Okay, okay, I hear you all. Apologies to those who did not appreciate Capt. Grants choices. Let’s keep a couple things in mind. The other races the Terrans have come into contact with have ended up being peaceful. They likely have put some guidelines in place regarding first contact. Potentially these guidelines are restrictive in allowing aggressive acts. Next Grant is the captain of an exploratory vessel and as such she may not have adequate firepower to take The Virexians head-on. Yes she ran, she told the appropriate people so a response could be mounted. This is the start of The Virexian Conflict with the end being the story “Don’t Mess With The Humans” or whatever they called it. I will make sure to take your criticism and apply it to future stories! Thank you!
I think I did a good job at not being rude. and make this constructive criticism, not making fun of you. I don't expect you or anyone to perfect. If you feel this does come off as rude, please tell me why you think it's rude so I can also improve. Even with this mistake, it's still miles ahead of, like 99% of HFY stories on RUclips. Either The Horizon is a military ship or a well-armed non-military ship, then the second the first missile hit, they should have returned fire. or it wasn't a military ship or only a scout ship and can't fight the Virexians head-on, then when an unknown ship that's not responding to hail thus can't determine if the ship is a threat, they should have called the shuttle back then and there, and when the missile hit, flee immediately. You have no reason to stay, fight, or flight; don't freeze (I know some do freeze, but that's what training is for to help you not freeze when you're actually in the thick of it).
This is not the kind of person you put in command of a ship floating in space. I wouldn't put her in a rig with a crew exploring the ocean floor. That crew's first mate should have had her locked up for failing to command, and taken over the situation. Regardless of any possible mutiny charges. She was not able to make fast hard decisions under pressure. you do not hand this kind of position over to someone to find out if they can do the job. you hand it to those who have proven themselves capable. I doubt anyone, who has proven capable, would have failed as bad as she has in this story. Getting your ass out of a situation you could have avoided along with the ppl you put in harm's way is great, but it's nothing to be celebrated or rewarded. Grant should have had her command taken from her, and she should not have been praised by those higher ranking officers. they should have tore her a new one. I don't care if this was not a military vessel she was commanding. She failed to act like she knew it wasn't a military vessel and kept pushing her crew and ship into a situation she should have avoided after they made 2 or 3 failed attemps. She forgot she had crew outside till the bug ppl were in a shuttle coming for them. No excuse for anyone in that position to be that forgetful and still hold that position.
@@Radio-hfy okay. I can forgive the potholes then if it was a Chapter 1. First chapters are usually super rough around the edges and hard to get right. I can forgive that roughness and beginning jitters.
My only critic is, that if people don’t like your character’s actions…GOOD! As long as it’s not your MC, and you’re not trying to make them out to be the best commander in the universe, you can use them as a teaching tool! The lesson here is why the worst parson to have in command is someone who’s indecisive! She should have gotten her people back to the ship the second another vessel appeared. Then she should’ve fought, or ran! She risk lives with the stupid move, but that the beautiful thing about stories, characters mess up so we don’t have to!😎
I see no problem with her actions. They were reasonable. I think people are just upset that she, a non-military person in charge of a non-military ship & crew, is holding back and does not have a boisterous personality like many HFY stories have.
This Grant said that. The ACTUAL Grant from the 19th Century would have just shot back after the first attack and sent back to Earth to tell them to prepare for war. If there's a second part, this Grant better NOT be in command of ANYTHING more than an Earthside supply depot.
@@TheJadeFist Debatable. The video makes it sound like the ships are on par with each other, or the human ship is stronger. But the moment one side opens fire, a peaceful resolution is off the table. Hell, it even sounds like the key to a peaceful resolution WAS firing back.
@@stevenbyford5615 yes, the proper greeting would have been to power up all shields and weapons. Showing their strength. Allowing both sides so see what they were up against. The Terrans being the deceptive species we are do not understand this and choose to hide our strength (although we didn’t see it that way). This is made more clear when Grant suddenly brings shields online. This would have been terrifying for the Virexians as the ordinance sent was proportional to the defenses they witnessed. A “test” which Grant also failed.
This should have been titled "diplomacy at any cost" Humans sound like a species that believes that everyone is good and all conflicts are misunderstanding.
The other two species they have met have been friendly. What would make them think the third would be hostile? And yes, humanity is definitely setting themselves up as “diplomacy at any cost” there is a reason for that. The f-around and find out graph is more of a J curve.
@@aakla this conflict is a misunderstanding because this alien species fear's humans because of they're inner skeleton is unnatural to them since they have an exoskeleton they see humanity as untrustworthy and a threat to they're species.
Grant is weak. The people were captured because of her inaction and wanted to keep trying to talk while getting attacked. "We don't want a fight", you were already in a fight. They escalated multiple times, yet you were afraid to escalate?
I disagree, making split second decisions during combat doesn’t give the luxury of hindsight until the dust settles. Especially if you are trying to prevent an intentional incident.
@@semperhighley4500 the first attack that excuse might work, but in this instance you are wrong with this situation in the story. She had plenty of time to decide after the first attack. She continued to put her crew at risk because she didn't want to escalate after the enemy attacked multiple times and "forgot" about her shuttle. She was going under the mantra "give peace a chance" when the enemy was clearly sending the message "we want you dead"
This story makes no sense, can you imagine an enemy shooting at you and you don't respond with fight or flight? If a navy ship attacks another ship here on earth you don't open the radio channel and try to talk to the enemy to death but you return fire in order to protect not only yourself but your crew and indirectly protect the nation which has millions.
That is on earth we know what we are getting ourselves into but space is a different matter they have to be careful not to cause war for all they no it's just a misunderstanding and it wasn't until they got the information about the aliens being afraid of us is when everything changes.
