsFinnish thank you for clearing that up. I looked into it afterwards and remembered that i had seen that case for into like taloon going into the house and then it made sense. It's difficult to remember all those cases.
Kiitos paljon..sinä olet kiva 😊☺🌺
Mukava kuulla - kiitos paljon!
Hey! Your diary says ‘Beautiful Scotland’! Were you there recently?
I live in Aberdeen Scotland, I’m moving to Finland soon!
💙❄️🏴🔜🇫🇮❄️🤍
Yes! I was there for 5 weeks during the fall and lived in Edinburgh for my undergrad! :D I LOVE Scotland haha! Good luck with your move to Finland soon, hope everything goes well :)
@@KatChatsFinnish - Excellent! What did you study?
Today I used “Kantaa kortensa kekoon” for the first time! 😂 My Wife who is Finnish replied with “How do you know that?!”
10+. Have you already taught compounds?
Terve, Kat! Olen aina kiitollinen videoistasi. Andrea in Atlanta, Georgia
Kiitos!
If I'm not wrong you used the -N at words ending on an A,E,U,O,I,Y and the -in at the other endings, right? :)
In general yes
Thank you!
kiitos opettaja olet hyvaa opettaja
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10.0 minun mielestäni="in my opinion" seems to be quite a common expression, so we get 'niiden mielestä kukaan muu ei aherra', for example. I heard that the use of 'kanssa' has declined because it became overused in speech and regarded as a cliché.
Hmm, I don't think I've heard about that myself, but maybe in some areas this could be true
That is cool. In English I thought it is mostly called possessive or genitive, sometimes. In Japanese you do の (no) and in general grammar is surprisingly similar to Finnish. And you bringing up puhekieli in a written form is cool. My Finnish father used to resort to physical violence to discourage me from using puhekieli while talking to my friends in Stadi (Helsinki). I ended up in California as a result. For seven years I had a girlfriend in Helsinki where I spent May - September each year, she was here two months out of the year on average. I made a point of emailing her in puhekieli. That was well received. Where do you think that is going to go? In Norway they have Bokmål (written Danish essentially) and Newnorsk. That doesn't seem to be going anywhere. And you speak perfect American English and Finnish, I have an accent in both.
Puhekieli is still very common here, you will hear it everyday when you go out and about. I don't think it will change anytime soon. I have actually never heard of anyone discouraging it's use unless it's in the context of written reports for school (in which case you had to use kirjakieli). I grew up bilingual so I have been using both languages since I was born :)
Thank you for this vedio. I get about Genetiivi now. 😀
Wonderful!
Kiitos
But shouldn't it actually be "minun kanssani", "sinun kanssasi" etc?
Sinä olet tosi hyvää opettaja
Moi ja kiitos 🌹🙂
Kiitos paljon
Kiitos!
Very nice
Erinomainen Katja! Se on hauska kuulla irlantilaisia nimiä genetiivissä!
Hahaha niinpä xD
Divisioonan kausi oli suomalainen näyttelijä ja
As a native English speaker, I'm a bit puzzled by something you said. For me, "must" and "have to" mean exactly the same thing. I don't understand what the difference is that you were driving at.
The meaning is slightly different.
For me it feels the same too, but when I was reading about it online it seems that must has a slightly stronger meaning than have to
'My car is getting old. I have to get a new one.' 'My car has broken down. I must get it fixed.'
@@Poliss95 Nope--I could reverse your examples with no change in meaning.
The difference in English is the infinitive: to have vs the imperative: must + verb. So like: if you want to have breakfast, you must go to the table. It's a bit different to reverse them because "You must have breakfast so then you have to wind up at the table." Gets the imperative and infinitive mixed up.
Thanks in advance,...
👍
very understandable
Kiva :D
Me - Marc
I have a motorbike
Tämä on Marcin moottoripyörä
(This is Marc's motorbike)
Marc ei ole ajanut moottoripyörällään pitkään aikaan
(Marc hasn't ridden his motorcycle for a long time)
Ehkä on aika ajaa sillä taas...
(Maybe it's time to ride it again...)
I used Google translate so don't be surprised if there is a lot of wrong with this heh
It's actually very good!
YEAH
:D
😍
07.11.2024 Terkut Puolasta
Miksi tämä lause on genetiivissa: Viikkosi alkaa paremmin hyvän musiikkin tahdissa. Paljon kiitoksia vastauksesta. Mitä on tärkeää genetiivissä. Genetiivi tulee/sijaitsee suomessa ennen toista sanaa päinvastoin kuin puolassa. Esimerkiksi : talon Pihalla on koira puolaksi on pihalla talon on koira.
noin, siisti!
Partiivi moniko
Sul on kyl nii ASMR ääni ku olla ja voi 😍
Hahaha onko xD Kiitos :D
Huva😊
Saunan takana
Sinun videos are also ASMR 🥴
Kiitos xD
mä opin paljon sulta
i love how you have to explain any grammatical category to English speakers cuz their language is so poor xd
Thanks!
Thank you so much once again for your generous support towards my channel. I truly appreciate your kindness and I hope you will continue to enjoy my videos in the future too. Have a lovely day, kiitos paljon! :)
kiitos!
Kiitos paljon