Why I Use a Paid Terminal Font
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- Опубликовано: 20 авг 2024
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@netborg What kind of failure are you experiencing, and what did you try to patch? The power line stuff?
your font is the best thing i've seen all week
"I didn’t sponsor the video." Yeah, you are just holding him captive. 😅
Hi, i really love your font! was looking for a new font since ages, and yours looks just fantastic.
@Fluffy Hamster Thanks! I have seen people using the font in Linux, but you can test with the trial version if you want to be sure.
Damn never thought someone would manage to sell me a comic font
for 30 dollars too!!! you could buy a small plant with that kind of money, crazy
same! now i want that font as well!
edit: i bought the font, but just comic code ligatures regular, for $12.
I am trying to tell you I was literally just thinking the same thing!
@@doooofus You spend a lot more time with text on screen than plants, don't you? :) Plus the fonts don't die.
@@doooofus You could buy enough food ingredients to live off of for a week in most places.
That font gives me the feeling like it's snowing outside, I'm drinking hot chocolate, the house smells like baking cookies, and I'm about to program a fun game.
This.
That.
These.
Those
Them.
I'm really excited to see my wife's reaction when I explain that I spent $30 on a font.
6 days later, still married ? Did she buy a compensating "present" for herself ?
You have to explain why you spent $30? That's just not healthy.
@@justSomeUserOnYT It's a joke...
@@tomxygen5963 it's only a joke because it happens.
@@justSomeUserOnYT No, it's a joke to point out that toxic relationships *do* exist heh
I have pretty severe dyslexia and I really like opendyslexic. I tried opendyslexicmono as my terminal font for a bit a while ago.. It reads better than other fonts, but it just... doesn't really look right in the terminal. Definitely gonna give comic mono a try.
Any chance you could tell us the result?
I still use OpenDyslexic in terminal. I like it a lot!
When I am programming I want my code to look cold, dead and robotic because every keystroke should remind me of the fact that the commands of my mind are running on hardware that is made up of and powered by what humanity has ripped straight from mother nature's guts. Doesn't get more soulless than that.
I like to think I'm writing to a rock we taught how to think
*The Only Thing They Fear is You starts playing*
Same. OG monospace typewriter fonts anyone?
@@jupitersky Oh grow up. Ya little wuzz ain't got the tame to argue a position.
That sounds oddly spiritual
I can't believe you actually managed to make me buy a font, never in my wildest dreams I would've thought that I'd be buying a font
I do it relatively often when I'm doing graphic design, but for personal use there is so much available for free!
Nice. What do you think of it, Emilia? I am thinking of buying it too.
Why would you consider buying a font
@@kayd9733 comic sans. Not just "a font"... comic sans.
@@MyAmazingUsername lol
Actually, what got me hyped up for continuing learning to program was the code highlighting of my IDE. So for me personally, aesthetic does play a role in my work. But I don't really focus alot on the font.
That polish sentence at 2:34 made ma laugh a lot. It makes absolutely no sense. It basically means "In the lows he could eat a truffle, a horse or dogs" :D. Great video and great font! Might switch to it.
The Russian one means "Eat some more of those french pastries, and drink some tea". That's pretty much the most coherent Russian pangram, because I can't even translate the rest.
@@WolfgangsChannel The Czech one is also bizarre: "Příliš žluťoučký kůň úpěl ďábelské ódy" roughly translates to "Exceedingly yellow horse cried devillish odes"
@@WolfgangsChannel As a Russian I also struggle reading those Russian pangrams which don't contain repeating characters :) The sensible ones, such as the one in your video, contain - it's kind of a easy mode
upd: полистал канал, понял, что мои комментарии по поводу панграм излишни)
Those are so-dalled "pangrams". They are sentences that don't make sense but they use all of the special characters that you might want to see the font handle to get a sense of how it performs.
Fantasque Sans Mono has a lot of the same feel, although not quite as "cute". Very complete for a free font. Only supports basic cyrillic and greek, but is also very nice.
And Courier Prime Code, if you want to go another step further from "cute". Similar feeling design
Honestly the curly k loop is kute, so far have no replacement for this font
omg thanks I liked the feel of Comic Code but was too Comic Sans-y for me, Fantasque seems great!
