For sure, it's really weird that the rewards are bad after Chapter 13! I hope they will change this part! I'm currently at 13-12, with characters at level 127.
Same. stuck in 13-12 but I didn't have enough Dust for all 5 so I only have my Sugar at 137 the others at 120. I kinda rushed so I can clear Grave digger consitently with higher drop rate than to get stuck at a way lower level and bite my lips everytime interception S don't drop T7 gear. Also, why did they think that giving lower rewards for clearing higher stages is a good idea.
wow, really nibba? you expect games run by Tencent to be like.. better? name one game for example i dare you. there is non. I've been in this industry for so long so yeah, you can vouch on my opinion. even with the long running success of MHO Tencent managed to screw it and makes Capcom pissed and shut it down for good. and Mobile Legend isn't famous for its' good stuff, is it?
if no improvements are introduced, think players will start dropping noticeably when the other anticipated gacha games comes out (higan, eversoul, star rail etc..)
Yeah, this kinda get me too. Since chapter 13 the reward is kinda next to nothing. This doesnt make sense in any gacha game, the harder the content u should get more reward. This is they saying "to progress more, u have to pay", which is bad PR. No wonder their rating in a free dive, lol.
I think it will be a bit sooner. Once you reach 140 you won't need core data until 160 so at that point you'll start using events to get battle data instead (since you won't be able to level anyway). You can also use your max star characters directly and level them up to increase the power rating (if your characters are relatively good that is)
They need to: 1. Lower how much mileage you need for spare bodies (perhaps to 100) 2. Give more high quality molds as rewards (anything rewards, they just need to give us more of them) 3. High quality molds should be cheaper in the body label shop. If they dont do this they should at least give us tickets or gems more often.
my 2 years old Genshin impact account : 54 characters (all of them are at lvl 90 and all 4* characters are at constellation 6 and some 5* characters has their constellation active), 12 5* weapons vs my hundreds of year old Nikke account : still at level 160...
The truth is when the majority of players get to 160 which you figure the majority of free to play players probably anywhere between 120 and 140 at this point they’re gonna have to up the rates of the summons I mean to get a character to max level you have to summon them 11 times I don’t know about other people but unless you’re exceptionally lucky I’ve got one two star SSR all my others are either one star or below while currently I am lvl 143 I am in chapter 14 due to my drake liter and scarlet team which I was usually either 1000 below recommend lvl or just at the lvl so it’s doable to get through chapter 13 the only issue is you need it a certain team you either got a beat it in team mechanics or you do it in power level But the fact that I summoned seven 10 pulls on Anne banner and I didn’t get one SSR shows a definite issue in this game when you have so many exercise in the pool and you don’t even get one of the many different Ssr’s‘s out of 70 pulls it’s totally demotivational to play the game these gatcha gaming companies need to learn that if you want your game to last you don’t strain as much money as possible as quick as possible from your audience it’s like they don’t even acknowledge the fact of all the different games that was shut down over the last two years
I think once the majority of player base hit the 160 threshold and Chapter 13 the devs will be forced to lower the CP requirement or add a new feature to increase CP without breaking the threshold or ultimately break the threshold itself also devs giving more gems isn't the solution they really should give you alternative ways to buy spare bodies in the shop thats the real solution to break the threshold like giving black tickets as a reward or add it to the event shop so in time everyone could limit break their nikkes to 200
Considering you have to summon a unit 10 times not counting the base unit to get them maxed out is quite a feat but you only need 3 dupes for lvl 200 which is crazy as well with the rates. I do agree though 160 wall gonna be a pain.
thats not being over dramatic. f2p here, have saved 60k+ gems and 55 advanced recruit tix. level 144 synchro level, started played day after launch, once i reach 160 im gonna bust all gems and tix to recruit and if i did not get 5 lb3s, time to drop the game. right not i currently have 1 lb2 and 3 lb1 ssrs
yeah, its not gonna be enough to break the lvl 160 wall even if you spend all of those gems. and take into account that you won't be getting the same amount of gems for completing content as before, so you'll take longer to build up the same amount of gems in the future
I would appreciate if the game became more generous. I’m currently f2p minus buying this Christmas pass thing for the event, but it would suck if my entire account just becomes obsolete because there’s no way for me to keep up with content simply because the game doesn’t let me.
I'm F2P, on the 140 gate. Gonna play the game for fun and will worry about the 160 cap when I get there. They'll probably release new modes and events that give free SSRs in form of molds or mileage. Hopefully they restructure the tribe tower that can reset monthly, first clear give good rewards and repeat clears would give decent rewards. Arena could use some molds as weekly rewards. As of now, I got one MLB SSR and three 2LB SSRs and hoping to get 5 MLB SSRs by the time I hit 160.
I feel at 140/160 I’ll be quitting if I’m there. I’m level 90 and due to bad rng I don’t really have any good units and I’m stuck at a damage wall. I may quit sooner. I put about $10.
I'll probably also quit when I reach 160. I've rolled quite a bit and the best I could do was one dupe. I don't want to get stuck for over a year so I'll just give up.
