@@badnoodlez pike...haleberd...glave...spear...javelin...raven's beak...knitting needle...fireplace poker...my mom's broom handle.... Awwww crap I just broke another lamp😬
One thing to note is that in medieval times, they were not that concerned with terms. The reason terms may be confused or overlapping today is because back then, they just weren’t that concerned with it to streamline it consistently. We only see any semblance of clear definition in duelling manuals, which is just for bored and/or offended nobles, not for war.
One additional thing though is the reason for why people are so concerned with sword terminology today. Folks nowadays are interested in learning about a huge variety of weapons from various cultures and regions that, while similar, are also distinct. Having a specific term for things can add clarity to a discussion.
@@MadcowdiseizBoth your guys comment really added awesome insight into a subject I figured I already understood most of. From my 2024 perspective, I'd have never imagined they didn't care much about the names. It's also a great point that we're able to research weapons from around the world while they more or less had to work from the fraction that was local to their region. If I had to play devils advocate, I think some combat knights took inspiration from the manuals. I bet some of the people they knew personally were the ones writing the books in the first place. If a boxer or ufc fighter released a book on his techniques, I bet other fighters would take an interest. Any learned swordsman is going to read up on his craft. At least that's very common for war veterans from today and on the recent past. I doubt it's changed that much.
I think we know what sellsword arts means by reverse grip is referring to it being used with one hand like in anime as that’s what way everyone is fixated on. But i still call it a win for Robinswords for technically finding an effective reverse grip style.
Oh, certainly. They've defined the reverse grip they're examining pretty clearly, but to do so they necessarily had to exclude a plethora of technically reversed grips to establish that. I think the fact that they had to be excluded in the first place indicates a consideration that they do constitute a reverse grip, if not necessarily The Reverse Grip (tm).
@@robinswords yeah, they aren’t testing the theory of a reverse grip but instead disproving their own specific idea of a reverse grip that they don’t like. It’s like when a cereal company pays an investigation to prove their product is healthy… well of course they will say it’s healthy because that’s the narrative they are paid to push.
Isn't Sellsword Arts a bunch of stunt actors who talk out their asses about sword usage rather than leaving it to the actual scholars, martial artists, and soldiers?
@@totally_not_a_bot Sellsword Arts combines both stunt work, and why it is done a particular way, with actual studies into fighting manuals, often referring to particular books/masters while describing a technique or why a particular movement is done. Their goal seems to be to bring more realistic techniques to staged/choreographed combat by showing how realistic movement can look better than the normal stuntwork. Also, never discount the work of those who are not in the communities you mentioned. For instance, many archaeological artifacts and sites were discovered by those who don't fall within the so called "educated" communities, but would have been discounted according to your statement. The same is true for other discoveries such as relativity (Einstein worked in a patent office at the time, not as a scholar or scientist), or galvanized rubber (Ford was not a scientist, merely a guy trying to find a better rubber for tires). Sometimes it isn't the experts asking the right questions, but outsiders asking the question those too close never thought of.
@@totally_not_a_bot while there's a severe lack of popular RUclipsrs with a formal education on the subject, there's no historical reference and in fact significant disadvantages, based on common sense really, to using reverse grip.
The m glad you when for the “language is malleable” option rather than the “well ackshually) option. You’ve gotta be one of my favorite sword channels on RUclips. Definitely my favorite sword shorts creator.
Alright, then I shall call that particular grip for that particular sword "reverse-grip halfswording". Because, well, that's kind of what it is: it's a little bit of both.
I tend to call it the same as Meyer's staff/halberd guard positions. You're using the greatsword as a staff anyway so why not adopt the same naming conventions.
technicaly that is what it is. with two hands the reverse grip would be having both hands reversed. in the staff position, your non dominant hand helps your leading hand to execute the move, and by doing so, it does not act in the same way as the sword would if you used it with one hand reversed grip or with both hands reversed grip. that's why in terminology as long as both hands does not hold the sword reverse grip, it is considered half swordind.
He could really grab any of his large bladed weapons, or if he has any maces he could probably grab a lot of those too, I suspect the reaction would be screaming and running as somebody charges you down with a great sword
@@datboi46523 The part of the blade behind the lugs (or "wings") isn't sharpened. It was made that way specifically for this, and the lugs protect the hand as well as just generally making binding with your opponent safer no matter what way you hold it. As for how he grips the sharpened portions of the blade? Just don't let your hand slide and grip that motherfucker with all you're worth. Skallagrim made a great video years ago demonstrating that it's actually totally safe, as he bludgeons a tire with a sword he proves is sharp.
