3 of my all time favorite players….! Huff is an absolute Legend 👍 Tom Hemby, Larry Carlton and Australias 🇦🇺 Jack Jones are up there amongst those 3 super players…!
Love those tones! 2290, 224xl, PCM 70, PCM 42, Prime Time II, Eventide H-3000, Boogie TriAxis. I’d sometimes come home from the studio, inspired to play. Plug in, flip on the rack, and suddenly the sun was shining in the window and it was time to go back to work. Thanks for the memories!
I remember meeting you at the Boogie Shop in Fountain Valley around 1995......I was in town from Canada for NAMM, and I bought a Boogie power amp. Your rack was there.....I think it was an Egnater preamp, CAE preamp, 2290, PCM70.....I forget what else....miss those days! My latest rig has evolved into being a stereo setup, using 2 separate heads, with some pedals up front, and the amp FX sends feeding into an Eventide H7600, and outs go back to the amp returns.....super simple.
Glad to see these tones are coming back...good thing I kept my parachute pants. I sold most of my rack gear to buy the Axe-Fx Ultra 10 yrs ago and I still use that with my amp loaded down and the Ultra in 4cm through my monitors for that type of sound. The stereo spread is addicting!
I love that old tone... As for the three channel spread, I've used it in mixes where I've pulled the spread more into a specific, more narrow location by not using full left-right pan, but rather placing the guitar where I want it and panning delay slightly left and right from the guitar's location. Allows the guitar to have its space, with a bit more "width", without stomping on the other instruments.
I grew up in the 70s and 80s i playin stereo i use compressor and overdrives and wah in front of a stereo fender princeton chorus and in the stereo fx loop im using Eq, Boss ce-5, Eventide tricerachorus, Eventide micropitch delay, tc electronic flashback 2 ,HoF reverb all in true stereo. Sounds amazing. Awesome video ! Im also planning on running wet/dry/wet through my jcm2000 sending out in stereo to 2 other amps.
Im 20 years old, i have a 21u rack almost filled to the brim with cool rack gear..getting a second art sgx2000 next week, aswell a ADA MP1 and a second roland gp100
i grew up on exact these tones, and therefore I chased it a long time with limited possibilities budget wise. at the beginning of the 2000´s I could have not been more outdated with this approach, but still I went for it using several multi effect units like the g system from TC. it did quiet well most of the time for live purposes. but studio wise I´ve been doin mainly rock and metal back in the days , recording in mono with mostly amp distortion and adding fx post. cpl years ago I got a job for a production company that did mainly tv and radio jingles and they had a huge studio with a beautiful adt console and tons of great boutique gear. so I felt like a little kid in a toy store. I got to play all those beautiful Amps with vintage mics and stuff all at my hands at any time. so I got back in the "production" sounds again and loved it. I sneaked it in every now and then in some tv or radio adds. when there was enough room, like you correctly said I used stereo delays, mostly 2290 or pcm 70.s that up to that day are totally out of competition. the way they sit in and cut trough the mix is just outstanding. so I ended up gettin myself a stereo rig build with two Marshall heads and a pedal drawer. nothing like the old regrigerator racks that Bradshaw built, but likewise :) I even got bob to create that rig and send me one of his midi switchers, which is awesome. these days im actually touring with this thing with one of germanys biggest pop stars and I couldn't be happier. everyone is using fractal and Kemper these days so its a joy and pure sex to me having two 100w amps blasting through real speakers (underneath the stage, tho ;) ) with nice mic´s. i do some session work, too and I realized that the good old classic 80s rock tone is required more often with the difference that only a few here know how to dial them in. so I feel like one of these dinosaurs knowing how to create those tones even with simplicity approach. mostly I send out wet and dry tracks, so that the client can chose whatever they like. 9 outta ten pick my wet tracks tho. even had chris lord age using one of my solos completely wet the way I recorded them. so I guess you're right...those tones are coming back heavily. funny tho, when I hear all those young cats going crazy on John mayer using chorus on his lead tone, like its a heavily kept secret and the only way to use solo tones from now on which we all did massively more than 20 years ago :)
All I could think of is Van Halen's "Balance" album while you were playing. That's the epitome of that tone in my mind. Lots of good current applications for ambient swells in the modern worship setting. At least that's what I've been doing with my Helix floor and a similar tone. Great video!