If they stopped firing after you backed off, it's not quite to the point of demanding a real fight. You were in their territory, they were defending their space, and you showed up, they fired some shots you backed off, and they stopped firing. It's a bit different on earth where, its' not as if you've never even heard of China, and you've just discovered them, and no one can talk to each other. They don't know who or what you are, and they did stop firing when you backed off, it's clear at that point they weren't trying to start a war, but also weren't going to allow the human ship to casually violate their territory doing god knows what. There's a big detail here in this situation, the aliens didn't enter our space, we entered theirs. Yes the captain is an idiot though.
Grant failed her crew. I can forgive not wanting to start a fight you can't win, but I completely disapprove of her completely forgetting that she had a shuttle out after getting attacked. If she couldn't win, she should have collected her crew and immediately retreated.
@@gdalsup she wouldn't be able to make fast decisions while being attacked because it's not a military vessel it's purpose is meant to explore even though it has some weapons for self defense.
I have to side with the majority of the comments that this story is probably sub-par from the rest of the stories on the channel. I did notice that there is a plot-hole at 15:35 where Grant uses the Virexian name when prior they did not know who or what they were looking at. It's kind of downer, but for every 9 good stories, you get at least one sub-par. It's not a "bad" story, just not on that is up there in favor of the others.
@@outrider425 One she wasn't in a war because she isn't fighting back. Two that was more of being bullied by aliens. Three war doesn't leave survivors.
You can tell this story was written by someone who has never been in a tense situation. Grant would never be a captain in real life in any countries military, she's too damn dumb and a coward. Also Grant is on a massive ego trip, actual leaders who have the respect of their crew doesn't have to keep telling them to not fire unless she orders it.
I'm gonna say this right now. Captain Grant needs to be stripped of command for gross incompetence. This wasn't just a bad call, this was an absolute failure to grasp a situation and unnecessary risk management. The instant the other ship started firing, she should have started moving away while firing everything they had at it, getting to a position where they could exit. The ONLY things she did that were not incompetent were to raise shields and have them on standby.
Wrong she did what is necessary not to cause a war because it could of been a misunderstanding even though they were making a show of strength if she could be stripped than her superiors should of done so in the briefing but they didn't she was just following protocol.
@@robertbrackin6836 Okay, she should have had the "shuttle" pulled back in the instant an alien vessel showed up on sensors (granted I think that was just a writer flub up because there was no mention of it before). But the way she handled the situation shows a SHOCKING disregard for the lives of her crew. Regardless of whether it was a fight she could have won or not, she should have withdrawn AFTER reclaiming the shuttle and it's crew, BEFORE the alien ship got any closer. As for protocol. What kind of protocol makes you expendable?
Horizon is an exploration vessel heavily shielded but limited weapons. Their directive would be non-aggression but they have the ability to defend themselves. As for the shuttle, comms were down likely jammed by the virexians.
@@nooneofimportance2110 do you want to risk the whole ship while being shot at by the aliens this protocol was necessary sometimes you have to make decisions no matter how bad it is besides she has already sent a rescue team to bring them back.
@@nooneofimportance2110 I never said they were expendable sometimes they have to make a hard choice do you want to risk saving while being shot by aliens that risk would of endangered the whole ship she did what was necessary and she already sent a rescue team to bring them back.
Had a shuttle out when the aliens showed up and did not immediately recall "at speed"? Captain abandoned a shuttle when fired on? Allowed her ship to be fired on REPEATEDLY, with a damaged shuttle out there filled with crew, and no mention BY ANYONE on the Bridge about the shuttle AT ALL until the aliens sent out THEIR shuttle? NEVER would I serve with that bunch of chicken-shite. No-one that has ever been "crew" would.
Now I imagine a diplomat in 40k armour in order to overcome the cultural prejudice. And he feels very awkward for wearing this over the top armour that is barely functional. (like a cosplay)
A mildly intriguing story and well narrated... that being said, Captain Grant was not really "Command Officer" material... Although it was quickly established that this was a mere survey ship and not necessarily rigged for battle, that should mean a highly cautionary approach... "standard hails" is a foolish phrasing as it expects a common mean of communication... there really wasn't one... there should have been multiple attempts of various types, not the same thing over and over. If there was any defensive armaments on their ship, they should have swatted at the missiles to show proper defense while avoiding retaliatory fire... The sudden appearance of a crewed shuttle being on the outside of a moving ship in exploration was ludicrous. extravehicular activities are performed in a "safe" and non moving situation, they should have been brought inside the minute they first discovered the alien ship... from there on out the story inevitably devolved... not only in mostly absurd options (despite being outmatched) but in strange protocols being used... How did they manage to get their rescue shuttle to the alien ship without being discovered and blown away, much less returning intact? I understand the overall drift and tenor of this story and some parts were handled in a somewhat reasonable fashion... but there were far too many assumptions and gaps to be a truly good story... the author needs quite a bit more work on this to make it viable. Thanks again for the great narration!
This is an example of a bad Leader. Female or Male. These actions are disappointing, and undeserving of leadership. The person writing this story needs to do some research regarding the subject. Or, work on gaining some first hand knowledge. Either way; the Narrator did a fantastic job! Thanks for the efforts!
@ I would assume the title to reflect it. The title suggests an emphasis on the discovery of human anatomy. That’s why I assume leadership wasn’t the story focus.
This captain needs to be court-martialed and removed from command. Her namesake would have simply annihilated the Virexians and then reported back to Earth to prepare for war.
I normally love your stories but could not get behind this one. This story just did not make any sense. Not defending after the first attack, Ok, I get it no real damage done. Not defending the shuttle with crew still inside is where I no longer believed the story and lost all respect for Grant. I understand this was a first contact situation and Grant did not want to start a war. After being told flat out by the alien leader we are at war and risking her ship and crew by not fighting back and almost losing both. Every crew member that almost lost their lives to her incompetent command decisions would never respect or trust her again. The only way I would have possibly believed this story if the author made it very clear that the human ship was very out classed. But the story made it seem like the ships were evenly matched or the human ship was superior.