Bruh, Robin is just the most wholesome sword nerd on RUclips. Good man, ya can tell! Every other sword guy is just condescending, rude, or holier than thou. And Robin is just such a breath of fresh air dude XD He's definitely the Bob Ross of Mr. Rogers of swords loool
People often have problems with thinking there is only ever one solution or correct answer to a problem. Many times, as in this case, there are multiple correct terminologies or solutions.
I always go back to that scene in kingdom of heaven when Liam Neeson feints a strike and hits his son with the pommel and says “Always remember there’s more to a serif than just the blade” Always reminds me that at the end of the day the weapon in your hand can be used however you want as long as it’s still usable for you another great quote I love is from Clash of the titans “A weapon shouldn’t be some external thing you wield its should be fluid and in constant motion once you pick it up is an extension of you and your body” So wielding a weapon however you feel as long as it works is ironically Historical and accurate in more cases than not
Every decision I took in my life took me here. Watching a young Walter White explaining me something about a kind of sword that I don't even like (as a short and lightweight person I hate big and heavy swords. I'm a cutlass maniac for the simple reason that it's small and light enough for me to wield it without looking absolutely ridiculous)
Sword nerd is a term i havent heard in years. Had a friend in our group whos brother walked around with a sword everywhere he could. Cut on trees bushes or whatever was near him. We joked on him for years then he joined the marines and became force recon. He is a bad dude but i still bust his balls when i see him even though he would destroy me.
This movie is the equivalent of 2005's The Ringer starring Jackass's Johnny Knoxville showing up a generation late saying "How do you do fellow Controversial Films".
Ya know. In martial arts the children used to care what the kicks were called. By 14 I was in tournament sparring and they used dozens of words interchangably because all that mattered was that you understood your coach or instructor. After highschool half the guys would just say "this" or "that" while showing you. When you go from reading and hearing to real practice, the jargon no longer matters pretty fast. That kick will hit no matter how poorly I speak
“We’re all a bunch of sword nerds here, just call it what you want” if only everyone had this mindset.
He's wrong.
We're all secretly polearm nerds and it's a matter of time 😂
@@badnoodlez
BIG STICK with POINTY/SHARP ENDS!
ACKSHUALLY 🤓...
@@badnoodlez pike...haleberd...glave...spear...javelin...raven's beak...knitting needle...fireplace poker...my mom's broom handle....
Awwww crap I just broke another lamp😬
Yeah, most of us know the people who actually used them historically likely weren't nearly as technical about classification as we are anyway
Damn, he got that Walter White drip
Jesse we need to fence
Jesse, we need to smith
He does but just for that pfp I think his sword would do a great job at ending your life
Looks like an off brand Harry Potter who took to blade fighting instead of spell fighting. Still love him, though.
“I AM THE ONE WHO REVERSE GRIPS!”
One thing to note is that in medieval times, they were not that concerned with terms. The reason terms may be confused or overlapping today is because back then, they just weren’t that concerned with it to streamline it consistently. We only see any semblance of clear definition in duelling manuals, which is just for bored and/or offended nobles, not for war.
One additional thing though is the reason for why people are so concerned with sword terminology today. Folks nowadays are interested in learning about a huge variety of weapons from various cultures and regions that, while similar, are also distinct. Having a specific term for things can add clarity to a discussion.
@@MadcowdiseizBoth your guys comment really added awesome insight into a subject I figured I already understood most of. From my 2024 perspective, I'd have never imagined they didn't care much about the names. It's also a great point that we're able to research weapons from around the world while they more or less had to work from the fraction that was local to their region. If I had to play devils advocate, I think some combat knights took inspiration from the manuals. I bet some of the people they knew personally were the ones writing the books in the first place. If a boxer or ufc fighter released a book on his techniques, I bet other fighters would take an interest. Any learned swordsman is going to read up on his craft. At least that's very common for war veterans from today and on the recent past. I doubt it's changed that much.
"Just call it what you want"
I call it....The Bamboozler
Ah yes, the Splatoon weapon.
@@ThatGamer11 Once you get down to it, everything is a Bamboozler.
Why does Clark Kent even need a sword?