@@vlionheart the same I feel here. Maybe they’ll give some events that give more gems but it looks like after you reach ch 12 you’re kinda screwed. Oh well I could use that spare time if I drop this gacha
Ok, so I assume that a lot has changed over the last 1 year. I started playing Nikke almost 2 and a half months ago on the 3rd of July 2024 (I didn't even know Nikke existed before then, and this is my very first "gacha" game... a type of game I also didn't know existed 2 and a half months ago either. I mainly only played Playstation previously and Gachas existed completely under my radar apparently). My first account is F2P. When it started slowing down with rewards etc (plus realising I had made a few wasteful mistakes), I decided to create a 2nd F2P account on the 19th of July 2024 and subsequently a 3rd F2P account on the 28th of July 2024. The results? The 3rd of July account 2.5 months ago (a middling "lucky" account in terms of pulls). I reached "mother whale" (chapter 21--31) several weeks ago (almost exactly 2 months after I started the account) but I still have not managed to get past it yet unfortunately due to having good but the "wrong" units. However I did break the 160 wall and am at level 203 in the synchro device and have about 185,000 CP in my main team. Also every 2 weeks I manage to get between 2000-2400 gems in the PVP arena despite "swimming among the whales". For the first time 2 days ago I managed to get and hold 3rd place (Challenger 3) in the Special arena... but I'm not confident I'll be able to hold onto it for the next 9 whole days before this season ends. Should score fairly high in points regardless though. On my second F2P account (19th July 2024 - just under 2 months ago) In terms of progression I reached "Mother Whale" significantly faster... getting to it only a few days after I did with my 1st account (despite starting this account 16 days after) using the experience I had learned from my first account and making less mistakes. However, in terms of "pulls" this is my unluckiest account by far, and so I am still firmly behind the 160 wall. However, the 1 single pilgrim I have on this account (no cores) is fortunately Crown, and with her damage buff I successfully managed to get past mother whale about 3 days ago, and also got past the following chapter after it as well. So I am currently in chapter 23 despite still being locked behind the 160 wall. In PVP I manage to secure 2000 gems every 2 weeks on average despite their being lots of whales on this server with CP several hundred thousand above mine in the top places. It has about 158,000 CP on my main team. On my third F2P account (28th of July 2024 - 1 and a half months ago) this has definitely been my luckiest account of the 3 in terms of pulls. Not insane or anything, but pretty good. Still behind the 160 wall though, but I am just 1 lucky pull away from breaking it (with 4 different Nikke being viable pulls to do so. Which increases my odds greatly that it will happen pretty soon). I reached "Mother Whale" about 1 week ago, but don't quite have the DPS I need to get past it by breaking its core before the 2nd wave is released... so have been stuck there since. In PVP I get between 2000-2400 gems per week on average. It has about 132,000 CP on my main team. So since I did this with 3 seperate F2P accounts over a time period of the last 2.5 - 1.5 months. All with dramatically different ranges of luck with pulls, and with completely different "campaign clearing" Nikkes in my main teams across the 3 accounts. I can only assume that a lot has changed over the last year in Nikke to make it significantly easier for F2P players since this video was made fortunately.
Rerolled 90 times to get Harran (the only pilgrim to show up) and atm I'm red dust stuck on 140 f2p 3000 for a 10 pull is honestly insane (it should be half that) and pack prices are ridiculous (I want to spend but nothing in the shop is worth it's price)
@@Stuy777 rip that's a lot. Only thing I've to show for my 760 summons is 4 maxed ssrs (one being Xmas rupee, also a maxed liter), limit break 1 Laplus and helm. And a lot of other unbroken ssrs. Here's hopping I get a pilgrim b4 1000 summons or my fifth LB nikke
most F2P already quit this game at the 140 wall LMAO Im day 1 F2P player at cp 56951 / sync level 147 / commander level 107 / currently walled at 14-24
The game is designed to be pay to play, they nerf you if your characters don't have enough combat power, they reduce the amount of free gems when you get to chapter 13 or 14 (if I remember correctly) and the only way to break the barrier of the Level 160 is having very good luck or being a whale, most players are not going to be one of those cases. The fact that the story, something that should be 100% accessible to F2P, will eventually ask you for characters above level 160 to progress further shows that they don't care about retaining players in the long term, they want to imitate FGO, big money and not real pity but FGO does not put barriers to play its story mode. Greetings from chile and have a good day (sorry for english use google translate)
I have no problem with core dust for lv 141, and my lb3 helm will get to lv 200 with lb2 ludmilla need to wait her spare in the store to make her lb3. So my case is 2 LB3. And true, most of us will hit a wall even sooner than 160 since not everyone has lb3 nikkes. So.. I think one of the ways they can help everyone is giving a spare body that can be used to everyone from a faction that spare body is. Like missilis spare body thats universal to limit break a nikke you have. Or just give everyone a "weak" lb3 ssr from time to time like from event. That way ppl wont complain not having lb3 characters while not accidentally "give" everyone broken free characters accidentally
@@shehzadrashid1230 the whales help cover average "spend", so be grateful they spend something to this game or else we cant play it. For most of us thats not spending or juat a little, it will impact on the traffic aka how many people plays at certain time. Also for game related stuff, gold mold should be 100%. They should keep it instead of reducing it to 60%. And worst offender is faction scam mold, 50% rate for collecting it in close to two months time? Ugh
Right now i'm stuck at lvl 140, the amount of core dust require to do the upgrade to 141 is ridiculous, after that, reaching lvl 160 will make your f2p account die instantly, you wont have much more to do to rose your power level, and having ssr dupes is not an easy task, they really need to revamp the whole power system at least for the normal campaing otherwise everyone will get frustrated of only using the same 4 nikkes insteas of a combination of the favorite waifus cuz at the end this is what this game is about.
@@brokendreams5298 well, if you farm enough dust on event, I think you should be fine. Hmmm, 7k, then I'll need another 5k when I actually reach one. Thanks for the info
Idk...Ppl keep saying it's an idle game...But for the majority of the gameplay, it's on auto, but u still need to control em. Honestly they should just drop the "idle" theme...
My take on this problem basically as long as I can play the future events and get to read the events fully I will keep playing and enjoy the story there, well it's just my state of mind on any gacha games I played.
that's the neat part, how the fuck you can end the story content when you are being opressed this much. Like take a look for example Neural Cloud, a very fucking F2P friendly game- yet some of the professors are still struggling against MDR last story stage- it's fricking F2P friendly and people are still struggling so how the fuck you expect a not so friendly F2P game letting you clear their content? At this rate, you are probably profiting more to read the Qoran rather than waiting your impending doom in masochistic ways posssible, cuz you know.. Tencent.. name one of their game that decent and not preying on their player, I dare you.
