Hi my lovelies! Thank you for giving me a chance to be transparent with you all❤ to clear up the biggest questions I’ve been receiving: 1. None of my content is changing because of this, I’ve been out of teaching for a good bit now. Just waited to tell the story out of respect for my husband and parents who asked me to😊 2. LOL this is the south, there are NO UNIONS here in NC
The North Carolina Association of Educators is a chapter of the NEA and they definitely support teachers in situations like this. I'm so, so sorry for what you went through, though, and I wish you all the happiness in the world!
“People don’t quit jobs, they quit bosses.” This is reflective of so many stories I hear from my teacher friends and the number 1 reason I won’t go back into a classroom full time.
@@ryancorsaut5177 I taught for 27 years and retired because of all the issues she talked about. Loved teaching the kids. I left to save myself. The stress was killing me.
I know it must so tough being a teacher but hang in there. In just twelve short years ( I say short since teachers work just nine months /yr.) you'll be able to retire with a cop's pension. Godspeed.
Former teacher here too. Same song and dance. Parents and admins just suck. But like you, when I finally said enough to teaching after 3 years, I fell right into web development and now make 3x what I did as a teacher with a fraction of the stress. It's amazing and I would recommend it to anyone! Thanks for sharing your story!
good for you! teaching will be obsolete by decades end, they will just keep them home with the ipads and take more tax money for them selves. I am serious, they don't like wasting OUR tax money on education.
you can still be a "teacher" just instead it will be un rewarded by mammon, tho when NEED dang money it can make it hard to work a job and still be a sort of a teacher. when you speak on youtube about stuff (such as TEACHING about how evil kids are today) i think i know why gen X (if count from a-z will find "X" is atualy "W")now the question is why? is it going to be gen "alpha" gen "beta" and gen "vanilla" (alphas being first to be mass plugged into the borg, and therefore is "alpha version 0.1" OR is it going to go alpha beta gamma omega eta? and are they going to skip "xi" like they did for corona virus?
As a middle school student in Florida I know that the education system is falling apart and I know so many teachers that have to literally take all of the time out of their day to cover classes or meet with parents and I feel so bad for them, it’s really sad that this is happening.
Yep. Here in Louisiana, the teachers don’t care anymore and neither does the administration. They play favorites all year. My district is moving to year round school with barely any breaks. The administration doesn’t care about our education anymore. All they care about is controlling us. It’s awful.
You're a cool and aware kid. Try to keep that awareness as you grow up and move forward, but remember this at least: don't let that awareness turn you cynical. Instead, use it to inform you and inspire you to help make the world better in the future. :)
It’s better to not feel sorry for them, since they are manipulating you into feeling that way for them as they continue to brainwash you. Hopefully you will get better soon though.
I had a principal who “forgot” conversations all the time. So many of us began emailing a summary of our conversation to him, regardless how brief or mundane... that way there was always a record that we could refer back to.
I'm an old fart so I remember when email came into regular usage in the 1980s and it made life so much better for the employees (much worse for the bosses). "Hey, employee, this is the boss here, I need you to work on Project 1" Ok, so I did. Later that day... "Employee, why are you working on Project 1? I told you to prioritize Project 2, not Project 1!" Uh, no you didn't, you definitely said Project 1, are you trying to gaslight me? Email ended a lot of these type conversations when employees could point to the email with specific instructions IN WRITING that verified what the actual instructions were. Bosses absolutely HATED this because they could be held accountable.
I’m a student right now, and by watching your teacher content I know what teachers have to deal with, and armed with this knowledge I can choose to not be a part of the problem. That was a blessing. You deserve better than the education system. I’m so happy for you.
I relate to this so hard, I was a new school counselor. Year two a student disclosed some really rough info to me. I contacted all the necessary parties and told the principal that there would be an outside agency coming to interview a student... The principal wanted to know the entire story of what was disclosed in my office. I told a principal that the student requested that I keep their story confidential aside from my report to the outside agency and their parent.... The principal was really angry and confronted me afterward. I then had two impromptu evaluations. My evaluation score plummeted and reflected that I was a poor classroom teacher (I was a counselor so...) I resigned. That experience still haunts me from time to time.
I commend you on respecting the students wishes. I had to watch as my counsellor made a police report on my behalf and just that is distressing enough. The principal was overstepping and you were that students champion. They’ll remember you for a long long time, even if they didn’t know what that principal did. My respect goes to you
@@jonahrobinson5140 According to the code of ethics we are supposed to. Most school counselors have abandoned the, "guidance counselor" title as it is outdated, school officials tend to be behind on this though. We are trained in the same way that a clinical counselor is and fall under the same ethics. Clinical counseling is what I do now. :) For school officials we are to give the minimum information possible to ensure safety and coordinate, but nothing more.
I feel so bad for your students losing you. I'm glad you're able to be a content creator because I love your stuff. I didn't realize a couple of your videos actually happened to you (the annual review).
No doubt in my mind that she understood everything you said on the first attempt. She was just trying to wear you down till you would concede and give her child the grade she wanted.
how would you know that? maybe english was her second language. she was invested in her child and willing to redo every assignment..how is that wearing down to get the grade she wanted?
Please, listen carefully to her entire dialogue. She clearly states within her narrative that the person wasn't failing to understand but instead chose not to. The mother was guilty of being a mother and as such acted entitled. Given that this was only to make up for a four percent deficit from receiving a higher letter mark for failing the primary purpose of the assignment. I would not fault the teacher for not allowing a make-up. Any teacher will tell you that once you start showing favoritism (especially when their are likely failing students that need it much more desperately) everyone (parents especially) feel they are entitled to an unlimited free pass. I've known teachers to offer private tutoring and some schools offer a student retention program that provides peer tutoring. These should have been considered before they placed all the responsibility upon the teacher without taking any accountability for themselves. If I did offer a single opinion it would be... Teachers get shafted and parents almost always get what they want regardless of the situation.
@@fatfurie This teacher would have known and addressed it in the video if English truly was her second language. There is a survey sent out on what languages are spoken at home, admin and teachers would know. And once a teacher is telling you what the student missed from the rubric, the next thing to do is to receive that understanding of the work needed from their child. If the parent would have another native language, the teacher would have known that in advance and provide that information on a platform with translation. If she was invested in her child, why not help the child for future assignments on what they missed instead of demanding for make up work when the student isn’t failing? And how can they invest in their child if they keep telling the teacher they don’t understand how does the child perform better for next time? That’s the first step.
I'm an elementary school custodian. One of the tasks that I have taken on is, to allow the teachers to "cry on my shoulder" after school. I just let them vent, and let it all out. Especially the fifth grade teachers. Those fifth graders can be crazy! :)
Big advice to new teachers: treat the custodians and secretaries with respect and help them when you can. These are the ones that help you when you need it the most.
I honestly started crying when you talked about there being no teacher for the students on the first day you weren't there. I feel so bad for those students but you were completely justified in leaving that toxic school. I swear you will always have your audience because you are such a guenuine, kind person who just radiates joy, I honestly wish all teachers loved kids as much as you.
@@PepeLaRana1 it is this is why teachers are striking, this is why kids are losing out on much needed education, covid caused a loss of education on our youth as is and kids are dropping out of school like flies. They need genuine kind hearted teachers like miss rogers, it's hard as a kid and even teenage to find a teacher we can truly get alone with and enjoy being teached by. So many teachers are leaving their jobs because of issues like this and relocating into similar jobs, no teacher deserves to be pushed like this and no kid should be left without a proper education system
I’m a high school student in NC, and literally a week ago, my math teacher was out and our sub never showed. We got the sub plans, wrote it on the board, did our business, waited an hour, and then went to the teacher next door so we could turn in our attendance. Eventually they got a sub for our sub, who literally went on a five minute rant because I sneezed, the education system is crazy.
I KNOWWW!!! I’m so mad at the county, and everyone negatively involved. Those kids deserve better. She deserves better. Her loved ones deserve better. We deserve better. This country does better. Makes me want to apologize to all my teachers, even the bad ones.
This story is a reminder to always get documentation of conversations. Even when it goes great. That proof of allowance to do tiktok or RUclips on property would have been useful. Also, if your HR department ever contacts you by phone, request anything they wish to discuss with you needs to be given to you in writing, and conversations will be taped. And if you feel retaliation or firing is a possibility hire a lawyer that deals with wrongful termination to go with you. These people forced you to quit. I hope you someday return to teaching. I'm sure many of your past students may agree.
i dont wanna live in a world or work in a place where i have to record my boss' words every time otherwise it means nothing wtf kind of adults are this
Instead of recording your telephone conversations, a recorded zoom meeting is also helpful because it can be instantly shared via the internet. If there's no time or inclination for a zoom meeting, you could zoom yourself having that telephone conversation.
Thats why we always have these assholes having zero respect for women. These momma's boys were enabled by mommy who thinks its appropriate to baby them so God damn much so they think all women everywhere owe them. I know because I used to be friends with someone like that who had the audacity to cause friction between me and my boyfriend.
I recently quit because of a Principal. A violent student broke my wrist and I was blamed. There was no conquences for what he did.After this I was treated so poorly and disrespected, I ended up quiting.
You are my hero! I retired after 32 years of teaching 2 years ago. I remember a very similar summer grading snafu where a parent wanted me to change a grade. I remember being furious, but i did it anyway. Public schools take advantage of good, conscientious teachers. You are awesome in leaving a toxic situation. I stuck it out and slowly lost my self respect after realizing parents are ALWAYS right. I am getting it back through my post retirement singing and singwriting pursuits. Much love sent your way and congratulations on your success and happiness!
My sister has been a teacher for about 23 years and has spent every day of those years convinced she's about to be fired. It is so toxic and it has made her unreasonable and awful to be around. I'm so glad that you got out of the toxic environment instead of letting it change who you are. Be well my friend. ❤️❤️
People get used to living each day like you might not get another day of work. The industry I’m in is environmental/politically volatile. That I’m on a 4 year project today, but tomorrow it could be shut down. You do your best each day and try and prove your value. So if the job goes down the tubes, leadership will help you land on your feet somewhere else. Most people can’t work with that instability.
@@ryancorsaut5177 can u tell me more about your field cause I’m considering environmental projects but it’s seems like your saying it’s not consistent?
@@ryancorsaut5177 can u tell me more about your field cause I’m considering environmental projects but it’s seems like your saying it’s not consistent?
As someone who still would kiss the ground my teachers walk on, because they are the reason I am who I am, I feel so disappointed. There were times I would stay back at school because I didn't want to go back to a lifeless empty house or much worse, the one where fights had become an everyday thing. My teachers were my protectors, school was my safe haven and I am literally in tears watching these amazing people deal with so much. It physically hurts to watch this happen. Teachers deserve so much better! And we need to make sure that they get the better life they deserve.
There’s a couple of teachers that I would do anything for. Looking back, school was my safe haven too because in middle school and high school going home meant nothing but hell. It meant that it would be constant yelling, belittling, and never ending cleaning around the house. In high school the theatre 🎭 department became like my Hogwarts because I was able to be whoever I wanted without being judged and I could see my friends. Rehearsal would start at 5:30, so from 3:30 pm to 4:30 the yelling would start right on time from the moment I sat at the computer table to do some homework before rehearsal. The yelling would involve belittling and trying to get me to always quite theatre. Before I would leave, I would tell my Hispanic dad “I’m going to hogwarts I’ll be back later tonight when it’s done.” I never wanted rehearsal to end, I wanted to sleep at the school like harry would at hogwarts. When theatre would end because of the end of school I hated it. School was my safe haven.
Teachers deserve AT LEAST basic human consideration and understanding. And it is such a shame so many kids have to suffer a low quality education because people can't give even that. I hope that people with insight like yours will revitalize the education system here in the US because lawd do we need it. 😮💨
Exactly, like I don't understand how they don't understand that it's affecting how WE act, then they blame all misbehavior on us, even when it's not us. I don't see many adults as role models at this point. Why? They don't act like role models.😶😑😓
This is my first summer after deciding to end my career as a teacher. I was grieving a little bit the last few days, wondering if I'm making the right decision. Fell upon this video, and the anxiety just came rolling back in hearing your story. 1000% I have made the right decision. And while I know there will be difficult days ahead...it won't be teaching, and that's good enough for me. 😊
@@joesmith9216 And you think that is normal... why exactly? Looks like the 'plan' is to have as many worker drones as is possible, and it appears to be working. Reconsider what it is you're proposing as solution.
It's insane how teachers are treated. Especially in High Schools cause even the kids are shitty to the teachers and can make their life hell so they get it from every direction. I was a huge teachers pet growing up and have stayed friends with a lot of my favorite teachers. They deserve a million times the appreciation and pay they actually get.
Yeah Kentucky Highschooler here. My amazing band teacher was practically bullied into quitting. And the punishments practically didn’t exist. My current new band teacher his phone was stolen and hidden and was actually cracked. A music keyboard was broken and all of these resulted in little to no punishment. It’s awful.
I’m genuinely surprised by many saying this. I graduated back in 2014 I don’t remember ever seeing students treating teachers bad. It was more in elementary and middle school for where saw kids treating teachers like crap. I just changed my mind about teaching. But when I would tell people I’d like to teach hs they would be like “what really?” As if I was crazy 😅 haha
I am a fourth year teacher and this is my last year. Being forced to change grades, fill out endless paperwork on how I am going to raise achievement of students who refuse to do work, and the endless meetings and development where teachers are blamed for everything. They can take their $5.73 an hour (what I actually make based on my pay and the hours I work) and put it in unspeakable places.
Sometimes the admins have the counselors change grades at the office and don't even tell you. When the kid who failed all his classes comes back all gleeful and thanks you warmly.....
