I love my Schwinn IC4, I have had it only a few weeks. Just wanted to pass along a few things I have noticed... There have been a lot of complaints about the pedals coming loose and stripping on the IC4, most of these I believe are due to improper installation. As of the time I purchased my bike in Dec 2021, it appears that Schwinn made a few changes. The crank arms now appear to have a threaded steel insert pressed into them and do not have the threads cut directly into the aluminum crank arm, this will make them more durable and less likely someone will thread them in wrong and crossthread them since the steel threads in the inserts are harder than the threads in the soft aluminum of the crank arm. The pedal shafts appear to be slightly redesigned as they are different than the ones on the stores display model. They also include blue lock time on the threads to keep them tight. People still need to realize the left pedal has a left had thread and the right pedal had a right hand thread to tighten. The pedals are marked L for left and R for right just as the crankshaft are just match the up when installing. Schwinn now includes a yellow instruction card with the pedals explaining this as a reminder to people assembling the bike. Here is a good hint for everyone ... to tighten pedals you ALWAYS turn them towards the front wheek of the bike, regardless of being on the left or right side of the bike. A very small amount of grease on the starting threads of the pedal shafts will also help. Always thread the pedals in by hand to ensure they are not cross threaded, and tighten with a pedal wrench. Schwinn now also includes an actual pedal wrench with the bike instead of that "wonky" little wrench, Phillip screwdriver combo. One more item of interest to both Schwinn and Eschelon users as there is an app for both IOS and Android out there called Qdomyos-Zwift or "QZ"for short. It is an independent app not associated with any manufacturer or Zwift (despite the name). The app is awesome and gives you a lot of info that the Schwinn IC4 cannot such as Power in Watts, a numerical Cadence measurement and resistance conversions for Peleton and Zwift. I have also heard a lot of reliability complaints also about Eschelons app being poor. QZ can be used as a direct replacement for Eschelons app not requiring the user to use Eschelon's app at all. It also supports Auto resistance. You no longer have to solely rely on Eschelons app! Qz or Qdomyos-Zwift supports a wide range of bike brands and hardware via Bluetooth and Ant+ (on Android) connectivity. It also interfaces withe apps such as Peleton and Zwift and others. Details in your app stores and the Qdomyos-zwift group on Facebook. The app and its developer and user base is awesome!
We tackled assembling the bike as a family project. ruclips.net/user/postUgkxzg0clhbtRf2gGxPkVETFKJJKGqdsorQu The package is heavy, but I have 2 teen boys that were able to move it. The written instructions were great- we didn't need to watch the videos, but it was good knowing that the option was there if we needed it. After we were able to get it set up, the boys each rode 3 miles and I rode 8 and the bike stayed quiet. The display is easy to reset, and you can put it on whichever setting you are using (time, distance, calories, etc). I will say that my butt is a little sore from the seat, but that could be because I haven't rode in a while. While it is comfortable for me, it was not comfortable with the seat position for my friend (could not move the seat back far enough and he slightly looked like a kid riding a tricycle that he had outgrown). He also said that the seat hurt his manly parts. We are going to look for a different seat that will be compatible with this bike for him.I did purchase the Wahoo Cadence sensor and strapped it to the crank of one of the pedals. This will sync with my Apple Watch, iPhone and will import data in to my Health app. Wahoo does have other sensors available other than cadence. I can also keep either my phone or my iPad on the display and they both feel pretty secure.
This is such a cool feature to this video thank you so much. I'm not really a technical or advanced rider so the connectivity, smoothness, comfort, and ease of use were more important to me. It was nice to be able to bounce around. I still haven't made up my mind but this video was super helpful and I'll definitely buy through your links.