I have definitely been loving the stereo chorus and delays from my rack unit that being said I've never been a fan of the "80s sound" but now it's my favorite sound
I think Fractal/helix etc etc and the routing n all in one options allow for these sounds to be possible live a lot easier then they use to be. Its gotta be part of it
Shawn, i think you’d really dig Kristian Larsen as he smokes on 80’s stuff with all the great racked bells and whistles. Much like you, a monster player - total ear candy: ruclips.net/video/fLrkSdjJ4zk/видео.html
Check out Noss tone studio. Lukather himself authored some signature patches for the GT 100, you might find something there or on the Roland V Forums. Cheers! Happy tone hunting!
I’m definitely a fan.. I’ll print the chorus when I send it out but let them choose the ambience. I think it compliments the synth sounds that are making a comeback too.
your brother showed me your rig at Mesa Fountain Valley wired by Brian S. and it was a work of art in the back! to this day the cleanest wiring job i’ve ever seen. mogami, hospital plugs cut to length, ie4, v-twin, think you had a matchless head up top… and was that you with the mullet in the Lab Sound rack demo video from the Buena Park days?!?😁 rack rigs and tylers rule.
Man Shawn, you are a killer player. I hope to have you do some session work some day. I don't record stereo but I use stereo effects live sometimes. I combine vintage and modern to get my tones. I can do the Circular Delays and Ping pong Delays at the same time, in parallel, with my Boss DD 500. For chorus, I use the Suhr Discovery. It sounds huge! The delay goes into an AmbiKab Jr from Komet and my amps stay for the most part dry.
I record two mic lines at a time, and they’re mono each, but I hard pan the results and send them through a set of stereo Eventide effects. Later I will push those to one channel and do a second pass with a different stereo power amp and push those to the other channel. I consider this a LCR method, where there are two 100% pans and there are two 30% pans with the volumes reduced. Once the desired blend is achieved, using the bass dominant speakers for the 100% wide pans and the more detailed mid speakers for the centers, then I will make sure that those aren’t clipping. Usually a limiter on the send. The send goes out to 4 Eventide Harmonizers, of which typically only one is used, but for cleans it can get really complex. For chorus I use a TC1210. For leads I prefer the ADA MP1 sound, because it can chirp and scream in a distinct way, but for the speakers I send through an EL84 Peavey and Alnico Blue, which handles the top end better than ceramics. I still use a collection of preamps, Rockman, Marshall, Mesa, KSR, ADA, and the new Black Widow. They cover a lot of ground, especially when you’re looking for a retro sound. The ADA and Rockman are distinct. Where as the Mesa, KSR, and Black Widow are modern. For me, most everything is recorded mono, but of course. Only a handful of stereo mics exist and they’re more of a room or drum overhead application. But in post process, similar to using plugins, you can do everything there.
Hi Shawn! I remember your guitar rig with Mesa Boogie Mark V, one night when you played at Bogart's in Long Beach, around 1991or2 a phenomenal sound. Never seen anything like it. Hope you can do demos on swells and the sounds on song of the harlot, similar to your demo.
Oh yeah, that was back in the Violet Buring days. Wow!! Long time ago! I think in the studio I used a Mesa Blue Angle with everything on 10 slaved into my big rack.
@@brianwhite6249 My PCM 70 was a 2.0 and it came loaded that way and I was really happy with it. I don't have any experience with v3. The 81 is good but given the choice, I'd stick with the 70 not based on anything more than the fact that I'm happy with that sound.
