LS tractors are excellent even when one forgets about cost comparisons. When you bring cost into the equation, it is a no-brainer. With a farm background and many tractors of all makes, I am on my third LS (moved from an open station compact to a cabbed compact and now a utility). All have been highly reliable and a pleasure to operate. Funny thing was before I bought the cabbed compact, I thought I wanted a 4066. JD dealers hardly paid attention to me at their shops and none followed up with me even though I left my contact info with them. I guess if you are not spending a minimum of $500K, you are just a distraction from real bottom line profit. My LS dealer knocks himself out having been responsive both before and after the sale. Go figure.
I've owned my LS tractor for 10 years I've absolutely loved it there is some little things that I don't like about it but overall it's been a great tractor
Thanks for this comparison! We bought a Kioti CK25 around 2010 (we are in Belgium), mechanic gearbox. The tractor proved to be very good at work, both front loader and with rear attachments. But we had several reliability problems : fuel injection pump, synchro reverser, brakes and clutch early worn out... But the biggest problem was with parts availability and vendors. Currently, the tractor is inactive because we weren't able to find a mechanic to do the repair! (I personnaly run JDs 😉).
I used to own an LS XR4046, 46hp 4wd with cab and FEL. Good solid machine, and an absolute dream to brush hog with using a Land Pride 72" rotary cutter. I only had it 2 years before downsizing. 2 years and 200 hours later I was able to sell it for what I had in it.
I've owned an LS tractor for several years now (see my RUclips channel). I have nothing but positive things to say about it. My dealer has been really great to work with. However, he is closed on Saturdays, so on that one Saturday I needed a small part, I drove the extra hour to the New Holland Dealer to get it. While I was there, I walked the lot, and saw LS Mtron placards on most (not all) their tractors. About the quality of LS vs Kubota or JD. I used to be a JD mechanic. And like you said, they have their problems too. Most of the smaller John Deeres, including the 3039R, are made by Yanmar. And quality control is an issue. The LS also has many options that come standard vs the JD, things like the draw bar, rear remotes, etc. What you're paying for, with the JD, is the name and dealer support. I'll admit that LS is lacking in dealers, but they are growing and getting better. Kubota, in my opinion, is one of the best lines out there! My issue that I have with Kubota is that they KNOW they are the best, and they demand a price tag to match. Thank you for not slamming the LS brand. Many people only show the issues and negativity. LS tractors are solid. If they were not, the New Holland wouldn't put their name on them. I will do a video to answer yours.
I had JD’s for 20 plus years. It was hard to do but I love the change to LS. I purchased a MT352 cab over and love everything about it. Price was the biggest deal. I purchased it to use not to sale so it was the best decision I have made. 6 year warranty and my dealer backs up and services what he sales. I’m a blue man now!
Excellent video. I'm a long time Yanmar owner. There are tradeoffs in buying the less popular brands but I've rarely needed parts or service so it's okay. It comes down to your intended use and available budget. If I used mine in commercial service, I would be willing to spend more. For small farm use, most all the available brands do a good job and provide a good value to the owners. And for what it's worth, sometimes a person just likes other colors to choose from. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on it.
I own a 3046R open station and am perfectly happy with it. I still find that videos about other manufacturers are interesting and informative. That's why I look forward to each one of your videos, you have variety. Thanks for doing such a good job, especially the research into the specs!
I've owned my LS XR3037H for almost 8 years and the only thing that I've had to fix is one front Hub Seal. It's been a problem free machine for the most part. Highly recommend.
I traded in my JD for an LS about 2yrs ago. I have a dealer about 40mins from me. The service dept is what sold me on it (and that I got a lot more tractor for the price than I would with the other brands). I have never had to wait on a part (although I've only needed a couple) and the service dept is always more than willing to do a lot of research to get me the "weird" add-ons I want (like a float control for a rear remote). I've been much happier with them than what I got from my previous dealer.
Own a XR3135. Manual trans, not hydrostat. The 2 main reasons I purchased which I wish you would have noticed, is the heavy duty steel frame of the loader and especially the mount and how it attaches to the tractor. It is masssive compared to Deere, Mahindra and Kubota. My place is in the Arizona desert and full of rock. This tractor has been absolutly impressive. I have rebuilt the bucket once because my wife and I wore the bottom of the bucket out until it broke off. It now has bolt on cutting edge and 3/8" floor. The other as touched on, is the skid steer quick attach. I also have 2 extra hydraulic circuits which allow a skeleton grapple bucket on the front and still have 2 extra ports on the rear. I do have the better seat with arm rests and weight adjustments. I'm 6 ft and plenty of room, no sore knees from running all day. The only problem we had was learning how to properly do the ReGen. If it is not done correctly, it goes to a flashing warning which needs the dealer to clear. But I'll bet that is common on all this new equipment. Otherwise, I could not see giving $10k more for a Deere or 'Bota. This tractor is heavy duty, the others would have broke in these rocks. Thanks
Great job Courtney. As others have stated it is great to have your comparison of other brands. Very informative and interesting. Have a great day and be safe!. Tim
I have 2 LS tractors , a xg3025 200hrs, had to put spring on backhoe safety lever $1.00. made thousands on its jobs. A 2010 3010 LS . needed emergency light switch $30. Took a week to get. Check hyd. lifting power on the LS compared to Kubota. Thats what shocked me..Great tractors
I have been waiting for this for a very, very, long time. I have been looking at the comparisons of these tractors, and others vs. JD & Kubota for a while. Someday, I will pull the trigger on something that fits my needs. Thank you for pulling the trigger on investing on this compassion. I look forward to our point of view.
Good to see you cover more colors other than green & orange. Back in May purchased a brand new 2021 LS MT125 from a dealer 17 miles from were I work and 31 miles from my home. It came with the FEL and a pinned on bucket but the bucket was setup for the LS small QA assembly. I ordered the QA assembly, 3rd function remote hydraulic diverter kit, and brush grapple. Along with that I ordered the backhoe and bought a trailer for it all. Understanding that shipping on stuff coming out of South Korea is taking longer than usual, it took 6 months to finally get everything delivered to and installed by my dealer. It's been a great little machine and now has 112 hours on it. Overall I'm happy with my decision to go blue and for the money I spent I feel I got more than if I had gone green or orange. I put 3.5" BORA spacers on the rears before I ever did anything with it as well as put hard foam rubber in all 4 tires. I didn't go through my dealer for those but I have zero regrets on spending that money on top of what I spent to buy the tractor and all the accessories. Keep making quality videos in red, green, orange, or (my favorite) blue.
Hello there! I am also looking at the MT 125. I found it interesting that LS doesn’t recommend wheel weights and potentially going to void warranty. Did the Bora spacers work out for you? Did you get the mid mount belly mower?
Have a 2019 LS MT347 we got new and have about a hundred hours on it without a single problem. We love it so far and it's gets used all the time. Nice to see a fair review about it. Sure they aren't the best brand out there but for the price and features you get plus the warranty that actually is covered by the manufacturer you can't go wrong in my opinion. If I were to buy a green or orange one I'd have gotten nowhere near the same machine for the money.
I have the New Holland Workmaster 40. Basically this same tractor. I shopped ALL the brands. This one gave me way more tractor for the price. More features, more lift capacity, more power, etc. It's been totally trouble free. Regen only happens every 30 hours or so. It's been a great tractor. New Holland dealers are everywhere. Great support.
I just picked up a 48hp TYM for a hair over $25k new and am pleased with it so far. As you were doing the walk around it basically was all the same but with a better seat, a rear 3pt control lever at the back, and a third remote control button on the hydraulic joystick. Great video!
I bought the TYM T474 also and absolutely love it. The prices was right and it’s a beautiful well built tractor I believe. The green one was $12000 more, starting price, with less comfort and options.
I really like your channel. I've learned a lot before I bought my Branson 2515h for my 12 acres. I just couldn't afford Green or Orange paint, plus I look better in RED. LOL . The lift capacity of my Branson (2200 lbs) helps considerably for removing stumps, especially with a 24 HP tractor. I also have 275 gal water totes I have to move for watering my fields with rain harvested water. Some of the more expensive comparable Deeres can't compete with that. My dealer is an hour away and a local place 30 miles away works on Bransons too. Thanks again for your channel and great info!!!
I bought an LS XR4040H in 2016, and have over 425 hours on it. It has run like a champ since day 1. The only parts issue is that the ignition switch is getting 'touchy' - it wants you to turn it just to the right spot, not beyond it - but even that hasn't been a real issue. Simple machine without a lot to go wrong with it and nothing has. Change fluids and filters when needed, and keep right on working. Just depends on whether you want to spend $10K more to pay for another company's marketing and t-shirts, or whether you want to use that money on something better. I ended choosing the LS (came with front end loader, box scraper, 6' rear mower, tires loaded), and also bought a WoodMaxx MX9900 PTO-drive wood chipper, AND an Alum-Line Dual-line Livestock trailer, and the grand total for all three was STILL less than what the green folks wanted for their tractor alone.