Lol. Superman with a sword would actually be dope as hell, he'd be able to cut a lot of shit in half that normal ppl couldn't dream of
Without worrying about the blade breaking and hitting him
Gotta give them a chance somehow
He just likes swords
Do you not know of the Sword of Superman?
"two handed 1/3 sworded psuedo reverse grib"
Sounds like an anime technique
Finally the proper defination!!
Grib
Very jazzy
grib, russian for, i believe, mushroom
bro looks like that one cool history teacher we all had in middle school
man i want to meet your history teacher if he was fuckin bringing swords in to class
Very well-spoken, well mannered swordsman 😂
"Call it What You Want" is unfortunately overshadowed by the iconic "Pumped Up Kicks"
Do you have a cat?
What is happening
Personally I’m a big fan of Houdini
@@griffingeary3356 same here
Best friend is personally the goat
Aaaaaaaaand officially my favorite sword guy on RUclips. Your thoughts on terminology are like fucking sunshine.
Says the "Thagomizer" - absolute perfection! 😂
(Also: I wholeheartedly agree!)
Welcome to the club
"We're all just a bunch of sword nerds here. Just call it what you want." ~the line that got me to hit that Subscribe button
Don’t hump the sunshine!!!
"Is it half-swording or reverse-grip?"
"Yes."
Probably
Walter White teaching us about swords.
Ok so this is really informative and all but can we just take a moment to appreciate how BEAUTIFUL that sword is
Facts. Gorgeous work
Absolutely stunning
I think we know what sellsword arts means by reverse grip is referring to it being used with one hand like in anime as that’s what way everyone is fixated on. But i still call it a win for Robinswords for technically finding an effective reverse grip style.
Oh, certainly. They've defined the reverse grip they're examining pretty clearly, but to do so they necessarily had to exclude a plethora of technically reversed grips to establish that. I think the fact that they had to be excluded in the first place indicates a consideration that they do constitute a reverse grip, if not necessarily The Reverse Grip (tm).
@@robinswords yeah, they aren’t testing the theory of a reverse grip but instead disproving their own specific idea of a reverse grip that they don’t like.
It’s like when a cereal company pays an investigation to prove their product is healthy… well of course they will say it’s healthy because that’s the narrative they are paid to push.
Isn't Sellsword Arts a bunch of stunt actors who talk out their asses about sword usage rather than leaving it to the actual scholars, martial artists, and soldiers?
@@totally_not_a_bot Sellsword Arts combines both stunt work, and why it is done a particular way, with actual studies into fighting manuals, often referring to particular books/masters while describing a technique or why a particular movement is done. Their goal seems to be to bring more realistic techniques to staged/choreographed combat by showing how realistic movement can look better than the normal stuntwork.
Also, never discount the work of those who are not in the communities you mentioned. For instance, many archaeological artifacts and sites were discovered by those who don't fall within the so called "educated" communities, but would have been discounted according to your statement. The same is true for other discoveries such as relativity (Einstein worked in a patent office at the time, not as a scholar or scientist), or galvanized rubber (Ford was not a scientist, merely a guy trying to find a better rubber for tires). Sometimes it isn't the experts asking the right questions, but outsiders asking the question those too close never thought of.
@@totally_not_a_bot while there's a severe lack of popular RUclipsrs with a formal education on the subject, there's no historical reference and in fact significant disadvantages, based on common sense really, to using reverse grip.
The m glad you when for the “language is malleable” option rather than the “well ackshually) option. You’ve gotta be one of my favorite sword channels on RUclips. Definitely my favorite sword shorts creator.
cool pfp, solidarity
That cardinal in the backround tho! Great bird
we'z call it krumpin wif a choppa
Based orks
My favorite heretics of them all
*angry yarrick noises*
WAAAAGHHH!
OI WHY IZ YU WHIZPERIN?!! DIS HUMIE KANT EVEN HOLD A REAL CHOPPA, DATS A TOOFPIK 😂😊
Medieval NileRed just doing what he loves
he's the main character
Alright, then I shall call that particular grip for that particular sword "reverse-grip halfswording". Because, well, that's kind of what it is: it's a little bit of both.
agreed. it is primarily reverse grip with half-swording technique applied overtop.
reverse-sword halfgrip
half-reverse gripswording
sword-grip reversehalf
I tend to call it the same as Meyer's staff/halberd guard positions. You're using the greatsword as a staff anyway so why not adopt the same naming conventions.