Are you fine with being locked out of the main story though once you've reached the chapter 13 wall?? Feels like that should be a big deal breaker, no?
@@Rhovee I don't really mind for that to be honest, I'm still at story 9 at the moment and haven't continue the story even though I'm pretty sure I can reach that wall by now. I'm just way too lazy to play the main story for some reason lmao
One more problem people seem to miss, a lot of new ssr coming and that is even more chance, not to get dupes. I was lucky at the start and got 3 char up to 3 stars. I have gems and tickets, but that is pale in comparison how lucky I need to be to get 2 more to 3 stars... I'm dying slowly inside.....
even if new nikkes are to be released, if they they will maintain the 4% rate which is already hard for most unluckly players like me, getting an SSR is already hard. what more getting dupes?
After reaching chapter 13. The pace become very slow. Chap13-24 Needs 52k to clear if you have a better team you might clear it a little lower than that. Im lvl 138 right now. I have 2 max broken counter right now. and few that's needed one more dupes to max broken
im at lvl 149 and 14-22 in story mode with 61k power team, f2p. With events i think i can get to lvl 160 in 2 weeks top. but i only have 3 lb2 units, so it will take a huge while until get 5 units lb3
Their will be a huge drop of players after December unless they implement rewards for chapter 13-16 and also increase the rates for ssr, but Tencent lol.
I already can see they will make SR units upgradeable to 3* (lvl 200).. otherwise that wont make any sense cus they will lose 70% of the playerbase. Unless they are stupid enough..
I just grind and grind, until I feel the burnout and quit, I barely roll and rely on what unit I have and right now I currently have two lvl 140 and three lvl 135 for my host units, Helm is the only unit who's limit break on me. My squad power is currently at 46k and I'm only at the early part of chapter 12.
I’m level 148 and I’m on chapter 15 already what I’ve seen is that the higher my bp the bigger the gap of bp I can afford when winning a stage I have 60.8k bp an can easily do content 7~8k above mine I have 4 of my SSR already I know my situation is quite lucky but personally my account ain’t dying anytime soon
Just to add some info, the boss of chapter 18 needs 100k ish power. Thats huge jump from 60k bp most ppl have right now. So i do hope they make the gold mold and faction mold 100% or give free universal spare body at some monthly events. Otherwise, everyone will stuck at chapter 16 or even earlier.
I think the ssr and sr system is bad. In Genshin impact, you can still use 4-stars in team comps and they are good. There are some SR chars that are nice, but the level cap just straight up kills the char for end game.
You can still put SR's in the synchro machine. So if you really like one and you want to get her past the 160 cap, you can just put them in the synchro machine once you have the synchro level above the cap.
@@LambTAFFF Ahaa, I didn't know that was possible. Though that means you still need to get 5 SSR to level 200 to able to do so. If I have understood correctly. Ty for the info!
@@winyonzentrada you're welcome But its kinda pointless, because your 3LB SSR's will obviously have much more power than any SR will ever have. So the only real use for this is when you are doing levels where you have a massive power deficit, since having a little bit less power doesnt matter you can plop a synched SR there if you feel like you need to (tho the only SR i would recommend doing this with would be N102, since she's the only S tier SR)
F2P here, and if you know your numbers well like I do, then you can get to 14-6, also, it's worse than you think because not only will your level be locked, but the tokens you use become capped as well
So what you guys think about spending Gems on ordinary banner instead of limited banner? We all know that limited banner with 2% rate up will easily got a 3* SSR, which is good for process to 200. However, if you don't get 3* SSR in time, probably can't get that limited unit elsewhere or have to wait long to get a rerun. Due to our low Gem income, I would say that it's hard to get a 3* SSR, no need to mention about 5 unit 3*. Unless we have insane luck or have to save for years to get one 😂 Therefore, what if we spend all gems on ordinary banner as it has wish list, which limits to only 15 SSR units, and no limit time. Despite winning or losing 50/50, we still get 1 in the list. On the other hand, if we lose 50/50 on limited banner, it could be other SSR which we might not need.
There are also a chance that we'll looks at 14 lb 1 character then for some unknown reason keep getting 4 same Nikke tough. Not saying it's wont works, but it might be not as reliable as you think and we might still needs a years to get that. And 15 still a rather large pull especially if you didn't have a character that you need yet. You need to choose between a character that you need to reach lb3 or you need to progress afterall
…….this game model is pretty much drawing me back to NieR: reincarnation. At least you can complete the story at its current chapter, the gems are generous, the events are plenty, and it’s free to play.
Later 10¢ will only offer brown leather boots and white t shirt for free after all the hard work accumulated diamonds, shards, bla bla.. money spending or perhaps the cash is king ..
I just recently got five 2 star SSR's. Hope I get the last duplicate for those five on my roll on Modernia. Edit: I spend lightly in this game, by the way.
This is an Idle game covered up as FPS shooter. Literally same problem for any other Idle games (Memento Mori anyone?). For F2P, you either put up with this waiting game or exit. For reward being bad beyond ch 13, idk who thought this was a good idea lol.
