I can safely say that we have more automations and shortcuts in place for our workflows in our business, than SC does for their gameplay loops... they're infact making them slower and more tedious. Feels like their end goal is for you to upload your conciousness to SC and become one with the CIG matrix. 😂
@@Good_Schmidtthey purposedly make it slow and tedious so, after the first wipe you experience, you buy their ships with real money just to avoid repeating the grind... All they care about is selling ships.
Problem is with SC they put stuff before GAMEPLAY and its a fricken chore, if i have to go through a tram ride anymore ill vomit. They also sell every single thing they already been paid to make to sell back to you again, they never make something and add to the game as they are supposed too, also the biggest PTW in history doesnt help. Finally MM is soooo bad.
This doesn't mean much without seeing the previous year. Looks like it was much lower and then started to ramp with Citizen con and their big ship event (I forget the name). So that might be yearly typical behaviour, we can't know without showing more than one year. Your assumption that it will all be dead in a few months is pretty wild tbh, you're definitely wrong there.
Just checked WoWs info and it's seems they implemented Master modes as well coz they went from 2mil to 400k, but regarding SC most player including myself just forget about the game until something new comes in in this case 4.0(which is my last hope for SC future, if it fails bye)
Lets make people besides eating and drinking also take care of their hygiene. Oh darn, thats already announced. (sweat and dirt system) EDIT: Forgot the money part - lets charge 50$ for a reuseable and quicker towel! HA thats new!
How can you fuck up a game with so much potential. All they have to do is fix the damn thing and stop adding more bugs. The team in the, pointless, videos need to stop smoking so much weed, and maybe they would get something done!!
There are a lot of games that had a lot of potential and sort of died on the vine. Look at ARK, i love that game, but it's a dumpster fire running into a natural gas depot. I never got ASA, and i never got a ship for SC. I'm not sorry about either decision.
People are not playing but they sure are paying - Star Citizen is on its way to beat previous revenue records. This is all that matters to CIG. Job well done
I believe it. No reason to play, No friends playing, and Game is tedious feeling like a job. What the heck are they doing? It's starting to feel like they want the game to die and to be strung along to prevent a lawsuit. There has been one video that seemed promising to me over the last two years.... CitizenCon better have finished amazing things else it's even more GG.
I've been playing SC for about a year, I started with a $40 package and have never spent another dime of real money. I have no issues with the game, I knew exactly what I was buying. I have gotten my $40 worth, if it succeeds that would be cool, if it fails I wont loose sleep over the $40 I spent.
@@5pacecake Sorry to tell you, but you are wrong. I bought the $40 package and have never spent any more. I now have 24 ships and 6 ground vehicles all purchased with in game money earned salvaging. In game name is Darphyus, say hi some time.
GEM discovers the yearly Star citizen cycle. That being said, the feature that contributed most to the decline is the combination of mastermodes which moved all dogfighting and pirating that existed until then out of balance, the higher ship prices in-game discouraging players to earn ships in-game and the inflexibility of item banks.
at the moment im wondering what to do with my virpil setup, star citizen is not really an option anymore, cig suck too much donkey stick for me to spend any more time on it
it always goes up around the winter months and drops usually in the summer. sales on more pictures... i mean "ships" and they usually release a major update around this time are the two driving forces behind it. i have some money in the game. i had it at the time and wanted some things. also at the time it was a promise of the game being out next month... but they do have players after the large patches that last for a month or two or sometimes a little longer but again it always dies back down. i did have hopes for the game. its been squashed by the constant "we have been creating the technology to build the game and now we are actually starting work on it" sayings by the community or the developers and then its another 10+ pictures of ships that would be cool to fly one day and a little bit of work. maybe a new planet. but it always comes back to the game is in development or early access or alpha or prealpha or what ever else. i am tired of it. i gave up on it. ill come back when or if they ever actually do something. until then. i can play many other games that can scratch the itch.