Mrs. Rogers, I am a student, and have been watching your videos for a while, I now realize how bad the education system is. My sister is a teacher here in Alabama, and I never knew what she went through, but after asking and showing her your content, she opened up to me. Thank you for helping me to connect with my sister again! Hope life treats you with the best it has to offer!!
As a former 4th grade/middle school Language Arts teacher, this hit so hard. This county lost a fabulous educator. You are passionate, bright, and exactly what students need. I can only imagine how you felt in the midst of each incident. I'm so impressed by your strength and integrity. You are a bright light in this insane world. ❤
As someone who is presently looking for the metaphorical door out of public teaching, this video resonates with me HEAVILY. Bad principals, awful parents, lack of student discipline/accountability, immature coworkers, crappy pay. . . it's just too much.
I was someone who walked out that door. You see the evil corrupt after you leave. And you start to realize how bad our education system is. The best thing you can do is leave the system and find a side-effect way to help children. Private school, tutoring, homeschool groups, parent support, etc. You'll find your path. But the public education system is a disservice to children. It needs to be burnt to the ground and rebuilt.
Damn, it must be like this everywhere in every state. I'm an early retiree and plan to stay that way. Did all of the administrators and parents take a universal course in how to get rid of "these" teachers who are trying to ruin the lives of the "precious" and "innocent" (not) youth in our country?
Same... I'm currently working in a toxic environment as a SPED teacher. Her former situation is my current nightmare. I want to get the eff out of the school I'm working in.
Power tripping Admin in the education system is a huge problem. I worked up to being an admin just trying to follow the rules and make my school a better place. But the twisted shit from higher ups was insane! Purposely making teacher's days awful for fun. It is disgusting. And I could call it out all day. But they had each other's backs and allowed this to continue as long as they got bonuses that took from the teacher's supplies. I had moved up wanting to make a difference. But it was run by toxic assholes.
This is why i don't believe independent school districts should be a thing. they need to be monitored at the county and state level, with independent oversight keeping track of how admin is spending their funding
@@FIRING_BLIND It's municipal education that is very often an issue. Not saying charter and independants can't be bad ( and often times their corruption can be real stinky when it exists ), but municipal admin know every loophole possible to make a teacher's life hell. Because they can. Also their secretaries.
That varies greatly state by state. My district starts at 60k now. I started at 29k in '95 and my pay has quadrupled with our recent 10% raise, but if I had known what it would be like I would not have been a teacher.
But it also shows how fortunate she was in content creation. Most people who just got eligible for monetization usually make no more than $200 their first month.
I had a principal tell me once "You just have to pull up your big girl panties to get through the rest of the year" This was after being targeted all year, and told at Spring Break that they would not renew my contract. I had another teacher in the room with me after I came back from break and she had no idea why they wanted her there. My kids were doing great, and EOY scores were very good.
Wow that principal was just trying to make you stay longer, but it wasnt their choice, it was ur choice to make. Sounds bit like a bully. Im sorry you went through that.
As the son of a teacher, it baffles my mind that grown adults cannot comprehend the basic fundamentals of education, discipline, and internet content. Not understanding how social media works was okay back in 2008, but this is ridiculous. It astounds me that a principal and HR rep can be this dense. I'm glad you found a new and better path. My mom recently retired herself, though primarily for medical reasons.
I think the fundamental issues is people have a fear that content produced by a teacher about teaching related subjects might be construed as being about a child, school, district or co-worker. When you couple that with how ignorant these people are of the actual polices/laws and the horribly written polices of schools/districts, it results in enforcement that is more based on the enforcers interpretation of or lack of understanding on these poorly written polices. Often times schools/districts are unwilling to admit a mistake so they blame the losses on the employees. This is why polices need to be clearly written and cite applicable examples, to remove any ambiguity. So that if an employee wants to know "Can i make content online?" or a administrator needs to know "Can a teacher make online content at school?" they can easily find the answer and understand where the boundaries are. As a new federal employee I spent 3 days reading the Joint-Travel Regulation (JTR) and the Fair-Labor Standards Act (FLSA) to find answers to travel/pay related questions. At the time I didn't understand why the would give the police then cite several examples of how that police was actually applied and at the time i felt the examples just seemed wasteful, like someone was getting paid by the word. Then I had an issue with my nieces school, after contacting several people at the the school and got several different and conflicting answers. I decided "Hey you have read the Federal Acquisition Regulation (FAR), surely the rules cant be any worse that one of the single larges pieces of US Legislation, right?", Holy hell.... These polices are written so they can mean anything the school/district wants them to mean, i never complained about the federal regulations again.
@@Iosifavich nah...they know they don't know what they're are doing and that they are full of shit about education so they fear too much attention will be on these teacher's and that they will eventually talk. Like they are now. However, I was told to never be a teacher by a teacher well over 20 years ago
From one teacher to another that has been through a similar situation.... You lasted much longer than I did. I taught college, won teacher of the year and when I got a 19 cent raise it was my breaking point. I took my class out for drinks during my class time. And never came back after happy hour. Love the channel God bless.
Wow. That's one way to end things. 😅 Good for you though!! I almost became a teacher and the only reason I didn't is because I wanted to take a year off after high school due to mental health (graduated 8th in class with an unweighted 4.0, I needed a break) which meant I didn't qualify for the teaching scholarship. Which meant the 1 year became 3 as I had to save up for school. Was worth it to avoid these horror stories though. 😂
My mom was a language arts and drama teacher for YEARS. While she was teaching, she gained weight, had poor mental health, and physically had HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE due to this type of environment. My dad said at the time it was like "teaching sucked her soul away". and people still ask why there are teacher shortages?
😉👍EXACTLY, BECAUSE THE MORE TEACHERS BEING BULLIED, THE LESS TEACHER THERE WILL BE FOR THE THOSE STUDENTS WHO NEEDS TEACHERS IN SCHOOL🏫 THIS NEEDS TO BE FIXED AND SITUATED!
@@ryancorsaut5177 teachers need to touch grass because they're complaining about toxic work environments and abuse? Really? It seems that YOU need to touch grass
i knew it was bad when i took my kids out of the school system, i always knew the problem was at the top and not with the poor overworked underpaid teachers. this literally breaks my heart, you were clearly meant to teach children, our school systems absolutely suck. its more for obedience training and less about children learning. i now homeschool 5 kids, its hard but i will never send them back.
the straw that boke the camels back for me was when i was targeted and gaslit by a teacher because i didnt have access to an online app for students (no smartphone) and she simply didnt like that i told her no and set a boundary. she then proceeded to make my life, my husbands life and my sons life hell. it was truly aweful and quite frankly scary, scary that i had to leave my child with a hateful evil teacher every day. she is still teaching, i wish i was brave enough to make an issue of it.
I pulled mine out too, 2 kids with autism/ADHD and my oldest was treated so horribly some staff should literally be in jail (and it wasn't the teachers), my youngest never stepped foot in a public school. The day I pulled my oldest was a day they called me, again, to come pick him up because they somehow triggered him again (by doing the total opposite of his IEP) and he was too agitated to go back to class. I walked into the principals office and she said if I only fed my son eggs for breakfast (he hates eggs) then all his troubles would go away....I freaking LOST IT, like full on screaming and telling her how much of an incompetent idiot she was and if only she had managed to pass grade 1 reading and comprehended the IEP that was literally written by a team of medical experts, specifically for my son (this was done after a 6 week inpatient stay where he was assessed and a plan made for him by speech, OT, psych, neuro, social worker, etc) and actually followed it instead of thinking she knew better than a whole team of specialists then we wouldn't be in this mess. When I walked out, my son that was in the waiting room was like GO MOM!!!! It's hard, but I absolutely don't regret it whatsoever, been homeschooling now for 6 years and not going back.
@@catlady9123 I am so sorry that happened to you a similar situation happened to me I have quite a few disabilities physical and I have ADHD, sensory processing disorder and austic traits and when I was in 3 through the beginning 6 grade I went without any of my IEP accommodations and was failing and being pushed through the system while barely passing the grade before below average that was when I was with my father but when I was with my mom I had all of the accommodations that I needed and she made sure of it and I am now in two highschool classes and a honors class in 8th grade and above average in reading and math and thriving
@@catlady9123 I had something similar happen to me too, only I was the kid in the situation. I’ve been diagnosed with Asperger’s syndrome and sensory processing disorder since I was 3 and had an IEP throughout all of elementary school (which was the public school). When I started middle school (6th grade), it was at a private Waldorf school, where I did have an IEP, but my main teacher refused to accommodate my anything. First of all, she didn’t believe that COVID or autism existed, so she thought me and my parents were using it as an excuse for me being lazy (even though I’ve never been less than a straight-A student). She also had to make just about every assignment have drawing or painting in it, even in subjects where it didn’t belong like math or science, and drawing and painting happen to be the two things I’m worst at, so the whole year really didn’t help my already very low self-esteem. She was never outright mean to my face (almost as if it was deceptively so), but according to my parents, she was possibly the worst person they had the (dis)honor of talking to at parent-teacher conferences and also didn’t approve of our lifestyle and basically made my life at school miserable and would only stop when we changed it. Also, in that school, you’re stuck with the same teacher from K-12, so my parents decided to homeschool me, and I couldn’t be more thankful for it. I’m now in 8th grade (or would be if I was in school) and life is much better now! I’m also realizing that I just did a LOT of rambling in this comment (I guess this is what you get when you try to write something at 2:30 AM), so I’m sorry for making you read all this.
I work in a HR and it’s crazy to me that they would’ve called you in without any evidence for the complaints. And it was literally only a complaint from one person. The principal should’ve been the one sitting in HR. That person needs to be fired. I can’t believe amazing teachers, such as yourself and being chased away by this person and yet no one is doing anything to stop him. I’m so sorry you went through this
I taught for 40 years and I have to say that although I loved it most of the time,the stories you tell really resonate.I love that you made another life,better income and have remained resilient and joyous…..well done
My mom was a TA for a disabled school in a large Texas town and she loved working with her kids. But the schools politics got so toxic that she just retired and withdrew her retirement to buy a house so she didn't have to pay rent for the rest of her life. She now baby sits her great grandson for free. I seriously think she would've passed before now if she stayed at that job.
My mom was a teacher for 16 years. I grew up watching what it was like to be a teacher truthfully its a lot I feel so bad for teachers that have horrible work environments bc my mom didn't and she still had a lot of stress constantly. The amount of kids that would disrespect her was disturbing and made me feel bad that she had to deal with this plus her own 2 kids so I made sure that no matter how much I disliked a teacher or if I was mad at my mom that I would try to not make their life any worse because you never know how bad they get treated until you watch it happen.
@@ironfist458 I don't live in America. But the school system is very flawed in Australia as it is in most countries. And I don't know what you mean by the great seperation.
@@Bugs3820 Trust me the whole world will feel the great separation. The mistreatment of dark people will come to an end VERY SOON. The sun is only going to get hotter from here on out.
I walked out after teaching 15 years… was state teacher of the year… because my admin asked why I didn’t give more grades. She insisted it would help bring up some of their grades. Even after I showed her with actual numbers that mathematically when you’re dividing by more assignments, it’s actually more difficult to raise a grade, she said “I think more grades would raise their grades”. So I gave them 2 graded assignments that week. Their calculated averages may have changed slightly but for the most part, their letter grades were the same, except for the kid whose parent was complaining. His letter grade went down. So guess what my next request was from my admin…. Yup, I should drop that assignment.
@@gentlewomanasmr2305 I have no idea what your experience is, but yes, a SpEd kid CAN fail a class or a grade. Sometimes repeating a grade is what is best for them. I can see admin not wanting to fail SpEd kids, because they don't want too close a scrutiny into the IEPs and how the accommodations were made. But absolutely, they get extra help and extra chances that most kids do not get. For good reason. Fortunately, that does not affect the vast majority of kids. Nor does it make teachers' lives miserable. It may not seem fair, but among all of garbage that teachers deal with just in this video, it's pretty minor. And it may mean the difference between an unemployed disabled adult dependent on family and society and a functional adult earning minimum (or low) wages and contributing to their own support. A SpEd kid that only got a diploma because of their accommodations isn't going to be able to trick or deceive an employer into keeping them employed. It will be abundantly clear to their boss what their capacity is, and if it's enough for a low end job, they'll get it and keep it. If it's not, they won't. But the diploma allows them the chance to prove themselves.
Wow! Teacher of the year and you weren't spared from all the admin crazy stuff. Most people have no idea the power and lengths...I'd say MOST administrators go to control and micro-manage with the result of losing good teachers like you.
As a retired high school chemistry teacher (25 years - in 2021) - this is right on point. THIS is exactly why good teachers are leaving the teaching field in droves.
I am sorry for what you went through. Some of those parents are Karens. I am really sad that teachers are quitting. It is a noble field. Teachers deserve respect.
As one of your former teachers (CHS), this makes me so sad that you endured a horrible experience! The profession definitely loss a great teacher. I wish you the best of luck on content creation! 😊
As a former teacher I was frustrated hearing your experience. I'm so sorry this happened! It's very sad that teachers are treated this way. Glad you got out!!!
"Is that two weeks or thirty days? I asked you a question." I love it. ❤️ Good for you! You're an amazing educator. They don't know what they're doing. You deserve all the success in the world with people that value your passion for education.
Narcissists will strut around doing crazy stuff to see who is able to be manipulated and who isn't. Then, for those who give them push back, they will push harder to try and get you to: SUBMIT! You did the right thing and I just LOVE your shiny ✨ spine!!!!
Can we just stop and acknowledge how AMAZING her husband is! THAT IS RELATIONSHIP GOALS! "I don't care we will figure it out I just want you out of that environment because it's toxic " that is amazing extra points for Husband!