TO be honest i'm start to think that those 10 gems are actually a blank spot that dev leave to be filled with an apropriate reward. But for some reason they just leave it as it is and think it's fine for player to get no reward at all
It confounds me about how forgetful the community is about what this game really is , before I understood…now it’s outright annoying. It’s an idle game , they forget , the game is two months old …they forget , we got 60+ free summons and compensation for everything under the sun …they forget Some of us want to enjoy the game and make a decision whether to stick if/when we hit that paywall , most F2P aren’t even close and they are making assumptions
I rerolled 30x and I'm lvl 134. I had knowledge of what to prioritize for resources so I actually can go past 141 in a few days in one big jump but I haven't really summoned and haven't used my molds. Call it hopeful but I'm saving molds for a possibility of them changing the rates I refuse to use any of them. And I'll summon in 2023. Let's hope they give better rewards then and fix issues like this. Also note that union raids, and other pvp stuff is still not here yet so rewards can be a lot better than the rookie pvp stuff.hope it stays in the same bracket server so I can stay rank one to get the best rewards. Normally whales are in top spots so I like how it's not server wide like most gotchas but groups inside each server. I think we should make our true judgment once the other parts of the game is unlocked. Most whales and about all f2p are still early game (based off of gear and resources. In most gotchas purple gear being good is still early in the game till you get gold gear) most aren't at the point to have gold gear and we still don't commonly get the purple or gold resource boxes they are still only event based and rare to come by, we all are still in rookie pvp too, still early game. When we get gold gear and have raids and other pvp opens that will be early endgame. This game takes a lot longer to get to those transition points but we aren't in endgame guys so keep this in mind. But once we are and still nothing changes rain hellfire.
160 gonna be in-between 1 and 2 weeks for F2P player Im at lv 147, day 1 player. At chapter 14-24. My UID 1200 at SEA server :3 Shit account i just got privaty. I got 3 lb3, 1 lb2, 3 lb1 I need a few more to get 5 lb3. As f2p player just pull from normal recruitment. U can get about 400ish pull until now. U can get 2 dupe if u pull from normal recruit. Goodluck
Accounts aren't dead just takes longer to get past the barrier you're not using money you can't expect to not hit walls in gacha without spending that's gacha 1 0 1 but with molds and friend summons daily and weekly gems events eventually you should summon enough dupes to get some 200 characters cause any 5 ssr with dupes can put your account at 200 more gems is always nice though
This is normal in gatcha gaming...people are so antsy to finish the game...if you're stuck, do your dailys, close the app and go play another game or workout or something, if you're not spending money its only fair, the only thing this game has going for it, is the story, the game isn't even out for 5 months yet and people complaining about being stuck lol...if you leave players unchecked they will clear all the content in game in a single day and brag about it. Eventually the devs will start handing out free SSRs, probably even selectors, yall are rushing the game, 3 months in and you want to be at the last stage xD. Just can't please everyone...
Well, the only times i actually see a game handing out their highest rarity for free is 1. Special event (like anniv, at the start of the game, etc) 2. The game just really generous (like Azurlane) 3. The game receive so many backlash and many whales leaving so they retort to doing that to keep the game live a bit longer To be honest number 1 won't solve the problem and i can't see this game to be as generous as Azur Lane. So, i think dev start to randomly give a free SSR is more of bad news rather than a good one.
@@danielak1666 Ive been on both sides, whale and f2p, think about it for second, if they were handing out SSRs willy nilly, why would i need to spend money? after they got thier fill from the whales, then and only then will f2p players get rewarded, this is how it has been since prob. the first gatcha game lol. Im not sure if you ever heard of a game called Exos Heroes, in that game, you need like 24 copies on the same hero to max a system call Signature Force, A.K.A, whale force lol, not to mention, you needed additional copies to transcend them from 90-100, players thought it would take forever but once, again, they had thier fill from the whales, they started creating more ways for players to get these special heroes(Generals), just chill and play if you're a f2p, if you get stuck, leave the game and go play another or work out, trust me.
@@Zen_Insight I'm start thinking that you might be bot since you always make a same comment and having a same response in a lot of video. Your comments didn't even has many things to do with my response anyway. My main point is I don't think this game will start giving an SSR for free. The furthest that might do is maybe make it easier to get millage or something *I don't know much about the game you mentioned. But I remember one game that require you to get 20+ unit just to max level. But that game actually give you reward to do multiple multi on a regular basis. Many games focus on take their fills from whale usually didn't last that long since whale won't be there if not because f2p. Kill f2p too fast and most whale gonna leaves. No f2p means no one to flex around anyway
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For sure, it's really weird that the rewards are bad after Chapter 13! I hope they will change this part! I'm currently at 13-12, with characters at level 127.
Same. stuck in 13-12 but I didn't have enough Dust for all 5 so I only have my Sugar at 137 the others at 120.
I kinda rushed so I can clear Grave digger consitently with higher drop rate than to get stuck at a way lower level and bite my lips everytime interception S don't drop T7 gear.
Also, why did they think that giving lower rewards for clearing higher stages is a good idea.
wow, really nibba? you expect games run by Tencent to be like.. better? name one game for example i dare you. there is non. I've been in this industry for so long so yeah, you can vouch on my opinion. even with the long running success of MHO Tencent managed to screw it and makes Capcom pissed and shut it down for good. and Mobile Legend isn't famous for its' good stuff, is it?
@@linnen_elm and tower fantasy, still lagging and A LOT OF BUUGGGGS. Rushing releasing all new character for MILKING our MONEY.
Still stuck in chapter 13 at the last boss level
LVL 160 will remain a permanent wall untill you somehow manage to full limit break 5 SSRs which is a pretty heavy endeavor for F2P users.
if no improvements are introduced, think players will start dropping noticeably when the other anticipated gacha games comes out (higan, eversoul, star rail etc..)
Alot of F2P players will quit for sure and having bad luck at pulls and not moving for months will suck.
Yeah, this kinda get me too. Since chapter 13 the reward is kinda next to nothing. This doesnt make sense in any gacha game, the harder the content u should get more reward. This is they saying "to progress more, u have to pay", which is bad PR. No wonder their rating in a free dive, lol.
I think it will be a bit sooner. Once you reach 140 you won't need core data until 160 so at that point you'll start using events to get battle data instead (since you won't be able to level anyway). You can also use your max star characters directly and level them up to increase the power rating (if your characters are relatively good that is)
Yes. This isn't even a question. This game won't be around in a year if it keeps being This bad.
They need to:
1. Lower how much mileage you need for spare bodies (perhaps to 100)
2. Give more high quality molds as rewards (anything rewards, they just need to give us more of them)
3. High quality molds should be cheaper in the body label shop.
If they dont do this they should at least give us tickets or gems more often.