Nice review. Definitely worth consideration when looking to buy. I have had my Mahindra 6530 12 years. It was a cheap tractor but is rugged and has been reliable and was 25% less expensive than and orange or green tractor at that time.
Thanks for the interesting review. I've been running a 2009 NH T1110 28hp sub compact with a mid and rear PTO for a few years. It only had 92 hours on it when we picked it up. Has been an excellent performer mowing, tilling, loading and snow blowing, although I must say I do have quick attachment envy when I see these newer rigs.
I have a 2013 New Holland Boomer 50 open cab (made by LS). Wanted a cab tractor just bought an LS MT4 58. And love it. Drove 1-1/2 hours to get it because that was the closest one I could find even though there is an LS dealer in the same town. It has lots of the features of its competitors. Thanks for this video. I appreciate your honest approach!
Bruce Kennon Was originally interested in purchasing a New Holland and discovered thru research that LS manufactured the New Holland under the New Holland brand. I purchased a LS XG3032 4wd with front end loader and backhoe attachment. I have been clearing my land with the aid of Piranha blade attached to the front end loader bucket. Once I had a good understanding of the exhaust system regeneration process, I have found this tractor to be very reliable and productive. The horse power output of the tractor and backhoe attachment has been more than expected. I have also found the parts being very competitive in price. As with any equipment, a regimented maintenance plan is critical to the life of the machine. I am very satisfied with this brand tractor.
A nice comparison. I bought a LS XR4155 W/Cab for 35000 with 3 remotes. The comparable JD was 53000. I used the money I saved to by a new grapple, new 72" rototiller, new 78" flail mower, and planter, and still had money left over. Everything works great.
I have been budgeted at 32k for a tractor for my ranch. It’s 220 acres so I need about as big of a tractor as possible. I could get a 26hp kubota for 32k or I could get a 42hp ls thats waaay bigger
THAT'S what I needed to read! I went from wanting a skid steer to seeing how these tractors almost do the same for SO much less...use the money saved to buy all the attachments you want! thanks.
I went to trade in my older john deere in on a new 3033r but they would not give me near its worth so I studied many different tractor mfg companies and models but chose the kioti ck3510se. I have been impressed with its power and deluxe features such as dual remotes as standard equipment, I even saved 10,000 dollars in the process. I do want say that you have some of the best tractor videos on the web, best of luck to you in what ever you do in life, thanks again.
Got a LS MT345 this spring so far really love this tractor I have just over 100 hours on it and it’s operated great no problems. I watch your channel and am glad to see a LS on here!
Before I bought my LS, I looked at several brands. I bought mine in 2020 and paid $28000 with loader, metal roof and a 6’ grapple. When I looked at JD and Kubota, I could barely buy the tractor for that price. Mine is the xr4140, 40hp. I have two maybe three LS dealers within a 1 hour drive one of which is within 15 minutes. I have had it for about a year and a half and I’ve been very happy with it. Thank you for all of your videos, I’ve learned a good bit from them. Get it up!
I believe LS is a quality tractor and is gaining popularity very quickly. They are an established manufacturer. Where I live there are 4 LS dealers, 5 JD dealers, and 3 Kubota dealers within a 80 mile radius of where I live. I have an LS and I have 2 friends that have comparable JD’s and I have to say the LS stands strong right next to JD at thousands of dollars less.
Love my LS XR3135HC 35 HP cab model. My dealer is close and has been a dealer since the 60s. He was closer than orange or green dealers. I reserched a lot before buying have owned the tractor for about 2 years and I have not had a problem to date. All the best from Greensboro NC.
Good review. When I was shopping for a tractor early this year I looked at the big 2, the New Holland/LS and the Kioti. Then I stopped in at one of the bigger local dealers and they convinced me to look at one I hadn’t considered…Branson. 3515H to be specific. It was the heaviest, had the best loader capacity, but what I really liked was the mechanical simplicity of the non turbo engine that was co-produced with Cummins and the all cast iron rear end. The value and a 7 year warranty was also hard to argue with. I ended up going that route and it’s been an absolute workhorse in our property services company. Just land planed a shared community gravel driveway with it today.
Just got an LS mt125 recently and love it. One of the things that led to my decision was that I could get it that day and not have to wait months for the Bobcat I was looking into. I only have 2 acres so the small MT125 is all that I need and I am impressed with its capabilities.
Hello there! Seven months later what is your impression of the MT 125? Do you wish you would have gone with the MT 225? What attachments do you use? Did you get the backhoe?
I have a 21' MT2 25S the operator platform is vastly improved. About four more inches of leg room and the seat is several inches higher. In general its a nice unit. I had a Kubota BX2670 for 7 years but needed more capacity without being too much bigger. I'm still not used to the side by side pedal but I don't like the totally above the floor treadle on the B, LX and L series as well as the small operator platform. I have aa 34" inseam so having your knees up in the air isn't fun. Loader doesn't have the finesse of the Kubota but at the price point I can tolerate it.
I have a LS XR4145 cab tractor that was bought used and and it’s been a great tractor though dealer support is a minor issue. I did have to replace the computer in it which was highly frustrating because there were only two servicing dealers, both about an hour drive, and I picked the wrong one to do the work. All dealers are not created equal! Joes Tractor in Thomasville, NC was fantastic and I’ve done more business with them since. I’ve thought about trading it for a Kubota or JD cause they have dealers within 15 and 20 minutes respectively, but to get something in a comparable price range I’d simply have to give up too much tractor. I enjoy your videos and was pleased to see this review of LS.
Had a subcompact Kubota for 19 years. The little Kubota was one tough little tractor and gave great service. Plowing snow however showed its limitations so I got a new tractor. I've had my LS XG3025H for 3 and a half years without a problem. Got a 7' hydraulic plow in front with a 7' grader blade in the back. With chains on the front, this thing is a snow eating beast. I skid out 60' pine and fir logs (up to 16" on the butt end) and it never complains. As set up, the LS was about $5000 less than an equivalent Kubota. JD was never on my radar...I have friends that have them and all I heard was complaining, mostly little things, but still. One wants a new LS after watching mine work. I guess time will tell, but very happy so far.
A big difference to me besides the lower upfront cost for a TYM, was the features included standard. As I recall LS was similar for the same tractor offered by NH. You got more buying the LS branded model. On the TYM it was a nicer seat, better 3-point arms, draft control, two rear remotes, larger flow rates, higher lift capacities both ends, prewired trailer connector, rear work light. Many of these features were not present, or cost significantly more to add on (the remotes in particular) with JD or Kubota. My only compliant is the slower loader speed (the cost of higher lifting capacity) and that you really cannot operate both at the same time reliably. That backhoe is the same as sold by Titan attachments. Which has Besko valves in it, a South Korean company. The width will be based on ag tires in the narrowest wheel mounting orientation. R4s are much wider.
I have a XR3135H LS. I love it!! My dealer is local and is very easy to work with. That is the #1 reason I bought an LS. I have a couple of complaints, but they are really not worth mentioning. I have had it for 5 years and have around 900 hrs on it so far.
Very fair analysis, buy the best that you can afford without overextending yourself and try to get something as new or limited hours as possible. A tractor that is in good working order ,regardless of color, is better than not having one
I did a lot of research, including watching this video before buying my LS MT235e. I have been very satisfied with the tractor. With loaded tires it weighs enough to handle everything I have asked of it. It actually lifts more with the front end loader than the specs say as long as I keep an implement attached to the rear to counter balance the weight. Thanks for the informative video. Your channel is always one of my first stops for information.
I've got an 2019 XR4145 with about 200 hours and love it. Been a great tractor and does 99% of what I need. To me the bang for the buck of LS is huge, and in reality it is a New Holland. LS makes all the smaller New Holland and Massey Ferguson tractors. My dealer is 20 minutes ago and offers free pick up and delivery for warranty service.
My father in law has a New Holland TC33DA from 2004 and has been a workhorse. The only issue has been the temp gauge that has been replaced three times, and the forth he just added a separate stand alone gauge off the side as the one built in was so expensive and has worked flawlessly since.
I am an LS dealer in Upstate NY. Parts availability is really good right now. Less than a 10 day turn around. Reliability is excellent. And while there is a difference between the JD and LS, you really need to consider the biggest elephant in the room. MONEY!!! Some customers will not even look at LS. But if you do, I think you would be surprised.
I have had a NH TZ18D since 2004. 600 hours. A lot of loader work, box blade work and straight blade work. Also grass and post hole digging. Only problem was a leak in a hydraulic line to the loader. NH/LS tractors are built to last.