Ubuntu Mono is also similar. I personally prefer JetBrains Mono, as it is the only monospace font I've found so far that looks great across HiDPI (i.e. Retina) and non-HiDPI screens without appearing too bold or too thin and without having to bump up the size to 40pt to distinguish the glyphs.
Going into this video, I didn't think I'd agree. And I was right. **But!** I do absolutely respect this decision now.
Same, I would never use this font even if it was free.
It's insane to see someone else use Comic Code. My friend found it and I use it as my editor font, and he uses it for his terminal font. Definitely didn't expect to see someone make a video talking about this font for the exact same purposes.
Awesome video! I just wanted to point something out since a lot of people in the comments are saying something along the lines of "Why would you pay money for a font," when typefaces really take a ton of work by the designer to be read well, give certain feelings, and suit a certain medium well (type is often designed for specific mediums like books or display). Every typeface has a designer behind it, and I feel those designers and their work are often taken for granted. There is nothing wrong with supporting type designers that do really great work!
Aye!
2:35 interesting sentence in Polish, it roughly translates to "In the lowlands he could eat truffle horse or dogs". Nevertheless, thanks for this one!
not really, it's rather "In the blues, the truffle could have been eaten by a horse or by dogs."
@@omgwtfafterparty hmm, maybe you're right.
It sounds plausible but wording is really off
Is it a typical "the quick brown fox jumps over the gate" kinda sentence, designed to showcase most of the alphabet?
@@klaernie yup, that sentence uses all 32 letters of Polish alphabet (each only once), but "x", "v" and "q" which appear in loanwords are omitted here;
There is also this one: "zażółć gęślą jaźń" which is the shortest grammatically correct text that contains all the Polish letters that are not present in the English alphabet (ąęćłńóśźż) :)
@@omgwtfafterparty thanks for confirming!
Never really thought about changing the fonts in my IDEs before. Interesting and engaging video, subscribed :)
I spend most of my day looking at screens; and most of my life now. I think buying a paid font is something I didn't realize I wanted until now. Thanks! Buying!
Thank you. I've never bought a font for coding in my life. I'm also a huge Comic Sans-hater -- and I even worked at Microsoft for 8 years. This is the most readable code font I've used.
Coming back to this video 7 months later and I'm still using this font. I can't believe you were telling the truth
Honestly, when I first saw the title of your video - I was like huh? Who would pay for a developer font , when there are like a bazillion of them available for no cost? Then I watched the full video and it makes sense. Now I'm actually considering dropping $30 on it. Going to try it out first. thanks.
“Because this video already paid the fonts off”.
The end.
This wouldn't be the first unusual thing I'm doing in my IDE: A few months ago, I replaced the iconic One Dark Vibrant theme with XCode Dark. Originally as a joke-ish but I think it'S pretty neat. I still love One Dark(er), but the contrast and readability it brings is pretty good. Dark, high contrast, but not too high
My personal favorite is Ayu (Dark, but Mirage is also good). I've since modified it a bit to my own liking, but even out of the box it looks great.
I don't have dyslexia per se (at least I was never officially diagnosed), but my astigmatism makes fonts with lots of parallel lines very uncomfortable to read. Say what you want about Comic Sans and it's derivatives, but it's done a lot of good for many people and I appreciate it for that.
I think I might have to check out Comic Code now, so thanks for shining a light on Omagari's work, I probably wouldn't have found it otherwise :)
How the hell did you make me almost rush to buy
A FONT
A COMIC SANS-LIKE FONT
First buys a mac, then buys a font, next video: why I bought a WinRAR license
you mean there is a way to get mac for free?
Stealing it from a hipster they can’t defend themselves even if you’re a child so it’s incredibly easy.
> 2022
> not using papyrus as your terminal font
> i can't hide my disgust
"Man defends his unnecessary purchase for 6 minutes straight"
My arch nemesis, Wolfgang Amadeus Moz- I can’t say it, MOZArT
The odd shape of the characters makes the text look like a blob of pixels in a sea of darkness. Good for short texts, not for structured code.
I like my Liberation Sans Mono font. A little hard on the eyes, perhaps a little old fashioned looking, but it makes my code look like code.
I mean code doesn't have to look like anything, you could program in wingdings and it would technically be valid. still, I get your point.
Even if you look past the monospace nature of the font, it looks like a much less wonky version of Comic Sans.
