Old Top Gear 2001 - Saloon Car Shootout
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- Опубликовано: 20 ноя 2016
- Vicki Butler-Hendersen & Jason Barlow take a look at all the new Saloon cars of 2001 to see which is the best.
Taken from an early 2001 episode of the old format Top Gear 
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Before the crossovera and suvs, before the dark ages
I don't know if this was before the dark ages, most of these seem pretty awful.
Crossovers were occupied by the likes of the renault scenic which was a mini mpv. suvs existed though in far smaller numbers rav 4 and cherokee had credibility back then.
Cars today are awesome! Leave the peasants with their SUVs
@@juanpablocorreiaecheverria2857 Are you saying suvs are peasant cars?
This obsession for SUVs is a joke these days. Usually some silly attention seeking woman with blonde hair, big sunglasses but best of all, the SUV is usually the front wheel drive version LOL because they cant afford the PCP payments for the AWD version. Pretentious or what. I dont need an SUV, and neither do most people. Its all about boosting the ego with the "look at me, im in a big car so I must be really special" attitude. Fucking morons. If I need to take a sheep to the vets then maybe id consider an SUV, but id sooner drive an A35 Mercedes.
1:23 MAZ 8866 is still on the road.
✓ Taxed
Tax due:
01 May 2019
✓ MOT
Expires:
30 April 2019
That is an amazing fact in knowing that all it's contemporaries are long gone off the road now!
It probably got transferred from the 626 to an MX5!
Funny when it was the first to be dissed in the video. 🤣
Still is on the road in 2023. Plate still corresponds to that 626.
Interesting how they rate the Laguna ahead of the Passat and Accord. Virtually all Lagunas have long since fallen to bits by now. The Passat (and Accord) are still going strong.
soundseeker63 passat with 1.9 TDI and 1.8T engines & Vtec Accords are only cars from this vid worth buying today.
Lagunas may not be as reliable but having driven both Passat B5 and Laguna 2, I can honestly say that Laguna 2 is miles ahead in terms of comfort, handling, power delivery (both were 1.9 diesels), technological advancement and style. As long as you remember that it's a not a German car and service it accordingly, it's gonna last just as long. In fact, I'm still driving a 2003 Laguna and it's just fine. Surprisingly, the interior and exterior are in a way better condition than most of the Passats from early 00s. Mechanically, everything's also alright, although the Passat gets its point for reliability.
If a had to choose between Laguna 2 and Passat B5, I'd definitely go with the Laguna because it's a way nicer car to drive.
Because in UK only buy diesel, and that was terrible in the Laguna... The petrol are much more reliable, far cheaper spares than any passat and the accord just rid off by rust... Sadly they ruined the good reliable MK1 with that dCi
Hah. Here in Poland the Lagunas are still standing strong, and I don't think they'll go away faster than Passats and Accords. Those two are in a race of who rusts faster, while the Laguna is aluminium
@@GinsengStrip-wt8bl Nah, those Nissans are reliable aswell
Still driving my 2001 Mondeo in 2018, in near-perfect condition, a truly great car...
You probably keep it garaged and/or wax it often. If treated like a normal car, it will rust away like mine did.
@@jamesknightvo It was in the garage but the 10 years in parked on the street.
It doesn't have any rust spots, the engine is original untouched.
Maybe you are living in a humid place.
@@jamesknightvo as the owner of a 2001 Mondeo, I can assure you mine hasn't had any problem in 19 yeara
Which motor ?
@@prasivykojot2338 1.8 petrol 125hp
The Honda Accord: So reliable it was beyond comprehension. If you can get one of these at a reasonable price, snap it up.
Honda Accord best of the lot, under rated cars.
They had a rust problem with the bulkhead which has killed a lot off now.
I had the petrol estate version of that Passat once and I can say categorically that Jason's talking out of his arse here. Even at 196k miles it handled well and the gearbox was absolutely fine.
I still own a 98 estate, love it, 250hp keeps it feeling modern
Australian here. My first car was a passat like this, although it was a v6 automatic. It was and still is a great car. Got it with 120k km on it and its now got 280k and still going strong. I gave it to my dad to drive and I wish I still had it
And now in 2019... Avensis and Accord all the way.
5:34 This 2001 Citroen C5 SX on numberplate *Y82 MMO* was first registered on Wednesday 21st of March 2001 near Reading. At an estimated 125,083 miles, this car has done a lower than average number of miles for it's age. This car had 4 previous owners before the current keeper acquired it.