Very interesting. One thing I've noticed with the other brands is the SCVs seem to be sloppy. My brother in law owns a Mahindra and the loader is sloppy and everything feels cheap. As far as loader lift capacity, I'm sure the geometry of the loader has something to do with it, if the cylinders and system pressures are similar. If the loader of the LS is slower, it could have larger cylinders pushing that lift capacity up.
I have a 2007 Case/IH D40 which I believe is manufactured by same company. I purchased it in 2007 with 298 hours on it. It is now approaching 800 hours.I have not had any issues at all with it. Very satisfied with quality and service of this tractor . I mainly use it for small wood lot and property maintenance. Enjoyed this review.
Nice job on this Courtney. Love seeing other brands reviewed. I'm a new Kubota owner and I agree that the dealer was a big factor in my choice. I was shopping last year and two local Deere dealers didn't return my call or emails. The Kubota dealer did, answered all my stupid questions, and got a sale...then another sale of a lawnmower...then another implement... then two more implements.... So if those two John Deere dealers in Central NY are reading this, (smash cut to Julia Roberts in Pretty Woman) Big mistake!
Great review Kourt. As a tractor enthusiasts I like em all. Another thing I like about LS is the color. Great looking machine. No matter the brand, sometime or another your going to have issues. I've owned different tractors for 30 years and in 2018 for the very first time I went and bought a brand new 3025 E. Two weeks later I had buyers remorse. I think the "E" stands for entry level . The front end loader will not pick up a 500# fuel cell. Not only have I had hydraulic issues the wiring on it is terrible. Keeps blowing 15 amp fuses. The electric PTO takes 20 to 30 seconds for the implement to kick on that is if it doesn't blow a fuse and shut the tractor down. I've had it back to the dealership twice and each time the kept it for 45 days and still have the same problems. Its the luck of the draw, whether you get a good service department or a bad one. I've seen good reviews on LS and like every other brand I have seen bad ones. Wish you all the best.
I live in MA. and i have had an LS XJ2025H for 4 years and have had only one no start. My closest dealer is 45 minutes away and they came down to my house and fixed it with no issue. I Have had 2 Kubota tractors and never had issues with them. I had a BX25 & L2501 .. I did notice the XJ2025H had more power in the backhoe & the front loader, It was easy to use and worked great. I am in the process of upgrading.
I bought an LS mt125 a year ago. Love it so far, have been using Burnips equipment for my parts since the Workmaster 25s is identical! My biggest complaint is no quick attach on the loader!
We have an LS that we've had for about 2 years now and it's been pretty reliable. We only needed only one part so far and it took a couple weeks to get here because we ordered it online. The dealer we have has been around for decades, and started selling LS 10 years ago, so they are also reliable. So far so good!
I have the XR3135H TLB and I love it. The dealer that I bought the tractor from is about 1.25 hours away, but it is in a tax free state. So I was able to save over a thousand dollars compared to the two dealers that are 30 minutes and 45 minutes away. With the savings, I purchased a grapple. The XR has a more comfortable seat, with arm rests compared to the MT and XG. It also has two auxiliary hydraulic ports in the back too. Telescopic arms for the 3 pt hitch is a plus, and I love the tilt steering wheel too. The fuel tank is on the left side of the tractor, just under the deck. In my opinion, it makes refueling a lot easier to do. One of the negatives of the tractor, which is an issue with most tractors, is the belly is completely open to damage from rocks and sticks. I drove over a rock, and lost over 6 gallons f hydraulic fluid. On a side note, I enjoy watching your videos very much. My wife even sits down with me to watch you too, and it was nice to see a LS tractor in your video. Good luck with your new property, and good luck with your RUclips channel. I’ve learned a lot from watching you, and I was watching you prior to buy a tractor. The reason why I went with the LS, was the financial savings.
I traded my 2000 New Holland TC45D for a JD3039R. I looked at the NH because I really liked how mine operated, but I also wanted a cab and the mid mount mower and the NH (or LS) with the cab didn’t have that option. One of my biggest complaints is the view to the front, which was way better in the New Holland. I find I have to try and look around the engine with the John Deere to just see where I am at with the loader. I never had that issue with the NH. I also miss that faster dumping with the NH. I keep thinking there is a problem with the JD and how it dumps. I thought that was interesting when you mentioned that. I’m glad your branching out. I kept thinking there are so many other brands that didn’t seem to be represented.
Thanks for posting something other than Orange or Green. I've had a 2020 New Holland Workmaster 35 for a year now. I didn't realize until after I bought it that it was basically an LS with different stickers. I was actually disappointed for a bit because my New Holland dealer is 30 minutes away but I have an LS dealer less than 10 minutes away. I was also disappointed because I could have had the same tractor that comes off the same assembly line for about $4000 less if I would have known to buy an LS. But, after getting past the pain of paying too much, I've really had a great experience with the tractor. It's done everything I've asked it to do and then some.
I only have 1.6 acres, waited since June to take delivery of a 2021 Mahindra emax 20, Loader and Bucket, has skid steer quick attach for forks. (awesome!) Here in southern Ontario Canada, was 25k, 7 years warranty, 0 % financing. 14 hours in after 2 weeks, sure a little jerky on the Bucket, and the Loader is a bit slow at 2500 rpm. But I am brand new operator and it is fun as can be. 1 good size stump ( 6 hours of practice with a bucket) and a bunch of small stumps, shoveled off 4 inch top soil to level some ground with the loader. My neck and shoulders just finally relaxing so I can sleep again, but so far I am loving this little digger!
When I decided to buy a sub compact for work around my orchard, I shopped, compared everything and talked to everyone I could who owned a sub. With the setup I wanted… loader …60” mm mower… pallet forks and box blade, it was not even close. $ for $ Massey was the choice for me. I have a Gator and a JD mower but couldn’t justify the the extra 5k a 1025 would have cost vs a 1725. To each their own but dollars matter.
I've got an MT7101CPS and in 5 months I have over 120hrs. I love it and I'm looking at getting an MT357H to do the smaller jobs where the 100hp isn't needed. We use our tractor for haying, plowing, disking, road building and it's been a great tractor. Added the third remote for the rear hydraulics and it came with the third function already plumbed on the loader. The New Holland dealer has been pretty impressed with it as he wanted to see how different they are from the New Holland tractors. The NH/Case has a little bit better fit and finish and polish,but for $25,000 more for basically the same tractor, it had better be. The R-14 tires are amazing and I was skeptical of them when they first came out but using them plowing, disking and heavy dirt work have been impressive and their road manners are great and smooth
Great video. Great information. I own a 2018 LS MT125. I love it and so do my neighbors. I have a great time with MT125. I use it a lot. I had to replace the battery and that's it.
Excellent comparison! I am so happy you are growing and branching out. So much great education will come from you in this process. It is time and I am very happy for you both Courtney and Chris and the growth of GWT. I have owned Cub Cudet, JD, Kubota, and finally TYM. I love my TYM above all I have owned. It has strong smooth hydraulics, an awesome Kukje engine (love its harmonics!), and it is very comfortable to operate. I am one of those guys who works on my own tractors and the TYM is very easy to work on, lots of space to access everything. My dealer is a few hours away but I have had no issues getting parts, they send them to me right from the factory in NC. I am not a tractor fanboy, love all tractors, just giving my honest feedback from my history of tractor ownership. 🙂
When I bought about a year ago, I was looking at Kubota and Kioti, roughly 40 hp tractors. Ended up getting the cab version of the kioti for just a little more than the open station Kubota. Very happy with that decision!
@@TexasRedneck CK4010 SE HST cab. Very happy with it, lot of features and capability for the money. Just get the rear tires loaded, a little tippy without an implement on the back. Edit, just a caveat, I bought it almost 2 years ago, beginning of covid. not sure what prices are like now.
On your loader comparison... For hydraulics and loaders there are several things that determine capacity and speed. Hydraulic gallons per minute determines how fast an implement works, hydraulic pressure and cylinder diameter determine the force generated. If you put fatter cylinders on your loader it will lift more, but take longer to lift. You could then upgrade to a bigger GPM pump to get your lift speed back to where you want it. The mechanical design of the loader is also a factor, e.g.. length, shape, pivot points, cylinder mounting locations. A longer loader might lift higher, but not have as much lift capacity. I'm guessing this loader geometry is the main difference you are seeing in the Deere and LS loaders.
Have a New Holland 2005 TC35DA, made by LS, with 2100 hours on it. No major issues so far. Had to remove the rubber mat as it help water and other crap that began to rust out the floorboards. You would think that's not a big issue but many of the foot controls attach to the floorboards...my parking brake no longer works because of thinned metal from rust.