Did use your link and got the IC4. Watched your various IC4 comparisons and looked at all the Costco offering videos too. Thank you for all the work you put into those. For me having the bike not tied to any one app was a plus. The build quality, all metrics in one compact view, and even the little details like weights/water bottle holder + free heart rate monitor was a plus. Just wanted exercise hardware I could get on and get going, no tweaking needed. My software of choice is the Peloton app which IMO is the best for now, most engaging and most likely to keep me going. Simpler is better in my case. If that changes in the near future, at least I won't have to buy all new hardware for it. Thanks again.
Hi! your videos are great. One thing I'm trying to find is the seat height on the Echelon EX-15 at its lowest setting. You measured it at the highest but not the lowest. I'm 5 feet tall and I would like to know if this bike would be a good fit for me.
I don’t have the IC4 to compare but I do have the Connect Sport and it’s silent. We have it in a nook in our hallway and my husband rides it at 6am outside our bedrooms. The only sound that we hear is his shoes clipping in, which of course is going to happen on any bike when you clip in.
Hey, thanks for the great comparison. Can you please measure the min-height(inseam measurement) of the Echelon Bike in inch? My wife is short 4'11 and I'd like to know if it fits her. Thanks in advance!
Great review..I think the prime is now the sport..comparing the two..I think the Ic4 is a little better..I have checked out the blowflex and the ice and they are the same company..ic4 has less flash..what in your option is the best bike of the 3 Ic4.. blowfex..echelon sport ?
@tailhappyTV Thank you so much for the detailed comparison! Quick question, does the Schwinn IC4 needs to be plug in for the screen? I thought it's battery power but I see some power cable on the floor next to it so I'm not sure if it needs to have that?
Hello, I just got the ex-15 and I'm finding the resistance is not what I thought it would be. In your opinion does the Joroto have stronger resistance than the connect bike?
Great video! I'll be investing in my first bike and I'm leaning towards the Echelon but also the Yesoul. One of my concerns is the Echelon handlebars aren't adjustable horizontally, bringing them towards me since I'm 5'2" with short arms. After watching you in the smallest settings it seems it could be fine. What do you think?
Thanks for the efforts and info of the vids. Your video info was used to purchase an echelon connect. Unfortunately their newest app update sucks making a cel phone nonviewable/ unusable. Please do an airplane mode metrics display video that makes my new purchase usable. Echelon customer service has not repaired the app nor offered a viable answer.
the price difference here in the UK is approximately $270 more for the Schwinn, with that in mind, would you go Schwinn or Echelon? as I can't make up my mind.
Hey, great video. I was curious if you are concerned at all about the potential life span of the echelon? The Schwinn seems to be a better quality build, and their respective warranties appear to speak to that as well. That said, I did pick up the Walmart version today!
i dont mean to be so offtopic but does anyone know a way to get back into an Instagram account..? I somehow lost my account password. I love any tips you can offer me.
@Deangelo Langston thanks for your reply. I found the site thru google and Im trying it out atm. Seems to take quite some time so I will get back to you later with my results.
Great review. Thanks. I am 4’11”. Short reach to handlebars. Like to be more upright due to back issues. Is the IC4 going to be adjustable to my needs?
If you have a chance to compare the Schwinn IC4 with the Sunny Evolution PRO II SF-B1986, 40lbs flywheel, dumbbell holder, pulse sensor, computer for cadence, cage/SPD pedals, around $800.
Hi there - Amazing review. Thank you. I've been reading a lot about the inconsistency of IC4 when pairing with Zwift. Any thoughts on that? And how that might compare against simply adding either Wahoo Cadence / Speed meter, or for better accuracy, power pedals on top of Echelon Sport Connect? Thank you.
Thank you again for the excellent comparison!! I don't know if this would be a video idea for ya? (I'm completely new to this so I've been just research for days) I read that the peloton app is better on apple ios devices vs android, that the interface is nicer?? I only have owned Android device never got in on the apple.. would you know if it is better? Thanks again for your vid comparison
What is the best bike under $1000 with magnetic resistance, a versatile holder for a Surface Pro or Ipad, excellent warranty and customer service? Thanks. I enjoy your videos but need help coming to a decision.