@BethBTC what games are you playing? I would love to play games with you! With you, i would dare to fly with master modes and spend hours moving boxes for no good reason. Sorry but in the picture you look cute :P
@@THEMALBINO oh, lets see. lol. currently installed on my large M.2. star trucker. avorion. star citizen. elite dangerous. the witcher series. the assassin creed series. cyberpunk 2077. destiny 2. division 2. factorio. satisfactory. x4. god of war. space marine 2. hogwarts legacy. red dead 2. starfield. elder scrolls online. and skyrim. lol. my drive is still not even half full. lmao. but i have everything that i play and enjoy. with most of my games having time played of thousands of hours. i lost a fewish 20 or so years to world of warcrat. but its not installed. also eve online. again not installed but another 20+ year game. star trek online. swtor. and a few other major MMOs. and id be willing to hang in SC. or in another one of these games. i have an msr that would be a great hauler. i want to eventually ditch that and go with an exploration ship and also a cargo ship. i was looking at the zeus es and cl. i could get one of each for selling my msr and a couple of random ships. lol. as for my picture. lol. lots of makeup at the time. and camera tricks. i do not look that good in real life. there is a reason i have no life. LMAO!
I wasted so much money on this game. Just started earlier this year when it was still 3.22. Quit playing after 3.23. Tried 3.24 for about an hour, and it was just horrible. I had over $700 invested and was well on my way to concierge, but not the way it's going now. They really messed up with this monetization over fun factor.
CIG is seeing record profits this year but no one is playing, that means the whales and suckers are desperately dumping their cash into the project trying to keep it afloat...
Ehh not really. People arent playing because there isnt shit to do in game. The things there are to do there is no reason to do them. oh, and its a buggy POS
A lot of the whales are fed up and not buying anything either. To make up for fewer sales, CIG is raising the prices on things and releasing more straight to flyables while ignoring the backlog. Just look at the ATL$ - CIG broke cargo forcing you to have to buy with real cash this tool to move the larger cargo crates since its not buyable in game for at least 2 patches. IE now its pay to win. It was priced way to high for what it is. CIG has become the greedy enterprise they rallied us against in the KS
can you imagine how many videos you'll be able to create showing content of Light no Fire when it comes out? I think it's gonna drag a lot of attention back to Hello Games, the attention they deserve
This game has no depth, I'm waiting for 4.0, also the UI is annoying, the interactions are too heavy, you connect and wait for your ship...(so you log out to come back and play later) the fact that it's beautiful and immersive is no longer enough.
Yeh i can say when i first started playing a few years ago I felt like nearly everyone who played or created content was brainwashed now i feel like most people who have played star citizen at some point have now finally given up. I think everyone is still secretly waiting for server meshing but Id have to guess that shit will be just as broken as the game is now
This is what happens when you try to make Escape from Tarkov with 40 minute prep time.😂 They keep alienating PvE players which is by far the largest demographic for these types of games. CIG wake up or a one way trip on a concord is in your future.
My question is how do they know who is playing any game? Do they count people that have the game installed on their PCs or the players tnat start up the game? Because for me playing a game means that I start it up and PLAY for at least one hour. Because there is a difference between log in to see what is different or new and actually play the game and progress your character or whatever. So, how do they track that?
wow are you really going to question a technology that has existed for like 20 years? "OMG HOW DO THEY KNOW HOW MANY PPL PLAYED THE CS BETA I CALL HAX." -gamers 20 years ago.
mmo populations cant know if you play it or not, instead they track social media about it and make an "educated" guess, wich basically means they look how many pple talk on social media like discord or twitter about it and then magically guess. while the numbers are obviously completely wrong what they definitely track is rise and fall relative over time.
@@cheesesniper473 At first I was going to send you get romantic with yourself, because you know, I don't usually respond politely to stpd people, but then I thought "let's try to show this Klingon how a grown ups discussion is made." So,... My question IS NOT about the ways they have to track several things but WHAT EXACTLY THEY TRACK specifically. Do you GET IT now or you have started your hand self pleasure already?
@@cheesesniper473 At first I was going to send you get romantic with yourself, because you know, I don't usually respond politely to no brain people, but then I thought "let's try to show this Klingon how a grown ups discussion is made." So,... My question IS NOT about the ways they have to track several things but WHAT EXACTLY THEY TRACK specifically. Do you GET IT now or you have started your hand self pleasure already?