@@ShawnTubbs Did you use the presets on the pcm70 and program your own or dial in sounds. How did you use the pcm70 with the TC 2290? What midi foot controller did you use? I had a Fractal ax8 running through mesa boogie midi matrix amp control, to allow the ax8 to switch my mesa boogie dual rectifier 3 channel amp, but sold ax8 for pcm81, pcm70 v2 is hard to get, somehow guitarists bought them in past months like candy, but will find one.
But to use the tricera chorus in mono is like playing a James Tyler guitar with one string. Back in the day the unbelievable CS5 dytronic trichorus was combined with stereo pitch detune mixed in parallel to the direct tone into a dual delay (stereo in) and then fed into a lexicon hall in parallel. Kristian Larsen has these sounds ruclips.net/video/L3I6euvvLFc/видео.html and ruclips.net/video/O-rW4o685wY/видео.html Anyway, you are such a great guitar player.
Sounds like you already have it ... what's that you're playing through now? Seems like for recording you have software plugins ... I still have my old and trusty Digitech 1101 rack preamp going into a power amp set up. Sounds massive live and recording. I also use a Mesa Boogie 35w combo (mark 5) with a pedal board and the world's best distortion pedal the EVH with noise gate! You can't beat a pedal board full of BOSS and Keely FX's! Dan Huff's Giant tone is amazing ...
Those tones are sweet, like the Dann Huff sound many of us have been chasing for decades. What I'd really like to know is what are the delay settings if I had the soundtoys plugin and wanted to emulate (steal) that vibe? A question I've been looking for an answer for forever and a day! Any insight would be GREATLY appreciated! Great playing BTW, it so goes without saying that I almost forgot to mention it. Cheers!
Hi Shawn. Greats from Argentina. Can you help me withe recomendations of pedals to close to this tones with pedals. Like you'll know, here is all too expensive. The amp is in the point of break? And wich overdrive/distortion sugest for example? Excuse my english
Absolutely a fantastic video Shawn! I still have my CAE 3+ preamp and Mesa Boogie 2:90 poweramp, and I must say that I love the tones I get. However, I always wanted a VHT 2100 Classic poweramp to use with my preamp because that is what Lukather used back in the day (i.e. listen to the tones Lukather achieved on Toto's Gypsy Train CD). Just curious Shawn what preamp and power amp you used? Thanks so much Shawn for your gift of music.
Hey Sam! The CAE 3+ is killer and the Mesa 2:90 is a fab power amp. The only thing that could possibly top that would be a VHT2100!! I pretty much just used a Mesa 2:90 but I always longed for a 2100. I had a bunch of different preamps from the Mesa Triaxis to the CAE3+. All great stuff!
I have a VHT Classic power amp. (I used to have the 2150.) I also have a Randall RT 2/50 power amp. I run EL-34s in the Randall, just like the 2100 (Classic). And the Randall sounds just as good. (Ok…very close). The VHT is obviously louder, because it’s 120 watts each side and the Randall is 50 watts a side, but other than that, I don’t notice a big tonal difference. The plus with the Randall is that it has the tube biasing points on the front of the amp. It’s user-bias able. No danger, and very easy to do.
I miss those tones, and that type of playing, when Nirvana came out and grunge hit big it basically reset the industry. I love that stuff too, but there no or little wizardry
Shawn, were you working at Lab Sound/Mesa in the Valley(Garden Grove in L.A...if i recall..)in the mid-late 80s? I may have met you there, when I went up there..😅😅 Are you in that VHS demo video they made?
What great tones Shawn. Was the chorus before the delay? I always loved these tones, and only recently put an 80s session tones pedalboard together, its modest gear: mxr super badass distortion, Carl Martin comp/limiter, keeley Dyno my roto tri chorus, boss dd3, tc nova delay, tc HOF reverb, then a cheeky carl martin classic chorus at the end for extra schmo. I just need a better amp than my orange TT lol.