Hello, I am also 6 feet 5 but with 260lb and I am looking for a position alternative that doesn't come with pedal issues such as clicking noises which I think the ic4 has. Any suggestions ?
If you want the ic4 I'd go for it and just swap the pedals out if you dont like them. The ic4 is a nice bike and I dont have any clicking issues with the pedals. A lot of times clicking noise from the pedals is a result of the pedal not being properly tightened. Hope this helps. The sunny bike also is good for tall people like you and I.
@@TailHappyTV I did some workouts where instructor wanted me to change gear very fast every 10 seconds for a min straight. It was a bit cumbersome.. good to know about ic4
@@matase for sure, I'll be sure to comment on this in my review if the schwinn and any future echelon videos, thank you for bringing this to my attention
Great video! Almost ready to buy the echelon based on your side by side comparison. Did you ever find a solution for the clicking on the echelon from your previous video?
For what it’s worth, I’ve had the Connect sport since July 2020 and haven’t had any clicking. I’m also in a FB group that is purely for Echelon owners who use the Peloton app-most of the group members having the sport-and most don’t have that issue (though there are a few, but they have gotten their bikes replaced by echelon or Walmart).
@@pawsvt No, not really. If you have an ipad that can do picture in picture then you can just use one device. There is even an app called Qdomyos that will convert resistance for you so that you can easily follow along. I injured myself so haven't ridden in a while, but over a year later, I still wouldn't buy a Peloton and my best friend has one so I've tried the real deal a few times. I think my bike is very close to hers in comfort and looks and so for me, the extra $1500 just isn't worth it, but then it might be for some people, so it's just personal preference. If you're on Facebook, join the group " Peloton Digital App users + Echelon Bike Riders" and you can get your questions answered there.
@@TailHappyTV Im 100% waiting for prime day the next 2 days to see if one goes on sale. Thanks so much for all the good content. Ill use your link! I think either will work well with zwift. I MTB a lot so I like the higher resistance in the IC4. but maybe not 300$ more
I did my first class on echelon sport from Walmart. I feel like max resistance could be higher. I found this video because I was looking at ic4 comparison. From what it sounds like, 400 bucks more for ic4 may not be worth it just for slightly higher feeling resistance right? Do you know of any other bikes under $1000 with higher feeling resistance?
i have the EX15 and tested the max resistance. To be honest I cannot imagine anyone actually using the max resistance except just to test it. I use the Peloton classes and for average resistance to get your heart rate up they use around 50-60. Then you recover around 35.
Very thorough and useful review. Thank you. Between the Schwinn IC4 and Echelon EX4S, it sounds like the Echelon may be more bang for your buck, agreed?
Brian, it could be depending on whether you like the additional features of the IC4. I have the connect sport and it really is a great bike-I love it. However, I agree with most of the points in this video. Personally I’d prefer to be able to move the handlebars horizontally (but I’m short). I think I might also prefer the water bottle holders on the IC4 to the ones on my sport. I also spent $80 on dual pedals (one side caged/one side clipped) and $100 on a scosche heart monitor and both of those things are included with an IC4. And depending on whether or not you use classes for your riding, that’s a consideration too. We use an old iPhone to run our Echelon app and see metrics. We use an old iPad to run Peloton classes. Both of these devices live on our bike and stay plugged in. With the IC4 you don’t need a second device to see your metrics so that could be a perk depending on whether or not you have two devices already to run your Echelon metrics and a class or you have to buy a second device. Maybe those things aren’t issues for you but good to know about as it would up the overall cost of an Echelon. I didn’t want to spend $900 on a spin bike as I had no idea if I’d like spinning enough to justify that, but for me, now I think I’d like some of the features the IC4 offers.
@@JustAlurker-v4e Actually clipless pedals may be useful for novices because it forces you to put your feet in the correct position on the pedals. You should be on the balls of your feet like when you’re standing on tip toes. But once you place your feet in the proper position, you don’t actually need clip-ins because in the real world practically nobody pulls up on the pedals on the upstroke.