The Horizon is an exploration vessel and not equipped to go punch for punch with the Virexian ship. They do have heavy shields. They could not fire upon the enemy shuttle as it was headed for theirs. The debris field may have been more than what their engineers shuttle could have handled. At the end of the day Grant kept her cool and saved her crew. The Virexians get theirs eventually.
@@Radio-hfy1. They didn't know what species the ship belonged to even if they did, they didn't fire back to even find that out, even tho they were being attacked. 2. Of course she kept her cool when she did nothing and being a deer in the headlights. 3. On no they are targeting our shuttle! Let's block them with no shots fired in order to protect the shuttle. Oh no they declare war and fire at us, let's not fire any shots back. Like seriously shoot the ship before it tries doing anything expeciely after it had already fired multiple times, it is clearly hostile.
@@robertbrackin6836 its hard to save anyone when the enemy was trying to slag your ship in the first shot, one of the painfully few good choices she made (keeping the shields on standby and raising them) is the only reason the humans didn't all die and end up with the shuttle captured.
@@robertbrackin6836 you wouldn't be risking hitting the shuttle if you shot the clearly hostile ship before it could get anywhere near the shuttle... In a real world scenario they would all be dead and not of made it back to earth due to the inactivity of the commander. The only reason in the story that they managed to escape was because the alien commanders were dumb, inactive, and not even trying and didn't bother pursuing their ship. This entire story is not thought out enough, and has so many problems that make the story bad.
I think it's a great story and everything grant did is justifiable, although being straight up attacked and not doing anything is crazy, I think the only thing she should have done realistically is not wait as long to pull back and fire warning shots. Other than that great story 👍
Grant is a pure bred pacifist, her crew wouldn’t have been captured if she had sent out a message for them to come back straight away upon discovery of unknown vessel, she then should have initiated a show of force after multiple failed hails, sometimes you gotta talk with your fists, that alien race wouldn’t have known what we were if it wasn’t for her inability to read the room..
@@landofthelongwhitecloud2752 attacking first would make them the aggressors that is a standard protocol in the military you should never do that can get you court marshalled for that and she did try to call them back but they didn't answer.
Is it me are are there too many female captains in space? Why were there repair crews out in the middle of a standoff? Why weren't the shipping weapons powered up after the first volley? This isn't something tea party, going out into the wild to a potentially hostile area without your weapons at the read is folly. How did the rescue shuttle not be detected when approaching the alian ship? This story... has a lot of holes in it. How did the human ship escape without firing weapons??? And why is an exploration ship not armed to the teeth? I demand a rewrite! The story has potential but there are to many glaring mistakes. And the captain... how did she get her position? Is she diversity hire? Because actions like that would have most people killed.
13:14 "They're aggressive" But they stopped firing when the human moved off. It sounds like they're defending a line. The human ship is in their territory after all.
When I heard the Captain Grant was woman, I knew this was going sideways. Women respond to stress with emotions, men respond to stress with logic. If you're a cadet or an officer which gender of your commander would you choose.
Everyone in these comments are completely misunderstanding Grant's reasons for why she chose her actions. She's not even military. I'm not even gonna try to elaborate. I'm too tired for this. Y'all figure it out yourselves.
@@slizzardshroomer9666 Her actions make sense to me for her character and their mission of exploring new stuff. They were ambitious, hopeful, & naive, or at least _she_ was.
Not going to lie, this was the worst story ever. I left a like because Larissa was just as good as ever, but your writer needs to look up "rules of engagement". If anyone fires on you, you take them the fuck out! You do NOT leave your ship and crew vulnerable! Somali pirates learned this the hard way.
Sorry you felt that way. The Horizon is an Exploration vessel. Would it have been wise to stay against another larger ship with heavier armament? I thought it admirable that she was able to rescue her crew and escape to warn Terran command.
@@Radio-hfy When the other ship refused to answer, she should have pulled her shuttle on board. And even the Horizon was armed. And the story did NOT say the Virexian ship was larger. It just pointed out that their weapons were visible. That's why I said you need to get a copy of "Rules of Engagement". If she had followed protocol, her people would have been brought back on board the minute the other ship was detected. You NEVER EVER leave your people hanging like that. Once the other ship launched missiles, it's game on man. The other team initiated hostilities. When their shuttle headed for yours, shoot! Don't just sit there. And another thing. If they have already fired on you, taken your shuttle hostage, and straight up told you that you are so different that there will be no peace, if you get a team on board, either take them out, or take THEM hostage.
15:35 "They need to get inside before the Virexians reach them" Wait... at what point did they learn these people called the Virexians? She just threw this name out randomly.
I don't like this story don't bother with part 2 if I hear about this Grant again I'm leaving the video and not watching it keep the Frairen stories coming this one is shit
Thanks! I absolutely love your narrators and the stories they read! I just wish you would credit the voice actors/writers in the description(if they're comfortable with that). These videos are amazing!
While I do appreciate the narration and enjoy the accompanying pictures (like that grim dark style), this story is just bad and I can do without revisiting "Captain" Grant, even if this story is set within the regular universe we've spent time in. The way this officer has been behaving is just abysmal and goes against anything we've come to expect from any commanding officers.
@@Radio-hfy I see your post and hope you don't take my criticism to heart too much. I'm very much looking forward to how the conflict will play out in future episodes and encounters. I just felt I had to express my frustration with Cpt. Grant's command choices. So, please, don't let it discourage you. Onward! 🖖
@@GermanNightmare1976 it most likely she will your comment is tame compared to everyone else I wouldn't be surprised if she cancels it but I hope she doesn't.