@@ShawnTubbs Thanks for the response! I haven't done much tinkering with delays so this will give me a good starting point to work from for this style of music. Thanks for the inspiration and sharing your knowledge! Much appreciated!!
H3000 🤤, oh I love big racks, soo much fun, now I’m satisfied with a WDW with a pa acting as the wet L&R and a nice amp for the center dry 🤘🏽.. all the wide REVV G20/20/20 mmmmm WDW 🤘🏽just think how many cabs they’d sell 🤘🏽
I also love that "session" sound. But you have to have a certain musical context to complement the song/band. It just doesn´t work with any kind of music in my opinion.
As Lukather once said, the 90s were the decade or the anti-guitar hero. So there was no need for a good tone or uniqueness. The age of mediocrity. Still have my rack. It's awesome!
Hi Shawn, I have a question about this type of sound live: Usually I play with this 5 piece band (with keys and one guitar) and on the last gig I tried wet-dry-wet for the first time. I really loved the sound, but it did not work well with keys, we had too much overlap. Since gigs are cancelled once again, I can not try and get sounds for some time. So my question is: for live use (it’s pop/rock, nothing heavy) what’s you opinion on wet/dry vs stereo vs mono? And would it maybe be an option too switch between mono for accompaniment and stereo-wet/dry for lead? I’m considering this last option after this video of yours, but just curious if you have any experience with it. Thanks in advance.
It is the normal sound in my head. I do not care much about stereo. It is also about the guitar itself sound... I just love all your strats - cannot determine which one I like the most... so I still do not buy one of them :-)
Luke's 90s tone and Landau 's and Huff's are my favoritos of all time
3 GIANTS !!!
3 of my all time favorite players….! Huff is an absolute Legend 👍 Tom Hemby, Larry Carlton and Australias 🇦🇺 Jack Jones are up there amongst those 3 super players…!
ruclips.net/video/LZEJ79_UxOE/видео.html
Love those tones!
2290, 224xl, PCM 70, PCM 42, Prime Time II, Eventide H-3000, Boogie TriAxis.
I’d sometimes come home from the studio, inspired to play.
Plug in, flip on the rack, and suddenly the sun was shining in the window and it was time to go back to work.
Thanks for the memories!
Ahhh, the '80's, glory days! I still believe that decade had the best sounds and mixes in Pop/Rock music.
Just played “Mary Did You Know” this morning in worship with lots of greasy tri-chorus and delay…and I was in heaven.
Nice!
The amp sounds absolutely perfect for this tone!
And Shawn RULES.
I remember meeting you at the Boogie Shop in Fountain Valley around 1995......I was in town from Canada for NAMM, and I bought a Boogie power amp. Your rack was there.....I think it was an Egnater preamp, CAE preamp, 2290, PCM70.....I forget what else....miss those days!
My latest rig has evolved into being a stereo setup, using 2 separate heads, with some pedals up front, and the amp FX sends feeding into an Eventide H7600, and outs go back to the amp returns.....super simple.
Glad to see these tones are coming back...good thing I kept my parachute pants. I sold most of my rack gear to buy the Axe-Fx Ultra 10 yrs ago and I still use that with my amp loaded down and the Ultra in 4cm through my monitors for that type of sound. The stereo spread is addicting!
Yeah, I think it's the big 3D sound that is so addicting!
I love that old tone... As for the three channel spread, I've used it in mixes where I've pulled the spread more into a specific, more narrow location by not using full left-right pan, but rather placing the guitar where I want it and panning delay slightly left and right from the guitar's location. Allows the guitar to have its space, with a bit more "width", without stomping on the other instruments.
Those tones you pulled off on Strength are still some of my favorite guitar tones ever recorded...still love that album!
I grew up in the 70s and 80s i playin stereo i use compressor and overdrives and wah in front of a stereo fender princeton chorus and in the stereo fx loop im using Eq, Boss ce-5, Eventide tricerachorus, Eventide micropitch delay, tc electronic flashback 2 ,HoF reverb all in true stereo. Sounds amazing. Awesome video ! Im also planning on running wet/dry/wet through my jcm2000 sending out in stereo to 2 other amps.