After 17 years, my husband is encouraging me to leave also. My mental and physical health has suffered to the point where it’s hard to get out of bed in the morning. I love those kids. It’s very sad but, I honestly think I’m losing years of my life at this point by the stress.
I know what it’s like to teach in a toxic environment. When I left, I was convinced that I would never teach again, because the risk of teaching at yet another toxic place wasn’t worth it. But after the worst of Covid, one of my former mentors from that school who quit a year before I did, asked me to interview for a position and I was pretty much hired on the spot. She answered every question I had about admin, teacher support, pd, etc. I’m almost halfway done with my first year and I’m SO grateful to be at a school with such a strong and supportive admin team. It really does come from the top down. I’m so sorry you experienced that, and also for the residual effects of enduring such toxicity if there is any (I definitely have some defense mechanisms I’m unlearning rn in a healthier environment). You can’t have a long term, sustainable teacher force if you abuse your teachers. Sad to see you go, but happy for your transition towards a better and healthier path.
As someone getting my licensure to teach right now, stories like this are so heartbreaking and scary. I hope that I can find a supportive work environment, and I’m lucky to be in an area with good unions, but I truly hope that the field improves overall to support teachers doing a job they love. It is good to see former teachers finding success in tutoring, content creation, etc, so that worse case scenario I might find an opportunity to move on.
It really does depend on your administration. If they have your back, it is a great job. Mine tend to micromanage and take parents/students’ sides on everything so it’s very demoralizing at times.
It definitely is possible to find a good job! I really like teaching at my school. It isn't perfect (nowhere is), but this issues aren't things that make my job as a teacher harder. I hope I can be a bit of encouragement when there's so many discouraging stories out there.
I graduate in May and am actively trying to fight my fear because god, teaching is just getting worse and worse and I remember all of the strikes from when I was a kid in 2010 and every year after.
This is crazy! I can't believe you lasted as long as you did. I'm a Pre K teacher so I can relate to the whole admin/ parent situation. Too much stress!
I'm a teacher with a very supportive administration. I set the same email boundaries, and I don't grade on my personal time. Listening to your story, I am livid for you. I'm sorry that your principal and HR were so unreasonable, and I'm glad that you were able to get out and do something you love while also raising awareness about the conditions that teachers work in. Thank you for sharing your story.
My 8th grade class made the student teacher cry every day until the point she quit. She was such a good and lenient teacher but they took full advantage of her and her kindness. I've talked to her outside of school about it and the students made her not want to be a teacher anymore. So sad, truly one of my favorite teachers I've had.
To put this into perspective, what would the workplace be like for most people if all industry were nationalized and then the government passed a law compelling everyone to work for state owned enterprises in effect making it illegal to loaf or be unemployed at any time, merely to save having to pay unemployment insurance? Naturally, you would have chaos since management wouldn’t be able to fire anyone for cause. That, in a nutshell, is what the public schools are like since the students are permitted to heckle people like student teachers and substitute teachers much as if they were actually comedians who were bombing with a comedy club audience. This is the absurdity of public education. Which is why no one should waste their time teaching public school.
My 8th grade science class made our teacher cry because she had cancer earlier in her life and she had a plaster mask thing that was used during her radiation therapy and kids were BULLYING her because of that.
@@AshleesBathroom Oml, kids are ruthless. Especially like 7th-9th grade bc every single one realize no adult can make them do anything. Something needs to change but what that is I have no idea
Son of a teacher here. I cannot tell you how many times, especially in my mom's last 5-7 years of teaching, that she came home upset or complaining about the job. Its just not fair how teachers have been downplayed, humiliated, chastized and kicked around over the years. I genuinely dont know how my future kids will fare going forward. Mrs Rogers, you are so fun to watch. I hope you keep doing what you do. I enjoy the tuesday special every week (especially since thats what got me hooked on the channel.) Seriously, youre awesome!! Side note regarding the anti semitism thing at the end: i dont get why all the jewish hate. A jewish girl I dated told me that all they want is to be left alone. And yet, theyre always blamed for everything. I dont get it 🤔🤔🤔
Yes, antisemitism doesn't make sense. The origin is indeed the rise of Christianity. Societies were really homogenous back then (middle Ages). So Jews were a minority in Europe. They were used as scape goats. When people were getting ill it was said that Jews must have poisoned the wells. Jews lived close to each other because they had to be near a Synagoge. That's probably why they sometimes didn't get sick while other parts of town had outbreaks. Christians and Muslims weren't allowed to charge interests when leding money. So Jews took on that role (which helped the economy). But that's were the stereotype of the money loving Jew comes from. Antisemitism became a problem in the middle east when the State Isreal was founded after WW2. Nowadays in the US it's similar to the middle Ages. Conspiracy theorists just make stuff up. Saying Jews are the super rich elite that want to rule the world.
For those interested: the principal in question (Ian Solomon) no longer works at that school (Leesville Road HS). He retired in July 2023. So hopefully the new principal (a woman named Shejuanna Jacobs) will be a better & more empathetic employer and the teachers there will no longer have to live in fear. 😊
I was riveted for 43 and a half minutes. So many triggers, weirdly in a good way! My dad was an elementary school teacher until the day he died (back when teachers were treated like humans) I dreamed of being a teacher since before Kindergarten. I raised my large family then finished school and started teaching. I left teaching after 2 years and I’m still working through the trauma. Thank you for this hugely validating video ❤️
Yeah I was livid the whole time to like If I was in Rebecca’s situation I WOULD HAVE NOT been so professional for that long I wouldn’t have been able to do it
I relate to this so much. I made it a year as a teacher and left with severe anxiety and pissed. I taught 7th grade science, chemistry, physics, geography, and biology in the course of ONE YEAR. I remember I had one incident where if my students didn't turn in their assignment the day it was due, I just instantly put in a zero until they turned it in and I could compute the late points. I figured this made it easier for me and also alerted parents to an issue. A few parents FREAKED OUT at little Jimmy's grade falling (why didnt little Jimmy turn in his homework, how is this my fault??) and my administration told me to just leave the grades blank until the assignments were turned in..... okaaaaaay. So I do that and one of my students just didn't turn in assignments like all semester. I had like 150 students and was a brand new teacher drowning - I didn't even notice to be honest because it wasn't computing his grade anymore!! Towards the end of the grading period I went through and filled in all the zeroes, and low and behold suddenly out of nowhere he had like a 32. His dad called me screaaaaming, multiple times. I remember sitting in my classroom shaking. I felt so set up to fail and confused. It's been like 6 years and I still get kind of upset about it. This is just one of dozens and dozens of instances of my administration telling me to do frankly stupid things then not backing me up at all.
What happened to the rule, at least in North Carolina, that a teacher couldn't teach more than one class outside of their field? At least I know this was a rule in the 1980s.
I'm so sorry for your experience. How administrators can even justify their jobs is beyond me. I've always thought that administrators were there for support of the school AND the teachers but after hearing story after story it's just not true. Why do they cave so quickly to the parents ? Cowards plain and simple.
@@lauralangham9657 Some are and some aren't. I've had the chance to work with a great, very supportive principal as well as the opposite, and the mediocre in-between.
When you said you made more money content creating right off the bat I literally yelled “you go girl!” I went to school to be a teacher, I have a degree, but I never passed EdTPA, which means in my state I didn’t get my teaching license. I’ve been working in childcare instead. And the more I follow teachers on Instagram, the more I don’t want to go get my teaching license. There are so many horror stories. That doesn’t mean that I won’t try some day, but I’m comfortable where I am at currently 🤷♀️
I also majored in Education but wasn't certified in the state I lived in. I took a job programming computers to earn money to go back to school and just stayed in tech No regrets.
I'm in the UK but in the same position, I've got my Qualified Teacher Status but haven't done my qualifying years yet, I've worked as a TA for two years and am now applying to do play therapy instead, I've heard so many bad experiences from teachers in recent years I don't want to do it anymore
I also have a degree in education, but haven’t taught. (Plan was to raise my babies and then maybe teach when they were all in school. ) I decided last summer I’m going to let my certificate lapse. Between teachers I know and teacher’s stories on different platforms, I don’t think I want to teach.
I feel this so much too. One of my biggest complaints against me was the bathroom situation. We're in a Title I middle school and we couldn't let students go to the bathroom individually. If they went to the bathroom individually, they would graffiti it, rip the soap dispensers out, and clogged the toilets purposely. So we had to set up a system so we all took the students as a class to the bathroom. So I would have to stand by the boy's bathroom door to make sure they weren't doing anything inappropriate. Then the parents started complaining. Having an adult stand by the door, supervising the kids so they don't vandalize the bathroom, felt "predatory" to these parents. However, if I wasn't there to physically monitor the kids, they would clog the toilets with hot wings from lunch. So damned if you do, damned if you don't.
If this were me I would not have lasted that long. I struggled to finish the video because I was just so beyond frustrated on your behalf. I admire your persistence and the love you had for your students. The American school system isn’t working, but individual people just suck. I am so happy you’ve been able to build a community you can turn to. You did not deserve any of what happened and I hope only the best for you! 😊❤
Oh Rebecca! I had to watch this in parts because it was very triggering for me. I retired after seventeen years as a special educator. Sadly, your experience is replayed in endless iterations in the lives of other mistreated professionals. You were smart enough to get out early and you are young. I was a career switcher and felt trapped because I entered the field at such a late age. Such an irony that a field seeking to enlighten should be one of abuse.
@@carolsheridan3357 I am so sorry to hear that😟😔. It certainly is a rotten way to retire. It has been 3 years now and I still go down the rabbit hole when someone awakens those memories.
Jeez Ms. Rogers. I was one of your students in your second year of teaching. Even though i failed your class cause i fell asleep all the time you understood me and you were my best teacher at the time. Even though we barely had a connection i feel very bad that that bully was putting through all of that and you deserve so much better. I wish you so much luck
The fact that principal is in a position of power and got away with so many horrible things and it sounds like gaslit so many teachers boils my blood. Like with all we heard about this principal just from this video;; how did the principal even get the job? Sounds like it was because he knew people and that’s the only reason. It’s just so frustrating and I’m glad that your RUclips videos and everything else has become so popular. You’re an amazing person Mrs. Rogers and I’m glad I get to watch your amazing content.
Rebecca, from the stories you shared about your students, it’s clear that you’ve made a huge and positive impact on their lives and that they’re proud to have been students of yours.
Honestly I'm also a student and this shows me just how much teachers tend to go through. I'm glad you're giving insight into what teachers have to deal with. Students really need to respect teachers more and I hope they do.
Those evaluations do matter... As you said, they matter when you go to another school. They also matter if you want to get get recourses from the district for a project ("Oh we heard about you and we think you should probably focus on your teaching."). They also matter when you get a new principal. They also matter if you have a gossip(y) secretary (more common that it should be). They also matter as your principal continues your evaluation process; he or she will look at those evaluations to justify their current distorted perception of you. Finally, they also matter to your own mental heath. Being criticized for something that was in no way dysfunctional, is hurtful. A hurt you didn't earn or deserve. LOVE THIS VIDEO!
Wow. I found myself getting heated as you told your story and had literal tears running down my face by the end. My mom was a teacher’s assistant in a school for over 20 years. She was bullied and gaslit by a principal too. I was so relieved when she retired and came to work in our family business with my dad and I. It’s a shame that so many wonderful teachers have no choice but to leave the profession. Good for you for putting yourself first, and shame on your principal and county HR/admin for not doing everything they could to create a positive and supporting work environment for talented individuals such as yourself.
I’m a college student hoping to become a teacher and you and the TOD podcast have really opened my eyes to the struggles I’m going to face as a teacher. I’m sorry teaching didn’t work out for you at that school and I truly hope you find more great opportunities in your path Becca💛
Oh my gosh!!! This is my story also! I was a Special Education teacher for 29 years. I loved teaching my students in the Autism Spectrum, Downs Syndrome, and other disabilities. During my last 8 years of teaching I hated going to school. It wasn’t my students but the lack of administrative support and being told I wasn’t doing a good job. Now, mind you the administrators did not have any Special Needs background. I asked them what it was that I needed to improve on. They said I needed to give more opened ended questions!😳 WHAT?!?!? I’m teaching students with very specific needs and cognitive ability! This went on for several years. I went from excellent to needs improvement! I began to feel sick every day. I felt as though I was experiencing PTS every day I was there. I went to see my doctors and the results came back I had diabetes. It came on with all the stress I was experiencing at work. I was mentally, emotionally, and physically exhausted every day. After that I turned in my 2 years for retirement! The doctors told me to quit, get a different job, or I could die. I didn’t attend the district and the high school retirement dinners. I’ve been retired for 7 years and I’m so happy! I will never teach again! I didn’t even renew my teaching certificate!
Hi Rebecca. I'm a teacher. I just want to say that I love your content and it was been instrumental in my ability to cope with the BS of the career that we have both mutually dealt with over the years. First off, I am sorry and sooooo empathetic with what you went through in your teaching career. I have dealt with similar things, but nothing to the caliber that you have dealt with. It truly sounds like a school from hell. Secondly, I have an insane amount of respect for you. This story you shared is so inspiring. Do what you want to do, eff the system. I do FIRMLY believe we have lost a great teacher. Maybe you'll come back later (hopefully in a state/system that can respect you), but until then, you have my support as a fan. Keep being awesome.
I'm retiring at the end of this school year. It is with great excitement that I leave the teaching profession. I wish I had done something else with my life. Thank you for your videos. You provide humor in a humorless profession. It's time for me to start living and get as far away from education as I can. 😊
Sir, if you are retiring from this position then you have taught for many years. The kids you taught have gleaned insight of knowledge from your prospective. Without you this would never had happened. To say you wish you would have done something different is silly. Those lives you touched went on to do amazing things. Remember that.