@@cheesesniper473 A) At first I was going to send you get romantic with yourself, because you know, I don't usually respond politely to no brain people, but then I thought "let's try to show this Klingon how a grown ups discussion is made."
I feel so sad about all the delulu people that have spend thousands of dollars in SC buying ships for a game that will never be what rhey thought it would be.....
They released master modes with the sole purpose of making cheap space fighters no more able to take on bigger ships, so to force who stuck to fighters to buy bigger ships with real money...same reason why they have been systematically nerfing each and every gameplay loop sooner or later, after realizing people were making in game money with them. And now their stupid policies are turning against them. Greed kills....
13 years of Alpha and people are suprised?? I left 3 times and I think everyone is just moving on now. CIG fucked up really bad promising but never delivering. Shame, the concept and art work was amazing but the games unplayable and bugged to absolute shit. Blame all the greedy DEvs who took all that Crowd Funded backer money and blew it. Hope they get their Karma. Such a big let down.
Pre-mastermodes 3.23 the average players was 140k, MM releases and player count drops to 70k average active players. Now 4 months later the average is down to 47k. But CIG thinks its all good
Sadly probably a Demrat... More free to play that use too mutch server bandwith, so some actual players prefer to wait for it to end before playing again. Pay to win as the Obamacare is crap and private service is in busness. Servers crashing and burning, but its a peacefull event. Promises that others games actually do, but just maybe one day when it get a gold pass.(i heard Gargamella Harris promise the same shit that the T guy offer in order to try stealing his votes...)
I checked Elite Dangerous' chart on this website - bc that is what I know: the yearly data looks fudged. Not only they didn't manage to nail the release date but the high player numbers a year ago makes zero sense. I know there weren't such a high bump there. I assume the same for SC as well. The daily players in the last month correlates to my calculations in ED. But not the second statistics. Again, I assume the same in SC. My question is from there this website gets the data?
I wouldnt draw any conclusions from that site - they warn in about page that the data is not even close to being accurate and if u look at some games the methodology is obviously flawed. According to them anthem enjoyed a mysterious 400% increase last xmas, while roblox has crashed even though quarterly reports show users and revenue are soaring and have been since they went public 3yrs ago. It's a shame kickstarter projects arent required to disclose data like public owned companies but that will become a legal argument when chris escapes to a tax haven.
How long does it takes to set up a block building minigame to construct your own gear/base/outpost/space-station, ect... Resources needed to make X Y and Z items, their price relative to the rarity should have been counted for everyting from the start. How mutch quantanium is needed to make a lv1 hyperdrive ? An energy gun ? A battery for an energy gun ? I have been playing NMS and a horrible game named QANGA lately, and had fun.
Master Modes killed space combat. Dumbest fucking decision they made, and the people who made those choices should be fired and replaced by people who actually like flying/combat or at least have experience in it.
I nearly cracked when you said "I am not a hater" :). That was your best one yet. You should have either used a chart that starts in November 2023 or cut your screen off there to fuel your agenda. Otherwise people might get the idea that the huge count of about 800 k players might be related to Citizencon in 2023, since you can spot that the count was way lower before (and probably as low as now). That is the normal cycle for SC since the game is not finished and most players only log in after patches and stuff. You have to get better to destroy the game.
@@gemreviews2840 Well it is either your very special perspective that leads to your overwhelmingly negative evaluation or some personal vendetta/affiliation. The fact that you did not commented on my actual argument (cyclic player fluctuation) shows, as does the fact that CIG still is being well funded by people who find joy in playing SC. Only time will tell if CIG manages to destroy their game/company before they achieve their goals and so far all the doomers were wrong.
@@gemreviews2840 Dude you're using fake datas from mmo population and you know it. They have no ideas and no datas about what the population was one year ago or what the population is today. Their numbers come from their ass. And btw, they "estimate" that SC has 22 millions of backers, which is laughable and destroy any credibility of their numbers.
Master Modes killed the game just like I knew it would. CIG is now scrambling to bring in the casual crowd by simplifying everything and making it an arcade space shooter/Beam citizen. The original space sim crowd has moved on.