Im 20 years old, i have a 21u rack almost filled to the brim with cool rack gear..getting a second art sgx2000 next week, aswell a ADA MP1 and a second roland gp100
ha I still have an sgx2000! :) I had ALL that stuff in the 80s.
sounded soo good had to watch it hear it again.
Thanks very much!!
*I AM and it sounds AMAZING!*
i grew up on exact these tones, and therefore I chased it a long time with limited possibilities budget wise. at the beginning of the 2000´s I could have not been more outdated with this approach, but still I went for it using several multi effect units like the g system from TC. it did quiet well most of the time for live purposes. but studio wise I´ve been doin mainly rock and metal back in the days , recording in mono with mostly amp distortion and adding fx post. cpl years ago I got a job for a production company that did mainly tv and radio jingles and they had a huge studio with a beautiful adt console and tons of great boutique gear. so I felt like a little kid in a toy store. I got to play all those beautiful Amps with vintage mics and stuff all at my hands at any time. so I got back in the "production" sounds again and loved it. I sneaked it in every now and then in some tv or radio adds. when there was enough room, like you correctly said I used stereo delays, mostly 2290 or pcm 70.s that up to that day are totally out of competition.
the way they sit in and cut trough the mix is just outstanding.
so I ended up gettin myself a stereo rig build with two Marshall heads and a pedal drawer. nothing like the old regrigerator racks that Bradshaw built, but likewise :) I even got bob to create that rig and send me one of his midi switchers, which is awesome. these days im actually touring with this thing with one of germanys biggest pop stars and I couldn't be happier.
everyone is using fractal and Kemper these days so its a joy and pure sex to me having two 100w amps blasting through real speakers (underneath the stage, tho ;) ) with nice mic´s.
i do some session work, too and I realized that the good old classic 80s rock tone is required more often with the difference that only a few here know how to dial them in.
so I feel like one of these dinosaurs knowing how to create those tones even with simplicity approach.
mostly I send out wet and dry tracks, so that the client can chose whatever they like. 9 outta ten pick my wet tracks tho. even had chris lord age using one of my solos completely wet the way I recorded them. so I guess you're right...those tones are coming back heavily. funny tho, when I hear all those young cats going crazy on John mayer using chorus on his lead tone, like its a heavily kept secret and the only way to use solo tones from now on which we all did massively more than 20 years ago :)
All I could think of is Van Halen's "Balance" album while you were playing. That's the epitome of that tone in my mind. Lots of good current applications for ambient swells in the modern worship setting. At least that's what I've been doing with my Helix floor and a similar tone. Great video!
I have definitely been loving the stereo chorus and delays from my rack unit that being said I've never been a fan of the "80s sound" but now it's my favorite sound
Yeah, that sound is great!
That intro sounded like Giant. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Oh yeah, for sure! I was really into DH back then!
Definitely nostalgic about these tones and music
I think Fractal/helix etc etc and the routing n all in one options allow for these sounds to be possible live a lot easier then they use to be. Its gotta be part of it
Shawn, i think you’d really dig Kristian Larsen as he smokes on 80’s stuff with all the great racked bells and whistles. Much like you, a monster player - total ear candy: ruclips.net/video/fLrkSdjJ4zk/видео.html
I'm trying to get that 80's Steve Lukather tone from my pedalboard and using GR5, that tip of the stereo delay is very helpful, thanks!
Thanks for watching!! I think SL used the "circular delays" setting on a Lexicon PCM 70 for some of those sounds.
Check out Noss tone studio. Lukather himself authored some signature patches for the GT 100, you might find something there or on the Roland V Forums. Cheers! Happy tone hunting!
I meant Boss Tone Studio 😳
@@ShawnTubbs Thanks!
I'm glad this came out. It made my day!!