Girl, administrators and parents can be a pain in the foot. I've been a teacher for 15 years. I have many stories about admin. I got totally burned out. I quit teaching and now I sub. Couldn't be happier.
Because these parents love their own egos more than anything else. If their kid isn't performing well in school that's a mark on them and so they get upset at the nearest person who's not related to them and label that person (usually a teacher) as the cause.
I appreciate that you told us your story. My husband(a middle school history/math teacher and then middle school assistant principal) was fortunate to teach in a private school that was wonderful. He decided to go into administration. His first job was in a school district with a wonderful Principal who had years of experience. She was a great mentor. But the Superintendent was awful. Every administrator was stressed under him. My husband decided to move to a different district when his mentor retired. New school was great and under a supportive Superintendent. Then that Superintendent retired. And in came the Superintendent from heck. She was on a power trip. She found issue with every administrator that she didn’t personally hire. My husband’s last straw was when he was reprimanded for reporting an incident to law enforcement and Department of Children’s Services AS REQUIRED BY LAW before telling her about it so she could investigate first. WHICH IS AGAINST STATE LAW! This is how schools would get in trouble because they would try to cover up this sort of thing. My husband refused to sign the reprimand. So she fired him. He sued. The district had to pay his full salary for the almost full year he was out AND had to pay his lawyer fees. He won but he didn’t want to go back. He has no regrets.
OMG live this. Our stories are so similar!!! Crazy. I left a bully, toxic environment, and an administrator who couldn’t recall what was said one day to the next. Your video had me laughing and also sympathetic to how you, and many our treated. Like you, I’m fortunate to have the ability to walk away. Best of luck in your professional job going forth.
Omg this was so triggering! I am a third year teacher and this job is so much worse than I ever knew, even while knowing that teachers were underpaid and overworked before. I am fortunate to have kind, supportive admin for the most part. However - the parents, the work load, the system overall that chooses to prioritize the wrong things constantly .. cutting positions, having no support, endless pointless busy work (30 hours of compliance training every year that is exactly the same!?), and the list goes on - as you know. And then to be talked down to and manipulated when you voice your frustrations or concerns.. it’s just too much for anyone to handle. We need to burn the whole system down and rebuild it before there are no good teachers left.
🙌🏼☝🏻 100% agree!!! I’m also in my third year of teaching and am planning on this being my last year. I’m wanting to open a daycare! I decided this year that enough is enough. When I wake up every morning not wanting to go to work and so unhappy that it’s starting to affect my family is where I draw the line. I love my kids and will miss them!
I completely respect your decision to quit teaching. Your job was so hard. I just hope you didn't quit school tiktoks. Now you have time to relax and spend time with Avery. You made the right decision. 😁😁😁👩🏫👩🏫👩🏫
I wanted to be a teacher my whole life. I had a child early so it wasn’t until I was in my early 20s I went back to school to become a teacher. While I was in school I worked in a daycare with a few retired teachers and was told by them all to not do it. This was about 14 years ago. I dropped out and stayed working for daycares and preschool until Covid hit. Now I’m a waitress but I wouldn’t give up those years teaching preschool for anything.
I'm sad for the students who will miss out on you being their teacher because you are the type of teacher kids deserve but I am so glad that you are adding your voice to the dialogue to advocate for teachers like myself. You made the right choice by leaving a toxic work environment and putting your effort into something I feel is doing the rest of us teachers the most good.
Im so glad you have such a supportive husband ! That is so important. You can’t let abuse go on in the work place drama must remain out of the work place yet it’s the main place it boils. Keep doing you! You got this. 😊😊
After teaching for 34 years I was able to retire. I had many similar interactions with school administrators. The kids are great, I loved teaching, the adults are crazy. I love your content. Thanks for making this video, most people don't have any idea what teachers go through every day.
As someone who wanted to be a teacher and realizing it's not what it's cracked up to be, this helps a lot. I guess working for yourself really is the best outcome.
you STILL can be a teacher, just go and be a teacher, rogers is still "teacher" (shes just teaching on yt instead rockerfellers schools) its why i stopped going to therapy becuase 95% the time i was TEACHING the therapist and NOT the other way around, why am I paying 100$ to speak to someone on a computer screen that only dose it becuase they are paid too when can just hang out in hl2dmrp and talk to peaople for free (and also be able to unalive eachother [in game] if anger eachother instead casusing sucide IRL) prettymuch everyone that dose play aggrees its much better than VR chat (can only hang out cant break locks and slay eachother, so they then drive peaople to unalive themselves irl)
I’m currently studying to be a high school teacher and I’m keeping all of these stories in mind to know what to look out for when I start teaching. Thank you for all that you do
Have a Plan B for another job if you decide to leave teaching. Use the summer to work at it or develop experience. I know a new teacher that worked as a Substitute for a while and quit. He is the custodian at the school now and enjoys it way more. Stories like that aren’t unusual. Find a rural county where there might be a more traditional environment with fewer schools and smaller class sizes. Just a thought. Teaching in the right environment can be wonderfully rewarding and a super career. In the wrong situation it can be terrible and stressful. Try Substituting to get your feet wet so to speak and learn the “lay of the land”. You may have to see where you fit best, elementary, middle school or HS. I have taught 10 years in elementary and then worked in construction and real estate the remainder of my life, but still taught in other fields. I was an Assistant Scoutmaster, teaching Scout skills and Merit Badges, taught night school at a college, and was even a Certified Flight Instructor. I even did some Substitute teaching in our local school system. The students need and deserve good quality teachers. Find the position and place that works for you. If you love teaching there should be a good spot out there somewhere that fits for you. Good luck!
Also on the road to become a teacher. One thing to look out for, if you are applying to a school, do some detective work. Look up reviews, articles, local pages, and make sure you aren’t entering a crazy work environment
I would highly suggest not majoring in education. The cost of the degree is often 5 years worth of salary and it isn’t as marketable to other fields of work as you might think. Want to be a math teacher? Get an engineering degree or business degree. You can still teach but have other options as well. Teaching degrees are good art he master level only.
@@Erin-ce2wj I’m majoring in Agriculture Education. I’m going to be a high school agriculture teacher, so the system works a little differently for me, but I appreciate the advice.
@@Corinthians1614 Great advice. I’m currently working with a few schools and learning from their teachers to give me an idea of how their programs work. It’s giving me a good map of where the good school are in my area.
I used to be a high school teacher and I left because of: 1) parents, 2) principal that is unsupportive and wants to please every parent. That principal bullied me too and to this day, 5 years later, I am still sick because of the stress/burnout I had because of that principal. I am so sorry you experienced that. I am happy for you that you are able to thrive doing content creation! ❤ You sound like a great person and great teacher! They did not deserve you!
Thanks so much for all you have done for so many and thank you for discussing appropriate boundaries in our career. I empathize so much with what you experienced experiencing very similar struggles during the same time period. Like you, I was effectively forced out of the field by demands like those from parents and principals on my time, but I am a pilot now! I hope your future looks as bright as the growth you have encouraged in the lives of many! Grace & Peace
GIRL. Your principal sounds a lot like the one I had! 🙃 I taught 6-12 band/choir in a Title 1 school near Detroit for 2 years and had many similar experiences with wacky scheduling, parents running the place, and bully admins. I quit in 2016 then went to MSU for my masters, now I work in nonprofit for a symphony! If you’re ever in Detroit sometime let’s go grab a coffee. ❤❤❤
Good for you doing this, people who stay complacent give toxic people the “reassurance” they can keep doing what they are doing. You set a strong example of what happens when work creates toxic boundaries. I know you made the right decision and I am proud of you!
People don't quit jobs, they quit bad bosses!! Administrative integrity is a pre requisite for a truly successful school. (From a retired teacher with over 35 years experience)
I had exactly this set of admin. I put up with it for years, because usually I kept my head down and they only came in my room twice a year for observation. However, this year was my camel-back breaking straw. There’s too much to go into here, but at the end of the year they were actually surprised that I didn’t sign my contract. Now I feel that I should go back and thank them, because I applied to teach for the DoD in Europe, and my husband and I leave mid August for four years. Can’t wait! And if that admin team were just slightly less awful, I would never have had this opportunity.
@lynndee455 - I just watched this video and saw your comment. I'm considering going the DoD route as well, how is it going for you? Is there any advice you could give for the application/interview process?
I am in my 40’s and started teaching in 2019. I left my first autism charter after 4 months due to toxic admin, the second one after 14 months due to toxic admin, and the final one I flat out refused to sign a bogus write up and was fired for insubordination. The fine for quitting w/o notice there was $5000, so I saved myself some money. I was also eligible for unemployment since they discriminated against me for my disability. Teaching was the worst career choice I could have possibly ever made. The kids loved me and had fun with my lessons and experiments. However, I have found that the admins are absolutely toxic, unreasonable, and disrespectful.
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Hi my lovelies! Thank you for giving me a chance to be transparent with you all❤ to clear up the biggest questions I’ve been receiving:
1. None of my content is changing because of this, I’ve been out of teaching for a good bit now. Just waited to tell the story out of respect for my husband and parents who asked me to😊
2. LOL this is the south, there are NO UNIONS here in NC
Pin! :)
By the way you deserve way better then what they did to you
The North Carolina Association of Educators is a chapter of the NEA and they definitely support teachers in situations like this. I'm so, so sorry for what you went through, though, and I wish you all the happiness in the world!
How long ago did you quit
Who was the teacher?
“People don’t quit jobs, they quit bosses.”
This is reflective of so many stories I hear from my teacher friends and the number 1 reason I won’t go back into a classroom full time.
And some people are just quitters…
@@ryancorsaut5177 I taught for 27 years and retired because of all the issues she talked about. Loved teaching the kids. I left to save myself. The stress was killing me.
A lot of my coworkers are sick of our company but we have been sticking around because we have a great boss. When he retires......
@@cherylburnett3277 You can’t handle regular work related stress. And yet people call teachers “heroes”. Lmao.
People quit jobs all the time not bosses as well.
We lost an amazing teacher from the educational system. So sad.
Can you call it edu system in the US?
@@Mimimo02 huh?
@@Mimimo02 oooo wait I’m stupid
@@Mimimo02 why?
@@Mimimo02 Not when they continually keep running off the good teachers like her!!
As an 18 year veteran teacher, I couldn't look away but my eyelid was twitching and my anger was rising. Rebecca, you made the right choice.
I know it must so tough being a teacher but hang in there. In just twelve short years ( I say short since teachers work just nine months /yr.) you'll be able to retire with a cop's pension. Godspeed.
Agreed
@@harvestmoon_autumnsky what can you get done with the twitching eyelid you cannot??????
Former teacher here too. Same song and dance. Parents and admins just suck. But like you, when I finally said enough to teaching after 3 years, I fell right into web development and now make 3x what I did as a teacher with a fraction of the stress. It's amazing and I would recommend it to anyone! Thanks for sharing your story!
Hi! Did you need some training on web development? Curious. 😊 Thanks!
Yes please share
good for you! teaching will be obsolete by decades end, they will just keep them home with the ipads and take more tax money for them selves. I am serious, they don't like wasting OUR tax money on education.
I'm sorry. Teachers have little support and almost no power anymore.
you can still be a "teacher" just instead it will be un rewarded by mammon, tho when NEED dang money it can make it hard to work a job and still be a sort of a teacher. when you speak on youtube about stuff (such as TEACHING about how evil kids are today) i think i know why gen X (if count from a-z will find "X" is atualy "W")now the question is why? is it going to be gen "alpha" gen "beta" and gen "vanilla" (alphas being first to be mass plugged into the borg, and therefore is "alpha version 0.1" OR is it going to go alpha beta gamma omega eta? and are they going to skip "xi" like they did for corona virus?
As a middle school student in Florida I know that the education system is falling apart and I know so many teachers that have to literally take all of the time out of their day to cover classes or meet with parents and I feel so bad for them, it’s really sad that this is happening.
Yep. Here in Louisiana, the teachers don’t care anymore and neither does the administration. They play favorites all year. My district is moving to year round school with barely any breaks. The administration doesn’t care about our education anymore. All they care about is controlling us. It’s awful.
You're a cool and aware kid. Try to keep that awareness as you grow up and move forward, but remember this at least: don't let that awareness turn you cynical. Instead, use it to inform you and inspire you to help make the world better in the future. :)
Yeah, my 3rd period teacher told me he deal with 180 students a day- and I hear people talk bad about him.
@@Iamdeadinsid142 that’s less than an average teacher
It’s better to not feel sorry for them, since they are manipulating you into feeling that way for them as they continue to brainwash you. Hopefully you will get better soon though.
I had a principal who “forgot” conversations all the time. So many of us began emailing a summary of our conversation to him, regardless how brief or mundane... that way there was always a record that we could refer back to.
Sounds like he has early dementia.
@@sharonblevins3281 nope. He was just “special “.
I'm an old fart so I remember when email came into regular usage in the 1980s and it made life so much better for the employees (much worse for the bosses).
"Hey, employee, this is the boss here, I need you to work on Project 1"
Ok, so I did.
Later that day...
"Employee, why are you working on Project 1? I told you to prioritize Project 2, not Project 1!"
Uh, no you didn't, you definitely said Project 1, are you trying to gaslight me?
Email ended a lot of these type conversations when employees could point to the email with specific instructions IN WRITING that verified what the actual instructions were. Bosses absolutely HATED this because they could be held accountable.
Every manager ever has “forgotten” conversations. capitalism, am I right?
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I’m a student right now, and by watching your teacher content I know what teachers have to deal with, and armed with this knowledge I can choose to not be a part of the problem. That was a blessing. You deserve better than the education system. I’m so happy for you.
Wow,
Now that's a heathly comment :)
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Thank you! On behalf of all of your teachers!!