The ideal low-key example of "more money than taste"
on the topic of fonts feeling more alive and organic, i really like the casual version of recursive mono. i currently use the duotone set, which is casual on all but regular (tho i modded the theme to not have non-italic bold). it's a sign painting glyph style i think it's called
JetBrains Mono is such a game changer for me, it's the only one font that "feels right".
Humanism trickles its way into my terminals in a way I never could've anticipated. Great video! Thx again Wolfgang
Reminds me of the Baba is You font and feel, I love it
I've just received a few days as a birthday gift from one of my coworkers, a font called Monolisa which costs 200$..
I would never have paid that much myself but I got to admit that I LOVE this font so much and it staring at the monitor for 8-10 hours a day became a little more tolerable :)
MonoLisa does look great (although I've never been a huge fan of the cursive glyphs in italicized text), but for $200 (or even $50 for the Personal license) it is quite a steep price for many. Though, I can totally get it's worth for some to invest in something you're going to have to look at for hours end every day, especially if it's part of your job-and even better if you get it as a gift. It's also really hard to find good open source monospace fonts that looks great across all kinds of monitors and devices.
The only open source font that I've found so far that suits all my needs is JetBrains Mono which has the right weight balance across HiDPI as well as non-HiDPI screens without needing to dig into sub-pixel aliasing settings, letter spacing and font sizes.
I couldn't help but notice, "d" and "b" aren't mirrored characters in Comic Sans either. There is a difference in the vertical strokes. The top of the "d" leans away from the round part, while the top of the "b" leans towards it. Probably not significant, but slightly different all the same.
Thought it's gonna be interesting, considering comments saying that he convinced them to buy the font, but
All of the points were
"It looks comfy"
And
"It's good for dyslexic people"
Good video man! Just a note - wouldve preferred if you went a bit more in depth into how this font is better for *programming*. Like maybe compare the same source code across Comic Code vs another popular font and point out where CC shines to display the information more cleanly? Just a thought 🙏
I guess I get how. I use monospace that is default to terminator, but when I saw those fonts in the terminal of the video, it felt like cozy. Monospace feels like it's robotic, fira code feels like they are trying to be cozy while still maintaining monospace style, where CC felt like (even tho I haven't used, but from what I've seen) it seems like I'm reading doujinshi/manga/eromanhwa, what I love to do. Everytime I open up my terminal and start writing in terminal, I feel like it's so monotonic. So IG that's why?
Idea for next vid: Why I bought "magenta on gray" color scheme for IDE.
Well paying is always an option. You could always get it from “totally legal means”
People pay more for skins in a game than a typeface they use every day.
Really makes you think.
Would be nice to see people paying idk 25000 USD to the author so that he can license this font under the OFL Open Font License.
Just what I did, lol
@@nobodynoone2500 100% agreed, yeah we must find a totally legal way to avoid paying for skins
I got the link from my US friend for your channel, and just saw this video this morning. Made me a great start in the day with a laugh! Many many thanks.
tried it, it's okay, iosevka is the best font by far imo, will probably never be replaced on my machines
Thanks for this. I started using it and I'm loving this font actually. Btw, to avoid patching the font (at least for trying purposes), the terminal Kitty adds devicons to any font out of the box, so no need for patching.
Personally I'm a fan of Fantasque Sans Mono, playful and cozy but not utterly ridiculous
Now time to look for a pirate bay for fonts.
Thank you for showing us the Font. I never heard of it, but at first glance in my Terminal i absolutely love it. Danke. :)
I really like those double or triple spelling takes you leave unedited.
You are a live person, omg.
I expected this to be a RUclips short where you say, “Because I like it.”
That's why I use osumode in vscode, it's just so much more fun
Wait... this REALLY isn't a late April's Fools joke. : D
(no offense)
Sadly not lmfao this is just modern tech channels nowadays (true tragedy)
As opposed to "traditional" tech channels talking about gimmick terminal applications, tiling WMs and the fall of Western civilization 😁
@@WolfgangsChannel I wonder which channel you are talking about.. 🤔
Also, do you use a tiling WM or floating? I've been using tiling for 3 years but have recently been considering a switch back to floating to reassess my preferences..