JELH
Cazana...
It's funny how the Mazda 626, the car that got so much slack for being dull and finished dead last in the comparison, it's the only car that still is running to this day.
It depends on maintenance! May be rhe only one have see oil changes!!!!
Fam in eastern europe people dont let these cars die they are still on the streets alot mostly passat b5.5
You're completely right, it seems so funny and ironic how Mazda gets the last laugh, as all the other cars on the video are now history on the roads!
@@lucylocket4740 That is not true at all. There are still plenty of Mk3.5 Passat about. And the occasional Mk2 Mondeo as well. They were actually quite reliable except for the diesel versions.
You're quite right actually, but very few are as old as the ones on the video!
That old broadcast CRT/VHS aesthetic is very much appreciated.
Wow, these are cars from 2001 and most of them still have radios with cassette decks installed.
Pretty normal up to 2005 to sure cars makers have surplus of that shit! I prefer choose myself the radio because stock ones are rubbish Most of the times
Because in 2001 you could still buy tapes. A lot of people still prefered them for their ability to not skip (modern cd players don't either but late 90's ones did - a lot) and their lower price.
It was pretty normal to have both for quite a long time.
They may have had CD changers in the boot. My 1992 Jaguar is like that. I quite like it because it means you can play both cds and tapes, and because you have tape, you can use the tape aux jack thing.
Most CD head units from that era lacked aux jacks so thats a good way around it.
Cassette was the cheaper option, CD was fancy a bit fancy back then
Almost 20 years later: the passat fährt und fährt und fährt. Especially the infamous 1.9 TDI engine makes the car the best choise. The mondeo is also a pretty nice car. Too bad the owners were mostly scrimpers so it's hard to find one in a mint condition these days.
The C5 was so comfortable, shame the suspension didn't last.
Too much 'listen to my pithy comments' and less objective evaluation. Even back then car evaluations were more about how clever the 'presenter' was and stocking the egos than sticking to objective facts and appraisals.
This is exactly why the show tanked in the ratings and why the replacement Top Gear in 2002 rocketed to success. They scrapped all these clever inside phrases that only the hosts understood and replaced it with funny lines that the audience could actually understand. It has nothing to do with being inoffensive and more to do with phrases that actually make any sense.
Completely agree on the Mondeo. I think that generation still looks beautiful and classy today. And drives great! Disagree with them on the Charisma though: I think it looks quite cool and much better than most cars in this video. That Laguna was and always will be so ugly..
Funny to watch this in 2017, when you know about the 1.9dci and electronical issues of the laguna
Yep fantastic car I had 2 of them, but both run into electrical issues!
The Laguna had very poor residuals and the diesel turbos had a poor reliability record: in contrast to the Peugeot.
Too right,the laguna petrol version was a also a banger.
David Hayes I got my laguna 1.9d estate (dynamic) at 4 and a half years old from a Renault dealer (had been a business lease), 46k miles for £4k cash. Got 7 years out of it and sold it for £1k. Great car for me that was.
Everything imaginable broke on our old Laguna estate.
Highlight was the exploding back window on the Autobahn.
Problems weren't apparent when those cars were new. And not just engine problems, there were inumerous electric problems with those Lagunas, starting by that smart key system. That was hell
6:54 This 2000 Honda Accord SE on numberplate X606 FJM was first registered on Thursday 14th of December 2000 near Reading. At an estimated 127,717 miles, this car has done a lower than average number of miles for it's age. This car had 6 previous owners before the current keeper acquired it.
1:46 X223 AFH is no longer on the road.
✓ SORN
✗ No MOT
Expired:
05 February 2016
I think the ST 220 version of the Mondeo is rather nice.
Going to check out eBay now...
Ahhh...VBH, looking good as always!
The Avensis was exported:
Y449 JCD
✗ Untaxed
Tax due:
01 December 2012
✗ No MOT
Expired:
10 March 2013
Vehicle make: TOYOTA
Date of first registration: March 2001
Year of manufacture: 2001
Cylinder capacity (cc): 1998 cc
CO₂Emissions: 181 g/km
Fuel type: PETROL
Export marker: Yes
Vehicle status: Not taxed
Vehicle colour: SILVER
Vehicle type approval: M1
Wheelplan: 2-AXLE-RIGID BODY
Revenue weight: Not available
Last autumn I was looking for an estate in this class, and it came down to the Laguna MY2005 (restyled version) - spacious, comfortable and well-equipped. I found Avensis and Primera bland, the C5 ugly and the Accord too pricey. The Passat is a good car but it is quite hard to find a well maintained one (at least where I live), and the same goes for the Mondeo. Tip: when bying a Laguna, go for a petrol version.