Not all, speak for yourself. The game is worse last two builds from my orgs and friends pespective, we are all playing other games and not this vanity project. Get your head out of chris roberts arse my man
Look at any year, and it looks like that. People hop on after big patch releases and big events. This isn't the type of game that has consistent players because most of us are just keeping tabs on the project as it progresses.
1) You do the grind, get the ships/ gear - that's it. They kill you if you try to fly in and explore the cities. 2) They insult your intelligence with their blatant cash robbery scams. It's all so tiresome.
I log in and 5 minutes later or, 20 minutes later if I went through my inventory to gear up, I simply log out. No patience for this wannabe never be game anymore. They made their money and are now walking away from it.
The question is not whether or not star citizen is in alpha but why is it STILL in alpha after almost 12 years🤷🏻♂️😬it’s because of incompetence and a bad approach to game design.. any other example of an alpha you can think of that lasted for many years was 90% more advanced than star citizen is right now in it’s progression.. read the tea leaves man the writing is on the wall that something is not right at CIG
You sound very uneducated about the fact that the "game" has been in "alpha" for over a DECADE. That's not alpha, that's failure. Alpha is there excuse to keep taking people's money WITHOUT having to deliver a damn thing.
Some people have multiple accounts and there are all the people who install the game, try and uninstall it again. So I wonder how many ongoing players there really are ..
november is A.I.E thats why its so high it will do the same thing this year. this is normal and its not dead. also the "no one is spending money on this crap" comment is not true c.i.g is in track to make more money this year then every other year. stop lying you have more then enough reasons to hate on the game don't make up reasons.
Player retention was high up until MM. And growth is way down. "Record funding" means nothing. Companies bank on projected growth. If you project to have 15%, you budget and spend that much, but when you only get 3% growth, you are massively in the hole. Even though you "made a record."
They dont respect your time. You pay to test an unpableyable alpha. A lot of ships, but not much to do with them. What tired me was that they wipe whenever they feel liked to. Maybe i will try 4.0 for a couple of hours.
I always like seeing what you have behind you. I have an Aussie L1A1 and an FMP G3 that I have built up from parts kits (Coonan rcvr on FAL and bent an RTG flat for the G3). You always have something interesting, can't tell if that's a 29 or 686 or snake gun over your right shoulder. On topic though, been following you for a while and just totally discouraged with what CIG has been doing. I have the same complaints as everyone else does. I haven't played in over a year now, and the whole MM fiasco has me just hanging back and seeing what they do next.
I mean i know i'm on the outside looking in, but for me i want to play but will only jump in when ever it's in a more fully released state...if that ever happens.
game crashes at loading for me. could play only 1 week or so. not that i enjoy the game, but still. it was the same crash for the past 6 months. unbelievable.
It doesn't matter how many people play it. What matters (to CIG for sure) is that they will hit 120 mln this year. And if they actually release Titan suit and couple other ships, maybe even 130 mln.
@@Cpt_Kakashi not from 10, maybe from 1000. But that's the point - even if only those 1000 pay (even if they don't ever launch the game), it's enough for CIG.
Ive played SC for a long time 2012 but Im bored every time I log in an the only fun I have is arena commander dogfights. I dread having to to take a train to just to 30k really feels like a job not a game.
As a hardcore space nerd it's weird to say but.. I hope they go bankrupt and get drowned in lawsuits, never have i seen such disgusting ways to generate money in a game or any other practice for that matter. 10 years and 600+ million bucks for a game that's not even worth the title "Alpha state"
Look at the state of gaming today.. AAA games releasing in a Alpha state.. (disgusting ways to generate money) but yet CIG isn't forcing anyone to pay up.. It's the individual choice on what they choose to spend their money on. Every MMO game or Online game has a low point.. I've even took breaks from the game to focus on others. But hey, that's opinion. I just don't agree with it.
they don t care ... no month subscriber ( almost ), if you do a bad product you need less server to maintain = more money in your pocket, specialy test is almost done for evocati now ... in same time the game got a critical bug in the game play loop every 5 min ... impossible to enjoy or play
This guy claims to hate SC, as well as include false stats and claims, yet still wants his referral bonus You RUclipsrs, well not really you considering how small your channel is, make me laugh. Hate on the game publically for clicks, play it in private.