That's a sensible approach
technicaly that is what it is.
with two hands the reverse grip would be having both hands reversed. in the staff position, your non dominant hand helps your leading hand to execute the move, and by doing so, it does not act in the same way as the sword would if you used it with one hand reversed grip or with both hands reversed grip.
that's why in terminology as long as both hands does not hold the sword reverse grip, it is considered half swordind.
@@robinswordshow do you grab the blade without cutting your hands?😅
@@datboi46523 It actually only cuts you if you have a loose grip and the blade slides around a lot.
@@datboi46523you are holding the flat of the blade, on the sides
"We're all a bunch of sword nerds here, just call it what you want"
Imma call it, "Greg"
All hail “Greg”
What about... Jeff?
@@MegaPokefan97 All hail… Jeff?
It's two things at once. I'll call it Jegg
@@MegaPokefan97Geoff
That final point, "Just call it what you want." Exactly! Thank you!
I like your emphasis on what the dominant hand is doing, but even more so your view on malleable terms.
I mean gripping the Greatsword blade under the spike is very normal usage, many greatswords even have leather or cloth covering on those sections!
I love that Clark's secret hobby seemingly is HEMA.
I like to imagine him just geeking out with Bruce about swords and medieval weaponry
😅
My mans ready for close quarters combat at the custody hearing he’s heading to 🤣
Nooooo not the domestic disputes nooooo!
Call it whatever I want?
Holding a sword. There, I solved everyone’s problem
"We're all a bunch of sword nerds here"
He spoke the truth, and we all know it.
Imagine someone’s trying to rob this guy’s house and he just pulls out a double bladed sword
He could really grab any of his large bladed weapons, or if he has any maces he could probably grab a lot of those too, I suspect the reaction would be screaming and running as somebody charges you down with a great sword
Zweis are always so gorgeous. Thanks for sharing.
When your doctor has to put down the demon you summoned to give you your medical bill
“We’re all just a bunch of sword nerds here, just call it what you want.” Amen.
Well there is a mittle of the blade just like the Italian mezza spada
At the very least the wording is there.
I'd personally call it "Reversed Half-sword"
I think that fits fairly well.
I second this.
Exactly, why can’t it fit both?
how does he grab the blade without cutting his hands?😅
@@datboi46523 The part of the blade behind the lugs (or "wings") isn't sharpened. It was made that way specifically for this, and the lugs protect the hand as well as just generally making binding with your opponent safer no matter what way you hold it.
As for how he grips the sharpened portions of the blade? Just don't let your hand slide and grip that motherfucker with all you're worth. Skallagrim made a great video years ago demonstrating that it's actually totally safe, as he bludgeons a tire with a sword he proves is sharp.
@@kylestanley7843 thanks, you know a lot about this subject
That outfit was actually cool
Methinks reverse half-swording could suffice, for it seems to fit criteria needed for both sword grips
Hi. Could you make a video on how sharp medieval sword types were? I mean we have a vague idea but I think you are educated enough to figure it out...
He has one!
Sharp enough to commit mass stabby go slashy
“I don’t much care for strict definition” my brother, you stumbled into the wrong internet then 😂
"How big is your sword?"
"Person sized."
Distinguished gentleman teaching people about medieval weapons
half grip
Actually like using this grip on my katana because of how long the grip is. Been thinking about getting a nagamaki handle to experiment more with it.
This is what Jim from accounting does behind our office building on his lunch break.
I like to call it "ow shit my finger" grip, which coincides with my favourite reload method of M1 Garands: "ow shit my thumb"
What are your thoughts on Vengarls armor in Ds2? It seems more viking like but I wonder if it is atleast practical
Reverse Half sword.
Man looks like Clark kent wielding a sword.
This is just medieval Clark Kent, you’re not fooling anyone. Great videos keep up the great work.
The first man ive seen with a sword I’d actually be scared off 😂👌🙏☘️💯call it whatever you want you getting chopped up 😂
Reverse grip? Impractical.
One handing a greatsword? Impractical.
One hand reverse gripping a greatsword? Ancient technique of the gods
Stop killing me, please
Bruh, Robin is just the most wholesome sword nerd on RUclips. Good man, ya can tell! Every other sword guy is just condescending, rude, or holier than thou. And Robin is just such a breath of fresh air dude XD He's definitely the Bob Ross of Mr. Rogers of swords loool
It can be both? There's no reason it can't be a reversed half-sword or a reverse choke
That was the point I was driving at. They're both valid, so call it what makes the most sense to you.