Yeah I’m a student too and I think we should do our best to make our teacher’s lives as easy as possible
I relate to this so hard, I was a new school counselor. Year two a student disclosed some really rough info to me. I contacted all the necessary parties and told the principal that there would be an outside agency coming to interview a student... The principal wanted to know the entire story of what was disclosed in my office. I told a principal that the student requested that I keep their story confidential aside from my report to the outside agency and their parent.... The principal was really angry and confronted me afterward. I then had two impromptu evaluations. My evaluation score plummeted and reflected that I was a poor classroom teacher (I was a counselor so...) I resigned. That experience still haunts me from time to time.
I commend you on respecting the students wishes. I had to watch as my counsellor made a police report on my behalf and just that is distressing enough. The principal was overstepping and you were that students champion. They’ll remember you for a long long time, even if they didn’t know what that principal did. My respect goes to you
Isn't it illegal to disclose that information without consent? Like you could literally lose your licence as a best case scenario.
@catlady9123 I don't think a guidance counselor would be held to the same standard as a professional that needs to uphold patient confidentiality.
@@jonahrobinson5140 According to the code of ethics we are supposed to. Most school counselors have abandoned the, "guidance counselor" title as it is outdated, school officials tend to be behind on this though. We are trained in the same way that a clinical counselor is and fall under the same ethics. Clinical counseling is what I do now. :)
For school officials we are to give the minimum information possible to ensure safety and coordinate, but nothing more.
As a student with a rough homelife, you are a godsend. I hope that principal gets whats coming to them and I hope you find success with a better boss
I feel so bad for your students losing you. I'm glad you're able to be a content creator because I love your stuff. I didn't realize a couple of your videos actually happened to you (the annual review).
I love your vids I’ve been going through some of the same things but I’m in the service business and u just inspire me
just want to say, I thought your profile picture was SSSniperwolf for a sec, lol
Exactly the children are stuck and can’t quit :(
it's crazy because this is genuinely impacting an entire generation of future adults
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this is exactly why home schooling is on the rise.
PLEASE SUE THEM! Don’t let them get away with this!
Amen
Double Amen
Triple amen
I don't think she can because of the teachers union
SUE SUE SUE
No doubt in my mind that she understood everything you said on the first attempt. She was just trying to wear you down till you would concede and give her child the grade she wanted.
how would you know that? maybe english was her second language. she was invested in her child and willing to redo every assignment..how is that wearing down to get the grade she wanted?
Please, listen carefully to her entire dialogue. She clearly states within her narrative that the person wasn't failing to understand but instead chose not to. The mother was guilty of being a mother and as such acted entitled. Given that this was only to make up for a four percent deficit from receiving a higher letter mark for failing the primary purpose of the assignment. I would not fault the teacher for not allowing a make-up. Any teacher will tell you that once you start showing favoritism (especially when their are likely failing students that need it much more desperately) everyone (parents especially) feel they are entitled to an unlimited free pass. I've known teachers to offer private tutoring and some schools offer a student retention program that provides peer tutoring. These should have been considered before they placed all the responsibility upon the teacher without taking any accountability for themselves. If I did offer a single opinion it would be... Teachers get shafted and parents almost always get what they want regardless of the situation.
@@fatfurie This teacher would have known and addressed it in the video if English truly was her second language. There is a survey sent out on what languages are spoken at home, admin and teachers would know. And once a teacher is telling you what the student missed from the rubric, the next thing to do is to receive that understanding of the work needed from their child. If the parent would have another native language, the teacher would have known that in advance and provide that information on a platform with translation. If she was invested in her child, why not help the child for future assignments on what they missed instead of demanding for make up work when the student isn’t failing? And how can they invest in their child if they keep telling the teacher they don’t understand how does the child perform better for next time? That’s the first step.
I'm an elementary school custodian. One of the tasks that I have taken on is, to allow the teachers to "cry on my shoulder" after school. I just let them vent, and let it all out. Especially the fifth grade teachers. Those fifth graders can be crazy! :)
You do good work! Bless u!
I feel you
Thank you for doing that. The night shift custodians at my school are seriously my best friends there. I know them better than I do my own colleagues
Thank you for doing this. Teachers take so much bull shit like she said in this video.
Big advice to new teachers: treat the custodians and secretaries with respect and help them when you can.
These are the ones that help you when you need it the most.
I honestly started crying when you talked about there being no teacher for the students on the first day you weren't there. I feel so bad for those students but you were completely justified in leaving that toxic school. I swear you will always have your audience because you are such a guenuine, kind person who just radiates joy, I honestly wish all teachers loved kids as much as you.
It’s not that deep
@@PepeLaRana1 it is this is why teachers are striking, this is why kids are losing out on much needed education, covid caused a loss of education on our youth as is and kids are dropping out of school like flies. They need genuine kind hearted teachers like miss rogers, it's hard as a kid and even teenage to find a teacher we can truly get alone with and enjoy being teached by. So many teachers are leaving their jobs because of issues like this and relocating into similar jobs, no teacher deserves to be pushed like this and no kid should be left without a proper education system
@@AstrixHasFallen Teachers strike because they are entitled divas. The perennial C+ students want to be treated like elites. Lol.
@@PepeLaRana1 and you are part of the problem. Simple as that.
I’m a high school student in NC, and literally a week ago, my math teacher was out and our sub never showed. We got the sub plans, wrote it on the board, did our business, waited an hour, and then went to the teacher next door so we could turn in our attendance. Eventually they got a sub for our sub, who literally went on a five minute rant because I sneezed, the education system is crazy.
The way she can just talk to the camera for 45 minutes, all alone, yet being so engaging with the audience is amazing, keep up the good work
It's almost as if she spent a couple years trying to communicate with teenagers. 😂
I KNOWWW!!! I’m so mad at the county, and everyone negatively involved. Those kids deserve better. She deserves better. Her loved ones deserve better. We deserve better. This country does better. Makes me want to apologize to all my teachers, even the bad ones.
It's almost like talk about a specific topic in an engaging way for an hour at a time was once a critical aspect to her job.
This story is a reminder to always get documentation of conversations. Even when it goes great. That proof of allowance to do tiktok or RUclips on property would have been useful. Also, if your HR department ever contacts you by phone, request anything they wish to discuss with you needs to be given to you in writing, and conversations will be taped. And if you feel retaliation or firing is a possibility hire a lawyer that deals with wrongful termination to go with you. These people forced you to quit. I hope you someday return to teaching. I'm sure many of your past students may agree.
Yup! Document, document, DOCUMENT!
i dont wanna live in a world or work in a place where i have to record my boss' words every time otherwise it means nothing
wtf kind of adults are this
@@Freestyle80 They are the worst kind of adults. Hence, this slew of "I Quit Teaching" videos.
Instead of recording your telephone conversations, a recorded zoom meeting is also helpful because it can be instantly shared via the internet.
If there's no time or inclination for a zoom meeting, you could zoom yourself having that telephone conversation.
This is spot on and is why email communication is so effective to get the results compared to some face-face contact or phone calls
Guaranteed that difficult mom COMPLETELY understood what her son did wrong, she was just being difficult to make you give in and give her son an A.
And she’ll be the one “magically” confused when her son is an adult and can’t deal with real life consequences and setbacks.
Either that or the apple didn't fall far from the tree...
No, I think she did her kid's HW and wouldn't settle for the grade she deserved.
Thats why we always have these assholes having zero respect for women. These momma's boys were enabled by mommy who thinks its appropriate to baby them so God damn much so they think all women everywhere owe them. I know because I used to be friends with someone like that who had the audacity to cause friction between me and my boyfriend.
I recently quit because of a Principal. A violent student broke my wrist and I was blamed. There was no conquences for what he did.After this I was treated so poorly and disrespected, I ended up quiting.
the kid broke your wrist, and wasn't punnished??? if he or she did that anywhere else, they would be in juvie. thats insane
This goes on for every white teacher, especially the new female ones, who get placed into all black public schools.
Sadly, your experience isn't rare.
You were right to quit, but you should have walked out and called the police. Principals should not be get away with covering up assault.
Lawsuit.
You are my hero! I retired after 32 years of teaching 2 years ago. I remember a very similar summer grading snafu where a parent wanted me to change a grade. I remember being furious, but i did it anyway. Public schools take advantage of good, conscientious teachers. You are awesome in leaving a toxic situation. I stuck it out and slowly lost my self respect after realizing parents are ALWAYS right. I am getting it back through my post retirement singing and singwriting pursuits. Much love sent your way and congratulations on your success and happiness!
My sister has been a teacher for about 23 years and has spent every day of those years convinced she's about to be fired. It is so toxic and it has made her unreasonable and awful to be around. I'm so glad that you got out of the toxic environment instead of letting it change who you are. Be well my friend. ❤️❤️
People get used to living each day like you might not get another day of work. The industry I’m in is environmental/politically volatile. That I’m on a 4 year project today, but tomorrow it could be shut down.
You do your best each day and try and prove your value. So if the job goes down the tubes, leadership will help you land on your feet somewhere else.
Most people can’t work with that instability.
@@ryancorsaut5177 can u tell me more about your field cause I’m considering environmental projects but it’s seems like your saying it’s not consistent?
@@ryancorsaut5177 can u tell me more about your field cause I’m considering environmental projects but it’s seems like your saying it’s not consistent?
As someone who still would kiss the ground my teachers walk on, because they are the reason I am who I am, I feel so disappointed. There were times I would stay back at school because I didn't want to go back to a lifeless empty house or much worse, the one where fights had become an everyday thing. My teachers were my protectors, school was my safe haven and I am literally in tears watching these amazing people deal with so much. It physically hurts to watch this happen. Teachers deserve so much better! And we need to make sure that they get the better life they deserve.
I read "as someone who would still kiss my teachers"
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And so true, teachers do deserve better.
teachers, real teachers, good teachers, deserve the world.
i hope you're in a better place these days !
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There’s a couple of teachers that I would do anything for. Looking back, school was my safe haven too because in middle school and high school going home meant nothing but hell. It meant that it would be constant yelling, belittling, and never ending cleaning around the house. In high school the theatre 🎭 department became like my Hogwarts because I was able to be whoever I wanted without being judged and I could see my friends. Rehearsal would start at 5:30, so from 3:30 pm to 4:30 the yelling would start right on time from the moment I sat at the computer table to do some homework before rehearsal. The yelling would involve belittling and trying to get me to always quite theatre. Before I would leave, I would tell my Hispanic dad “I’m going to hogwarts I’ll be back later tonight when it’s done.” I never wanted rehearsal to end, I wanted to sleep at the school like harry would at hogwarts. When theatre would end because of the end of school I hated it. School was my safe haven.
Teachers deserve AT LEAST basic human consideration and understanding. And it is such a shame so many kids have to suffer a low quality education because people can't give even that. I hope that people with insight like yours will revitalize the education system here in the US because lawd do we need it. 😮💨
agreed
@@madisogl so true tho
It's heartbreaking! All they want to do is teach, damn 😤
Exactly, like I don't understand how they don't understand that it's affecting how WE act, then they blame all misbehavior on us, even when it's not us. I don't see many adults as role models at this point. Why? They don't act like role models.😶😑😓
@manny022 So what will happen after the school system collapses?
This is my first summer after deciding to end my career as a teacher. I was grieving a little bit the last few days, wondering if I'm making the right decision. Fell upon this video, and the anxiety just came rolling back in hearing your story. 1000% I have made the right decision. And while I know there will be difficult days ahead...it won't be teaching, and that's good enough for me. 😊
There is a place for you, out there. One that will let you feel valued.
food service is better than teaching, less drama in total, though being a GM in a fast food place is torture, you could do 80hr weeks.
You can still teach people. Maybe selling online courses or offering tutoring services. I hope that it all works out ❤
@@joesmith9216 And you think that is normal... why exactly?
Looks like the 'plan' is to have as many worker drones as is possible, and it appears to be working. Reconsider what it is you're proposing as solution.
@@whtalt92 DO NOT BE A GM IN FOOD SERVICE, that work? the gm is the one in charge of it all.
It's insane how teachers are treated. Especially in High Schools cause even the kids are shitty to the teachers and can make their life hell so they get it from every direction. I was a huge teachers pet growing up and have stayed friends with a lot of my favorite teachers. They deserve a million times the appreciation and pay they actually get.
Just a question, was this Texas by any chance? It sounds just like the district I worked for, for years.
and in middle school I'm only in 6th grade and they treat the teachers terribly
Yeah Kentucky Highschooler here. My amazing band teacher was practically bullied into quitting. And the punishments practically didn’t exist. My current new band teacher his phone was stolen and hidden and was actually cracked. A music keyboard was broken and all of these resulted in little to no punishment. It’s awful.
I’m genuinely surprised by many saying this. I graduated back in 2014 I don’t remember ever seeing students treating teachers bad. It was more in elementary and middle school for where saw kids treating teachers like crap. I just changed my mind about teaching. But when I would tell people I’d like to teach hs they would be like “what really?” As if I was crazy 😅 haha
@@lauravaughan1960if you’re asking about Rebecca Rodgers because I’m pretty sure she is in North Carolina
I am a fourth year teacher and this is my last year. Being forced to change grades, fill out endless paperwork on how I am going to raise achievement of students who refuse to do work, and the endless meetings and development where teachers are blamed for everything. They can take their $5.73 an hour (what I actually make based on my pay and the hours I work) and put it in unspeakable places.
Sometimes the admins have the counselors change grades at the office and don't even tell you. When the kid who failed all his classes comes back all gleeful and thanks you warmly.....
I quit after my 4th year too
I , too, was also indirectly told to change grades. No administrator gets into trouble about this.