Yeah it's boring and we have nothing to do in game. I really just want to have big space battles with our big ships. We know the Polaris is ready and done, we just gotta wait for some reason We know the Idris is done and flyable, I personally flied one for 24 hours, THEY JUST WONT give it to us. Why is It so hard to release us the ships and let us just battle. Also make ERT missions make sense... Make it a javelin, make it a bengal, make it a challenge... it sucks playing this sh_t when I know I am getting blueballed.
i tried to play. its so buggy i couldnt even do like 2 hualing missions before it broke. spent 2 hrs playing to wind up worse off than i started and just feeling pissed off
Dont play other games! I just saw a thumbnail of a SC leak channel and the Vanduul are comming.. with a banu merchantman.. and a pet sandworm.. in just 2 years! Just.. let them cook! dont be toxic! 😂
HAHAHAHA They all dropped like that because..... SUMMER FFS. Did you not look at the others? Almost idential drop offs. People are touching grass bro. Can you pull up like a 5 year trend? That would be interresting. So currently SC is 56k players per day this month whereas Elder Scrolls Online 20k, New World 8k, Lost Ark 51k, Elite Dangerous 23k, Eve online 35k and Destiny 2 41k. I guess all of those suck too? Why is nomans sky not there? Wierd.
You're comparing games that have been completed for years if not decades in one case to a game that is nowhere near complete. These game already had their time in the sun and have their settled out hardcore players. The support teams for these games are a fraction of what SC uses, so their overhead costs are minimal in comparison. CIG requires a LOT of money to support their headcount and SC is their only source for income at the moment.
Sure bro, everything is fine. Thats why they are desperate for money like a whore that needs to pay its pimp😅 May 2023 412.5 thousand players, May 2024 76.2 thousand...
Same time last year is the comparison. They lost most players and that is 100% fact! Just keep on waiting for a better next year for the coming 12+ years.
I’m no CIG apologiser but so do many of the other games on your list. Hitting a major slump in 2024-04. Wow, RuneScape, warframe. Maybe do more research before making a video. Makes it less personal.
they want to focus on new players and no new players are coming. The current result is crazy given that fact. $imps make it real, hope for them it was worth the price.
bro, servers are still full of players , activity is as usual to me , no idea if that website is accurate or even captures populations correctly , what I see ingame is much different, servers full of players, spectrum forums' activity is as usual, no changes in the last few years
I was on a 6 man server last night, 26 man tonight, thr hundreds of players in my two orgs are not playing, all i see is new players during peek hours, its not as busy as it was buy far, but maybe that is just me and the orgs that have been here 8yrs, im sure its fine really, 👍
@@ashj8998 well my org is not as active as before either, pretty much dead, rarely somebody playing, difficult to play together when it's so difficult to get to the same server tho
also I just logged in to check a server , 22 players but consider it's just 9am here in Europe, there are usually many more players in the afternoon and evening
People dont understand that data does not give a fuck about you liking master modes space sailing. CIG needs to act asap and set their pride aside to save the game. Get rid of that slow and boring "flight" more like sail model!
Playing Star Citizen feels like walking into your second job after an 8 hour shift at your first job. 😅
Facts!!!!!
and instead if getting paid, you have to pay 🤨
Bingo!
I can safely say that we have more automations and shortcuts in place for our workflows in our business, than SC does for their gameplay loops... they're infact making them slower and more tedious. Feels like their end goal is for you to upload your conciousness to SC and become one with the CIG matrix. 😂
@@Good_Schmidtthey purposedly make it slow and tedious so, after the first wipe you experience, you buy their ships with real money just to avoid repeating the grind...
All they care about is selling ships.
First time in 10 years ive suddenly got another 100+ gig free space on my ssd.
Now to figure out how I'm going to repurpose a HOSAS/Tobii setup. I guess I can fire up MS Flight Simulator.
lol, erased ptu and hot fix 😅 still have live
@@gemreviews2840 U do not see at mmo-population, that all games have same gap vs last year? Sure u re a.....
Problem is with SC they put stuff before GAMEPLAY and its a fricken chore, if i have to go through a tram ride anymore ill vomit.