@@JustAlurker-v4e Actually for newbie cyclists clip-ins are useful because it forces you to put your foot on the pedal in the right position: on the balls of your feet, as if you were on tiptoes. But once you do that, they don’t really serve a useful purpose for 99% of the time. In the real world practically nobody pulls up on the pedals on the upstroke. I know some people just feel better being clipped in, so to each their own.
Tailhappy could you do a vid comparison between the joroto x2 and echelon sport? And if not, if you dont plan on doing one, what are your off the top of your head thoughts on both, any preferences/positives to each bike? Did you like 1 more than another?
I love my Schwinn IC4, I have had it only a few weeks. Just wanted to pass along a few things I have noticed...
There have been a lot of complaints about the pedals coming loose and stripping on the IC4, most of these I believe are due to improper installation. As of the time I purchased my bike in Dec 2021, it appears that Schwinn made a few changes. The crank arms now appear to have a threaded steel insert pressed into them and do not have the threads cut directly into the aluminum crank arm, this will make them more durable and less likely someone will thread them in wrong and crossthread them since the steel threads in the inserts are harder than the threads in the soft aluminum of the crank arm.
The pedal shafts appear to be slightly redesigned as they are different than the ones on the stores display model. They also include blue lock time on the threads to keep them tight.
People still need to realize the left pedal has a left had thread and the right pedal had a right hand thread to tighten. The pedals are marked L for left and R for right just as the crankshaft are just match the up when installing. Schwinn now includes a yellow instruction card with the pedals explaining this as a reminder to people assembling the bike. Here is a good hint for everyone ... to tighten pedals you ALWAYS turn them towards the front wheek of the bike, regardless of being on the left or right side of the bike. A very small amount of grease on the starting threads of the pedal shafts will also help. Always thread the pedals in by hand to ensure they are not cross threaded, and tighten with a pedal wrench. Schwinn now also includes an actual pedal wrench with the bike instead of that "wonky" little wrench, Phillip screwdriver combo.
One more item of interest to both Schwinn and Eschelon users as there is an app for both IOS and Android out there called Qdomyos-Zwift or "QZ"for short. It is an independent app not associated with any manufacturer or Zwift (despite the name). The app is awesome and gives you a lot of info that the Schwinn IC4 cannot such as Power in Watts, a numerical Cadence measurement and resistance conversions for Peleton and Zwift. I have also heard a lot of reliability complaints also about Eschelons app being poor. QZ can be used as a direct replacement for Eschelons app not requiring the user to use Eschelon's app at all. It also supports Auto resistance. You no longer have to solely rely on Eschelons app!
Qz or Qdomyos-Zwift supports a wide range of bike brands and hardware via Bluetooth and Ant+ (on Android) connectivity. It also interfaces withe apps such as Peleton and Zwift and others. Details in your app stores and the Qdomyos-zwift group on Facebook. The app and its developer and user base is awesome!
We tackled assembling the bike as a family project. ruclips.net/user/postUgkxzg0clhbtRf2gGxPkVETFKJJKGqdsorQu The package is heavy, but I have 2 teen boys that were able to move it. The written instructions were great- we didn't need to watch the videos, but it was good knowing that the option was there if we needed it. After we were able to get it set up, the boys each rode 3 miles and I rode 8 and the bike stayed quiet. The display is easy to reset, and you can put it on whichever setting you are using (time, distance, calories, etc). I will say that my butt is a little sore from the seat, but that could be because I haven't rode in a while. While it is comfortable for me, it was not comfortable with the seat position for my friend (could not move the seat back far enough and he slightly looked like a kid riding a tricycle that he had outgrown). He also said that the seat hurt his manly parts. We are going to look for a different seat that will be compatible with this bike for him.I did purchase the Wahoo Cadence sensor and strapped it to the crank of one of the pedals. This will sync with my Apple Watch, iPhone and will import data in to my Health app. Wahoo does have other sensors available other than cadence. I can also keep either my phone or my iPad on the display and they both feel pretty secure.