Aqua
@@WolfgangsChannel I love the fall of western civilization and it's hilarious how common a topic it is for Linux channels
I've been using open dyslexic mono nerd font patched in my terminal for a while now, but I will admit, Comic Code looks significantly cleaner, I'm very tempted....
I too paid for Comic Code a couple of years ago, and have been using it for everything that needs a monospace font ever since: IDE, terminal, and text editor. I find the font easy to read, and it does make my programs look more alive and ready to run. I don't regret spending money on this font.
Hey! Comic Code actually looks good! Well uhh, guess I'll buy it now!
I'm very glad I don't have dyslexia; if I had to use any comic inspired font I'd gouge my eyes out
now you can write that font off as a business expense
I'm fortunate that JetBrains Mono is my all time favorite font, cause i would definitely buy one if I really liked it
This video made me entirely dyslexic, and I only watched half of it!
I'm unironically using Comics Mono as my only font in terminal and IDE for more than a year now. I guess it's time to change something in my life and switch to the Comics Code 🙌
Is there any difference between the two fonts?
I don't even know what font I'm using in the terminal. Most likely several different, in different systems. Never even thought about it.
(Although I tried to use GOST fonts in the Windows interface...)
Thank you for the reminder that Comic Sans is an accessibility feature which makes text meaningfully easier to read with Dyslexia. I wish it was said more often.
Well, guess you can find an explanation for any purchase you make 😅
Even sponsored video will not come in this quality
I've been using Comic Mono since I first saw this video a long while ago. Making Comic Sans monospace really makes it beautiful somehow...
By the way.. When I look at Monaco it really reminds me of Comic Sans family although being "cleaner" it still has a bit of a 'handwriting' vibe to it.
By the way to make it render smooth in JetBrains i had to change the following from "Subpixel" to Grayscale:
Settings > Appearance & Behavior > Appearance > Antialiasing > Editor: Grayscale
fun fact: at 2:36, the text under "diacritics and special symbols" means "in the lowlands could eat truffles horse be dog" in Polish
as a Polish person I find it hilarious lmao
fun fact: the text in cyrillic is similar to "Brey s geon mich strange gate in cftash park" which doesn't make sense in any language
You did it for the content, that's the whole answer
This level of care to the coding environment is surprisingly wholesome.
I must admit, there was zero chance I would have entertained the idea of a comic sans monospace font, but those arguments made at least make me understand why the font exists.
Its interesting, I have adhd, and it's the minimalistic / clean lines of traditional monospace fonts that feel clean and simple to me.
There's also a free Dijkstra font out there used for the same reason. Named after a computer science professor that wrote a book on "A Discipline of Programming" and the shortest-path algorithm, as it's based on his handwriting. A bit quirky, but the letters are supposed to be easy to tell apart.
okay. I bought the font on a lark. I wasn't really expecting anything to be different about my programming experience, but this does indeed feel more... chill?
I have mild issues with character recognition, I am not sure it is dyslexia as I was never tested for this, but I do often jumble numbers around in my head, and the way I read, write and even think is not linear.
This font does appear to be helping with that. I feel as though I am better able to get into a flow state with this font. It is hard to describe, but I think it is well worth the $30 for devs to try it out -- even if they do not struggle with character recognition.
Many thanks to Toshi Omagari for doing this work. And thanks to Wolfgang for the heads up on this.
I prefer Fixedsys, or rather Fixedsys Excelsior which looks the same, but has the various national characters.
I also bought my terminal+editor font: Realtime by Juri Zaech. (and I also bought Realtime Text as my discord font)
Comic Code definitely looks interesting too!
that's an interesting font
I really like the font, I'm strongly considering getting it.
I bought Dank Mono a while back, and patched it with nerd fonts. It definitely gives a premium feel when programming with it! This one looks relaly cool as well, I'll definitely have to check it out.
I can't believe I even watched this video... Now I've downloaded the free versions because you convinced me to try it out at least!