Cutie 😍
Takes one to know one
@@robinswords nahhhh cuh flirtin with the youtube commenters, bro’s down bad 💀💀💀
@@lofeofsope2542 She's my wife :)
@@robinswords oh haha
A man that can vanquish my enemies and then do my taxes :) You’re hired!
You seem like a chill dude
I am going to call that spearing or spear-holding
But you don’t hold spears like that in most instances.
@@Specter_1125 That is how I hold a spear when I am also holding a sword as a back up weapon
Bro got this sword from the graveyard
Thanks for the explanation. Love learning things.
People often have problems with thinking there is only ever one solution or correct answer to a problem. Many times, as in this case, there are multiple correct terminologies or solutions.
Exactly my kind of content. Instant sub.
Medieval Superman is what we wanted deep down
I'm trying to focus on the Sword but my brain keeps saying, "Hey, that's Clark Kent of the Daily Planet"
Reverse half n half or reverse halfie
Sounds like a skate trick
Whatever you call it, we all know you gotta infuse that bad boy with lighting or fire.
Glad to see Ned Flanders IRL
Ok, I’ll follow the geek of the medieval swords. Seems to be an interesting conversation
Bro dressed up like Walter white in the first episode of breaking bad 💀 I wonder if he's wearing tighty whities too
Never thought I'd see a 21st century man dressed as a 90s gentleman welding a mediaeval Zweihänder.
The Gentleman Knight is real.
Superman teaching me about weapon technics
Now thats a favor dream i want to learn from
The reverse grip technique really saved my life
I always go back to that scene in kingdom of heaven when Liam Neeson feints a strike and hits his son with the pommel and says
“Always remember there’s more to a serif than just the blade”
Always reminds me that at the end of the day the weapon in your hand can be used however you want as long as it’s still usable for you another great quote I love is from
Clash of the titans
“A weapon shouldn’t be some external thing you wield its should be fluid and in constant motion once you pick it up is an extension of you and your body”
So wielding a weapon however you feel as long as it works is ironically
Historical and accurate in more cases than not
I love it when Superman teaches me about swords 🥰
When he removes his glasses, he becomes KalEl
What does Clark Kent need a sword for though?
Gonna be fun for anyone breaking into this guy's house.
When Harry loses his wand
Clark Kent with a sword is more intimidating than Superman.
I always love the approach, its up to you.
If Heisenberg and Superman had a child
My dude is so Chad it hurts me. "We're all just sword nerds here, just call it what you want."
There was a cardinal chirping in the background.
If this guys in zombie apocalypse he would have found a most suitable sword for it
The "Blade of the Ruined King"
Clark kent totally not showing us kryptonian sword styles.
-So, it's Half-swording, or a Reverse Grip ?
-YES
Every decision I took in my life took me here. Watching a young Walter White explaining me something about a kind of sword that I don't even like (as a short and lightweight person I hate big and heavy swords. I'm a cutlass maniac for the simple reason that it's small and light enough for me to wield it without looking absolutely ridiculous)
Kinda crazy to see a Jimmy Olsen/Damien Wayne/Deathstroke cosplay
The halberd is literally just used like how you swim lmaoo
Bros the mordhau character irl
This is the best take
Sword nerd is a term i havent heard in years. Had a friend in our group whos brother walked around with a sword everywhere he could. Cut on trees bushes or whatever was near him. We joked on him for years then he joined the marines and became force recon. He is a bad dude but i still bust his balls when i see him even though he would destroy me.
If you have a sword this big to use in combat you aren’t a mere man, you’re a villain in a Final Fantasy game fr
Or you're chosen undead
“Say my name.”
You’re Robin Swords
You look like a secret identity of a super hero called *Super Knight.*
Is that the Blade Of The Ruined King?
Bro conquerring the undead
This movie is the equivalent of 2005's The Ringer starring Jackass's Johnny Knoxville showing up a generation late saying "How do you do fellow Controversial Films".
Ya know. In martial arts the children used to care what the kicks were called. By 14 I was in tournament sparring and they used dozens of words interchangably because all that mattered was that you understood your coach or instructor. After highschool half the guys would just say "this" or "that" while showing you. When you go from reading and hearing to real practice, the jargon no longer matters pretty fast. That kick will hit no matter how poorly I speak
While I was out at the club, he was studying the blade
Bro looks straight outta office space