It's too late. Everyone burned through everything. If they changed it now it wouldnt help the wave of dead accounts that coming
They wont
my 2 years old Genshin impact account :
54 characters (all of them are at lvl 90 and all 4* characters are at constellation 6 and some 5* characters has their constellation active), 12 5* weapons
vs
my hundreds of year old Nikke account :
still at level 160...
The truth is when the majority of players get to 160 which you figure the majority of free to play players probably anywhere between 120 and 140 at this point they’re gonna have to up the rates of the summons I mean to get a character to max level you have to summon them 11 times I don’t know about other people but unless you’re exceptionally lucky I’ve got one two star SSR all my others are either one star or below while currently I am lvl 143 I am in chapter 14 due to my drake liter and scarlet team which I was usually either 1000 below recommend lvl or just at the lvl so it’s doable to get through chapter 13 the only issue is you need it a certain team you either got a beat it in team mechanics or you do it in power level
But the fact that I summoned seven 10 pulls on Anne banner and I didn’t get one SSR shows a definite issue in this game when you have so many exercise in the pool and you don’t even get one of the many different Ssr’s‘s out of 70 pulls it’s totally demotivational to play the game these gatcha gaming companies need to learn that if you want your game to last you don’t strain as much money as possible as quick as possible from your audience it’s like they don’t even acknowledge the fact of all the different games that was shut down over the last two years
I think once the majority of player base hit the 160 threshold and Chapter 13 the devs will be forced to lower the CP requirement or add a new feature to increase CP without breaking the threshold or ultimately break the threshold itself
also devs giving more gems isn't the solution they really should give you alternative ways to buy spare bodies in the shop thats the real solution to break the threshold like giving black tickets as a reward or add it to the event shop so in time everyone could limit break their nikkes to 200
Considering you have to summon a unit 10 times not counting the base unit to get them maxed out is quite a feat but you only need 3 dupes for lvl 200 which is crazy as well with the rates. I do agree though 160 wall gonna be a pain.
Yes, if you don't have 5 SSR unit with 3 star before 160, then f2p player is dead
thats not being over dramatic. f2p here, have saved 60k+ gems and 55 advanced recruit tix. level 144 synchro level, started played day after launch, once i reach 160 im gonna bust all gems and tix to recruit and if i did not get 5 lb3s, time to drop the game. right not i currently have 1 lb2 and 3 lb1 ssrs
yeah, its not gonna be enough to break the lvl 160 wall even if you spend all of those gems. and take into account that you won't be getting the same amount of gems for completing content as before, so you'll take longer to build up the same amount of gems in the future
I saw a youtuber used 50k gems and didn't get 1 xRupee so yeah goodluck with that.
I would appreciate if the game became more generous. I’m currently f2p minus buying this Christmas pass thing for the event, but it would suck if my entire account just becomes obsolete because there’s no way for me to keep up with content simply because the game doesn’t let me.
I'm F2P, on the 140 gate. Gonna play the game for fun and will worry about the 160 cap when I get there. They'll probably release new modes and events that give free SSRs in form of molds or mileage. Hopefully they restructure the tribe tower that can reset monthly, first clear give good rewards and repeat clears would give decent rewards. Arena could use some molds as weekly rewards. As of now, I got one MLB SSR and three 2LB SSRs and hoping to get 5 MLB SSRs by the time I hit 160.
tencent being generous, hahaha that's not happening
I feel at 140/160 I’ll be quitting if I’m there.
I’m level 90 and due to bad rng I don’t really have any good units and I’m stuck at a damage wall. I may quit sooner. I put about $10.
I'll probably also quit when I reach 160. I've rolled quite a bit and the best I could do was one dupe. I don't want to get stuck for over a year so I'll just give up.
@@vlionheart the same I feel here. Maybe they’ll give some events that give more gems but it looks like after you reach ch 12 you’re kinda screwed. Oh well I could use that spare time if I drop this gacha
Ok, so I assume that a lot has changed over the last 1 year.
I started playing Nikke almost 2 and a half months ago on the 3rd of July 2024 (I didn't even know Nikke existed before then, and this is my very first "gacha" game... a type of game I also didn't know existed 2 and a half months ago either. I mainly only played Playstation previously and Gachas existed completely under my radar apparently).
My first account is F2P. When it started slowing down with rewards etc (plus realising I had made a few wasteful mistakes), I decided to create a 2nd F2P account on the 19th of July 2024 and subsequently a 3rd F2P account on the 28th of July 2024.
The results?
The 3rd of July account 2.5 months ago (a middling "lucky" account in terms of pulls). I reached "mother whale" (chapter 21--31) several weeks ago (almost exactly 2 months after I started the account) but I still have not managed to get past it yet unfortunately due to having good but the "wrong" units. However I did break the 160 wall and am at level 203 in the synchro device and have about 185,000 CP in my main team. Also every 2 weeks I manage to get between 2000-2400 gems in the PVP arena despite "swimming among the whales". For the first time 2 days ago I managed to get and hold 3rd place (Challenger 3) in the Special arena... but I'm not confident I'll be able to hold onto it for the next 9 whole days before this season ends. Should score fairly high in points regardless though.
On my second F2P account (19th July 2024 - just under 2 months ago) In terms of progression I reached "Mother Whale" significantly faster... getting to it only a few days after I did with my 1st account (despite starting this account 16 days after) using the experience I had learned from my first account and making less mistakes. However, in terms of "pulls" this is my unluckiest account by far, and so I am still firmly behind the 160 wall.
However, the 1 single pilgrim I have on this account (no cores) is fortunately Crown, and with her damage buff I successfully managed to get past mother whale about 3 days ago, and also got past the following chapter after it as well. So I am currently in chapter 23 despite still being locked behind the 160 wall. In PVP I manage to secure 2000 gems every 2 weeks on average despite their being lots of whales on this server with CP several hundred thousand above mine in the top places. It has about 158,000 CP on my main team.