While grant was objectively awful whats with the sexism in the comment section‽ Like being a good leader isn't gendered. Ive know men who would have done the same. I will say that grant should be releaved of command.
Not firing on the shuttle that captures there own makes zero sense. If a species manages space they gave either the logical abilites to recognice that shooting at something meand shors come back and that launching anything in that general direction is an target. . First contact can easily mean for a species so inclibed to bash shields in greeting so shooting back may be the smart move any ways. Then, there is always the chance that the species is a bunch of idiots who only go for the throat so getting the eff out of dodge asap and call in the bigwiggs to handle it is the right move. The humans risked not alerting humanity about a bunch of murderbugs in there tunnlevision to get an peacefull first contact. If someone throws explosives your way and you prefer not to escalate you run and alert your people about the ceazies over there.
If you blow something up in space pieces go everywhere this can be deadly for smaller craft. Of coms are down there could potentially be engineers outside. Too dangerous to engage.
as a story it sucked! You don't just sit and allow an enemy to shoot at you without any response. obviousely the author dosen't have a clue how to handle a situation like this.
This was so bad definitely written by someone that never has been in danger or has taken any responsibility for their decisions.honestly even the AI stories are not this bad
No, it wasn’t a nice one. It made absolutely no sense and there is no way Grant would have made it to starship captain if that is how she performed in field. Plus, how the hell did the species know what to call one another when it was first contact and no idea what one another looked like? If we were told about one another from mutual met contacts, physical and cultural would be given along with species name.
Grant is a poor captain. And I'm not enjoying this story. Like yay lets just let our selves be bullied and our fellow humans captured because you're pathetic. Quite sad.
well thats was underwhelming, no conclusion at all, bad story at most. also what a shitty captain, afraid to escalate a situation thats already at max escalation, they were attacked and had crew captured, blast those bugs from the void. she should be punished for incompetence and endangerment of the crew and striped on her rank.
@@bananamuffiin9869 she can't just do that when she was trespassing in the aliens sector of space it was they're territory if she fired on them anyways it would only make them the aggressors.
Ugh...this story was lame af... Even a vessel that's for exploration and science still should have a Captian that is willing to fight ffs!!!! Look at Star Trek....they were a science ship and they had a Bridge Crew willing to fight to DEFEND!!! Every HUMAN SHIP SHOULD HAVE A TACTICAL CREW TO PROTE T THE SCIENCE CREW 🙄🙄🙄🙄 NO fkn way a human would go unprepared 💩💩
Okay, okay, I hear you all. Apologies to those who did not appreciate Capt. Grants choices. Let’s keep a couple things in mind. The other races the Terrans have come into contact with have ended up being peaceful. They likely have put some guidelines in place regarding first contact. Potentially these guidelines are restrictive in allowing aggressive acts. Next Grant is the captain of an exploratory vessel and as such she may not have adequate firepower to take The Virexians head-on. Yes she ran, she told the appropriate people so a response could be mounted. This is the start of The Virexian Conflict with the end being the story “Don’t Mess With The Humans” or whatever they called it. I will make sure to take your criticism and apply it to future stories!
Thank you!
I think I did a good job at not being rude. and make this constructive criticism, not making fun of you. I don't expect you or anyone to perfect. If you feel this does come off as rude, please tell me why you think it's rude so I can also improve. Even with this mistake, it's still miles ahead of, like 99% of HFY stories on RUclips.
Either The Horizon is a military ship or a well-armed non-military ship, then the second the first missile hit, they should have returned fire.
or it wasn't a military ship or only a scout ship and can't fight the Virexians head-on, then when an unknown ship that's not responding to hail thus can't determine if the ship is a threat, they should have called the shuttle back then and there, and when the missile hit, flee immediately. You have no reason to stay, fight, or flight; don't freeze (I know some do freeze, but that's what training is for to help you not freeze when you're actually in the thick of it).
This is not the kind of person you put in command of a ship floating in space. I wouldn't put her in a rig with a crew exploring the ocean floor. That crew's first mate should have had her locked up for failing to command, and taken over the situation. Regardless of any possible mutiny charges. She was not able to make fast hard decisions under pressure. you do not hand this kind of position over to someone to find out if they can do the job. you hand it to those who have proven themselves capable. I doubt anyone, who has proven capable, would have failed as bad as she has in this story. Getting your ass out of a situation you could have avoided along with the ppl you put in harm's way is great, but it's nothing to be celebrated or rewarded. Grant should have had her command taken from her, and she should not have been praised by those higher ranking officers. they should have tore her a new one. I don't care if this was not a military vessel she was commanding. She failed to act like she knew it wasn't a military vessel and kept pushing her crew and ship into a situation she should have avoided after they made 2 or 3 failed attemps. She forgot she had crew outside till the bug ppl were in a shuttle coming for them. No excuse for anyone in that position to be that forgetful and still hold that position.
@@Radio-hfy okay. I can forgive the potholes then if it was a Chapter 1. First chapters are usually super rough around the edges and hard to get right.
I can forgive that roughness and beginning jitters.
My only critic is, that if people don’t like your character’s actions…GOOD! As long as it’s not your MC, and you’re not trying to make them out to be the best commander in the universe, you can use them as a teaching tool! The lesson here is why the worst parson to have in command is someone who’s indecisive! She should have gotten her people back to the ship the second another vessel appeared. Then she should’ve fought, or ran! She risk lives with the stupid move, but that the beautiful thing about stories, characters mess up so we don’t have to!😎
I see no problem with her actions. They were reasonable. I think people are just upset that she, a non-military person in charge of a non-military ship & crew, is holding back and does not have a boisterous personality like many HFY stories have.
An unknown vessel opens fire after multiple failed attempts to hail them.