I’m definitely a fan.. I’ll print the chorus when I send it out but let them choose the ambience. I think it compliments the synth sounds that are making a comeback too.
You're my favorite Shawn! keep the videos coming. I wasn't around for the big rack days but that sounds like a lot of fun to be had!
Thanks so much!!!
Got to hear Tom Hemby in the studio with his rack/bradshaw set up in late 90s and it was just so massive
Using that sound at church :) playing in stereo on the Line 6 HD500X multieffect.
I had a few Lexicon PCMs - wish I still had them sounded amazing. But even then I would barely have them in the mix I tend to lean quality vs quantity
your brother showed me your rig at Mesa Fountain Valley wired by Brian S. and it was a work of art in the back! to this day the cleanest wiring job i’ve ever seen. mogami, hospital plugs cut to length, ie4, v-twin, think you had a matchless head up top…
and was that you with the mullet in the Lab Sound rack demo video from the Buena Park days?!?😁
rack rigs and tylers rule.
Never stopped using those sounds since the 80s. Today I'm using the Kemper which has truly excellent stereo chorus and and stereo delay.
Right on! Yeah, that tone is hard to let go of. It's still so gratifying!
AMAZING SHAWN! Knocked it outta the park Again BROTHER!!!
Thanks so much!!
Awesome video! The 80’s guitar sound is so huge. I haven’t been dialing in that sound but I might be diving back in very soon.
Yeah it's a sound worth diving back into for sure!
Love this tone! Im currently going for the same thing with the new Eventide Tricerachorus dot9 pedal and Boss DD-500 in stereo.
Nice!!!
Outstanding episode maestro. I use the Kemper and have various patches to recreate those succulent tones. I want to go stereo cabs.
Lawd that sounds so good!
Thanks Chris!!
Man Shawn, you are a killer player. I hope to have you do some session work some day. I don't record stereo but I use stereo effects live sometimes. I combine vintage and modern to get my tones. I can do the Circular Delays and Ping pong Delays at the same time, in parallel, with my Boss DD 500. For chorus, I use the Suhr Discovery. It sounds huge! The delay goes into an AmbiKab Jr from Komet and my amps stay for the most part dry.
I record two mic lines at a time, and they’re mono each, but I hard pan the results and send them through a set of stereo Eventide effects.
Later I will push those to one channel and do a second pass with a different stereo power amp and push those to the other channel.
I consider this a LCR method, where there are two 100% pans and there are two 30% pans with the volumes reduced.
Once the desired blend is achieved, using the bass dominant speakers for the 100% wide pans and the more detailed mid speakers for the centers, then I will make sure that those aren’t clipping. Usually a limiter on the send.
The send goes out to 4 Eventide Harmonizers, of which typically only one is used, but for cleans it can get really complex. For chorus I use a TC1210.
For leads I prefer the ADA MP1 sound, because it can chirp and scream in a distinct way, but for the speakers I send through an EL84 Peavey and Alnico Blue, which handles the top end better than ceramics.
I still use a collection of preamps, Rockman, Marshall, Mesa, KSR, ADA, and the new Black Widow. They cover a lot of ground, especially when you’re looking for a retro sound. The ADA and Rockman are distinct. Where as the Mesa, KSR, and Black Widow are modern.
For me, most everything is recorded mono, but of course. Only a handful of stereo mics exist and they’re more of a room or drum overhead application. But in post process, similar to using plugins, you can do everything there.
Hi Shawn! I remember your guitar rig with Mesa Boogie Mark V, one night when you played at Bogart's in Long Beach, around 1991or2 a phenomenal sound. Never seen anything like it. Hope you can do demos on swells and the sounds on song of the harlot, similar to your demo.
Oh yeah, that was back in the Violet Buring days. Wow!! Long time ago! I think in the studio I used a Mesa Blue Angle with everything on 10 slaved into my big rack.
Hi Shawn, I have a question. What version of the pcm 70 did you use v2 or v3. If you had a choice between pcm 70 or pcm 81, what do you perfer?