They also sell every single thing they already been paid to make to sell back to you again, they never make something and add to the game as they are supposed too, also the biggest PTW in history doesnt help.
Finally MM is soooo bad.
This doesn't mean much without seeing the previous year. Looks like it was much lower and then started to ramp with Citizen con and their big ship event (I forget the name). So that might be yearly typical behaviour, we can't know without showing more than one year. Your assumption that it will all be dead in a few months is pretty wild tbh, you're definitely wrong there.
yup, it is a bad hater. Many game have this graphic allthe years...
Just checked WoWs info and it's seems they implemented Master modes as well coz they went from 2mil to 400k, but regarding SC most player including myself just forget about the game until something new comes in in this case 4.0(which is my last hope for SC future, if it fails bye)
quick, how do we make the game more tedious and pay-to-win!?
"ATLS WITH TURBO LOADING, CHARGE 120 BUCKS. GET IT UP YA." - CIG dev, probably.
Lets make people besides eating and drinking also take care of their hygiene. Oh darn, thats already announced. (sweat and dirt system)
EDIT: Forgot the money part - lets charge 50$ for a reuseable and quicker towel! HA thats new!
We pay CIG win!
Uh, how is it pay to win?
Please, tell me how do you pay to win?
I haven't even downloaded 3.24.x
What even is 3.24? 😂
Don't. It didn't do shit.
How can you fuck up a game with so much potential. All they have to do is fix the damn thing and stop adding more bugs.
The team in the, pointless, videos need to stop smoking so much weed, and maybe they would get something done!!
There are a lot of games that had a lot of potential and sort of died on the vine. Look at ARK, i love that game, but it's a dumpster fire running into a natural gas depot. I never got ASA, and i never got a ship for SC. I'm not sorry about either decision.
People are not playing but they sure are paying - Star Citizen is on its way to beat previous revenue records. This is all that matters to CIG. Job well done
Dreams can be addictive
I believe it. No reason to play, No friends playing, and Game is tedious feeling like a job. What the heck are they doing? It's starting to feel like they want the game to die and to be strung along to prevent a lawsuit. There has been one video that seemed promising to me over the last two years.... CitizenCon better have finished amazing things else it's even more GG.
the lawsuit will come if they don't keep going, many ppl spent thousands USD in the game
Master Modes and yogi fucked this game up
I've been playing SC for about a year, I started with a $40 package and have never spent another dime of real money. I have no issues with the game, I knew exactly what I was buying. I have gotten my $40 worth, if it succeeds that would be cool, if it fails I wont loose sleep over the $40 I spent.
nobody that only spend 40$ on star citizen has ever made a comment about it on youtube.
@@5pacecake Sorry to tell you, but you are wrong. I bought the $40 package and have never spent any more. I now have 24 ships and 6 ground vehicles all purchased with in game money earned salvaging. In game name is Darphyus, say hi some time.
funny since master modes its all been downhill lol. That gaslighting post from Yogi was hilarious
Will calling him out on the bs would earn you a suspension?
GEM discovers the yearly Star citizen cycle. That being said, the feature that contributed most to the decline is the combination of mastermodes which moved all dogfighting and pirating that existed until then out of balance, the higher ship prices in-game discouraging players to earn ships in-game and the inflexibility of item banks.
at the moment im wondering what to do with my virpil setup, star citizen is not really an option anymore, cig suck too much donkey stick for me to spend any more time on it
it always goes up around the winter months and drops usually in the summer. sales on more pictures... i mean "ships" and they usually release a major update around this time are the two driving forces behind it. i have some money in the game. i had it at the time and wanted some things. also at the time it was a promise of the game being out next month... but they do have players after the large patches that last for a month or two or sometimes a little longer but again it always dies back down. i did have hopes for the game. its been squashed by the constant "we have been creating the technology to build the game and now we are actually starting work on it" sayings by the community or the developers and then its another 10+ pictures of ships that would be cool to fly one day and a little bit of work. maybe a new planet. but it always comes back to the game is in development or early access or alpha or prealpha or what ever else. i am tired of it. i gave up on it. ill come back when or if they ever actually do something. until then. i can play many other games that can scratch the itch.