Feel free to skip around and click like :) Chapters:
0:00 Echelon vs Schwinn
3:07 comparison start
3:55 aesthetic comparison
4:20 resistance knobs
5:50 ic4 screen metrics
8:10 echelon metrics
9:00 pedals
11:26 drive train aesthetics
13:35 handlebar for/aft adjustments
14:40 adjustments
17:24 seat comparison
18:26 water bottle holders
20:22 feet adjustments
22:20 mobility
22:55 drive train comparison
24:00 flywheel rant and botched edit
25:30 flywheel measurements
27:46 chain stay measurements
29:10 analyzing price and value
31:22 handlebars comparison
33:33 max height
35:45 min height
37:58 comparing max resistance ride feel
38:47 fixing clicking noise
42:50 max resistance and ride quality comments
44:02 ride quality at lower resistance
46:46 echelon noise
47:07 thoughts on size
47:36 flywheel inertia comparison
49:27 the BIG questions
50:35 summary and final thoughts
This is such a cool feature to this video thank you so much. I'm not really a technical or advanced rider so the connectivity, smoothness, comfort, and ease of use were more important to me. It was nice to be able to bounce around. I still haven't made up my mind but this video was super helpful and I'll definitely buy through your links.
Did use your link and got the IC4. Watched your various IC4 comparisons and looked at all the Costco offering videos too. Thank you for all the work you put into those. For me having the bike not tied to any one app was a plus. The build quality, all metrics in one compact view, and even the little details like weights/water bottle holder + free heart rate monitor was a plus. Just wanted exercise hardware I could get on and get going, no tweaking needed. My software of choice is the Peloton app which IMO is the best for now, most engaging and most likely to keep me going. Simpler is better in my case. If that changes in the near future, at least I won't have to buy all new hardware for it. Thanks again.
Forgot to mention. Price was just under $800 now for anyone looking.
Time stamps are great !
Thank you!
Hi! your videos are great. One thing I'm trying to find is the seat height on the Echelon EX-15 at its lowest setting. You measured it at the highest but not the lowest. I'm 5 feet tall and I would like to know if this bike would be a good fit for me.
Which has less noise as I live in a condo with someone below me. Great video, thank you;
I don’t have the IC4 to compare but I do have the Connect Sport and it’s silent. We have it in a nook in our hallway and my husband rides it at 6am outside our bedrooms. The only sound that we hear is his shoes clipping in, which of course is going to happen on any bike when you clip in.
Can you please provide the measurement for the seat to pedal at the lowest position for each bike? Trying to get an inseam measurement. Thx!
Thank you for all these reviews! I was all over the place and having a hard time deciding. After reviewing all I decided on the Schwinn IC4.
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Thanks for such a detailed review! Just subscribed to your channel. Your videos are so informative.
Hey, thanks for the great comparison. Can you please measure the min-height(inseam measurement) of the Echelon Bike in inch? My wife is short 4'11 and I'd like to know if it fits her. Thanks in advance!
Here I write about some best spin bikes. Plese check and read spin bike reviews. Hope it will be helpful for your spinning workouts.
Spinbikepro.com
Great comparison video. Thanks for sharing it!
Thank very much I was on a site of the best bikes compared to Pentagon.
The person who reviewed them said she like Schwinn ic4
Great review..I think the prime is now the sport..comparing the two..I think the Ic4 is a little better..I have checked out the blowflex and the ice and they are the same company..ic4 has less flash..what in your option is the best bike of the 3 Ic4.. blowfex..echelon sport ?
@tailhappyTV Thank you so much for the detailed comparison! Quick question, does the Schwinn IC4 needs to be plug in for the screen? I thought it's battery power but I see some power cable on the floor next to it so I'm not sure if it needs to have that?