On my third F2P account (28th of July 2024 - 1 and a half months ago) this has definitely been my luckiest account of the 3 in terms of pulls. Not insane or anything, but pretty good. Still behind the 160 wall though, but I am just 1 lucky pull away from breaking it (with 4 different Nikke being viable pulls to do so. Which increases my odds greatly that it will happen pretty soon). I reached "Mother Whale" about 1 week ago, but don't quite have the DPS I need to get past it by breaking its core before the 2nd wave is released... so have been stuck there since. In PVP I get between 2000-2400 gems per week on average. It has about 132,000 CP on my main team.
So since I did this with 3 seperate F2P accounts over a time period of the last 2.5 - 1.5 months. All with dramatically different ranges of luck with pulls, and with completely different "campaign clearing" Nikkes in my main teams across the 3 accounts. I can only assume that a lot has changed over the last year in Nikke to make it significantly easier for F2P players since this video was made fortunately.
i start after 9 days of the release and im on lvl 141 f2p
Rerolled 90 times to get Harran (the only pilgrim to show up) and atm I'm red dust stuck on 140 f2p
3000 for a 10 pull is honestly insane (it should be half that) and pack prices are ridiculous (I want to spend but nothing in the shop is worth it's price)
least you got a pilgrim lol i have non and was already very far in before i know what they were or how op they were; I couldn't afford to reroll.
@@AzurFenix I spent 17+ hours rerolling...
@@Stuy777 rip that's a lot. Only thing I've to show for my 760 summons is 4 maxed ssrs (one being Xmas rupee, also a maxed liter), limit break 1 Laplus and helm. And a lot of other unbroken ssrs.
Here's hopping I get a pilgrim b4 1000 summons or my fifth LB nikke
most F2P already quit this game at the 140 wall LMAO
Im day 1 F2P player at cp 56951 / sync level 147 / commander level 107 / currently walled at 14-24
I'm at level 148 and I'm already dying.
I only have Exia on LB2 💀.
12h worth of idling can't even get me 1 Level Up for one Nikke.
I already uninstalled Nikke ....waiting for Eruthyle and Eversoul
The game is designed to be pay to play, they nerf you if your characters don't have enough combat power, they reduce the amount of free gems when you get to chapter 13 or 14 (if I remember correctly) and the only way to break the barrier of the Level 160 is having very good luck or being a whale, most players are not going to be one of those cases.
The fact that the story, something that should be 100% accessible to F2P, will eventually ask you for characters above level 160 to progress further shows that they don't care about retaining players in the long term, they want to imitate FGO, big money and not real pity but FGO does not put barriers to play its story mode.
Greetings from chile and have a good day (sorry for english use google translate)
I have no problem with core dust for lv 141, and my lb3 helm will get to lv 200 with lb2 ludmilla need to wait her spare in the store to make her lb3. So my case is 2 LB3. And true, most of us will hit a wall even sooner than 160 since not everyone has lb3 nikkes. So..
I think one of the ways they can help everyone is giving a spare body that can be used to everyone from a faction that spare body is. Like missilis spare body thats universal to limit break a nikke you have.
Or just give everyone a "weak" lb3 ssr from time to time like from event. That way ppl wont complain not having lb3 characters while not accidentally "give" everyone broken free characters accidentally
These Shitty Dev's Can Never Be Generous To Their Players They Just Want To Milk Out Some Good Amount Of Cash From Us.
@@shehzadrashid1230 the whales help cover average "spend", so be grateful they spend something to this game or else we cant play it.
For most of us thats not spending or juat a little, it will impact on the traffic aka how many people plays at certain time.
Also for game related stuff, gold mold should be 100%. They should keep it instead of reducing it to 60%. And worst offender is faction scam mold, 50% rate for collecting it in close to two months time? Ugh
Maybe the game would never ask for that level, except from pvp we can get everything
Right now i'm stuck at lvl 140, the amount of core dust require to do the upgrade to 141 is ridiculous, after that, reaching lvl 160 will make your f2p account die instantly, you wont have much more to do to rose your power level, and having ssr dupes is not an easy task, they really need to revamp the whole power system at least for the normal campaing otherwise everyone will get frustrated of only using the same 4 nikkes insteas of a combination of the favorite waifus cuz at the end this is what this game is about.
How much core dust do we need to upgrade al level 141? Right now I'm at level 134 and got 14k core dust.
@@shehzadrashid1230 7k for each Nikke
@@brokendreams5298 well, if you farm enough dust on event, I think you should be fine. Hmmm, 7k, then I'll need another 5k when I actually reach one. Thanks for the info
Idk...Ppl keep saying it's an idle game...But for the majority of the gameplay, it's on auto, but u still need to control em. Honestly they should just drop the "idle" theme...
🌸😹It would be but the petulance born of little patience that would lead one to believe their Nikke experience was over post 160!😹🌸
nikke goddess of bugs 2022-2022
My take on this problem basically as long as I can play the future events and get to read the events fully I will keep playing and enjoy the story there, well it's just my state of mind on any gacha games I played.
that's the neat part, how the fuck you can end the story content when you are being opressed this much. Like take a look for example Neural Cloud, a very fucking F2P friendly game- yet some of the professors are still struggling against MDR last story stage- it's fricking F2P friendly and people are still struggling so how the fuck you expect a not so friendly F2P game letting you clear their content? At this rate, you are probably profiting more to read the Qoran rather than waiting your impending doom in masochistic ways posssible, cuz you know.. Tencent.. name one of their game that decent and not preying on their player, I dare you.
Are you fine with being locked out of the main story though once you've reached the chapter 13 wall?? Feels like that should be a big deal breaker, no?