God how things have changed in the past two decades
Back in the time when car shows were about cars
Passats from that year have rust issues, used to have an 2004 Passat estate highline both front wings where gone with rust
The passats all had zincified body carcass. I am riding a 2003 passat, no rust, no other issues
The MK3 mondeo is one of the best all round cars ever built, it got that rep for a reason, still standing.
The Renault Laguna looked good but my new 2001 DCi was hell on earth that days..
I had a 2004 laguna 1.9d estate (St) for 7 years. I toured Europe in it a few times, and sleept in it a few time. (firsts a double blow up bed in the rear).
Also was a great family car.
It was a close run for me between that an the Mondeo, but thought the laguna looked better.
Was the Superb not out in 2001? Been a great car since launch, today is an amazing car. Though it has an older person's feel to it.
The Superb was launched at the end of 2001, these cars are mostly from end of 2000 to the beginning of 2001!
For being car enthusiasts you would think they know the difference between a hatchback and a saloon
Saloon was a generic terms used to describe that class of car back then. The "family saloon class" so to speak.
This was the golden era of comfort and reliability. As a mechanic of 25 years I've seen countless diesel passats, 406s, avensis and a few primeras and mondeos with way north of 500k miles. The Laguna was nice but had too many flaws inc a few that would take the turbo or gearbox out.
The Mazda is still on the road.
Registration number: MAZ 8866
✓ Taxed
Tax due: 01 November 2017
✓ MOT
Expires: 30 April 2017
Vehicle details
Vehicle make MAZDA Date of first registration May 2000 Year of manufacture 2000 Cylinder capacity (cc) 1840 cc CO₂Emissions Not available Fuel type PETROL Export marker No Vehicle status Tax not due Vehicle colour RED Vehicle type approval Not available Wheelplan 2 AXLE RIGID BODY Revenue weight Not available
The Brits and their love for Fords. Ironic how the Laguna came in second place when a couple of years after its release they all broke down. The only ones out of this group that I still see on the road today are the Accord, Avensis and the occasional Mondeo.
What country? I see the passat ,mondeo , more then the honda and avensis.
Had a 406 was a brill car was faultless from new up too 130,000 miles. 2 mondeos 2.0 TDCi 115 and 130 both brill.
The Passat is gone.
Registration number: Y928 DWL
✗ Untaxed
Tax due: 19 September 2015
✗ No MOT
Expired: 27 April 2016
Vehicle details
Vehicle make VOLKSWAGEN Date of first registration March 2001 Year of manufacture 2001 Cylinder capacity (cc) 1984 cc CO₂Emissions 202 g/km Fuel type PETROL Export marker No Vehicle status Not taxed Vehicle colour GREEN Vehicle type approval M1 Wheelplan 2 AXLE RIGID BODY Revenue weight Not available
Where is the Seat Toledo?
Owned quite a few of them and the 626 was the best of the lot.
2:29 Y449 JCD is no longer on the road.
✗ Untaxed
Tax due:
01 December 2012
✗ No MOT
Expired:
10 March 2013
But it was exported: *Export marker: Yes*
So it's probably being used as a taxi in some African country.
where do you get this information?
@@aleksihaapasaari From here it seems: vehicleenquiry.service.gov.uk/VehicleFound?locale=en
Shame they rejected the nissan just on looks. Sr20 engine and multilink suspension giving it higher lateral gs than the Nissan 300zx. Genuinely one of the best cars I've ever been in.
Honda all the way
My uncle had a 2001 toyota avensis 2.0d4d estate, best relible car ever he owned, that car was used as minicab from 2003 to 2010 then owners privately, it had over 250k miles but drove like a dream with 5 speed manual gearbox, was a really reliable car never gave up, pulled 3 mobile homes with it and never gave up in summer 2013.
those classic songs though
I wonder which tv shows they came from?
Oh right. I meant pet shop boys at the beginning and jarkata
The cheesey sitcom music is from _Terry and June_
16 years ago but I still see plenty of the cars featured on the road - although some of them would have been produced for several more years. I liked the Laguna best as it was sweet to drive.
mondeo and passat are the only ones you see now from that generation so i consider them the winners
and the laguna
The Vectra is gone
Registration number: X433 EUR
✗ Untaxed
Tax due: 04 October 2010
✗ No MOT
Expired: 28 November 2010
Vehicle details
Vehicle make VAUXHALL Date of first registration November 2000 Year of manufacture 2000 Cylinder capacity (cc) 2198 cc CO₂Emissions Not available Fuel type PETROL Export marker No Vehicle status Not taxed Vehicle colour RED Vehicle type approval Not available Wheelplan 2 AXLE RIGID BODY Revenue weight Not available
What's the music that played over the Mazda?