Mrs. Rogers, I am a student, and have been watching your videos for a while, I now realize how bad the education system is. My sister is a teacher here in Alabama, and I never knew what she went through, but after asking and showing her your content, she opened up to me. Thank you for helping me to connect with my sister again! Hope life treats you with the best it has to offer!!
SO DID SHE GET THE OFFER TO WORK SOMEWHERE ELSE? 😁
It is exactly as she portrays it. Lots of backstabbing, brown nosing, etc.
@@carolynnarmstrong3253 OF COURSE SHE DID
As a former 4th grade/middle school Language Arts teacher, this hit so hard. This county lost a fabulous educator. You are passionate, bright, and exactly what students need. I can only imagine how you felt in the midst of each incident. I'm so impressed by your strength and integrity. You are a bright light in this insane world. ❤
George Carlin was right decades ago. students are getting stupider every year. Wonder why? 😢
As someone who is presently looking for the metaphorical door out of public teaching, this video resonates with me HEAVILY. Bad principals, awful parents, lack of student discipline/accountability, immature coworkers, crappy pay. . . it's just too much.
I was someone who walked out that door. You see the evil corrupt after you leave. And you start to realize how bad our education system is. The best thing you can do is leave the system and find a side-effect way to help children. Private school, tutoring, homeschool groups, parent support, etc. You'll find your path. But the public education system is a disservice to children. It needs to be burnt to the ground and rebuilt.
It’s a disgrace how the schools are today. Years ago growing up, it was the reverse. All of those things is why the schools are in trouble.
Education field was the most toxic work environment I’ve ever worked in. Glad I don’t do it anymore
Damn, it must be like this everywhere in every state. I'm an early retiree and plan to stay that way. Did all of the administrators and parents take a universal course in how to get rid of "these" teachers who are trying to ruin the lives of the "precious" and "innocent" (not) youth in our country?
Same... I'm currently working in a toxic environment as a SPED teacher. Her former situation is my current nightmare. I want to get the eff out of the school I'm working in.
Power tripping Admin in the education system is a huge problem. I worked up to being an admin just trying to follow the rules and make my school a better place. But the twisted shit from higher ups was insane! Purposely making teacher's days awful for fun. It is disgusting. And I could call it out all day. But they had each other's backs and allowed this to continue as long as they got bonuses that took from the teacher's supplies. I had moved up wanting to make a difference. But it was run by toxic assholes.
This is why i don't believe independent school districts should be a thing. they need to be monitored at the county and state level, with independent oversight keeping track of how admin is spending their funding
Facts i had to move schools litrally
@@FIRING_BLIND It's municipal education that is very often an issue. Not saying charter and independants can't be bad ( and often times their corruption can be real stinky when it exists ), but municipal admin know every loophole possible to make a teacher's life hell. Because they can. Also their secretaries.
Sounds like I have gone through this as a teacher in more ways than one...
"The first shorts bonus was just above my monthly teaching salary" that is wild and goes to show teachers are criminally underpaid
That varies greatly state by state. My district starts at 60k now. I started at 29k in '95 and my pay has quadrupled with our recent 10% raise, but if I had known what it would be like I would not have been a teacher.
But it also shows how fortunate she was in content creation. Most people who just got eligible for monetization usually make no more than $200 their first month.
I had a principal tell me once "You just have to pull up your big girl panties to get through the rest of the year" This was after being targeted all year, and told at Spring Break that they would not renew my contract. I had another teacher in the room with me after I came back from break and she had no idea why they wanted her there. My kids were doing great, and EOY scores were very good.
Wow that principal was just trying to make you stay longer, but it wasnt their choice, it was ur choice to make. Sounds bit like a bully. Im sorry you went through that.
We lost a great teacher but gained an amazing RUclipsr
OMG MRS. ROGERS YOU SEEN MY COMMENT 🤩 thank you so much I love your videos! Especially the Bad Apple & We Don’t Get Paid Enough videos
Well said! It's almost as equally sad as exciting😭❤
@@TSHELE2 Ik 😭
Hey did you always used to have numbers by your name of did they just pop up recently?
@@jamall7003 I don’t have numbers by my name
As the son of a teacher, it baffles my mind that grown adults cannot comprehend the basic fundamentals of education, discipline, and internet content. Not understanding how social media works was okay back in 2008, but this is ridiculous. It astounds me that a principal and HR rep can be this dense. I'm glad you found a new and better path. My mom recently retired herself, though primarily for medical reasons.
I think the fundamental issues is people have a fear that content produced by a teacher about teaching related subjects might be construed as being about a child, school, district or co-worker. When you couple that with how ignorant these people are of the actual polices/laws and the horribly written polices of schools/districts, it results in enforcement that is more based on the enforcers interpretation of or lack of understanding on these poorly written polices. Often times schools/districts are unwilling to admit a mistake so they blame the losses on the employees.
This is why polices need to be clearly written and cite applicable examples, to remove any ambiguity. So that if an employee wants to know "Can i make content online?" or a administrator needs to know "Can a teacher make online content at school?" they can easily find the answer and understand where the boundaries are. As a new federal employee I spent 3 days reading the Joint-Travel Regulation (JTR) and the Fair-Labor Standards Act (FLSA) to find answers to travel/pay related questions. At the time I didn't understand why the would give the police then cite several examples of how that police was actually applied and at the time i felt the examples just seemed wasteful, like someone was getting paid by the word. Then I had an issue with my nieces school, after contacting several people at the the school and got several different and conflicting answers. I decided "Hey you have read the Federal Acquisition Regulation (FAR), surely the rules cant be any worse that one of the single larges pieces of US Legislation, right?", Holy hell.... These polices are written so they can mean anything the school/district wants them to mean, i never complained about the federal regulations again.
@@Iosifavich nah...they know they don't know what they're are doing and that they are full of shit about education so they fear too much attention will be on these teacher's and that they will eventually talk. Like they are now. However, I was told to never be a teacher by a teacher well over 20 years ago
From one teacher to another that has been through a similar situation.... You lasted much longer than I did. I taught college, won teacher of the year and when I got a 19 cent raise it was my breaking point. I took my class out for drinks during my class time. And never came back after happy hour. Love the channel God bless.
Wow. That's one way to end things. 😅
Good for you though!! I almost became a teacher and the only reason I didn't is because I wanted to take a year off after high school due to mental health (graduated 8th in class with an unweighted 4.0, I needed a break) which meant I didn't qualify for the teaching scholarship. Which meant the 1 year became 3 as I had to save up for school. Was worth it to avoid these horror stories though. 😂
LMAO
Wow they really didnt appreciate you! I have been teaching 3.5years and over it. I love how u celebrated with ur students and had those last moments
ngl that's a badass move
My mom was a language arts and drama teacher for YEARS.
While she was teaching, she gained weight, had poor mental health, and physically had HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE due to this type of environment. My dad said at the time it was like "teaching sucked her soul away".
and people still ask why there are teacher shortages?
😉👍EXACTLY, BECAUSE THE MORE TEACHERS BEING BULLIED, THE LESS TEACHER THERE WILL BE FOR THE THOSE STUDENTS WHO NEEDS TEACHERS IN SCHOOL🏫 THIS NEEDS TO BE FIXED AND SITUATED!
Oh pudding. Touch some grass.
Ryan you are really all over these comments with your bitterness…who hurt you 😂
@@ryancorsaut5177 teachers need to touch grass because they're complaining about toxic work environments and abuse? Really? It seems that YOU need to touch grass
i knew it was bad when i took my kids out of the school system, i always knew the problem was at the top and not with the poor overworked underpaid teachers. this literally breaks my heart, you were clearly meant to teach children, our school systems absolutely suck. its more for obedience training and less about children learning. i now homeschool 5 kids, its hard but i will never send them back.
the straw that boke the camels back for me was when i was targeted and gaslit by a teacher because i didnt have access to an online app for students (no smartphone) and she simply didnt like that i told her no and set a boundary. she then proceeded to make my life, my husbands life and my sons life hell. it was truly aweful and quite frankly scary, scary that i had to leave my child with a hateful evil teacher every day. she is still teaching, i wish i was brave enough to make an issue of it.
I pulled mine out too, 2 kids with autism/ADHD and my oldest was treated so horribly some staff should literally be in jail (and it wasn't the teachers), my youngest never stepped foot in a public school.
The day I pulled my oldest was a day they called me, again, to come pick him up because they somehow triggered him again (by doing the total opposite of his IEP) and he was too agitated to go back to class. I walked into the principals office and she said if I only fed my son eggs for breakfast (he hates eggs) then all his troubles would go away....I freaking LOST IT, like full on screaming and telling her how much of an incompetent idiot she was and if only she had managed to pass grade 1 reading and comprehended the IEP that was literally written by a team of medical experts, specifically for my son (this was done after a 6 week inpatient stay where he was assessed and a plan made for him by speech, OT, psych, neuro, social worker, etc) and actually followed it instead of thinking she knew better than a whole team of specialists then we wouldn't be in this mess. When I walked out, my son that was in the waiting room was like GO MOM!!!!
It's hard, but I absolutely don't regret it whatsoever, been homeschooling now for 6 years and not going back.
@@catlady9123 I am so sorry that happened to you a similar situation happened to me I have quite a few disabilities physical and I have ADHD, sensory processing disorder and austic traits and when I was in 3 through the beginning 6 grade I went without any of my IEP accommodations and was failing and being pushed through the system while barely passing the grade before below average that was when I was with my father but when I was with my mom I had all of the accommodations that I needed and she made sure of it and I am now in two highschool classes and a honors class in 8th grade and above average in reading and math and thriving
@@catlady9123 I had something similar happen to me too, only I was the kid in the situation. I’ve been diagnosed with Asperger’s syndrome and sensory processing disorder since I was 3 and had an IEP throughout all of elementary school (which was the public school). When I started middle school (6th grade), it was at a private Waldorf school, where I did have an IEP, but my main teacher refused to accommodate my anything. First of all, she didn’t believe that COVID or autism existed, so she thought me and my parents were using it as an excuse for me being lazy (even though I’ve never been less than a straight-A student). She also had to make just about every assignment have drawing or painting in it, even in subjects where it didn’t belong like math or science, and drawing and painting happen to be the two things I’m worst at, so the whole year really didn’t help my already very low self-esteem. She was never outright mean to my face (almost as if it was deceptively so), but according to my parents, she was possibly the worst person they had the (dis)honor of talking to at parent-teacher conferences and also didn’t approve of our lifestyle and basically made my life at school miserable and would only stop when we changed it. Also, in that school, you’re stuck with the same teacher from K-12, so my parents decided to homeschool me, and I couldn’t be more thankful for it. I’m now in 8th grade (or would be if I was in school) and life is much better now! I’m also realizing that I just did a LOT of rambling in this comment (I guess this is what you get when you try to write something at 2:30 AM), so I’m sorry for making you read all this.
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I work in a HR and it’s crazy to me that they would’ve called you in without any evidence for the complaints. And it was literally only a complaint from one person. The principal should’ve been the one sitting in HR. That person needs to be fired. I can’t believe amazing teachers, such as yourself and being chased away by this person and yet no one is doing anything to stop him. I’m so sorry you went through this
Welcome to education.
It appears to be a huge conflict of interest what he was doing.
@@casebeth Welcome to HR in general in today's PC culture tbh.
@@grizzlyadams1929 I've worked at a lot of places and have never had a positive hr experience
What Casebeth said. This is how education works, sadly.
I taught for 40 years and I have to say that although I loved it most of the time,the stories you tell really resonate.I love that you made another life,better income and have remained resilient and joyous…..well done
My mom was a TA for a disabled school in a large Texas town and she loved working with her kids. But the schools politics got so toxic that she just retired and withdrew her retirement to buy a house so she didn't have to pay rent for the rest of her life. She now baby sits her great grandson for free. I seriously think she would've passed before now if she stayed at that job.
She ain’t living alone tho right
Since she has a house for herself and of course taking care of the grandson
@@sulwhale3171 no I'm single and live with her along with my two boys in their 20s.
Bless her heart. She should enjoy the peaceful retirement
I didn't know that you quit teaching, but i respect your decision. I would quit the first day after the high schoolers. 😂
Same XD
Same lol
same
Can’t blame ya! As a high schooler I can say we dumb and crazy af lmao
Look I can understand, but you never been to the wild unless you teach in middle school.
My mom was a teacher for 16 years. I grew up watching what it was like to be a teacher truthfully its a lot I feel so bad for teachers that have horrible work environments bc my mom didn't and she still had a lot of stress constantly. The amount of kids that would disrespect her was disturbing and made me feel bad that she had to deal with this plus her own 2 kids so I made sure that no matter how much I disliked a teacher or if I was mad at my mom that I would try to not make their life any worse because you never know how bad they get treated until you watch it happen.
Yeah, I've seen some of my teachers cry from the way students and other staff treated them. I have so much respect for teachers.
@@Bugs3820 public school systems are demonic. Teachers equal flunkies to teach young prisoners. America is finished. #THEGREATSEPERATION2028
@@ironfist458 I don't live in America. But the school system is very flawed in Australia as it is in most countries. And I don't know what you mean by the great seperation.
@@Bugs3820 Trust me the whole world will feel the great separation. The mistreatment of dark people will come to an end VERY SOON. The sun is only going to get hotter from here on out.
@@ironfist458 OK, well you'll have to explain it to me
Fascinating. I don't watch 45 minute videos, but your story and narrative skills are so compelling that I watched the whole thing.
I walked out after teaching 15 years… was state teacher of the year… because my admin asked why I didn’t give more grades. She insisted it would help bring up some of their grades. Even after I showed her with actual numbers that mathematically when you’re dividing by more assignments, it’s actually more difficult to raise a grade, she said “I think more grades would raise their grades”. So I gave them 2 graded assignments that week. Their calculated averages may have changed slightly but for the most part, their letter grades were the same, except for the kid whose parent was complaining. His letter grade went down. So guess what my next request was from my admin…. Yup, I should drop that assignment.