Hello, I just got the ex-15 and I'm finding the resistance is not what I thought it would be. In your opinion does the Joroto have stronger resistance than the connect bike?
Great video! I'll be investing in my first bike and I'm leaning towards the Echelon but also the Yesoul. One of my concerns is the Echelon handlebars aren't adjustable horizontally, bringing them towards me since I'm 5'2" with short arms. After watching you in the smallest settings it seems it could be fine. What do you think?
I'm 4'11 how did the bike work out for you?
Great review. I just bought the Schwinn IC4 and am about to assemble it.
Thanks for the efforts and info of the vids. Your video info was used to purchase an echelon connect. Unfortunately their newest app update sucks making a cel phone nonviewable/ unusable. Please do an airplane mode metrics display video that makes my new purchase usable. Echelon customer service has not repaired the app nor offered a viable answer.
Do you mean you can't use your cell for other things other than the app when it's in use?
can you compare Schwin IC4 with echelon last 2 model
EX5-S and ex7s please
For $500, would you rather have brand new Echelon Sport or an IC4 ridden 400 times?
the price difference here in the UK is approximately $270 more for the Schwinn, with that in mind, would you go Schwinn or Echelon? as I can't make up my mind.
Hey, great video. I was curious if you are concerned at all about the potential life span of the echelon? The Schwinn seems to be a better quality build, and their respective warranties appear to speak to that as well. That said, I did pick up the Walmart version today!
i dont mean to be so offtopic but does anyone know a way to get back into an Instagram account..?
I somehow lost my account password. I love any tips you can offer me.
@Quincy Rohan Instablaster :)
@Deangelo Langston thanks for your reply. I found the site thru google and Im trying it out atm.
Seems to take quite some time so I will get back to you later with my results.
@Deangelo Langston It did the trick and I finally got access to my account again. Im so happy!
Thanks so much, you really help me out!
@Quincy Rohan glad I could help :)
Do you have a recumbent bike? I love them for their comfort. Just have to use it 15 min. longer to get the same calories burn out.
Thanks for the content
thanks for the comment!
Great review. Thanks. I am 4’11”. Short reach to handlebars. Like to be more upright due to back issues. Is the IC4 going to be adjustable to my needs?
Ic4 makes you feel like u r falling forward even when the handlebars are forward
i dont see a link for the heart rate monitor.
Which bike should be used in your opinion for seniors with knee problems? I am looking at Pro Form Trainer. Do you have any suggestions? Please reply,
If you have a chance to compare the Schwinn IC4 with the Sunny Evolution PRO II SF-B1986, 40lbs flywheel, dumbbell holder, pulse sensor, computer for cadence, cage/SPD pedals, around $800.
Hi there - Amazing review. Thank you. I've been reading a lot about the inconsistency of IC4 when pairing with Zwift. Any thoughts on that? And how that might compare against simply adding either Wahoo Cadence / Speed meter, or for better accuracy, power pedals on top of Echelon Sport Connect? Thank you.
Thank you again for the excellent comparison!! I don't know if this would be a video idea for ya?
(I'm completely new to this so I've been just research for days)
I read that the peloton app is better on apple ios devices vs android, that the interface is nicer?? I only have owned Android device never got in on the apple.. would you know if it is better?
Thanks again for your vid comparison
I've contacted Peloton directly and the iOS has more functionality than Android: you can connect a cadence sensor to the app.
This is great! I’ve considered the IC4 for a while now.
It's a good machine, I have a full review coming soon
What is the best bike under $1000 with magnetic resistance, a versatile holder for a Surface Pro or Ipad, excellent warranty and customer service? Thanks. I enjoy your videos but need help coming to a decision.
Does the Echelon connect to apple fitness or iFit? Didn’t it use to come with 1 year of iFit? Thank you.
The Schwinn wins it for me.