You are so correct about the paint on Kubota tractors. My BX 25 cylinders faded and made the tractor look bad. I had to replace the seals 3 times in the front bucket single cylinder and replace bucket hydraulic lines twice. My under seat frame was a mess and never worked right and I had to jerry rig it. After having it for 8 years I finally traded for a 1025 R and having the JD for 7 years I’ve had zero problems and yes I paid more but it think it’s worth it.
I like that your reviewing other tractors. I am currently in the Market and looking at all Brands. Dealer support is important to me. Where my place is at it would take me at least an hr and a half one way to the closest town of any real size.
I have two John Deere tractors and love them so much. One of them have a front loader where the second one don't have one. They both are fast and will go down the asphalt at a fast rate of speed and I have one connected to a Pioneer brush hog and keep it that way while the newer one is for connecting up the landscaping rake, box blade, and my tiller and plows.
I like my baby blue. Over a year and only issue was a broken set of loader valve ball ends due to them loosening up. I’d buy again long before the more expensive names. I actually own a John Deere and am what I’d consider a Deere man as well, and after looking at the 1023-1025 I didn’t like them, I also looked at Kubotas bx23’s and didn’t like them either. Wasn’t even about price, orange is my favorite color….. but when I sat on the ls, and crawled around it and stuff, I said yeah, this is laid out better for me, and I actually chose it cause I liked it better.
Would love to see you branch out and explore the other brands and maybe even different size machines within each brand. I have a Mahindra Emax 20S and only have a very small property. I find it perfect for my needs and significantly less expensive than a 1025R. As you said, there are some sacrifices to owning machines like Mahindra, Kioti, or LS. Things like the front loader, which on the 1025R, can be removed from the tractor without leaving the operators seat, is it a necessity, no but it is a pretty awesome feature, which you pay for in the overall price of the tractor. Love your videos and look forward to more comparisons.
I have a LS mt-350e I bought new in 18. Dealer is around 30-40 mins away. Only had one issue under warranty dealer sent me the part and it was installed. I have it with the backhoe attachment and paid 29k out the door. It's my first tractor and I've been very happy with it.
I love these comparisons with the big 2 tractor companies. I ended up going with the kioti ck3510se and it has been a great tractor and done everything I've ask of it. Compared my tractor in specs and size to the john deere of equal specs and size and the cost difference brand new was pushing $18000 more for john deere. I'm so glad I went with kioti and saved all that money.
I'm in the same boat. Just picked up my Kioti CK3510SE a few weeks ago and love it. Better price point than the JD and no treadle pedal on Kubota. Absolutely love it.
@@anthonysmith4222 no it was 18 thousand difference but that was with all my attachments and third function added. I should have specified that with everything I purchased not just the tractor alone. But there was a 10 grand difference just in the tractor. I'm located in north west Ohio so I know prices vary from state and specific locations in the same states.
I have a new mt225s seat has nice armrests and great adjustability! I am fortunate to have an excellent dealer 25 miles down the road. Fit and finish looks great, very very happy with everything so far. Can’t say enough about the dealer we have and the service! That was the big seller for me!
I purchased a RK 25 loader - backhoe this fall from rural king and after looking at specs on a Kabota and a timeline to take possession of the Kabota I ended up going with the RK which is just a TYM tractor with RK stickers on it , it has a yammer engine it seems to do good so far for the price, it’s been a great tractor.
When we bought our property of 11.5 acres it had a 54hp New Holland. It only had a loader but it was a beast when it came to lift capacity. It was 15 years old and was used hard and put away wet from the previous owner and was showing its age. It was too big for my property with numerous oak trees to maneuver around and hilly terrain. I bought a JD2038R and have been very happy with it. One of the things that drove me nuts with the New Holland was the dealer support which was worthless. That’s because they paid the lowest wages possible and couldn’t keep good workers. You need to check out the local dealer support before you buy. I ended up getting my NH worked on at the local John Deere dealer who did a fabulous job so when I was ready to switch tractors they got my first consideration.
Had an open station JD, and switched for a cab version 3510 Kioti. Absolutely love the thing and at 125 hrs the only thing that has ever broken was the windshield (kid + weedwacker + errant driveway rock 🤷🏻♂️). Windshield was about 400 to get replaced at the dealer including parts install and labor. Took about a month to get in from S Korea but that’s in the middle of the supply chain crisis.
Courtney: Great video, thanks! I bought a new LS XG3135H in 2016 and absolutely love it. I paid $22,000 for the tractor six years ago. It is well built and has all the power I need. Chris G. Whidbey Island, Washington
Thanks for the video on the LS tractor, Courtney! These lesser-known tractors are a great value for the money. If you have a reputable local dealer for any of those brands, you could get a lot of tractor for a lot less money. Unfortunately, many of the dealers simply carry the line in addition to Scag ZTR's, Cub Cadet, and Husqvarna, etc. so I'm a bit concerned about getting an experienced LS mechanic to work on them. A big Ag dealer that carries LS, TYM, Branson, Kioti, Yanmar, etc. as a side brand would make me feel much more comfortable.
I have a MT225S for over a year now, & very happy with it, Loader & backhoe quick release, the seat is comfy with adjustable arm rests, adjustable seat height, tilt steering wheel, cruse control, Yanmar engine.( have front & rear forks for what I do ) it also has mid mount capable, & with 3 speed hydro it makes for a good day. ( & over all is smother than my past tractor & others I’ve used new or old.)
Just bought my new 2021 New Holland Workmaster 40 About 2 weeks ago. I Absolutely love it and saved 3-5K from a 2038R I was looking at through Deere. 10 year powertrain warranty. And answer to your question yes that tractor can be ordered with mid pto. I love watching your videos by the way!
I grew up farming on Ford tractors in the 70's and 80's, 3 years ago I decided to purchase a compact tractor to hire out and do brush hog and tiller work and decided on a Mahindra 1533 after much shopping around, and have not been disappointed yet! That thing is a workhorse! I am using a 6 ft medium/heavy duty cutter behind it, and have cleared properties that the owners never thought I would with it when it showed up on the job site, for a 35 HP tractor that thing is impressive!
I just bought a new TYM and have been very impressed with it so far. I’m not worried about resale but am concerned with and repair facilities. Getting a dealership for you in any of the Japanese or Korean dealership would be a great fit.
One thing I will mention about SSQA. Our 3039R Cab was purchased used already upgraded to SSQA from factory with the black HD bucket. The plates on the tractor side are about an inch wider than "standard" and don't fit all skid steer attachments. Our RK37 has SSQA standard and it has the "normal" size plates and has fit everything so far.
Been running a 4047 with FEL and Backhoe for about 10 years. Bought from a dealer that was dropping the LS line so I got a good deal. Only real problem was a short in the wiring harness in the PTO circuit. The problems seem to come from the newer models and units.
Take a look at a Kioti. Bought a brand new CK4010 one year ago in November. Had buyers remorse almost immediately. So I bought the backhoe attachment I should have bought to begin with. 130 hours in I have 0 regrets. Great machine. I’d like to talk about dealer support but I just haven’t needed it knock on wood.
I have a little blue NH 33hp and I have worked it hard for the last few years. The only thing that I have had to replace is the key switch. I really like it and it was half the price of green.
LS tractors are excellent even when one forgets about cost comparisons. When you bring cost into the equation, it is a no-brainer. With a farm background and many tractors of all makes, I am on my third LS (moved from an open station compact to a cabbed compact and now a utility). All have been highly reliable and a pleasure to operate. Funny thing was before I bought the cabbed compact, I thought I wanted a 4066. JD dealers hardly paid attention to me at their shops and none followed up with me even though I left my contact info with them. I guess if you are not spending a minimum of $500K, you are just a distraction from real bottom line profit. My LS dealer knocks himself out having been responsive both before and after the sale. Go figure.
JD only cares if you got at least a million to finance.
Thanks for the information.
is the back hoe as smooth to use as a john deere
I've owned my LS tractor for 10 years I've absolutely loved it there is some little things that I don't like about it but overall it's been a great tractor
Thanks for this comparison! We bought a Kioti CK25 around 2010 (we are in Belgium), mechanic gearbox. The tractor proved to be very good at work, both front loader and with rear attachments. But we had several reliability problems : fuel injection pump, synchro reverser, brakes and clutch early worn out... But the biggest problem was with parts availability and vendors. Currently, the tractor is inactive because we weren't able to find a mechanic to do the repair! (I personnaly run JDs 😉).
I bought a 2021 MT225S almost a year ago and I LOVE mine. No issues, starts great, plenty of power around the yard and driveway.
I used to own an LS XR4046, 46hp 4wd with cab and FEL. Good solid machine, and an absolute dream to brush hog with using a Land Pride 72" rotary cutter. I only had it 2 years before downsizing. 2 years and 200 hours later I was able to sell it for what I had in it.