@@brianwhite6249 My PCM 70 was a 2.0 and it came loaded that way and I was really happy with it. I don't have any experience with v3. The 81 is good but given the choice, I'd stick with the 70 not based on anything more than the fact that I'm happy with that sound.
@@ShawnTubbs Did you use the presets on the pcm70 and program your own or dial in sounds. How did you use the pcm70 with the TC 2290? What midi foot controller did you use? I had a Fractal ax8 running through mesa boogie midi matrix amp control, to allow the ax8 to switch my mesa boogie dual rectifier 3 channel amp, but sold ax8 for pcm81, pcm70 v2 is hard to get, somehow guitarists bought them in past months like candy, but will find one.
I'm still running a small rack. 😁
the pedals today replace the rack, but the sounds are great!
But to use the tricera chorus in mono is like playing a James Tyler guitar with one string. Back in the day the unbelievable CS5 dytronic trichorus was combined with stereo pitch detune mixed in parallel to the direct tone into a dual delay (stereo in) and then fed into a lexicon hall in parallel. Kristian Larsen has these sounds ruclips.net/video/L3I6euvvLFc/видео.html and ruclips.net/video/O-rW4o685wY/видео.html
Anyway, you are such a great guitar player.
They have ALWAYS been cool ;D
"Again?" If you've got a Tyler headstock... they always were!
That was tasty
Don’t forget Dann Huff
Sounds like you already have it ... what's that you're playing through now? Seems like for recording you have software plugins ... I still have my old and trusty Digitech 1101 rack preamp going into a power amp set up. Sounds massive live and recording. I also use a Mesa Boogie 35w combo (mark 5) with a pedal board and the world's best distortion pedal the EVH with noise gate! You can't beat a pedal board full of BOSS and Keely FX's! Dan Huff's Giant tone is amazing ...
I like the clean attack you getting on your picking. What kind of guitar pick were you using here?
Those tones are sweet, like the Dann Huff sound many of us have been chasing for decades. What I'd really like to know is what are the delay settings if I had the soundtoys plugin and wanted to emulate (steal) that vibe? A question I've been looking for an answer for forever and a day! Any insight would be GREATLY appreciated! Great playing BTW, it so goes without saying that I almost forgot to mention it. Cheers!
Hi Shawn. Greats from Argentina. Can you help me withe recomendations of pedals to close to this tones with pedals. Like you'll know, here is all too expensive.
The amp is in the point of break? And wich overdrive/distortion sugest for example? Excuse my english
Well... Revv, it's time to consider building a Rack preamp that's includes G2, G3 and G4, Two Notes stereo IR's... Wow.
Hmmmm....
Hi Shawn, can you tell me what pickups are in your Tyler guitar? Sounds amazing, Thanks
Hey Shawn, get Rich to get you a tortoise shell pickguard for your Tyler. It would look amazing!
Absolutely a fantastic video Shawn! I still have my CAE 3+ preamp and Mesa Boogie 2:90 poweramp, and I must say that I love the tones I get. However, I always wanted a VHT 2100 Classic poweramp to use with my preamp because that is what Lukather used back in the day (i.e. listen to the tones Lukather achieved on Toto's Gypsy Train CD). Just curious Shawn what preamp and power amp you used? Thanks so much Shawn for your gift of music.
Hey Sam! The CAE 3+ is killer and the Mesa 2:90 is a fab power amp. The only thing that could possibly top that would be a VHT2100!! I pretty much just used a Mesa 2:90 but I always longed for a 2100. I had a bunch of different preamps from the Mesa Triaxis to the CAE3+. All great stuff!
I have a VHT Classic power amp. (I used to have the 2150.) I also have a Randall RT 2/50 power amp. I run EL-34s in the Randall, just like the 2100 (Classic). And the Randall sounds just as good. (Ok…very close). The VHT is obviously louder, because it’s 120 watts each side and the Randall is 50 watts a side, but other than that, I don’t notice a big tonal difference. The plus with the Randall is that it has the tube biasing points on the front of the amp. It’s user-bias able. No danger, and very easy to do.