I think the bike .that has the red pedals Looks the best
It’s a shame there isn’t an easy way to measure max resistance in order compare
Thanks for a great review. In the future ease up on the sudden camera movements...my head is spinning, no pun intended.
Thanks Colleen, will take that into consideration, thanks for your feedback!
hello, do you know if echelon ex 15 is available in europe?
Hello, I am also 6 feet 5 but with 260lb and I am looking for a position alternative that doesn't come with pedal issues such as clicking noises which I think the ic4 has. Any suggestions ?
If you want the ic4 I'd go for it and just swap the pedals out if you dont like them. The ic4 is a nice bike and I dont have any clicking issues with the pedals. A lot of times clicking noise from the pedals is a result of the pedal not being properly tightened. Hope this helps. The sunny bike also is good for tall people like you and I.
Is the number of resistance knob turns from zero to max similar? I find it a bit cumbersome on the echelon having it to turn a lot for quick jumps.
The schwinn adjust much quicker, about 4 rotations brings you from 0 to 100
@@TailHappyTV I did some workouts where instructor wanted me to change gear very fast every 10 seconds for a min straight. It was a bit cumbersome.. good to know about ic4
@@matase for sure, I'll be sure to comment on this in my review if the schwinn and any future echelon videos, thank you for bringing this to my attention
Great video! Almost ready to buy the echelon based on your side by side comparison. Did you ever find a solution for the clicking on the echelon from your previous video?
Never figured out the Walmart echelon clicking, but the Amazon echelon doesn't have the same clicking. It may have been the pedal, but I'm not sure.
And thank you!
For what it’s worth, I’ve had the Connect sport since July 2020 and haven’t had any clicking. I’m also in a FB group that is purely for Echelon owners who use the Peloton app-most of the group members having the sport-and most don’t have that issue (though there are a few, but they have gotten their bikes replaced by echelon or Walmart).
@@MeganBarry1981 do you find it frustrating to have to have two devices to use peloton? It feels clumsy but I'm also not sure it's worth $500
@@pawsvt No, not really. If you have an ipad that can do picture in picture then you can just use one device. There is even an app called Qdomyos that will convert resistance for you so that you can easily follow along. I injured myself so haven't ridden in a while, but over a year later, I still wouldn't buy a Peloton and my best friend has one so I've tried the real deal a few times. I think my bike is very close to hers in comfort and looks and so for me, the extra $1500 just isn't worth it, but then it might be for some people, so it's just personal preference. If you're on Facebook, join the group "
Peloton Digital App users + Echelon Bike Riders" and you can get your questions answered there.
Im basically down to buying one of these 2
Links are below, prime day is soon, maybe they’ll be on sale?
@@TailHappyTV Im 100% waiting for prime day the next 2 days to see if one goes on sale. Thanks so much for all the good content. Ill use your link! I think either will work well with zwift. I MTB a lot so I like the higher resistance in the IC4. but maybe not 300$ more
@@TailHappyTV do you have a link for Echelon EX3 anywhere? its 200 for 599 atm. seems like a good in between these 2 options.
I did my first class on echelon sport from Walmart. I feel like max resistance could be higher. I found this video because I was looking at ic4 comparison. From what it sounds like, 400 bucks more for ic4 may not be worth it just for slightly higher feeling resistance right? Do you know of any other bikes under $1000 with higher feeling resistance?
I am staying clear of the E. Sport because of the flywheel. I am afraid its not enough resistance for me... I'm leaning towards the Schwinn
i have the EX15 and tested the max resistance. To be honest I cannot imagine anyone actually using the max resistance except just to test it. I use the Peloton classes and for average resistance to get your heart rate up they use around 50-60. Then you recover around 35.
The Sunny 1805 seems like a better option for $600. He said the resistance is much more comparable to the peloton
How much does it cost to use the echelon app? Also, can you download your stats from the echelon app to training peaks, etc?