@BethBTC what games are you playing? I would love to play games with you! With you, i would dare to fly with master modes and spend hours moving boxes for no good reason. Sorry but in the picture you look cute :P
@@THEMALBINO oh, lets see. lol. currently installed on my large M.2. star trucker. avorion. star citizen. elite dangerous. the witcher series. the assassin creed series. cyberpunk 2077. destiny 2. division 2. factorio. satisfactory. x4. god of war. space marine 2. hogwarts legacy. red dead 2. starfield. elder scrolls online. and skyrim. lol. my drive is still not even half full. lmao. but i have everything that i play and enjoy. with most of my games having time played of thousands of hours. i lost a fewish 20 or so years to world of warcrat. but its not installed. also eve online. again not installed but another 20+ year game. star trek online. swtor. and a few other major MMOs.
and id be willing to hang in SC. or in another one of these games. i have an msr that would be a great hauler. i want to eventually ditch that and go with an exploration ship and also a cargo ship. i was looking at the zeus es and cl. i could get one of each for selling my msr and a couple of random ships. lol.
as for my picture. lol. lots of makeup at the time. and camera tricks. i do not look that good in real life. there is a reason i have no life. LMAO!
I wasted so much money on this game. Just started earlier this year when it was still 3.22. Quit playing after 3.23. Tried 3.24 for about an hour, and it was just horrible. I had over $700 invested and was well on my way to concierge, but not the way it's going now. They really messed up with this monetization over fun factor.
CIG is seeing record profits this year but no one is playing, that means the whales and suckers are desperately dumping their cash into the project trying to keep it afloat...
maybe their are also washing some dirty clothes - if you get the message 😉
Most definitely..the whales are basically throwing cash in the dumpster 😂
or they are LIARS.
Ehh not really. People arent playing because there isnt shit to do in game. The things there are to do there is no reason to do them. oh, and its a buggy POS
A lot of the whales are fed up and not buying anything either. To make up for fewer sales, CIG is raising the prices on things and releasing more straight to flyables while ignoring the backlog. Just look at the ATL$ - CIG broke cargo forcing you to have to buy with real cash this tool to move the larger cargo crates since its not buyable in game for at least 2 patches. IE now its pay to win. It was priced way to high for what it is. CIG has become the greedy enterprise they rallied us against in the KS
can you imagine how many videos you'll be able to create showing content of Light no Fire when it comes out? I think it's gonna drag a lot of attention back to Hello Games, the attention they deserve
Hello Games definitely has my attention and I will be checking out the game! Enjoying NMS and like their redemption arc.
This game has no depth, I'm waiting for 4.0, also the UI is annoying, the interactions are too heavy, you connect and wait for your ship...(so you log out to come back and play later) the fact that it's beautiful and immersive is no longer enough.
Well said👏👏👏
Yeh i can say when i first started playing a few years ago I felt like nearly everyone who played or created content was brainwashed now i feel like most people who have played star citizen at some point have now finally given up. I think everyone is still secretly waiting for server meshing but Id have to guess that shit will be just as broken as the game is now
This is what happens when you try to make Escape from Tarkov with 40 minute prep time.😂
They keep alienating PvE players which is by far the largest demographic for these types of games. CIG wake up or a one way trip on a concord is in your future.
My question is how do they know who is playing any game?
Do they count people that have the game installed on their PCs or the players tnat start up the game?
Because for me playing a game means that I start it up and PLAY for at least one hour.
Because there is a difference between log in to see what is different or new and actually play the game and progress your character or whatever.
So, how do they track that?
wow are you really going to question a technology that has existed for like 20 years?
"OMG HOW DO THEY KNOW HOW MANY PPL PLAYED THE CS BETA I CALL HAX." -gamers 20 years ago.
mmo populations cant know if you play it or not, instead they track social media about it and make an "educated" guess, wich basically means they look how many pple talk on social media like discord or twitter about it and then magically guess.
while the numbers are obviously completely wrong what they definitely track is rise and fall relative over time.
@@cheesesniper473 At first I was going to send you get romantic with yourself, because you know, I don't usually respond politely to stpd people, but then I thought "let's try to show this Klingon how a grown ups discussion is made."