Doesn't beat being told to change failing grades to 70s for all SpEd students since legally they cannot fail classes.
@@gentlewomanasmr2305 I have no idea what your experience is, but yes, a SpEd kid CAN fail a class or a grade. Sometimes repeating a grade is what is best for them. I can see admin not wanting to fail SpEd kids, because they don't want too close a scrutiny into the IEPs and how the accommodations were made. But absolutely, they get extra help and extra chances that most kids do not get. For good reason. Fortunately, that does not affect the vast majority of kids. Nor does it make teachers' lives miserable. It may not seem fair, but among all of garbage that teachers deal with just in this video, it's pretty minor. And it may mean the difference between an unemployed disabled adult dependent on family and society and a functional adult earning minimum (or low) wages and contributing to their own support. A SpEd kid that only got a diploma because of their accommodations isn't going to be able to trick or deceive an employer into keeping them employed. It will be abundantly clear to their boss what their capacity is, and if it's enough for a low end job, they'll get it and keep it. If it's not, they won't. But the diploma allows them the chance to prove themselves.
He sounds like a typical man. Always right never wrong.
Wow! Teacher of the year and you weren't spared from all the admin crazy stuff. Most people have no idea the power and lengths...I'd say MOST administrators go to control and micro-manage with the result of losing good teachers like you.
Congrats. What a complete 💩 show
I’m really happy to hear that you are out of a toxic work environment. Hate that you had to give up teaching but you definitely made the right choice.
As a retired high school chemistry teacher (25 years - in 2021) - this is right on point. THIS is exactly why good teachers are leaving the teaching field in droves.
any tips on teaching chemistry
I am sorry for what you went through. Some of those parents are Karens. I am really sad that teachers are quitting. It is a noble field. Teachers deserve respect.
As one of your former teachers (CHS), this makes me so sad that you endured a horrible experience! The profession definitely loss a great teacher. I wish you the best of luck on content creation! 😊
what's chs?
cordova hs?
Where is CHS?
Charles hase secondary?
Why are y'all trying to find out what high school lmao only they need to know
As a former teacher I was frustrated hearing your experience. I'm so sorry this happened! It's very sad that teachers are treated this way. Glad you got out!!!
"Is that two weeks or thirty days? I asked you a question." I love it. ❤️ Good for you! You're an amazing educator. They don't know what they're doing. You deserve all the success in the world with people that value your passion for education.
Narcissists will strut around doing crazy stuff to see who is able to be manipulated and who isn't. Then, for those who give them push back, they will push harder to try and get you to: SUBMIT!
You did the right thing and I just LOVE your shiny ✨ spine!!!!
Can we just stop and acknowledge how AMAZING her husband is! THAT IS RELATIONSHIP GOALS! "I don't care we will figure it out I just want you out of that environment because it's toxic " that is amazing extra points for Husband!
I second this!
After 17 years, my husband is encouraging me to leave also. My mental and physical health has suffered to the point where it’s hard to get out of bed in the morning. I love those kids. It’s very sad but, I honestly think I’m losing years of my life at this point by the stress.
I know what it’s like to teach in a toxic environment. When I left, I was convinced that I would never teach again, because the risk of teaching at yet another toxic place wasn’t worth it. But after the worst of Covid, one of my former mentors from that school who quit a year before I did, asked me to interview for a position and I was pretty much hired on the spot. She answered every question I had about admin, teacher support, pd, etc. I’m almost halfway done with my first year and I’m SO grateful to be at a school with such a strong and supportive admin team. It really does come from the top down. I’m so sorry you experienced that, and also for the residual effects of enduring such toxicity if there is any (I definitely have some defense mechanisms I’m unlearning rn in a healthier environment). You can’t have a long term, sustainable teacher force if you abuse your teachers. Sad to see you go, but happy for your transition towards a better and healthier path.
As someone getting my licensure to teach right now, stories like this are so heartbreaking and scary. I hope that I can find a supportive work environment, and I’m lucky to be in an area with good unions, but I truly hope that the field improves overall to support teachers doing a job they love. It is good to see former teachers finding success in tutoring, content creation, etc, so that worse case scenario I might find an opportunity to move on.
Right I'm there right before student teaching. I'm a para now so I'm hopeful that I'll survive
It really does depend on your administration. If they have your back, it is a great job. Mine tend to micromanage and take parents/students’ sides on everything so it’s very demoralizing at times.
Make sure you go into teaching not for the money, rules and regulations but for what you love. You wont survive otherwise.
It definitely is possible to find a good job! I really like teaching at my school. It isn't perfect (nowhere is), but this issues aren't things that make my job as a teacher harder. I hope I can be a bit of encouragement when there's so many discouraging stories out there.
I graduate in May and am actively trying to fight my fear because god, teaching is just getting worse and worse and I remember all of the strikes from when I was a kid in 2010 and every year after.
This is crazy! I can't believe you lasted as long as you did. I'm a Pre K teacher so I can relate to the whole admin/ parent situation. Too much stress!
Preschool room leader here. Every day is a freakin nightmare! I just wouldn’t know where to start !
I'm a teacher with a very supportive administration. I set the same email boundaries, and I don't grade on my personal time. Listening to your story, I am livid for you. I'm sorry that your principal and HR were so unreasonable, and I'm glad that you were able to get out and do something you love while also raising awareness about the conditions that teachers work in. Thank you for sharing your story.
My 8th grade class made the student teacher cry every day until the point she quit. She was such a good and lenient teacher but they took full advantage of her and her kindness. I've talked to her outside of school about it and the students made her not want to be a teacher anymore. So sad, truly one of my favorite teachers I've had.
To put this into perspective, what would the workplace be like for most people if all industry were nationalized and then the government passed a law compelling everyone to work for state owned enterprises in effect making it illegal to loaf or be unemployed at any time, merely to save having to pay unemployment insurance? Naturally, you would have chaos since management wouldn’t be able to fire anyone for cause. That, in a nutshell, is what the public schools are like since the students are permitted to heckle people like student teachers and substitute teachers much as if they were actually comedians who were bombing with a comedy club audience. This is the absurdity of public education. Which is why no one should waste their time teaching public school.
My 8th grade science class made our teacher cry because she had cancer earlier in her life and she had a plaster mask thing that was used during her radiation therapy and kids were BULLYING her because of that.
@@AshleesBathroom Oml, kids are ruthless. Especially like 7th-9th grade bc every single one realize no adult can make them do anything. Something needs to change but what that is I have no idea
Son of a teacher here. I cannot tell you how many times, especially in my mom's last 5-7 years of teaching, that she came home upset or complaining about the job. Its just not fair how teachers have been downplayed, humiliated, chastized and kicked around over the years. I genuinely dont know how my future kids will fare going forward.
Mrs Rogers, you are so fun to watch. I hope you keep doing what you do. I enjoy the tuesday special every week (especially since thats what got me hooked on the channel.) Seriously, youre awesome!!
Side note regarding the anti semitism thing at the end: i dont get why all the jewish hate. A jewish girl I dated told me that all they want is to be left alone. And yet, theyre always blamed for everything. I dont get it 🤔🤔🤔
It started somewhere long before most of us were born that people wanted to blame someone for the world's problems so they blame the Jews.
A lot of (evangelical) Christians blame the Jewish people for Jesus’ death.
Yes, antisemitism doesn't make sense. The origin is indeed the rise of Christianity. Societies were really homogenous back then (middle Ages). So Jews were a minority in Europe. They were used as scape goats. When people were getting ill it was said that Jews must have poisoned the wells. Jews lived close to each other because they had to be near a Synagoge. That's probably why they sometimes didn't get sick while other parts of town had outbreaks.
Christians and Muslims weren't allowed to charge interests when leding money. So Jews took on that role (which helped the economy). But that's were the stereotype of the money loving Jew comes from.
Antisemitism became a problem in the middle east when the State Isreal was founded after WW2.
Nowadays in the US it's similar to the middle Ages. Conspiracy theorists just make stuff up. Saying Jews are the super rich elite that want to rule the world.
A lot of Palestine supporters blame the Jewish people for the actions of the Israeli government.
For those interested: the principal in question (Ian Solomon) no longer works at that school (Leesville Road HS). He retired in July 2023. So hopefully the new principal (a woman named Shejuanna Jacobs) will be a better & more empathetic employer and the teachers there will no longer have to live in fear. 😊
"Retired" riggggghhhhhttttt.....
@smithrr6 Yeah I'm hoping that's more like a forced retirement lol. Considering he only worked there like 4 years it probably was.
does that mean Mrs rogers can go back to teaching now?
@takumi2023 Something tells me that is not going to happen.
I was riveted for 43 and a half minutes. So many triggers, weirdly in a good way! My dad was an elementary school teacher until the day he died (back when teachers were treated like humans) I dreamed of being a teacher since before Kindergarten. I raised my large family then finished school and started teaching. I left teaching after 2 years and I’m still working through the trauma.
Thank you for this hugely validating video ❤️
This definitely did not feel like a full length TV episode!
Yeah I was livid the whole time to like If I was in Rebecca’s situation I WOULD HAVE NOT been so professional for that long I wouldn’t have been able to do it
I relate to this so much. I made it a year as a teacher and left with severe anxiety and pissed. I taught 7th grade science, chemistry, physics, geography, and biology in the course of ONE YEAR. I remember I had one incident where if my students didn't turn in their assignment the day it was due, I just instantly put in a zero until they turned it in and I could compute the late points. I figured this made it easier for me and also alerted parents to an issue. A few parents FREAKED OUT at little Jimmy's grade falling (why didnt little Jimmy turn in his homework, how is this my fault??) and my administration told me to just leave the grades blank until the assignments were turned in..... okaaaaaay. So I do that and one of my students just didn't turn in assignments like all semester. I had like 150 students and was a brand new teacher drowning - I didn't even notice to be honest because it wasn't computing his grade anymore!! Towards the end of the grading period I went through and filled in all the zeroes, and low and behold suddenly out of nowhere he had like a 32. His dad called me screaaaaming, multiple times. I remember sitting in my classroom shaking. I felt so set up to fail and confused. It's been like 6 years and I still get kind of upset about it. This is just one of dozens and dozens of instances of my administration telling me to do frankly stupid things then not backing me up at all.
That’s horrible… the nerve of some parents
It sounds traumatic.
What happened to the rule, at least in North Carolina, that a teacher couldn't teach more than one class outside of their field? At least I know this was a rule in the 1980s.
I'm so sorry for your experience. How administrators can even justify their jobs is beyond me. I've always thought that administrators were there for support of the school AND the teachers but after hearing story after story it's just not true. Why do they cave so quickly to the parents ? Cowards plain and simple.
@@lauralangham9657 Some are and some aren't. I've had the chance to work with a great, very supportive principal as well as the opposite, and the mediocre in-between.
When you said you made more money content creating right off the bat I literally yelled “you go girl!”
I went to school to be a teacher, I have a degree, but I never passed EdTPA, which means in my state I didn’t get my teaching license. I’ve been working in childcare instead. And the more I follow teachers on Instagram, the more I don’t want to go get my teaching license. There are so many horror stories. That doesn’t mean that I won’t try some day, but I’m comfortable where I am at currently 🤷♀️
Don’t do it - it was a nightmare
I also majored in Education but wasn't certified in the state I lived in. I took a job programming computers to earn money to go back to school and just stayed in tech No regrets.
I'm in the UK but in the same position, I've got my Qualified Teacher Status but haven't done my qualifying years yet, I've worked as a TA for two years and am now applying to do play therapy instead, I've heard so many bad experiences from teachers in recent years I don't want to do it anymore
I also have a degree in education, but haven’t taught. (Plan was to raise my babies and then maybe teach when they were all in school. ) I decided last summer I’m going to let my certificate lapse. Between teachers I know and teacher’s stories on different platforms, I don’t think I want to teach.
I feel this so much too. One of my biggest complaints against me was the bathroom situation. We're in a Title I middle school and we couldn't let students go to the bathroom individually. If they went to the bathroom individually, they would graffiti it, rip the soap dispensers out, and clogged the toilets purposely. So we had to set up a system so we all took the students as a class to the bathroom. So I would have to stand by the boy's bathroom door to make sure they weren't doing anything inappropriate.
Then the parents started complaining. Having an adult stand by the door, supervising the kids so they don't vandalize the bathroom, felt "predatory" to these parents. However, if I wasn't there to physically monitor the kids, they would clog the toilets with hot wings from lunch. So damned if you do, damned if you don't.
If this were me I would not have lasted that long. I struggled to finish the video because I was just so beyond frustrated on your behalf. I admire your persistence and the love you had for your students. The American school system isn’t working, but individual people just suck. I am so happy you’ve been able to build a community you can turn to. You did not deserve any of what happened and I hope only the best for you! 😊❤
Oh Rebecca! I had to watch this in parts because it was very triggering for me. I retired after seventeen years as a special educator. Sadly, your experience is replayed in endless iterations in the lives of other mistreated professionals. You were smart enough to get out early and you are young. I was a career switcher and felt trapped because I entered the field at such a late age. Such an irony that a field seeking to enlighten should be one of abuse.
Same here. 13 years in several districts in special ed. Never worked again. Didn't know teaching was the Hunger Games.
@@carolsheridan3357 I am so sorry to hear that😟😔. It certainly is a rotten way to retire. It has been 3 years now and I still go down the rabbit hole when someone awakens those memories.
Jeez Ms. Rogers. I was one of your students in your second year of teaching. Even though i failed your class cause i fell asleep all the time you understood me and you were my best teacher at the time. Even though we barely had a connection i feel very bad that that bully was putting through all of that and you deserve so much better. I wish you so much luck
I left teaching for so many of the same reasons! Thanks for giving all of us a voice! Love your stories!