Echelon app is free if you choose free ride, the website has the costs for apps listed
I got 6 months free with my purchase of the connect fit from walmart. The membership that was included with the bike was the 19.99$ membership
Very thorough and useful review. Thank you. Between the Schwinn IC4 and Echelon EX4S, it sounds like the Echelon may be more bang for your buck, agreed?
Brian, it could be depending on whether you like the additional features of the IC4. I have the connect sport and it really is a great bike-I love it. However, I agree with most of the points in this video. Personally I’d prefer to be able to move the handlebars horizontally (but I’m short). I think I might also prefer the water bottle holders on the IC4 to the ones on my sport. I also spent $80 on dual pedals (one side caged/one side clipped) and $100 on a scosche heart monitor and both of those things are included with an IC4. And depending on whether or not you use classes for your riding, that’s a consideration too. We use an old iPhone to run our Echelon app and see metrics. We use an old iPad to run Peloton classes. Both of these devices live on our bike and stay plugged in. With the IC4 you don’t need a second device to see your metrics so that could be a perk depending on whether or not you have two devices already to run your Echelon metrics and a class or you have to buy a second device. Maybe those things aren’t issues for you but good to know about as it would up the overall cost of an Echelon.
I didn’t want to spend $900 on a spin bike as I had no idea if I’d like spinning enough to justify that, but for me, now I think I’d like some of the features the IC4 offers.
also hearing a lot of problems with the Schwinn IC4 and having bad customer service
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@@TailHappyTV schwinn IC3 vs Echelon connect sport.. I know u don't have the 3 but u have the 4 and if u had to guess lol which 1 is better?
@@mimiwildin9088 I'd go with the echelon for the magnetic resistance
@@TailHappyTV thank u
If I may say so, being clipped in is highly over-rated.
I’m curious why? I haven’t tried it yet.
@@JustAlurker-v4e Actually clipless pedals may be useful for novices because it forces you to put your feet in the correct position on the pedals. You should be on the balls of your feet like when you’re standing on tip toes.
But once you place your feet in the proper position, you don’t actually need clip-ins because in the real world practically nobody pulls up on the pedals on the upstroke.
@@JustAlurker-v4e Actually for newbie cyclists clip-ins are useful because it forces you to put your foot on the pedal in the right position: on the balls of your feet, as if you were on tiptoes. But once you do that, they don’t really serve a useful purpose for 99% of the time. In the real world practically nobody pulls up on the pedals on the upstroke. I know some people just feel better being clipped in, so to each their own.
Have you done a review on the Keiser M3i by chance? Thanks much!
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what a great place to hang your washing. bit expensive but still.. what a class
Can you compare which one is better for short people?
What are your thoughts in ic4 vs the Walmart echelon sport connect since the prime isn’t currently available? Thanks.
I made a video comparing the prime to the Walmart bike
Tailhappy could you do a vid comparison between the joroto x2 and echelon sport? And if not, if you dont plan on doing one, what are your off the top of your head thoughts on both, any preferences/positives to each bike? Did you like 1 more than another?
@@TailHappyTV please reply, thanks bro.
@@kinglll5604 check out my echelon ex15 reviews, same bike.
What shoes are you wearing? I like them and am looking for a pair. Thanks!
they are New Balance, they are like 3 years old actually haha, not sure if they still sell them. edit: here they are amzn.to/3qkXq9i
@@TailHappyTV Thanks!
What happened to echelon ex? I tried the link and it goes to a page that says uh oh.
Maria, it's still not back in stock yet, but I get the feeling it will be ready to buy again very soon.
The majority of people will use a mat under the bike.
very true, that's a good point!
Not really.
why dont you have video about the YOSUDA Indoor Cycling Bike Stationary?? That's pretty popular on amazon
I literally just published it 30 mins ago lol
Verrückt wie jemand soviel über sowas absurdes erzählen kann.. und der meint es auch noch voll ernst.. ich wünschte ich hätte das nie anhören müssen..