I've owned an LS tractor for several years now (see my RUclips channel). I have nothing but positive things to say about it. My dealer has been really great to work with. However, he is closed on Saturdays, so on that one Saturday I needed a small part, I drove the extra hour to the New Holland Dealer to get it. While I was there, I walked the lot, and saw LS Mtron placards on most (not all) their tractors.
About the quality of LS vs Kubota or JD. I used to be a JD mechanic. And like you said, they have their problems too. Most of the smaller John Deeres, including the 3039R, are made by Yanmar. And quality control is an issue. The LS also has many options that come standard vs the JD, things like the draw bar, rear remotes, etc. What you're paying for, with the JD, is the name and dealer support. I'll admit that LS is lacking in dealers, but they are growing and getting better.
Kubota, in my opinion, is one of the best lines out there! My issue that I have with Kubota is that they KNOW they are the best, and they demand a price tag to match.
Thank you for not slamming the LS brand. Many people only show the issues and negativity. LS tractors are solid. If they were not, the New Holland wouldn't put their name on them.
I will do a video to answer yours.
I had JD’s for 20 plus years. It was hard to do but I love the change to LS. I purchased a MT352 cab over and love everything about it. Price was the biggest deal. I purchased it to use not to sale so it was the best decision I have made. 6 year warranty and my dealer backs up and services what he sales. I’m a blue man now!
Excellent video. I'm a long time Yanmar owner. There are tradeoffs in buying the less popular brands but I've rarely needed parts or service so it's okay. It comes down to your intended use and available budget. If I used mine in commercial service, I would be willing to spend more. For small farm use, most all the available brands do a good job and provide a good value to the owners. And for what it's worth, sometimes a person just likes other colors to choose from. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on it.
I own a 3046R open station and am perfectly happy with it. I still find that videos about other manufacturers are interesting and informative. That's why I look forward to each one of your videos, you have variety. Thanks for doing such a good job, especially the research into the specs!
I appreciate it! I had a 3046r and loved it.
I've owned my LS XR3037H for almost 8 years and the only thing that I've had to fix is one front Hub Seal. It's been a problem free machine for the most part. Highly recommend.
I traded in my JD for an LS about 2yrs ago. I have a dealer about 40mins from me. The service dept is what sold me on it (and that I got a lot more tractor for the price than I would with the other brands). I have never had to wait on a part (although I've only needed a couple) and the service dept is always more than willing to do a lot of research to get me the "weird" add-ons I want (like a float control for a rear remote). I've been much happier with them than what I got from my previous dealer.
Own a XR3135. Manual trans, not hydrostat. The 2 main reasons I purchased which I wish you would have noticed, is the heavy duty steel frame of the loader and especially the mount and how it attaches to the tractor. It is masssive compared to Deere, Mahindra and Kubota. My place is in the Arizona desert and full of rock. This tractor has been absolutly impressive. I have rebuilt the bucket once because my wife and I wore the bottom of the bucket out until it broke off. It now has bolt on cutting edge and 3/8" floor. The other as touched on, is the skid steer quick attach. I also have 2 extra hydraulic circuits which allow a skeleton grapple bucket on the front and still have 2 extra ports on the rear. I do have the better seat with arm rests and weight adjustments. I'm 6 ft and plenty of room, no sore knees from running all day. The only problem we had was learning how to properly do the ReGen. If it is not done correctly, it goes to a flashing warning which needs the dealer to clear. But I'll bet that is common on all this new equipment. Otherwise, I could not see giving $10k more for a Deere or 'Bota. This tractor is heavy duty, the others would have broke in these rocks. Thanks
Great job Courtney. As others have stated it is great to have your comparison of other brands. Very informative and interesting. Have a great day and be safe!. Tim
I own an LS and am happy with it. It’s strong, simple, bullet proof basically and you get more for your money than green or orange
I have 2 LS tractors , a xg3025 200hrs, had to put spring on backhoe safety lever $1.00. made thousands on its jobs. A 2010 3010 LS . needed emergency light switch $30. Took a week to get. Check hyd. lifting power on the LS compared to Kubota. Thats what shocked me..Great tractors
I have been waiting for this for a very, very, long time. I have been looking at the comparisons of these tractors, and others vs. JD & Kubota for a while. Someday, I will pull the trigger on something that fits my needs. Thank you for pulling the trigger on investing on this compassion. I look forward to our point of view.
Thanks for doing this Courtney! It's always interesting to compare different brands.
Good to see you cover more colors other than green & orange. Back in May purchased a brand new 2021 LS MT125 from a dealer 17 miles from were I work and 31 miles from my home. It came with the FEL and a pinned on bucket but the bucket was setup for the LS small QA assembly. I ordered the QA assembly, 3rd function remote hydraulic diverter kit, and brush grapple. Along with that I ordered the backhoe and bought a trailer for it all. Understanding that shipping on stuff coming out of South Korea is taking longer than usual, it took 6 months to finally get everything delivered to and installed by my dealer. It's been a great little machine and now has 112 hours on it. Overall I'm happy with my decision to go blue and for the money I spent I feel I got more than if I had gone green or orange. I put 3.5" BORA spacers on the rears before I ever did anything with it as well as put hard foam rubber in all 4 tires. I didn't go through my dealer for those but I have zero regrets on spending that money on top of what I spent to buy the tractor and all the accessories. Keep making quality videos in red, green, orange, or (my favorite) blue.
Hello there! I am also looking at the MT 125. I found it interesting that LS doesn’t recommend wheel weights and potentially going to void warranty. Did the Bora spacers work out for you? Did you get the mid mount belly mower?
Have a 2019 LS MT347 we got new and have about a hundred hours on it without a single problem. We love it so far and it's gets used all the time. Nice to see a fair review about it. Sure they aren't the best brand out there but for the price and features you get plus the warranty that actually is covered by the manufacturer you can't go wrong in my opinion. If I were to buy a green or orange one I'd have gotten nowhere near the same machine for the money.
I sell Mahindra. I watch all your videos to learn about tractors. That was a great comprehensive video on the LS. Awesome!
I have the New Holland Workmaster 40. Basically this same tractor. I shopped ALL the brands. This one gave me way more tractor for the price. More features, more lift capacity, more power, etc. It's been totally trouble free. Regen only happens every 30 hours or so. It's been a great tractor. New Holland dealers are everywhere. Great support.
I just picked up a 48hp TYM for a hair over $25k new and am pleased with it so far. As you were doing the walk around it basically was all the same but with a better seat, a rear 3pt control lever at the back, and a third remote control button on the hydraulic joystick. Great video!
I bought the TYM T474 also and absolutely love it. The prices was right and it’s a beautiful well built tractor I believe. The green one was $12000 more, starting price, with less comfort and options.
I really like your channel. I've learned a lot before I bought my Branson 2515h for my 12 acres. I just couldn't afford Green or Orange paint, plus I look better in RED. LOL . The lift capacity of my Branson (2200 lbs) helps considerably for removing stumps, especially with a 24 HP tractor. I also have 275 gal water totes I have to move for watering my fields with rain harvested water. Some of the more expensive comparable Deeres can't compete with that. My dealer is an hour away and a local place 30 miles away works on Bransons too. Thanks again for your channel and great info!!!
I bought an LS XR4040H in 2016, and have over 425 hours on it. It has run like a champ since day 1. The only parts issue is that the ignition switch is getting 'touchy' - it wants you to turn it just to the right spot, not beyond it - but even that hasn't been a real issue. Simple machine without a lot to go wrong with it and nothing has. Change fluids and filters when needed, and keep right on working. Just depends on whether you want to spend $10K more to pay for another company's marketing and t-shirts, or whether you want to use that money on something better. I ended choosing the LS (came with front end loader, box scraper, 6' rear mower, tires loaded), and also bought a WoodMaxx MX9900 PTO-drive wood chipper, AND an Alum-Line Dual-line Livestock trailer, and the grand total for all three was STILL less than what the green folks wanted for their tractor alone.
Nice review. Definitely worth consideration when looking to buy. I have had my Mahindra 6530 12 years. It was a cheap tractor but is rugged and has been reliable and was 25% less expensive than and orange or green tractor at that time.
Thanks for the interesting review. I've been running a 2009 NH T1110 28hp sub compact with a mid and rear PTO for a few years. It only had 92 hours on it when we picked it up. Has been an excellent performer mowing, tilling, loading and snow blowing, although I must say I do have quick attachment envy when I see these newer rigs.
I have a 2013 New Holland Boomer 50 open cab (made by LS). Wanted a cab tractor just bought an LS MT4 58. And love it. Drove 1-1/2 hours to get it because that was the closest one I could find even though there is an LS dealer in the same town. It has lots of the features of its competitors. Thanks for this video. I appreciate your honest approach!