I feel like I should mention that the font Atkinson Hyperlegible was made solely to combat the problem of vision impairment type fonts looking bad. I dont know if its monospaced, though
"Příliš žluťoučký kůň úpěl ďábelské ódy" 😭😆 that one got me xD it makes literally no sense but for some reason it made me laugh that he actually used Czech language for this example to show the missing font for those characters xdd. Although there's absence of ř what a shame xdd
The greek one translates as: "the sfouggaras( old profession which is people who went diving into the sea to search and harvest natural sponges, nowadays it isn't that common since it is very dangerous and is known to create health issues to people doing it) from kalymnos (greek island) whispered that he will dive without hesitation." It is just so random and I don't know where he found it
Comic Sans is not ugly. It's overused, and inappropriately used, and was probably developed on one drunken afternoon, and was developed at a time when it was cool to hate Microsoft, but it's not ugly.
Also, Consolas was hands-down the best "serious" monospace font in the era of low DPI monitors on Windows.
You can also find the Nerd Font variant of Comic Shanns
jesus christ one of the sites you can buy this on is skeevy as hell
one of their terms is you have to give them (or anyone they're selling on behalf of) full access to any system you use the font on, unless you're able to provide sufficient logs of when and where you installed it
if you say no or otherwise violate the agreement, you also lose rights to any and all fonts you got from them
I really enjoy the casualty of it all
you're not trying to sell a silly font or whatever, just sharing a thing you love
What I really want is handwriting monospace font
My favorite monospace font is Fantasque Sans Mono, because it's legible and looks great but isn't as strict and boringly straight as most other monospace fonts. It looks a little bit playful. Now seeing this, it's got a very similar quality only even more pronounced. So I think I might unironically like this! Definitely checking out the demo, and I recommend everyone else here to try Fantasque Sans Mono as well - it's great (imo)!
I remember seeing their tweet, but I never tried it out. Also, you have sold me.
that font genuinely looks really good
this font does look kinda both monospace and hand-written, kinda cute and cozy I agree
comic code looks like someone writing on a whiteboard, compared to characters generated by a machine
This is brilliant - I got into typograhy in the 90's. It is hard to find what works for who. I did not understand the symetric problem, it makes sense now.
Comic-like fonts are really good for this stuff. I use comic shanns, free and MIT licensed.
..I actually watched the vid and he named comic shanns. my mistake.
I have my entire dwm and terminal setup in Comic Mono. Real fun.
I'm not even coding but this changes my dyslexic life for script writing
My favorite font for coding is whatever is installed on the computer. I login to a huge variety of computers every day and there’s no way in hell I could be bothered installing a particular font on every new computer I have to login and view text files.
When he showed the comparison of some actual code i really felt what he was saying.
One looks smooth, lively, like something you wanna do. The other feels cold, boring, like it's work.
Fantastique Mono (free) feels similar to me tbh. But it comic does look a bit cleaner.
I had no idea about dyslexic friendly fonts, thanks!
I recommend trying out Go Mono, which is my current favourite font (i know no one cares:)). I use it in IDE and terminal. it has no mirrored fonts, looks very pleasant and it is very easy to read imo.
I love Go Mono! Especially on hi rez screens. On low rez screens I still prefer Hack Nerd Font.
The thumbnail looks like a weird alcoholic confession.
I just want to point out that I decided to look into getting this font for myself. Unless you’re willing to pay $80 for the entire font family, the coding essentials pack requires you to select at purchase if you want or don’t want ligatures. I feel like that shouldn’t be a choice I’m locked into making upon purchase. If I decide I don’t want ligatures anymore, I guess I have no choice without buying the font again? 🤔
You can disable ligatures in pretty much any IDE or terminal application
The thing about irregular fonts in particular being more readable for dyslexic people is a widely propagated myth. There's research specifically showing OpenDyslexic isn't any easier to read for people with dyslexia than Arial.
While certain fonts are more readable, there's nothing that makes a font more readable specifically for people with dyslexia. What makes fonts more readable for those who have dyslexia are exact same things that make it more readable for everyone else.
And one thing is way more important for readability than the actual shape of the letters, and that is font size. If you want text to be readable, changing the font helps very little, while making it bigger makes all the difference. In other words, if you want readable text, just make it big.
You are completely correct. Whats even more interesting is that the studies cited by OpenDyslexic that are intended to look like they are supporting the font actually are counter to them. They provide no benefit at all.
"Heavier line thickness at the bottom of most characters intended to better anchor letters" is pseudo-science bullshit.
Feels like I shld write ruby code in it for some reason
try Recursive Mono, it has Casual style, which is also fancy (ligatures are fancy too)