Grant: Can't we all just get along?
This Grant said that. The ACTUAL Grant from the 19th Century would have just shot back after the first attack and sent back to Earth to tell them to prepare for war.
If there's a second part, this Grant better NOT be in command of ANYTHING more than an Earthside supply depot.
The smart thing would have been to simply back off. No need to rush a first contact.
@@TheJadeFist Debatable. The video makes it sound like the ships are on par with each other, or the human ship is stronger. But the moment one side opens fire, a peaceful resolution is off the table. Hell, it even sounds like the key to a peaceful resolution WAS firing back.
@@stevenbyford5615 yes, the proper greeting would have been to power up all shields and weapons. Showing their strength. Allowing both sides so see what they were up against. The Terrans being the deceptive species we are do not understand this and choose to hide our strength (although we didn’t see it that way). This is made more clear when Grant suddenly brings shields online. This would have been terrifying for the Virexians as the ordinance sent was proportional to the defenses they witnessed. A “test” which Grant also failed.
This should have been titled "diplomacy at any cost" Humans sound like a species that believes that everyone is good and all conflicts are misunderstanding.
Exactly. Like am advanced species is not likely the apex predator on their planet too. 😂
The other two species they have met have been friendly. What would make them think the third would be hostile? And yes, humanity is definitely setting themselves up as “diplomacy at any cost” there is a reason for that. The f-around and find out graph is more of a J curve.
@@aakla this conflict is a misunderstanding because this alien species fear's humans because of they're inner skeleton is unnatural to them since they have an exoskeleton they see humanity as untrustworthy and a threat to they're species.
Grant is weak. The people were captured because of her inaction and wanted to keep trying to talk while getting attacked. "We don't want a fight", you were already in a fight. They escalated multiple times, yet you were afraid to escalate?
You can say that again she's insufferable
yeah like wtf
I disagree, making split second decisions during combat doesn’t give the luxury of hindsight until the dust settles. Especially if you are trying to prevent an intentional incident.
@@semperhighley4500 the first attack that excuse might work, but in this instance you are wrong with this situation in the story. She had plenty of time to decide after the first attack. She continued to put her crew at risk because she didn't want to escalate after the enemy attacked multiple times and "forgot" about her shuttle. She was going under the mantra "give peace a chance" when the enemy was clearly sending the message "we want you dead"
@@einyvTypical female logic was shown by Grant...
How did we know the names of each others’ species if this was first contact with one another and had no idea what one another even looked like?
This story makes no sense, can you imagine an enemy shooting at you and you don't respond with fight or flight? If a navy ship attacks another ship here on earth you don't open the radio channel and try to talk to the enemy to death but you return fire in order to protect not only yourself but your crew and indirectly protect the nation which has millions.
Female captain.
That is on earth we know what we are getting ourselves into but space is a different matter they have to be careful not to cause war for all they no it's just a misunderstanding and it wasn't until they got the information about the aliens being afraid of us is when everything changes.
@@KurNorockwhat does being a female captain have anything to do with it?🤦
If they stopped firing after you backed off, it's not quite to the point of demanding a real fight. You were in their territory, they were defending their space, and you showed up, they fired some shots you backed off, and they stopped firing. It's a bit different on earth where, its' not as if you've never even heard of China, and you've just discovered them, and no one can talk to each other. They don't know who or what you are, and they did stop firing when you backed off, it's clear at that point they weren't trying to start a war, but also weren't going to allow the human ship to casually violate their territory doing god knows what.
There's a big detail here in this situation, the aliens didn't enter our space, we entered theirs.
Yes the captain is an idiot though.
@@robertbrackin6836 exactly right.
Grant failed her crew. I can forgive not wanting to start a fight you can't win, but I completely disapprove of her completely forgetting that she had a shuttle out after getting attacked. If she couldn't win, she should have collected her crew and immediately retreated.
@@gdalsup she wouldn't be able to make fast decisions while being attacked because it's not a military vessel it's purpose is meant to explore even though it has some weapons for self defense.
I have to side with the majority of the comments that this story is probably sub-par from the rest of the stories on the channel.
I did notice that there is a plot-hole at 15:35 where Grant uses the Virexian name when prior they did not know who or what they were looking at.
It's kind of downer, but for every 9 good stories, you get at least one sub-par. It's not a "bad" story, just not on that is up there in favor of the others.
ADD ON: In light of the information that this is a “Chapter 1” of sorts, I can forgive the rough start. Chapter 1s are a slog to get through.
A weak captain that got some of her crew captured and ran from a fight
She's no captain janeway
Not runaway a temporary retreat and she wasn't weak she was doing what is necessary not to start a war if possible.
To be fair, it doesn't sound like any one died on either side. Still, a little a bit of a display was clearly needed.
@@robertbrackin6836bruh she was already in a war
@@outrider425 One she wasn't in a war because she isn't fighting back. Two that was more of being bullied by aliens. Three war doesn't leave survivors.
@@robertbrackin6836 war isn’t something you can just quit from otherwise Ukraine would’ve never turned into Russias punching bag
You can tell this story was written by someone who has never been in a tense situation. Grant would never be a captain in real life in any countries military, she's too damn dumb and a coward. Also Grant is on a massive ego trip, actual leaders who have the respect of their crew doesn't have to keep telling them to not fire unless she orders it.
I'm surprised Grant didn't have a mutiny. She was a fool and a coward!
I'm gonna say this right now. Captain Grant needs to be stripped of command for gross incompetence. This wasn't just a bad call, this was an absolute failure to grasp a situation and unnecessary risk management. The instant the other ship started firing, she should have started moving away while firing everything they had at it, getting to a position where they could exit. The ONLY things she did that were not incompetent were to raise shields and have them on standby.