@@Rhovee I don't really mind for that to be honest, I'm still at story 9 at the moment and haven't continue the story even though I'm pretty sure I can reach that wall by now. I'm just way too lazy to play the main story for some reason lmao
One more problem people seem to miss, a lot of new ssr coming and that is even more chance, not to get dupes. I was lucky at the start and got 3 char up to 3 stars. I have gems and tickets, but that is pale in comparison how lucky I need to be to get 2 more to 3 stars... I'm dying slowly inside.....
I am 143lvl and the highest stars i have is ONE lol
There is no way i can upgrade 5 ssr to 3 stars before i reach 160
even if new nikkes are to be released, if they they will maintain the 4% rate which is already hard for most unluckly players like me, getting an SSR is already hard. what more getting dupes?
I hope the revenue is hit hard!
After reaching chapter 13. The pace become very slow. Chap13-24 Needs 52k to clear if you have a better team you might clear it a little lower than that. Im lvl 138 right now. I have 2 max broken counter right now. and few that's needed one more dupes to max broken
I'm chapter 14 f2p, and all my units are 143. I got 2 SSR at 200 level, so don't know if I'll have enough SSR when I reach 160.
Yeah, we play for reach lvl 160. And goodbye game. Reward is so MEH, no reward daily login. Only daily mission
im at lvl 149 and 14-22 in story mode with 61k power team, f2p. With events i think i can get to lvl 160 in 2 weeks top. but i only have 3 lb2 units, so it will take a huge while until get 5 units lb3
Their will be a huge drop of players after December unless they implement rewards for chapter 13-16 and also increase the rates for ssr, but Tencent lol.
I already can see they will make SR units upgradeable to 3* (lvl 200).. otherwise that wont make any sense cus they will lose 70% of the playerbase. Unless they are stupid enough..
I don't think they will since it seems SSR version of the sr characters will be released as limited banners like Anne was.
@@SairinEarthsea if thats the case they have to kiss goodbye to us
Hopium is strong
I just grind and grind, until I feel the burnout and quit, I barely roll and rely on what unit I have and right now I currently have two lvl 140 and three lvl 135 for my host units, Helm is the only unit who's limit break on me. My squad power is currently at 46k and I'm only at the early part of chapter 12.
I’m level 148 and I’m on chapter 15 already what I’ve seen is that the higher my bp the bigger the gap of bp I can afford when winning a stage I have 60.8k bp an can easily do content 7~8k above mine I have 4 of my SSR already I know my situation is quite lucky but personally my account ain’t dying anytime soon
Just to add some info, the boss of chapter 18 needs 100k ish power. Thats huge jump from 60k bp most ppl have right now.
So i do hope they make the gold mold and faction mold 100% or give free universal spare body at some monthly events. Otherwise, everyone will stuck at chapter 16 or even earlier.
So really is there any reason to be in a guild currently?
And my Nikke are at 141. Drained most my ingame currency.
I think the ssr and sr system is bad. In Genshin impact, you can still use 4-stars in team comps and they are good. There are some SR chars that are nice, but the level cap just straight up kills the char for end game.
You can still put SR's in the synchro machine. So if you really like one and you want to get her past the 160 cap, you can just put them in the synchro machine once you have the synchro level above the cap.
@@LambTAFFF Ahaa, I didn't know that was possible. Though that means you still need to get 5 SSR to level 200 to able to do so. If I have understood correctly. Ty for the info!
@@winyonzentrada you're welcome
But its kinda pointless, because your 3LB SSR's will obviously have much more power than any SR will ever have. So the only real use for this is when you are doing levels where you have a massive power deficit, since having a little bit less power doesnt matter you can plop a synched SR there if you feel like you need to (tho the only SR i would recommend doing this with would be N102, since she's the only S tier SR)
F2P here, and if you know your numbers well like I do, then you can get to 14-6, also, it's worse than you think because not only will your level be locked, but the tokens you use become capped as well
So what you guys think about spending Gems on ordinary banner instead of limited banner? We all know that limited banner with 2% rate up will easily got a 3* SSR, which is good for process to 200. However, if you don't get 3* SSR in time, probably can't get that limited unit elsewhere or have to wait long to get a rerun. Due to our low Gem income, I would say that it's hard to get a 3* SSR, no need to mention about 5 unit 3*. Unless we have insane luck or have to save for years to get one 😂
Therefore, what if we spend all gems on ordinary banner as it has wish list, which limits to only 15 SSR units, and no limit time. Despite winning or losing 50/50, we still get 1 in the list. On the other hand, if we lose 50/50 on limited banner, it could be other SSR which we might not need.
There are also a chance that we'll looks at 14 lb 1 character then for some unknown reason keep getting 4 same Nikke tough. Not saying it's wont works, but it might be not as reliable as you think and we might still needs a years to get that. And 15 still a rather large pull especially if you didn't have a character that you need yet. You need to choose between a character that you need to reach lb3 or you need to progress afterall
The cash shop packs with tickets are the best option if you are going to pull in the regular banner
Waht happend too me was i got a b1 noise tahts also realy anyoing y can get too many dupes as a f2p sadly
I'm at lvl 148 and chapter 15-9 with 58873 CP. Doing pretty good for F2P. Core dust wall hit hard. Be sure to farm them.
How are you 58k cp at lvl 148?
My nikke's are lvl 149, but my highest cp team is 56k.
How did you get that high? Is it because of dupes?
@@joseb2780 I got Drake 3 star and Centi and Liter each 1 star with scarlet and yulha no star. I upgraded equipment, bond lvl and skills.
Cap
If only the ssr molds were 100% ssr......if only.
Estoy en nivel 140, solo me falta uno para pasar de eso y subir más, así que me doy mínimo un mes o algo más para llegar a 160
…….this game model is pretty much drawing me back to NieR: reincarnation. At least you can complete the story at its current chapter, the gems are generous, the events are plenty, and it’s free to play.
Later 10¢ will only offer brown leather boots and white t shirt for free after all the hard work accumulated diamonds, shards, bla bla.. money spending or perhaps the cash is king ..