Its being boring by pet shop boys
My 2001 Opel Vectra B 1.6 is still running strong in 2022. 👍🏻
I fancied Vicki.
Where's the 156?
it didn't survive to the run to the test site where the filming took place. something would go wrong every mile!
That's more compact executive than large family car
Bring back the saloon.
Accord & passat proved most reliable, hindsight is wonderful
IT'S GOOD... GOOD!
X808 VOT ✗ Untaxed, due: 01 March 2009
I still drive Vectra to this day. 367t kilometers. and runs great.
On my petrol lupo i have near 400000 km and i have recently rebuild interiors and i go to swap an engine If she needs, because she are in very good shape!no car biult after 2005 can have such a long lifespan! Quality has fallen down and i decide to keep 2000s cars! They are better years
@@gillespriod5509 true.👍
Which ones are the ones most likely to be running at this day you guessed it the japaneese ones
You obviously didn't read the guy above's post, showing that it died in 2015, before hurling your pathetic insult.
had a 306 406 and another skywagen the pugs were very reliable if plastic
626 for life
If only Renault had spent money on quality control rather than gadgets 😞
renault buyers only look at gadgets, they will never open the bonnet
The next generation was an excellent car but the damage had been done
Passat is the only one worth buying anymore and will last for many years to comd
It's pretty boring though, it's just the boring car for everyone
My problem with the passat, is the inside quality at the passing miles, the upholstery of the doors take off all and the buttons wear incredibly fast
@Simon Webb At least if never was parked in the sun... probably, I see over 10 examples and only one was perfect inside... When I see somes audi a3 8l exactly the same problem
Not just the Passat, the Accord, Primera, Avensis, 626 and Carisma are all still worth it. All reliable motors that just keep going. You could get most of these cars for very little, besides the Accord and the Passat as they have retained more value.
¿What is the name of the first song?
The Laguna was exported
Registration number: X808 VOT
✗ Untaxed
Tax due: 01 March 2009
✗ No MOT
Expired: 28 February 2009
Vehicle details
Vehicle make RENAULT Date of first registration January 2001 Year of manufacture 2001 Cylinder capacity (cc) 1783 cc CO₂Emissions Not available Fuel type PETROL *Export marker Yes* Vehicle status Not taxed Vehicle colour GREY Vehicle type approval Not available Wheelplan 2 AXLE RIGID BODY Revenue weight Not available
didnt know cicki was on there i thought only 5th gear
Just bought a p11 144 primera
Good car
The Mitsubishi is still "alive", but has a SORN status
Registration number: X223 AFH
✓ SORN
✗ No MOT
Expired: 05 February 2016
Vehicle details
Vehicle make MITSUBISHI Date of first registration January 2001 Year of manufacture 2001 Cylinder capacity (cc) 1834 cc CO₂Emissions Not available Fuel type PETROL Export marker No Vehicle status SORN in place Vehicle colour RED Vehicle type approval Not available Wheelplan 2 AXLE RIGID BODY Revenue weight Not available
If you get a top end Passat it wipes the floor with every car on this list. The 1.9 TDi engine is like a low flying aeroplane and the handling is brilliant. Mine has done 115,000 miles and it’s still going strong. The interior also just feels superior and more well made than its French or Japanese rivals.
wasn't the laguna one of the least reliable cars of the 00's?
What is the song on the c5 plzzz
No Rover 45?
5:24 What's the music under the C5 part?
Jakatta - American dream
@@woodrow_mayes Thanks!
from a time when we all wanted 90s saloons. nwo everyone want some puggy 30008 clone with no maintinence required
I knew they were going to pick the mondeo
The 626, Accord, and Charisma are my favorites. Automatic transmission is required..
Ford Mondeo numbewá YES !!
great videos. wonder why the Rover 75 wasn't included?
CSimmonds80 it was a rover I suppose
Because it's fugly as hell!
Because its not in the same category of car.
Back then it was actually believe it it or not in the compact exec class above. It was dare i say it actually a pretty good looking quality ish car thanks to the huge bmw investment in it. Interior was retro yet oozed quality compared to most of these passat aside. Btw the 75 is a heap of shit these days hardly see any but back then it was alright.