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Was originally interested in purchasing a New Holland and discovered thru research that LS manufactured the New Holland under the New Holland brand. I purchased a LS XG3032 4wd with front end loader and backhoe attachment. I have been clearing my land with the aid of Piranha blade attached to the front end loader bucket. Once I had a good understanding of the exhaust system regeneration process, I have found this tractor to be very reliable and productive. The horse power output of the tractor and backhoe attachment has been more than expected. I have also found the parts being very competitive in price. As with any equipment, a regimented maintenance plan is critical to the life of the machine.
I am very satisfied with this brand tractor.
A nice comparison. I bought a LS XR4155 W/Cab for 35000 with 3 remotes. The comparable JD was 53000. I used the money I saved to by a new grapple, new 72" rototiller, new 78" flail mower, and planter, and still had money left over. Everything works great.
Still enjoying the tractor? I've been juggling a Bobcat or an LS after seeing how much John Deere was compared to competitive models.
I have been budgeted at 32k for a tractor for my ranch. It’s 220 acres so I need about as big of a tractor as possible. I could get a 26hp kubota for 32k or I could get a 42hp ls thats waaay bigger
THAT'S what I needed to read! I went from wanting a skid steer to seeing how these tractors almost do the same for SO much less...use the money saved to buy all the attachments you want! thanks.
Had a 45hp LS (XR4145HC) for 3 years. Zero issues so far. Have a great dealer too
I went to trade in my older john deere in on a new 3033r but they would not give me near its worth so I studied many different tractor mfg companies and models but chose the kioti ck3510se. I have been impressed with its power and deluxe features such as dual remotes as standard equipment, I even saved 10,000 dollars in the process. I do want say that you have some of the best tractor videos on the web, best of luck to you in what ever you do in life, thanks again.
Got a LS MT345 this spring so far really love this tractor I have just over 100 hours on it and it’s operated great no problems. I watch your channel and am glad to see a LS on here!
Update I have 300 hours now still great tractor no problems
Before I bought my LS, I looked at several brands. I bought mine in 2020 and paid $28000 with loader, metal roof and a 6’ grapple. When I looked at JD and Kubota, I could barely buy the tractor for that price. Mine is the xr4140, 40hp. I have two maybe three LS dealers within a 1 hour drive one of which is within 15 minutes. I have had it for about a year and a half and I’ve been very happy with it. Thank you for all of your videos, I’ve learned a good bit from them. Get it up!
I believe LS is a quality tractor and is gaining popularity very quickly. They are an established manufacturer. Where I live there are 4 LS dealers, 5 JD dealers, and 3 Kubota dealers within a 80 mile radius of where I live. I have an LS and I have 2 friends that have comparable JD’s and I have to say the LS stands strong right next to JD at thousands of dollars less.
Love my LS XR3135HC 35 HP cab model. My dealer is close and has been a dealer since the 60s. He was closer than orange or green dealers. I reserched a lot before buying have owned the tractor for about 2 years and I have not had a problem to date. All the best from Greensboro NC.
Good review. When I was shopping for a tractor early this year I looked at the big 2, the New Holland/LS and the Kioti. Then I stopped in at one of the bigger local dealers and they convinced me to look at one I hadn’t considered…Branson. 3515H to be specific. It was the heaviest, had the best loader capacity, but what I really liked was the mechanical simplicity of the non turbo engine that was co-produced with Cummins and the all cast iron rear end. The value and a 7 year warranty was also hard to argue with. I ended up going that route and it’s been an absolute workhorse in our property services company. Just land planed a shared community gravel driveway with it today.
Just got an LS mt125 recently and love it. One of the things that led to my decision was that I could get it that day and not have to wait months for the Bobcat I was looking into. I only have 2 acres so the small MT125 is all that I need and I am impressed with its capabilities.
Hello there! Seven months later what is your impression of the MT 125? Do you wish you would have gone with the MT 225? What attachments do you use? Did you get the backhoe?
I really like this comparison Courtney. It would be neat to see you keep buying some other brands as well for your opinions! I know I love my Kioti
I bought a compact LS with all the bells and whistles and I love it. Although the “smaller” dealers seem to be more difficult to deal with in our area
Thanks Alan!
I have a 21' MT2 25S the operator platform is vastly improved. About four more inches of leg room and the seat is several inches higher. In general its a nice unit. I had a Kubota BX2670 for 7 years but needed more capacity without being too much bigger. I'm still not used to the side by side pedal but I don't like the totally above the floor treadle on the B, LX and L series as well as the small operator platform. I have aa 34" inseam so having your knees up in the air isn't fun. Loader doesn't have the finesse of the Kubota but at the price point I can tolerate it.
I have had an LS 40 horse for about 1 year now. Been great with no problem. My dealer, Cosper In Alvarado Tx family owned great service!
I have a LS XR4145 cab tractor that was bought used and and it’s been a great tractor though dealer support is a minor issue. I did have to replace the computer in it which was highly frustrating because there were only two servicing dealers, both about an hour drive, and I picked the wrong one to do the work. All dealers are not created equal! Joes Tractor in Thomasville, NC was fantastic and I’ve done more business with them since. I’ve thought about trading it for a Kubota or JD cause they have dealers within 15 and 20 minutes respectively, but to get something in a comparable price range I’d simply have to give up too much tractor. I enjoy your videos and was pleased to see this review of LS.
Had a subcompact Kubota for 19 years. The little Kubota was one tough little tractor and gave great service. Plowing snow however showed its limitations so I got a new tractor. I've had my LS XG3025H for 3 and a half years without a problem. Got a 7' hydraulic plow in front with a 7' grader blade in the back. With chains on the front, this thing is a snow eating beast. I skid out 60' pine and fir logs (up to 16" on the butt end) and it never complains. As set up, the LS was about $5000 less than an equivalent Kubota. JD was never on my radar...I have friends that have them and all I heard was complaining, mostly little things, but still. One wants a new LS after watching mine work. I guess time will tell, but very happy so far.
A big difference to me besides the lower upfront cost for a TYM, was the features included standard. As I recall LS was similar for the same tractor offered by NH. You got more buying the LS branded model. On the TYM it was a nicer seat, better 3-point arms, draft control, two rear remotes, larger flow rates, higher lift capacities both ends, prewired trailer connector, rear work light. Many of these features were not present, or cost significantly more to add on (the remotes in particular) with JD or Kubota.
My only compliant is the slower loader speed (the cost of higher lifting capacity) and that you really cannot operate both at the same time reliably.
That backhoe is the same as sold by Titan attachments. Which has Besko valves in it, a South Korean company.
The width will be based on ag tires in the narrowest wheel mounting orientation. R4s are much wider.
Bought an 125 LS this last summer with the backhoe attachment it's a great little beast..
I have a XR3135H LS. I love it!! My dealer is local and is very easy to work with. That is the #1 reason I bought an LS. I have a couple of complaints, but they are really not worth mentioning. I have had it for 5 years and have around 900 hrs on it so far.
Very fair analysis, buy the best that you can afford without overextending yourself and try to get something as new or limited hours as possible. A tractor that is in good working order ,regardless of color, is better than not having one
I did a lot of research, including watching this video before buying my LS MT235e. I have been very satisfied with the tractor. With loaded tires it weighs enough to handle everything I have asked of it. It actually lifts more with the front end loader than the specs say as long as I keep an implement attached to the rear to counter balance the weight. Thanks for the informative video. Your channel is always one of my first stops for information.
I've got an 2019 XR4145 with about 200 hours and love it. Been a great tractor and does 99% of what I need. To me the bang for the buck of LS is huge, and in reality it is a New Holland. LS makes all the smaller New Holland and Massey Ferguson tractors. My dealer is 20 minutes ago and offers free pick up and delivery for warranty service.
My father in law has a New Holland TC33DA from 2004 and has been a workhorse. The only issue has been the temp gauge that has been replaced three times, and the forth he just added a separate stand alone gauge off the side as the one built in was so expensive and has worked flawlessly since.
LS mt357 owner and love it! Very fair review so thanks for keeping it real
I am an LS dealer in Upstate NY. Parts availability is really good right now. Less than a 10 day turn around. Reliability is excellent. And while there is a difference between the JD and LS, you really need to consider the biggest elephant in the room. MONEY!!!
Some customers will not even look at LS. But if you do, I think you would be surprised.
We are buying one tomorrow!!
You should give me one for free
I have had a NH TZ18D since 2004. 600 hours. A lot of loader work, box blade work and straight blade work. Also grass and post hole digging. Only problem was a leak in a hydraulic line to the loader. NH/LS tractors are built to last.