Wrong she did what is necessary not to cause a war because it could of been a misunderstanding even though they were making a show of strength if she could be stripped than her superiors should of done so in the briefing but they didn't she was just following protocol.
@@robertbrackin6836 Okay, she should have had the "shuttle" pulled back in the instant an alien vessel showed up on sensors (granted I think that was just a writer flub up because there was no mention of it before). But the way she handled the situation shows a SHOCKING disregard for the lives of her crew. Regardless of whether it was a fight she could have won or not, she should have withdrawn AFTER reclaiming the shuttle and it's crew, BEFORE the alien ship got any closer.
As for protocol. What kind of protocol makes you expendable?
Horizon is an exploration vessel heavily shielded but limited weapons. Their directive would be non-aggression but they have the ability to defend themselves. As for the shuttle, comms were down likely jammed by the virexians.
@@nooneofimportance2110 do you want to risk the whole ship while being shot at by the aliens this protocol was necessary sometimes you have to make decisions no matter how bad it is besides she has already sent a rescue team to bring them back.
@@nooneofimportance2110 I never said they were expendable sometimes they have to make a hard choice do you want to risk saving while being shot by aliens that risk would of endangered the whole ship she did what was necessary and she already sent a rescue team to bring them back.
What part of this was HFY? They just ran into aliens that hated us and we ran away.
If your seniors can’t see past a thousand kilometers in space you shouldn’t be there
Eyes can see past 1000 km in space so they must be blind
Had a shuttle out when the aliens showed up and did not immediately recall "at speed"? Captain abandoned a shuttle when fired on? Allowed her ship to be fired on REPEATEDLY, with a damaged shuttle out there filled with crew, and no mention BY ANYONE on the Bridge about the shuttle AT ALL until the aliens sent out THEIR shuttle? NEVER would I serve with that bunch of chicken-shite. No-one that has ever been "crew" would.
She should have been court-martialed for that dereliction of duty.
@@MrOarson Would've been a mutiny on any ship I served on. US Navy Veteran.
@@greggwilliamson In this case, Cheng would have some explaining to do as well.
@@greggwilliamsonnot if they send a rescue team to bring them back.
@@MrOarsonno sometimes they have to if necessary but even then she sent a rescue team to bring them she did what was necessary.
Now I imagine a diplomat in 40k armour in order to overcome the cultural prejudice.
And he feels very awkward for wearing this over the top armour that is barely functional. (like a cosplay)
A mildly intriguing story and well narrated... that being said, Captain Grant was not really "Command Officer" material... Although it was quickly established that this was a mere survey ship and not necessarily rigged for battle, that should mean a highly cautionary approach... "standard hails" is a foolish phrasing as it expects a common mean of communication... there really wasn't one... there should have been multiple attempts of various types, not the same thing over and over. If there was any defensive armaments on their ship, they should have swatted at the missiles to show proper defense while avoiding retaliatory fire... The sudden appearance of a crewed shuttle being on the outside of a moving ship in exploration was ludicrous. extravehicular activities are performed in a "safe" and non moving situation, they should have been brought inside the minute they first discovered the alien ship... from there on out the story inevitably devolved... not only in mostly absurd options (despite being outmatched) but in strange protocols being used... How did they manage to get their rescue shuttle to the alien ship without being discovered and blown away, much less returning intact? I understand the overall drift and tenor of this story and some parts were handled in a somewhat reasonable fashion... but there were far too many assumptions and gaps to be a truly good story... the author needs quite a bit more work on this to make it viable. Thanks again for the great narration!
Grant failed to defend her ship
That Captain hasa courtmartial coming. Textbook neglect of Duty to Crew and ship, also definitily cowardice.
That's not cowardice she was trying to do what was necessary to keep the peace she has to follow protocols to not start a war.
@@robertbrackin6836 The continuous hostile actions against her ship and crew were a declaration of war.
@supremecaffeine2633 no it wasn't either humans were trespassing in they're territory they were basically trying to get them out by shooting them.
@@supremecaffeine2633 and last I checked they didn't chase after them.
@robertbrackin6836 Chasing after an unknown enemy has been known to be a terrible idea since ancient times.
this story makes no sense . . . . no one would leave a shuttle out there.
@@silverbird425 wrong multiple countries would do that to they're own people even pirates would of abandoned them.
This is an example of a bad Leader.
Female or Male. These actions are disappointing, and undeserving of leadership.
The person writing this story needs to do some research regarding the subject. Or, work on gaining some first hand knowledge.
Either way; the Narrator did a fantastic job! Thanks for the efforts!
How do you know they weren't writing *about* a bad leader?
@ I would assume the title to reflect it.
The title suggests an emphasis on the discovery of human anatomy.
That’s why I assume leadership wasn’t the story focus.
If it's war you want. Then it is war you shall have.
0:15.
IS That A Space Marine?
😮😮
@@alessandrodolce1242 yeah but I don't think that picture is accurate for the story.
This captain needs to be court-martialed and removed from command. Her namesake would have simply annihilated the Virexians and then reported back to Earth to prepare for war.
Capt. Grant: "Oops, I accidentally got myself and my crew into becoming POW, better luck next time!"
I normally love your stories but could not get behind this one. This story just did not make any sense. Not defending after the first attack, Ok, I get it no real damage done. Not defending the shuttle with crew still inside is where I no longer believed the story and lost all respect for Grant. I understand this was a first contact situation and Grant did not want to start a war. After being told flat out by the alien leader we are at war and risking her ship and crew by not fighting back and almost losing both. Every crew member that almost lost their lives to her incompetent command decisions would never respect or trust her again. The only way I would have possibly believed this story if the author made it very clear that the human ship was very out classed. But the story made it seem like the ships were evenly matched or the human ship was superior.