I just recently got five 2 star SSR's. Hope I get the last duplicate for those five on my roll on Modernia.
Edit: I spend lightly in this game, by the way.
yeah, you think half people of the globe has insane luck like you?
Normal people by the way.
Man dis game will be huge succuse if yostar publish it
Good luck getting that 15 dupes
🌸😹I may be of contentious tongue, but certainly the community is of “over exaggeration”, and but overreact.😹🌸
I'm not free to play and I'm almost dead at 144
This is an Idle game covered up as FPS shooter. Literally same problem for any other Idle games (Memento Mori anyone?). For F2P, you either put up with this waiting game or exit. For reward being bad beyond ch 13, idk who thought this was a good idea lol.
TO be honest i'm start to think that those 10 gems are actually a blank spot that dev leave to be filled with an apropriate reward. But for some reason they just leave it as it is and think it's fine for player to get no reward at all
Yes, people tend to forget that this is an idle game..weird.
It's All Tencent's Fault Those Greedy Bastards.
It confounds me about how forgetful the community is about what this game really is , before I understood…now it’s outright annoying. It’s an idle game , they forget , the game is two months old …they forget , we got 60+ free summons and compensation for everything under the sun …they forget
Some of us want to enjoy the game and make a decision whether to stick if/when we hit that paywall , most F2P aren’t even close and they are making assumptions
It's not the F2P player, it is the game. F
I rerolled 30x and I'm lvl 134. I had knowledge of what to prioritize for resources so I actually can go past 141 in a few days in one big jump but I haven't really summoned and haven't used my molds. Call it hopeful but I'm saving molds for a possibility of them changing the rates I refuse to use any of them. And I'll summon in 2023. Let's hope they give better rewards then and fix issues like this. Also note that union raids, and other pvp stuff is still not here yet so rewards can be a lot better than the rookie pvp stuff.hope it stays in the same bracket server so I can stay rank one to get the best rewards. Normally whales are in top spots so I like how it's not server wide like most gotchas but groups inside each server. I think we should make our true judgment once the other parts of the game is unlocked. Most whales and about all f2p are still early game (based off of gear and resources. In most gotchas purple gear being good is still early in the game till you get gold gear) most aren't at the point to have gold gear and we still don't commonly get the purple or gold resource boxes they are still only event based and rare to come by, we all are still in rookie pvp too, still early game. When we get gold gear and have raids and other pvp opens that will be early endgame. This game takes a lot longer to get to those transition points but we aren't in endgame guys so keep this in mind. But once we are and still nothing changes rain hellfire.
this game is a bait if you dont pay you cant play after lvl 160 simple.
My f2p account already dead chapter 13 lmao
short answer. yes
160 gonna be in-between 1 and 2 weeks for F2P player
Im at lv 147, day 1 player.
At chapter 14-24.
My UID 1200 at SEA server :3
Shit account i just got privaty.
I got 3 lb3, 1 lb2, 3 lb1
I need a few more to get 5 lb3.
As f2p player just pull from normal recruitment.
U can get about 400ish pull until now.
U can get 2 dupe if u pull from normal recruit.
Goodluck
Accounts aren't dead just takes longer to get past the barrier you're not using money you can't expect to not hit walls in gacha without spending that's gacha 1 0 1 but with molds and friend summons daily and weekly gems events eventually you should summon enough dupes to get some 200 characters cause any 5 ssr with dupes can put your account at 200 more gems is always nice though
No, they dont die, just gona be stuck at 160 for a month
More like for a year dude lol. Those accounts will be dead. And the game will follow them soon after.
This is normal in gatcha gaming...people are so antsy to finish the game...if you're stuck, do your dailys, close the app and go play another game or workout or something, if you're not spending money its only fair, the only thing this game has going for it, is the story, the game isn't even out for 5 months yet and people complaining about being stuck lol...if you leave players unchecked they will clear all the content in game in a single day and brag about it. Eventually the devs will start handing out free SSRs, probably even selectors, yall are rushing the game, 3 months in and you want to be at the last stage xD. Just can't please everyone...
Well, the only times i actually see a game handing out their highest rarity for free is
1. Special event (like anniv, at the start of the game, etc)
2. The game just really generous (like Azurlane)
3. The game receive so many backlash and many whales leaving so they retort to doing that to keep the game live a bit longer
To be honest number 1 won't solve the problem and i can't see this game to be as generous as Azur Lane. So, i think dev start to randomly give a free SSR is more of bad news rather than a good one.
@@danielak1666 Ive been on both sides, whale and f2p, think about it for second, if they were handing out SSRs willy nilly, why would i need to spend money? after they got thier fill from the whales, then and only then will f2p players get rewarded, this is how it has been since prob. the first gatcha game lol. Im not sure if you ever heard of a game called Exos Heroes, in that game, you need like 24 copies on the same hero to max a system call Signature Force, A.K.A, whale force lol, not to mention, you needed additional copies to transcend them from 90-100, players thought it would take forever but once, again, they had thier fill from the whales, they started creating more ways for players to get these special heroes(Generals), just chill and play if you're a f2p, if you get stuck, leave the game and go play another or work out, trust me.
@@Zen_Insight I'm start thinking that you might be bot since you always make a same comment and having a same response in a lot of video. Your comments didn't even has many things to do with my response anyway.
My main point is I don't think this game will start giving an SSR for free. The furthest that might do is maybe make it easier to get millage or something
*I don't know much about the game you mentioned. But I remember one game that require you to get 20+ unit just to max level. But that game actually give you reward to do multiple multi on a regular basis. Many games focus on take their fills from whale usually didn't last that long since whale won't be there if not because f2p. Kill f2p too fast and most whale gonna leaves. No f2p means no one to flex around anyway
@@danielak1666 yup once the f2p player base leaves the whales stop playing. Also I agree on thinking they're a bot.
You're hoping tencent to handout free ssr?
No.
Yes.