Very interesting. One thing I've noticed with the other brands is the SCVs seem to be sloppy. My brother in law owns a Mahindra and the loader is sloppy and everything feels cheap. As far as loader lift capacity, I'm sure the geometry of the loader has something to do with it, if the cylinders and system pressures are similar. If the loader of the LS is slower, it could have larger cylinders pushing that lift capacity up.
I have a 2007 Case/IH D40 which I believe is manufactured by same company. I purchased it in 2007 with 298 hours on it. It is now approaching 800 hours.I have not had any issues at all with it. Very satisfied with quality and service of this tractor . I mainly use it for small wood lot and property maintenance. Enjoyed this review.
Nice job on this Courtney. Love seeing other brands reviewed. I'm a new Kubota owner and I agree that the dealer was a big factor in my choice. I was shopping last year and two local Deere dealers didn't return my call or emails. The Kubota dealer did, answered all my stupid questions, and got a sale...then another sale of a lawnmower...then another implement... then two more implements.... So if those two John Deere dealers in Central NY are reading this, (smash cut to Julia Roberts in Pretty Woman) Big mistake!
You, young man, do a great job; especially for newbies in the tractor world. And I'm sure for the rest out there to learn a bit more.
Great review Kourt. As a tractor enthusiasts I like em all. Another thing I like about LS is the color. Great looking machine. No matter the brand, sometime or another your going to have issues. I've owned different tractors for 30 years and in 2018 for the very first time I went and bought a brand new 3025 E. Two weeks later I had buyers remorse. I think the "E" stands for entry level . The front end loader will not pick up a 500# fuel cell. Not only have I had hydraulic issues the wiring on it is terrible. Keeps blowing 15 amp fuses. The electric PTO takes 20 to 30 seconds for the implement to kick on that is if it doesn't blow a fuse and shut the tractor down. I've had it back to the dealership twice and each time the kept it for 45 days and still have the same problems. Its the luck of the draw, whether you get a good service department or a bad one. I've seen good reviews on LS and like every other brand I have seen bad ones. Wish you all the best.
I live in MA. and i have had an LS XJ2025H for 4 years and have had only one no start. My closest dealer is 45 minutes away and they came down to my house and fixed it with no issue. I Have had 2 Kubota tractors and never had issues with them. I had a BX25 & L2501 .. I did notice the XJ2025H had more power in the backhoe & the front loader, It was easy to use and worked great. I am in the process of upgrading.
I bought an LS mt125 a year ago. Love it so far, have been using Burnips equipment for my parts since the Workmaster 25s is identical! My biggest complaint is no quick attach on the loader!
We have an LS that we've had for about 2 years now and it's been pretty reliable. We only needed only one part so far and it took a couple weeks to get here because we ordered it online. The dealer we have has been around for decades, and started selling LS 10 years ago, so they are also reliable. So far so good!
Awesome, thanks for sharing!
How many hours have you put on your LS? We are debating between LS and kubota.
@@benjaminolsen6520 almost 150
@@benjaminolsen6520 look at Kioti. I was in the same spot comparing. Kioti came out on top then LS then Kubota then JD
@@tarustrader yeah I've been looking at kioti. They seem pretty dang good.
I have the XR3135H TLB and I love it. The dealer that I bought the tractor from is about 1.25 hours away, but it is in a tax free state. So I was able to save over a thousand dollars compared to the two dealers that are 30 minutes and 45 minutes away. With the savings, I purchased a grapple. The XR has a more comfortable seat, with arm rests compared to the MT and XG. It also has two auxiliary hydraulic ports in the back too. Telescopic arms for the 3 pt hitch is a plus, and I love the tilt steering wheel too. The fuel tank is on the left side of the tractor, just under the deck. In my opinion, it makes refueling a lot easier to do. One of the negatives of the tractor, which is an issue with most tractors, is the belly is completely open to damage from rocks and sticks. I drove over a rock, and lost over 6 gallons f hydraulic fluid.
On a side note, I enjoy watching your videos very much. My wife even sits down with me to watch you too, and it was nice to see a LS tractor in your video. Good luck with your new property, and good luck with your RUclips channel. I’ve learned a lot from watching you, and I was watching you prior to buy a tractor. The reason why I went with the LS, was the financial savings.
I traded my 2000 New Holland TC45D for a JD3039R. I looked at the NH because I really liked how mine operated, but I also wanted a cab and the mid mount mower and the NH (or LS) with the cab didn’t have that option. One of my biggest complaints is the view to the front, which was way better in the New Holland. I find I have to try and look around the engine with the John Deere to just see where I am at with the loader. I never had that issue with the NH. I also miss that faster dumping with the NH. I keep thinking there is a problem with the JD and how it dumps. I thought that was interesting when you mentioned that.
I’m glad your branching out. I kept thinking there are so many other brands that didn’t seem to be represented.
Thanks for posting something other than Orange or Green. I've had a 2020 New Holland Workmaster 35 for a year now. I didn't realize until after I bought it that it was basically an LS with different stickers. I was actually disappointed for a bit because my New Holland dealer is 30 minutes away but I have an LS dealer less than 10 minutes away. I was also disappointed because I could have had the same tractor that comes off the same assembly line for about $4000 less if I would have known to buy an LS. But, after getting past the pain of paying too much, I've really had a great experience with the tractor. It's done everything I've asked it to do and then some.
I only have 1.6 acres, waited since June to take delivery of a 2021 Mahindra emax 20, Loader and Bucket, has skid steer quick attach for forks. (awesome!) Here in southern Ontario Canada, was 25k, 7 years warranty, 0 % financing. 14 hours in after 2 weeks, sure a little jerky on the Bucket, and the Loader is a bit slow at 2500 rpm. But I am brand new operator and it is fun as can be. 1 good size stump ( 6 hours of practice with a bucket) and a bunch of small stumps, shoveled off 4 inch top soil to level some ground with the loader. My neck and shoulders just finally relaxing so I can sleep again, but so far I am loving this little digger!
When I decided to buy a sub compact for work around my orchard, I shopped, compared everything and talked to everyone I could who owned a sub. With the setup I wanted… loader …60” mm mower… pallet forks and box blade, it was not even close. $ for $ Massey was the choice for me. I have a Gator and a JD mower but couldn’t justify the the extra 5k a 1025 would have cost vs a 1725. To each their own but dollars matter.
I've got an MT7101CPS and in 5 months I have over 120hrs. I love it and I'm looking at getting an MT357H to do the smaller jobs where the 100hp isn't needed. We use our tractor for haying, plowing, disking, road building and it's been a great tractor. Added the third remote for the rear hydraulics and it came with the third function already plumbed on the loader. The New Holland dealer has been pretty impressed with it as he wanted to see how different they are from the New Holland tractors. The NH/Case has a little bit better fit and finish and polish,but for $25,000 more for basically the same tractor, it had better be.
The R-14 tires are amazing and I was skeptical of them when they first came out but using them plowing, disking and heavy dirt work have been impressive and their road manners are great and smooth
Great video. Great information. I own a 2018 LS MT125. I love it and so do my neighbors. I have a great time with MT125. I use it a lot. I had to replace the battery and that's it.
Excellent comparison! I am so happy you are growing and branching out. So much great education will come from you in this process. It is time and I am very happy for you both Courtney and Chris and the growth of GWT.
I have owned Cub Cudet, JD, Kubota, and finally TYM. I love my TYM above all I have owned. It has strong smooth hydraulics, an awesome Kukje engine (love its harmonics!), and it is very comfortable to operate.
I am one of those guys who works on my own tractors and the TYM is very easy to work on, lots of space to access everything. My dealer is a few hours away but I have had no issues getting parts, they send them to me right from the factory in NC.
I am not a tractor fanboy, love all tractors, just giving my honest feedback from my history of tractor ownership. 🙂
I also love my TYM, I have almost 160 trouble free hours on it.
I've been thinking about buying a TYM 574.
Great review. Biggest LS issue is the dealer network (or lack of). They all have a long way to go to match JD.
When I bought about a year ago, I was looking at Kubota and Kioti, roughly 40 hp tractors. Ended up getting the cab version of the kioti for just a little more than the open station Kubota. Very happy with that decision!
which model did you get and may I ask about what did you pay for it? Looking at getting a tractor and would really like a cab version.
@@TexasRedneck CK4010 SE HST cab. Very happy with it, lot of features and capability for the money. Just get the rear tires loaded, a little tippy without an implement on the back.
Edit, just a caveat, I bought it almost 2 years ago, beginning of covid. not sure what prices are like now.