Sick Shawn!!!
Thanks Devin! Hope you're doing well!
They were never uncool!
I miss those tones, and that type of playing, when Nirvana came out and grunge hit big it basically reset the industry. I love that stuff too, but there no or little wizardry
It’s always been cool 😉
Shawn, were you working at Lab Sound/Mesa in the Valley(Garden Grove in L.A...if i recall..)in the mid-late 80s? I may have met you there, when I went up there..😅😅
Are you in that VHS demo video they made?
What great tones Shawn. Was the chorus before the delay? I always loved these tones, and only recently put an 80s session tones pedalboard together, its modest gear: mxr super badass distortion, Carl Martin comp/limiter, keeley Dyno my roto tri chorus, boss dd3, tc nova delay, tc HOF reverb, then a cheeky carl martin classic chorus at the end for extra schmo. I just need a better amp than my orange TT lol.
Love those vintage session rack tones! Is that the guitar you used back in those days?
I just finished an 80's style rack rig and I think it may have ruined me, I don't think I'll ever be able to play mono again lol
It's addictive!
Great! Is Tyler the only guitar to achieve these sounds? ;)
Does anyone knows delay settings in this video?
Weren't you also using the Boogie Triaxis preamps too, back then?
I was! I was also using the Bradshaw CAE 3.
seemed like ryan adams brought some chorus tones back on the prisoner album
Yep!
Bradshaw system?
Hey Shawn!! Cool video (I grew up in the 80's so it feels like home!!) Just wondering how you set your stereo delay? Thanks for doing what you do!!
Thanks for watching! For the most part, I set up my stereo delays with a quarter note on one side and a dotted 8th on the other.
@@ShawnTubbs Thanks for the response! I haven't done much tinkering with delays so this will give me a good starting point to work from for this style of music. Thanks for the inspiration and sharing your knowledge! Much appreciated!!
H3000 🤤, oh I love big racks, soo much fun, now I’m satisfied with a WDW with a pa acting as the wet L&R and a nice amp for the center dry 🤘🏽.. all the wide
REVV G20/20/20 mmmmm WDW 🤘🏽just think how many cabs they’d sell 🤘🏽
Hmmmm....
@@ShawnTubbs just tell Derick you wanna try the prototype P20/20/20 🤣
🤞🏽🤞🏽🤞🏽
I also love that "session" sound. But you have to have a certain musical context to complement the song/band. It just doesn´t work with any kind of music in my opinion.
Im use Boss GT5 still best sound is 80's
As Lukather once said, the 90s were the decade or the anti-guitar hero. So there was no need for a good tone or uniqueness. The age of mediocrity. Still have my rack. It's awesome!
Cool again? When did they stop being cool? 😎
Hi Shawn, I have a question about this type of sound live: Usually I play with this 5 piece band (with keys and one guitar) and on the last gig I tried wet-dry-wet for the first time. I really loved the sound, but it did not work well with keys, we had too much overlap. Since gigs are cancelled once again, I can not try and get sounds for some time. So my question is: for live use (it’s pop/rock, nothing heavy) what’s you opinion on wet/dry vs stereo vs mono? And would it maybe be an option too switch between mono for accompaniment and stereo-wet/dry for lead? I’m considering this last option after this video of yours, but just curious if you have any experience with it. Thanks in advance.
Thanks for the question. I would definitely work on dialing in that tone but in a mono configuration so you don't take up too much space.
@@ShawnTubbs thanks man!
It is the normal sound in my head. I do not care much about stereo. It is also about the guitar itself sound... I just love all your strats - cannot determine which one I like the most... so I still do not buy one of them :-)
When haven't 80s sounds been cool? Never!
Rockman, sound engineers had better digital "Racks"
They where never not cool
True.
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