@@bensmithkent22 the 2.0 cdti connoisseur is 100% quality. No rust, solid construction, BMW 5 series engine... BMW 5 series gear box, drive train. Thick leather seats.... I miss mine a lot
Ha! Still drive an accord. £400 never fails to start NEVER breaks down and rides better than almost any modern car and only the small boot counts against it. I'll keep it till it dies.
I dont agree that drives better then almost new cars. But its good price.
@@vasme973 since then my Accord was sent to the scrap yard in the sky. My new car proves the point, its taller to give more room with stiffer suspension to control the roll. More toys better mpg much quieter but the rides much worse than the Accord.
Ahh 2001... when it was still acceptable to wear runners with jeans...
The accord actually looks soo much better looking than the passat
4:51 (Accrington)
Hehe, that's where I live!
Lucy Locket, so do Iol
Where abouts?
Lucy Locket you think they will tell you that on here ? Accrington has some decent people, but by and large its rough. There is a lot of crime, youth disorder and druggies. Thats just for starters.
That's true that! 🤨
Jason is quite possibly the worst presenter top gear had. the updated theme tune was horrible.
Steve berry was more annoying, that voice of his 😬
Jason was patronising and negative. Yep. The worst presenter they ever had.
Plus that horrible Nordy accent
the C5 will run rings around the Passat or Laguna..
The Mondeo would be my pick at the time
The Mitsubishi Carisma is dull
The Avensis lasts forever
The Passat sounds like a tractor and rusts in seconds
The Nissan is a box on wheels
The Peugeot 406 was the last good Peugeot saloon until the 508
The Accord is alright I guess
The Vectra has no good features
The 626 is a box on wheels like the Nissan
The Renault Laguna is too soft and spongey
The Citroen C5 is more ugly than a hippopotamus
My dad had a Laguna, he said it was alright on the Motoway but on a twisty road the steering wheel did nothing to the wheels.
Why does she sound alike one of the voices from Forza?
I wouldn't touch a Laguna mk2 with a barge pole. Like driving a boat that is constantly trying to sink its self with unreliability.
Fish and chips with onion rings on the side?
renault looks the most futuristic
Because it's the newest car at that time
@@yudhabagaskara98 well yeah and on top of that french cars aesthetically more interesting and is more innovative and creative
So the Mondeo was rated Top Gears car of the year in 2001, yet everyone still mocked the Jaguar X-type for having the same chassis as it.
Adam Woodward yes because nobody wants to pay Jaguar money for a Mondeo in drag.
@@Jabber-ig3iw The whole point of using the Mondeo platform for the X-type was so that the car would cost less to make and develop which would keep the costs down for anyone wanting to buy one, the X-type wasn't priced like a Jaguar at all. Compare the MSRP of a new X-type to other Jaguars from the same era, X100 XK, X350 XJ etc, you'll see a massive price difference. The X-type was the car that actually made Jaguar as a brand profitable again. They're good cars.
Name of the music 3:30
blood is pumpin voodoo & serano
Jason who? I can see why he didn't go far.
You can still see cars like that for sale at any dodgy used car dealer you find. Or your nearest council estate.
Top Gear vote for Ford... what a surprise!
It seemed pretty obvious from the beginning they were going to vote for it, you're right!
I would have gotten a mondeo passat or vectra at the time
It's made in the UK which economically is _good_
From experience the Japanese cars and Korean cars are far superior in reliability and durability over the European cars, at least in Australia.
0:01 Song?
Suburbia by the Pet Shop Boys
@@reallifebegins2212 Thanks
Proof V.B.H. has never used a Vacuum Cleaner Ever ?
In 2020 the passat looks frumpy
had mondeo and the avensis and vectra and all good
obiwan525 1.8 vvti in the avensis
, the mondeo i had 1.8 petrol and 2.5 v6 petrol was reliable the 2.0 tdci I had wasn't tho
obiwan525 yes 168 bhp never had a problem with it just running it was expensive, I've had a 2.0 d4d avensis t27 was a great car but was a nightmare to start sometimes
obiwan525 my avensis was a 1.8 gs just like in this video but mine was a hatchback with the Sr spoiler and grille that I searched the country for
yeah they are all good but the vectra i think was rubbish because of its looks and drive and comfort
What the hell is that music at 4:00
It's Tight Fit's cover of _The Lion Sleeps Tonight_
Peugeot 😍