The Horizon is an exploration vessel and not equipped to go punch for punch with the Virexian ship. They do have heavy shields. They could not fire upon the enemy shuttle as it was headed for theirs. The debris field may have been more than what their engineers shuttle could have handled. At the end of the day Grant kept her cool and saved her crew. The Virexians get theirs eventually.
@@Radio-hfy1. They didn't know what species the ship belonged to even if they did, they didn't fire back to even find that out, even tho they were being attacked. 2. Of course she kept her cool when she did nothing and being a deer in the headlights. 3. On no they are targeting our shuttle! Let's block them with no shots fired in order to protect the shuttle. Oh no they declare war and fire at us, let's not fire any shots back. Like seriously shoot the ship before it tries doing anything expeciely after it had already fired multiple times, it is clearly hostile.
@@leinadoArcher it's hard to save the shuttle if you shoot in that direction you risk killing the engineers in the crossfire.
@@robertbrackin6836 its hard to save anyone when the enemy was trying to slag your ship in the first shot, one of the painfully few good choices she made (keeping the shields on standby and raising them) is the only reason the humans didn't all die and end up with the shuttle captured.
@@robertbrackin6836 you wouldn't be risking hitting the shuttle if you shot the clearly hostile ship before it could get anywhere near the shuttle... In a real world scenario they would all be dead and not of made it back to earth due to the inactivity of the commander. The only reason in the story that they managed to escape was because the alien commanders were dumb, inactive, and not even trying and didn't bother pursuing their ship. This entire story is not thought out enough, and has so many problems that make the story bad.
Is this a part of series? I feel like the Saurenai and the Greys were mentioned before. Can anyone tell me the name of the video(s)?
I think it's a great story and everything grant did is justifiable, although being straight up attacked and not doing anything is crazy, I think the only thing she should have done realistically is not wait as long to pull back and fire warning shots. Other than that great story 👍
Grant is a pure bred pacifist, her crew wouldn’t have been captured if she had sent out a message for them to come back straight away upon discovery of unknown vessel, she then should have initiated a show of force after multiple failed hails, sometimes you gotta talk with your fists, that alien race wouldn’t have known what we were if it wasn’t for her inability to read the room..
@@landofthelongwhitecloud2752 attacking first would make them the aggressors that is a standard protocol in the military you should never do that can get you court marshalled for that and she did try to call them back but they didn't answer.
@@robertbrackin6836did you even watch the video? the aliens clearly fired first
Is it me are are there too many female captains in space? Why were there repair crews out in the middle of a standoff? Why weren't the shipping weapons powered up after the first volley? This isn't something tea party, going out into the wild to a potentially hostile area without your weapons at the read is folly. How did the rescue shuttle not be detected when approaching the alian ship? This story... has a lot of holes in it. How did the human ship escape without firing weapons??? And why is an exploration ship not armed to the teeth?
I demand a rewrite! The story has potential but there are to many glaring mistakes. And the captain... how did she get her position? Is she diversity hire? Because actions like that would have most people killed.
@@whosagreekgod4135 the explorer ship has weapons
@robertbrackin6836 Yeah, obviously not enough...
13:14 "They're aggressive" But they stopped firing when the human moved off. It sounds like they're defending a line. The human ship is in their territory after all.
Yep, defending their territory and testing the newcomers. They are going based on what they are used to with the grey and Sauranai.
@@TheJadeFist I agree and it's what I been trying to explain to everyone else who refuses to listen.
Really enjoying some of these. So much better narration than the others. First HFY channel I’ve subbed.
When I heard the Captain Grant was woman, I knew this was going sideways. Women respond to stress with emotions, men respond to stress with logic. If you're a cadet or an officer which gender of your commander would you choose.
Incompetent captain.
Everyone in these comments are completely misunderstanding Grant's reasons for why she chose her actions. She's not even military.
I'm not even gonna try to elaborate. I'm too tired for this. Y'all figure it out yourselves.
Only one here misunderstanding is you.
@@slizzardshroomer9666 Her actions make sense to me for her character and their mission of exploring new stuff. They were ambitious, hopeful, & naive, or at least _she_ was.
Not going to lie, this was the worst story ever. I left a like because Larissa was just as good as ever, but your writer needs to look up "rules of engagement". If anyone fires on you, you take them the fuck out! You do NOT leave your ship and crew vulnerable! Somali pirates learned this the hard way.
Sorry you felt that way. The Horizon is an Exploration vessel. Would it have been wise to stay against another larger ship with heavier armament? I thought it admirable that she was able to rescue her crew and escape to warn Terran command.
@@Radio-hfy When the other ship refused to answer, she should have pulled her shuttle on board. And even the Horizon was armed. And the story did NOT say the Virexian ship was larger. It just pointed out that their weapons were visible. That's why I said you need to get a copy of "Rules of Engagement". If she had followed protocol, her people would have been brought back on board the minute the other ship was detected. You NEVER EVER leave your people hanging like that. Once the other ship launched missiles, it's game on man. The other team initiated hostilities. When their shuttle headed for yours, shoot! Don't just sit there.
And another thing. If they have already fired on you, taken your shuttle hostage, and straight up told you that you are so different that there will be no peace, if you get a team on board, either take them out, or take THEM hostage.
15:35 "They need to get inside before the Virexians reach them" Wait... at what point did they learn these people called the Virexians? She just threw this name out randomly.
Yup, that's where I went. 👍
Oops. They are a common character in my stories. I missed it.
if this was real that ship would of been dust the second the fired on humans
You did a good job on the video I hope there is a part 2.😊👍
I don't like this story don't bother with part 2 if I hear about this Grant again I'm leaving the video and not watching it
keep the Frairen stories coming this one is shit
@@Illecron while you do that I'm will watch part 2 since I liked part 1.