On your loader comparison... For hydraulics and loaders there are several things that determine capacity and speed. Hydraulic gallons per minute determines how fast an implement works, hydraulic pressure and cylinder diameter determine the force generated. If you put fatter cylinders on your loader it will lift more, but take longer to lift. You could then upgrade to a bigger GPM pump to get your lift speed back to where you want it. The mechanical design of the loader is also a factor, e.g.. length, shape, pivot points, cylinder mounting locations. A longer loader might lift higher, but not have as much lift capacity. I'm guessing this loader geometry is the main difference you are seeing in the Deere and LS loaders.
shims to increase hyd speed
Have a New Holland 2005 TC35DA, made by LS, with 2100 hours on it. No major issues so far. Had to remove the rubber mat as it help water and other crap that began to rust out the floorboards. You would think that's not a big issue but many of the foot controls attach to the floorboards...my parking brake no longer works because of thinned metal from rust.
You are so correct about the paint on Kubota tractors. My BX 25 cylinders faded and made the tractor look bad. I had to replace the seals 3 times in the front bucket single cylinder and replace bucket hydraulic lines twice. My under seat frame was a mess and never worked right and I had to jerry rig it. After having it for 8 years I finally traded for a 1025 R and having the JD for 7 years I’ve had zero problems and yes I paid more but it think it’s worth it.
I like that your reviewing other tractors. I am currently in the Market and looking at all Brands. Dealer support is important to me. Where my place is at it would take me at least an hr and a half one way to the closest town of any real size.
I have two John Deere tractors and love them so much. One of them have a front loader where the second one don't have one. They both are fast and will go down the asphalt at a fast rate of speed and I have one connected to a Pioneer brush hog and keep it that way while the newer one is for connecting up the landscaping rake, box blade, and my tiller and plows.
I just bought an LS MT347 and I love it.
I have a 33 hp LS, that I bought new in 2012, so far it has been bulletproof. It gets used almost everyday from February to mid October.
I like my baby blue. Over a year and only issue was a broken set of loader valve ball ends due to them loosening up. I’d buy again long before the more expensive names. I actually own a John Deere and am what I’d consider a Deere man as well, and after looking at the 1023-1025 I didn’t like them, I also looked at Kubotas bx23’s and didn’t like them either. Wasn’t even about price, orange is my favorite color….. but when I sat on the ls, and crawled around it and stuff, I said yeah, this is laid out better for me, and I actually chose it cause I liked it better.
Would love to see you branch out and explore the other brands and maybe even different size machines within each brand. I have a Mahindra Emax 20S and only have a very small property. I find it perfect for my needs and significantly less expensive than a 1025R. As you said, there are some sacrifices to owning machines like Mahindra, Kioti, or LS. Things like the front loader, which on the 1025R, can be removed from the tractor without leaving the operators seat, is it a necessity, no but it is a pretty awesome feature, which you pay for in the overall price of the tractor. Love your videos and look forward to more comparisons.
Nice to see other colors! I trust you guys and love the info!
I have a LS mt-350e I bought new in 18. Dealer is around 30-40 mins away. Only had one issue under warranty dealer sent me the part and it was installed. I have it with the backhoe attachment and paid 29k out the door. It's my first tractor and I've been very happy with it.
I love these comparisons with the big 2 tractor companies. I ended up going with the kioti ck3510se and it has been a great tractor and done everything I've ask of it. Compared my tractor in specs and size to the john deere of equal specs and size and the cost difference brand new was pushing $18000 more for john deere. I'm so glad I went with kioti and saved all that money.
I'm in the same boat. Just picked up my Kioti CK3510SE a few weeks ago and love it. Better price point than the JD and no treadle pedal on Kubota. Absolutely love it.
You mean 1800 right? Green is expensive but 18k is a hell of difference
I also bought a kioti 35/10 se hst. It’s very well built and has the best specs
@@anthonysmith4222 no it was 18 thousand difference but that was with all my attachments and third function added. I should have specified that with everything I purchased not just the tractor alone. But there was a 10 grand difference just in the tractor. I'm located in north west Ohio so I know prices vary from state and specific locations in the same states.
@@lonewolfFirearms ah understand. My 3038e with 6ft finish mower and loader was about 21k brand new.
I have a new mt225s seat has nice armrests and great adjustability! I am fortunate to have an excellent dealer 25 miles down the road. Fit and finish looks great, very very happy with everything so far. Can’t say enough about the dealer we have and the service! That was the big seller for me!
I purchased a RK 25 loader - backhoe this fall from rural king and after looking at specs on a Kabota and a timeline to take possession of the Kabota I ended up going with the RK which is just a TYM tractor with RK stickers on it , it has a yammer engine it seems to do good so far for the price, it’s been a great tractor.
When we bought our property of 11.5 acres it had a 54hp New Holland. It only had a loader but it was a beast when it came to lift capacity. It was 15 years old and was used hard and put away wet from the previous owner and was showing its age. It was too big for my property with numerous oak trees to maneuver around and hilly terrain. I bought a JD2038R and have been very happy with it. One of the things that drove me nuts with the New Holland was the dealer support which was worthless. That’s because they paid the lowest wages possible and couldn’t keep good workers. You need to check out the local dealer support before you buy. I ended up getting my NH worked on at the local John Deere dealer who did a fabulous job so when I was ready to switch tractors they got my first consideration.
Had an open station JD, and switched for a cab version 3510 Kioti. Absolutely love the thing and at 125 hrs the only thing that has ever broken was the windshield (kid + weedwacker + errant driveway rock 🤷🏻♂️). Windshield was about 400 to get replaced at the dealer including parts install and labor. Took about a month to get in from S Korea but that’s in the middle of the supply chain crisis.
Courtney: Great video, thanks! I bought a new LS XG3135H in 2016 and absolutely love it. I paid $22,000 for the tractor six years ago. It is well built and has all the power I need.
Chris G.
Whidbey Island, Washington
Thanks for the video on the LS tractor, Courtney! These lesser-known tractors are a great value for the money. If you have a reputable local dealer for any of those brands, you could get a lot of tractor for a lot less money. Unfortunately, many of the dealers simply carry the line in addition to Scag ZTR's, Cub Cadet, and Husqvarna, etc. so I'm a bit concerned about getting an experienced LS mechanic to work on them. A big Ag dealer that carries LS, TYM, Branson, Kioti, Yanmar, etc. as a side brand would make me feel much more comfortable.
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I have a MT225S for over a year now, & very happy with it, Loader & backhoe quick release, the seat is comfy with adjustable arm rests, adjustable seat height, tilt steering wheel, cruse control, Yanmar engine.( have front & rear forks for what I do ) it also has mid mount capable, & with 3 speed hydro it makes for a good day. ( & over all is smother than my past tractor & others I’ve used new or old.)
Hi! Any issues with your 225? Still love it? I’m looking at the 125
I just bought my first LS. Dealer is putting ballast in the tires and installing a block heater. She gets delivered on Tuesday at 4pm and I'm stoked.
Just bought my new 2021 New Holland Workmaster 40 About 2 weeks ago. I Absolutely love it and saved 3-5K from a 2038R I was looking at through Deere. 10 year powertrain warranty. And answer to your question yes that tractor can be ordered with mid pto. I love watching your videos by the way!
I grew up farming on Ford tractors in the 70's and 80's, 3 years ago I decided to purchase a compact tractor to hire out and do brush hog and tiller work and decided on a Mahindra 1533 after much shopping around, and have not been disappointed yet! That thing is a workhorse! I am using a 6 ft medium/heavy duty cutter behind it, and have cleared properties that the owners never thought I would with it when it showed up on the job site, for a 35 HP tractor that thing is impressive!
Mahindras are sourced together from many manufacturers, I just could not ignore that.
Mahindra dealer & parts support is about the worst. As long as it’s a hobby farm and you don’t need spare parts quickly you’ll be ok.
I just bought a new TYM and have been very impressed with it so far. I’m not worried about resale but am concerned with and repair facilities. Getting a dealership for you in any of the Japanese or Korean dealership would be a great fit.
One thing I will mention about SSQA.
Our 3039R Cab was purchased used already upgraded to SSQA from factory with the black HD bucket. The plates on the tractor side are about an inch wider than "standard" and don't fit all skid steer attachments. Our RK37 has SSQA standard and it has the "normal" size plates and has fit everything so far.
Thanks for taking the time to create these videos
Been running a 4047 with FEL and Backhoe for about 10 years. Bought from a dealer that was dropping the LS line so I got a good deal. Only real problem was a short in the wiring harness in the PTO circuit. The problems seem to come from the newer models and units.
Take a look at a Kioti. Bought a brand new CK4010 one year ago in November. Had buyers remorse almost immediately. So I bought the backhoe attachment I should have bought to begin with. 130 hours in I have 0 regrets. Great machine. I’d like to talk about dealer support but I just haven’t needed it knock on wood.
I have a little blue NH 33hp and I have worked it hard for the last few years. The only thing that I have had to replace is the key switch. I really like it and it was half the price of green.