The fact that principal is in a position of power and got away with so many horrible things and it sounds like gaslit so many teachers boils my blood. Like with all we heard about this principal just from this video;; how did the principal even get the job? Sounds like it was because he knew people and that’s the only reason. It’s just so frustrating and I’m glad that your RUclips videos and everything else has become so popular. You’re an amazing person Mrs. Rogers and I’m glad I get to watch your amazing content.
Rebecca, from the stories you shared about your students, it’s clear that you’ve made a huge and positive impact on their lives and that they’re proud to have been students of yours.
Honestly I'm also a student and this shows me just how much teachers tend to go through. I'm glad you're giving insight into what teachers have to deal with. Students really need to respect teachers more and I hope they do.
Those evaluations do matter... As you said, they matter when you go to another school. They also matter if you want to get get recourses from the district for a project ("Oh we heard about you and we think you should probably focus on your teaching."). They also matter when you get a new principal. They also matter if you have a gossip(y) secretary (more common that it should be). They also matter as your principal continues your evaluation process; he or she will look at those evaluations to justify their current distorted perception of you. Finally, they also matter to your own mental heath. Being criticized for something that was in no way dysfunctional, is hurtful. A hurt you didn't earn or deserve. LOVE THIS VIDEO!
Wow. I found myself getting heated as you told your story and had literal tears running down my face by the end. My mom was a teacher’s assistant in a school for over 20 years. She was bullied and gaslit by a principal too. I was so relieved when she retired and came to work in our family business with my dad and I. It’s a shame that so many wonderful teachers have no choice but to leave the profession. Good for you for putting yourself first, and shame on your principal and county HR/admin for not doing everything they could to create a positive and supporting work environment for talented individuals such as yourself.
I’m a college student hoping to become a teacher and you and the TOD podcast have really opened my eyes to the struggles I’m going to face as a teacher. I’m sorry teaching didn’t work out for you at that school and I truly hope you find more great opportunities in your path Becca💛
And I quit my private school job today……so thank you for this. You help so many people.
Oh my gosh!!! This is my story also! I was a Special Education teacher for 29 years. I loved teaching my students in the Autism Spectrum, Downs Syndrome, and other disabilities. During my last 8 years of teaching I hated going to school. It wasn’t my students but the lack of administrative support and being told I wasn’t doing a good job. Now, mind you the administrators did not have any Special Needs background. I asked them what it was that I needed to improve on. They said I needed to give more opened ended questions!😳 WHAT?!?!? I’m teaching students with very specific needs and cognitive ability! This went on for several years. I went from excellent to needs improvement! I began to feel sick every day. I felt as though I was experiencing PTS every day I was there. I went to see my doctors and the results came back I had diabetes. It came on with all the stress I was experiencing at work. I was mentally, emotionally, and physically exhausted every day. After that I turned in my 2 years for retirement! The doctors told me to quit, get a different job, or I could die. I didn’t attend the district and the high school retirement dinners. I’ve been retired for 7 years and I’m so happy! I will never teach again! I didn’t even renew my teaching certificate!
Hi Rebecca. I'm a teacher.
I just want to say that I love your content and it was been instrumental in my ability to cope with the BS of the career that we have both mutually dealt with over the years.
First off, I am sorry and sooooo empathetic with what you went through in your teaching career. I have dealt with similar things, but nothing to the caliber that you have dealt with. It truly sounds like a school from hell.
Secondly, I have an insane amount of respect for you. This story you shared is so inspiring. Do what you want to do, eff the system. I do FIRMLY believe we have lost a great teacher. Maybe you'll come back later (hopefully in a state/system that can respect you), but until then, you have my support as a fan.
Keep being awesome.
I'm retiring at the end of this school year. It is with great excitement that I leave the teaching profession. I wish I had done something else with my life. Thank you for your videos. You provide humor in a humorless profession. It's time for me to start living and get as far away from education as I can. 😊
Sir, if you are retiring from this position then you have taught for many years. The kids you taught have gleaned insight of knowledge from your prospective. Without you this would never had happened. To say you wish you would have done something different is silly. Those lives you touched went on to do amazing things. Remember that.
Girl, administrators and parents can be a pain in the foot. I've been a teacher for 15 years. I have many stories about admin. I got totally burned out. I quit teaching and now I sub. Couldn't be happier.
You go girl! You endured so much. You're such a blessing to the education world, whether you-re in the classroom or online.
I don’t understand how parents wouldn’t love having you as their kids teacher, you are legit amazing
It's simply rude entiled parents expecting the right to tell the teacher everything to do.
Because these parents love their own egos more than anything else. If their kid isn't performing well in school that's a mark on them and so they get upset at the nearest person who's not related to them and label that person (usually a teacher) as the cause.
I appreciate that you told us your story. My husband(a middle school history/math teacher and then middle school assistant principal) was fortunate to teach in a private school that was wonderful. He decided to go into administration. His first job was in a school district with a wonderful Principal who had years of experience. She was a great mentor. But the Superintendent was awful. Every administrator was stressed under him. My husband decided to move to a different district when his mentor retired. New school was great and under a supportive Superintendent. Then that Superintendent retired. And in came the Superintendent from heck. She was on a power trip. She found issue with every administrator that she didn’t personally hire. My husband’s last straw was when he was reprimanded for reporting an incident to law enforcement and Department of Children’s Services AS REQUIRED BY LAW before telling her about it so she could investigate first. WHICH IS AGAINST STATE LAW! This is how schools would get in trouble because they would try to cover up this sort of thing. My husband refused to sign the reprimand. So she fired him. He sued. The district had to pay his full salary for the almost full year he was out AND had to pay his lawyer fees. He won but he didn’t want to go back. He has no regrets.
Love hearing stories of educators getting what they deserve! Screw that sup!
I don't know you personally, but I was so angry at what was done to you. I am glad you were able to pivot and be successful.
Thank you for sharing your story! My student teaching starts in two weeks. Thank you for talking about the issues that teachers are dealing with.
Good luck and best wishes!
OMG live this. Our stories are so similar!!! Crazy. I left a bully, toxic environment, and an administrator who couldn’t recall what was said one day to the next. Your video had me laughing and also sympathetic to how you, and many our treated. Like you, I’m fortunate to have the ability to walk away. Best of luck in your professional job going forth.
Omg this was so triggering! I am a third year teacher and this job is so much worse than I ever knew, even while knowing that teachers were underpaid and overworked before. I am fortunate to have kind, supportive admin for the most part. However - the parents, the work load, the system overall that chooses to prioritize the wrong things constantly .. cutting positions, having no support, endless pointless busy work (30 hours of compliance training every year that is exactly the same!?), and the list goes on - as you know. And then to be talked down to and manipulated when you voice your frustrations or concerns.. it’s just too much for anyone to handle. We need to burn the whole system down and rebuild it before there are no good teachers left.
🙌🏼☝🏻 100% agree!!! I’m also in my third year of teaching and am planning on this being my last year. I’m wanting to open a daycare! I decided this year that enough is enough. When I wake up every morning not wanting to go to work and so unhappy that it’s starting to affect my family is where I draw the line. I love my kids and will miss them!
Run. Start anything new before you’re stuck
I completely respect your decision to quit teaching. Your job was so hard. I just hope you didn't quit school tiktoks. Now you have time to relax and spend time with Avery. You made the right decision. 😁😁😁👩🏫👩🏫👩🏫
I wanted to be a teacher my whole life. I had a child early so it wasn’t until I was in my early 20s I went back to school to become a teacher. While I was in school I worked in a daycare with a few retired teachers and was told by them all to not do it. This was about 14 years ago. I dropped out and stayed working for daycares and preschool until Covid hit. Now I’m a waitress but I wouldn’t give up those years teaching preschool for anything.
I'm sad for the students who will miss out on you being their teacher because you are the type of teacher kids deserve but I am so glad that you are adding your voice to the dialogue to advocate for teachers like myself. You made the right choice by leaving a toxic work environment and putting your effort into something I feel is doing the rest of us teachers the most good.
Im so glad you have such a supportive husband ! That is so important. You can’t let abuse go on in the work place drama must remain out of the work place yet it’s the main place it boils. Keep doing you! You got this. 😊😊
After teaching for 34 years I was able to retire.
I had many similar interactions with school administrators.
The kids are great, I loved teaching, the adults are crazy.
I love your content. Thanks for making this video, most people don't have any idea what teachers go through every day.
As someone who wanted to be a teacher and realizing it's not what it's cracked up to be, this helps a lot. I guess working for yourself really is the best outcome.
you STILL can be a teacher, just go and be a teacher, rogers is still "teacher" (shes just teaching on yt instead rockerfellers schools) its why i stopped going to therapy becuase 95% the time i was TEACHING the therapist and NOT the other way around, why am I paying 100$ to speak to someone on a computer screen that only dose it becuase they are paid too when can just hang out in hl2dmrp and talk to peaople for free (and also be able to unalive eachother [in game] if anger eachother instead casusing sucide IRL) prettymuch everyone that dose play aggrees its much better than VR chat (can only hang out cant break locks and slay eachother, so they then drive peaople to unalive themselves irl)
@@NightmareRex6 Bro over here on gmod dark rp. A man of culture, I see.
Your experience is why I chose NOT to become a teacher. Being a teacher is not just about classrooms. You teach throughout all your videos. 🥰❤️🥰
I’m currently studying to be a high school teacher and I’m keeping all of these stories in mind to know what to look out for when I start teaching. Thank you for all that you do
Have a Plan B for another job if you decide to leave teaching. Use the summer to work at it or develop experience. I know a new teacher that worked as a Substitute for a while and quit. He is the custodian at the school now and enjoys it way more. Stories like that aren’t unusual. Find a rural county where there might be a more traditional environment with fewer schools and smaller class sizes. Just a thought. Teaching in the right environment can be wonderfully rewarding and a super career. In the wrong situation it can be terrible and stressful. Try Substituting to get your feet wet so to speak and learn the “lay of the land”. You may have to see where you fit best, elementary, middle school or HS. I have taught 10 years in elementary and then worked in construction and real estate the remainder of my life, but still taught in other fields. I was an Assistant Scoutmaster, teaching Scout skills and Merit Badges, taught night school at a college, and was even a Certified Flight Instructor. I even did some Substitute teaching in our local school system. The students need and deserve good quality teachers. Find the position and place that works for you. If you love teaching there should be a good spot out there somewhere that fits for you. Good luck!
Also on the road to become a teacher. One thing to look out for, if you are applying to a school, do some detective work. Look up reviews, articles, local pages, and make sure you aren’t entering a crazy work environment
I would highly suggest not majoring in education. The cost of the degree is often 5 years worth of salary and it isn’t as marketable to other fields of work as you might think. Want to be a math teacher? Get an engineering degree or business degree. You can still teach but have other options as well. Teaching degrees are good art he master level only.
@@Erin-ce2wj I’m majoring in Agriculture Education. I’m going to be a high school agriculture teacher, so the system works a little differently for me, but I appreciate the advice.
@@Corinthians1614 Great advice. I’m currently working with a few schools and learning from their teachers to give me an idea of how their programs work. It’s giving me a good map of where the good school are in my area.
I used to be a high school teacher and I left because of: 1) parents, 2) principal that is unsupportive and wants to please every parent. That principal bullied me too and to this day, 5 years later, I am still sick because of the stress/burnout I had because of that principal.
I am so sorry you experienced that. I am happy for you that you are able to thrive doing content creation! ❤ You sound like a great person and great teacher! They did not deserve you!
Thanks so much for all you have done for so many and thank you for discussing appropriate boundaries in our career. I empathize so much with what you experienced experiencing very similar struggles during the same time period. Like you, I was effectively forced out of the field by demands like those from parents and principals on my time, but I am a pilot now! I hope your future looks as bright as the growth you have encouraged in the lives of many!
Grace & Peace
GIRL. Your principal sounds a lot like the one I had! 🙃 I taught 6-12 band/choir in a Title 1 school near Detroit for 2 years and had many similar experiences with wacky scheduling, parents running the place, and bully admins. I quit in 2016 then went to MSU for my masters, now I work in nonprofit for a symphony! If you’re ever in Detroit sometime let’s go grab a coffee. ❤❤❤
Good for you doing this, people who stay complacent give toxic people the “reassurance” they can keep doing what they are doing. You set a strong example of what happens when work creates toxic boundaries. I know you made the right decision and I am proud of you!
People don't quit jobs, they quit bad bosses!! Administrative integrity is a pre requisite for a truly successful school. (From a retired teacher with over 35 years experience)
I had exactly this set of admin. I put up with it for years, because usually I kept my head down and they only came in my room twice a year for observation. However, this year was my camel-back breaking straw. There’s too much to go into here, but at the end of the year they were actually surprised that I didn’t sign my contract. Now I feel that I should go back and thank them, because I applied to teach for the DoD in Europe, and my husband and I leave mid August for four years. Can’t wait! And if that admin team were just slightly less awful, I would never have had this opportunity.
@lynndee455 - I just watched this video and saw your comment. I'm considering going the DoD route as well, how is it going for you? Is there any advice you could give for the application/interview process?
I am in my 40’s and started teaching in 2019. I left my first autism charter after 4 months due to toxic admin, the second one after 14 months due to toxic admin, and the final one I flat out refused to sign a bogus write up and was fired for insubordination. The fine for quitting w/o notice there was $5000, so I saved myself some money. I was also eligible for unemployment since they discriminated against me for my disability. Teaching was the worst career choice I could have possibly ever made. The kids loved me and had fun with my lessons and experiments. However, I have found that the admins are absolutely toxic, unreasonable, and disrespectful.