Thanks! I absolutely love your narrators and the stories they read! I just wish you would credit the voice actors/writers in the description(if they're comfortable with that). These videos are amazing!
The writers names are in the description! Thank you very much for the tip :)
I love your stories, but I wish the artwork matched the description in the story.
It’s ai art, it will be weird at times
@@randomcontent789 Yes, but they could have just found different AI art that fit the story better than warhammer 40k
@@conlanmyers9759 They could’ve…
One word: Imagination
Captain is a failure.
Well these Xenos will get some Exterminatus at this point. All glory to the Empire of Man and glory to the Emperor, may he protect!
@@lanoche there is no empire of man in this story it's just the terrans that picture is not accurate to this story.
The female captain ordered her crew to run away when they were first fired upon and then claims they are standing their ground WTF?
Exploration vessel. Not offensive.
@@Radio-hfy what's that got to do with claiming that running away is holding your ground?
An exploration vessel will not “hold its ground” they are not equipped to do so.
Ah I see, they held their ground enough to gather the data they could then when it got too hairy they retreated.
While I do appreciate the narration and enjoy the accompanying pictures (like that grim dark style), this story is just bad and I can do without revisiting "Captain" Grant, even if this story is set within the regular universe we've spent time in.
The way this officer has been behaving is just abysmal and goes against anything we've come to expect from any commanding officers.
Thank you for the feedback
@@Radio-hfy I see your post and hope you don't take my criticism to heart too much. I'm very much looking forward to how the conflict will play out in future episodes and encounters.
I just felt I had to express my frustration with Cpt. Grant's command choices.
So, please, don't let it discourage you. Onward! 🖖
@@GermanNightmare1976 it most likely she will your comment is tame compared to everyone else I wouldn't be surprised if she cancels it but I hope she doesn't.
Hello from Alabama
@@rossphillips7843 I'm from Alabama as well
While grant was objectively awful whats with the sexism in the comment section‽
Like being a good leader isn't gendered. Ive know men who would have done the same.
I will say that grant should be releaved of command.
Not firing on the shuttle that captures there own makes zero sense. If a species manages space they gave either the logical abilites to recognice that shooting at something meand shors come back and that launching anything in that general direction is an target.
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First contact can easily mean for a species so inclibed to bash shields in greeting so shooting back may be the smart move any ways.
Then, there is always the chance that the species is a bunch of idiots who only go for the throat so getting the eff out of dodge asap and call in the bigwiggs to handle it is the right move.
The humans risked not alerting humanity about a bunch of murderbugs in there tunnlevision to get an peacefull first contact.
If someone throws explosives your way and you prefer not to escalate you run and alert your people about the ceazies over there.
If you blow something up in space pieces go everywhere this can be deadly for smaller craft. Of coms are down there could potentially be engineers outside. Too dangerous to engage.
Yay larissa!! 🥵 🔥
I hope there's a part 2 soon.
It's a very good story one that in my opinion should be turned into a series. Kind regards from Daniel Harman.
@@danielharman572 she's working on part 2 but it might get cancelled because of everyone else in the comments being aggressive about the story.
this is a trash story. no responce, just keep shields at full and never fire back. great plan.
@@AuStistic_Lemurr that is an exploration vessel it's not meant to attack it's meant for peaceful negotiations and explore space.
as a story it sucked! You don't just sit and allow an enemy to shoot at you without any response. obviousely the author dosen't have a clue how to handle a situation like this.
This is just bad.
@@MartinLovasz-r7r this was entertaining to me
Who wrote these shit?
You know I wanted to say that too. But it's not constructive. It was still pretty bad though. 🤣🤣🤣
That would be me, let’s talk about it…
@@goen5601 I happen to like this story it could use a little more work but other than all it's a pretty good story that I enjoy.
This was so bad definitely written by someone that never has been in danger or has taken any responsibility for their decisions.honestly even the AI stories are not this bad
Nice. The start of another saga, I hope. Looking forward to it.
No, it wasn’t a nice one. It made absolutely no sense and there is no way Grant would have made it to starship captain if that is how she performed in field. Plus, how the hell did the species know what to call one another when it was first contact and no idea what one another looked like? If we were told about one another from mutual met contacts, physical and cultural would be given along with species name.
@@Maeshalanadae I have to disagree with you this story was actually good so quit your whining already.🤦
Grant is a poor captain. And I'm not enjoying this story. Like yay lets just let our selves be bullied and our fellow humans captured because you're pathetic. Quite sad.
well thats was underwhelming, no conclusion at all, bad story at most. also what a shitty captain, afraid to escalate a situation thats already at max escalation, they were attacked and had crew captured, blast those bugs from the void. she should be punished for incompetence and endangerment of the crew and striped on her rank.
Sorry you feel that way. This is the start of The Virexian Conflict so you are right, there was no conclusion.
@@bananamuffiin9869 she can't just do that when she was trespassing in the aliens sector of space it was they're territory if she fired on them anyways it would only make them the aggressors.
Yeah that captian is a mess so mamy mistales if i would be on that ship i would retire or serv under another captain xD
Never missing these 😁
50th to comment.
I hope this one gets 2000 likes.
This is literally the worst story I remember you putting out.
Except maybe Frairen going rainbow.
This story is very badly written.
Ugh...this story was lame af... Even a vessel that's for exploration and science still should have a Captian that is willing to fight ffs!!!! Look at Star Trek....they were a science ship and they had a Bridge Crew willing to fight to DEFEND!!! Every HUMAN SHIP SHOULD HAVE A TACTICAL CREW TO PROTE T THE SCIENCE CREW 🙄🙄🙄🙄 NO fkn way a human would go unprepared 💩💩
Well Captain Grant sucks. DEI is still alive in the future so we know it's fiction.
I didn't like this story
FIRST!!!
SECOND!