So,...
My question IS NOT about the ways they have to track several things but WHAT EXACTLY THEY TRACK specifically.
Do you GET IT now or you have started your hand self pleasure already?
@@cheesesniper473 At first I was going to send you get romantic with yourself, because you know, I don't usually respond politely to no brain people, but then I thought "let's try to show this Klingon how a grown ups discussion is made."
So,...
My question IS NOT about the ways they have to track several things but WHAT EXACTLY THEY TRACK specifically.
Do you GET IT now or you have started your hand self pleasure already?
@@cheesesniper473 A) At first I was going to send you get romantic with yourself, because you know, I don't usually respond politely to no brain people, but then I thought "let's try to show this Klingon how a grown ups discussion is made."
I feel so sad about all the delulu people that have spend thousands of dollars in SC buying ships for a game that will never be what rhey thought it would be.....
They released master modes with the sole purpose of making cheap space fighters no more able to take on bigger ships, so to force who stuck to fighters to buy bigger ships with real money...same reason why they have been systematically nerfing each and every gameplay loop sooner or later, after realizing people were making in game money with them.
And now their stupid policies are turning against them.
Greed kills....
13 years of Alpha and people are suprised?? I left 3 times and I think everyone is just moving on now. CIG fucked up really bad promising but never delivering. Shame, the concept and art work was amazing but the games unplayable and bugged to absolute shit. Blame all the greedy DEvs who took all that Crowd Funded backer money and blew it. Hope they get their Karma. Such a big let down.
Pre-mastermodes 3.23 the average players was 140k, MM releases and player count drops to 70k average active players. Now 4 months later the average is down to 47k.
But CIG thinks its all good
How do they have this data I thought cig doesn't release there game active player stats?
They made them up, this whole video is his typical "I hate SC". Non the less the still promotes his referal-key.
Roberts is a grifter. He should get into politics!
Sadly probably a Demrat... More free to play that use too mutch server bandwith, so some actual players prefer to wait for it to end before playing again. Pay to win as the Obamacare is crap and private service is in busness. Servers crashing and burning, but its a peacefull event. Promises that others games actually do, but just maybe one day when it get a gold pass.(i heard Gargamella Harris promise the same shit that the T guy offer in order to try stealing his votes...)
I guess after all these years, the players were always the product, there is no game.
Chart looks same for all the top games on this website
When you have a game that allows wallet warriors to easily outclass you, what did you expect.
I checked Elite Dangerous' chart on this website - bc that is what I know: the yearly data looks fudged. Not only they didn't manage to nail the release date but the high player numbers a year ago makes zero sense. I know there weren't such a high bump there. I assume the same for SC as well. The daily players in the last month correlates to my calculations in ED. But not the second statistics. Again, I assume the same in SC. My question is from there this website gets the data?
Was that when they introduced master modes?
They'll be fine.
They'll just introduce another overpowered ship and nerf it later.
I wouldnt draw any conclusions from that site - they warn in about page that the data is not even close to being accurate and if u look at some games the methodology is obviously flawed. According to them anthem enjoyed a mysterious 400% increase last xmas, while roblox has crashed even though quarterly reports show users and revenue are soaring and have been since they went public 3yrs ago. It's a shame kickstarter projects arent required to disclose data like public owned companies but that will become a legal argument when chris escapes to a tax haven.
How long does it takes to set up a block building minigame to construct your own gear/base/outpost/space-station, ect...
Resources needed to make X Y and Z items, their price relative to the rarity should have been counted for everyting from the start.
How mutch quantanium is needed to make a lv1 hyperdrive ? An energy gun ? A battery for an energy gun ?
I have been playing NMS and a horrible game named QANGA lately, and had fun.
Master Modes killed space combat. Dumbest fucking decision they made, and the people who made those choices should be fired and replaced by people who actually like flying/combat or at least have experience in it.
It didn't just kill space combat. It killed the thrill of just flying around the system.
First person combat master modes balance is next. When in combat mode you have your armor and all your gear, and when running you will be naked.
ture ... chill is gone ... UI is for a smartphone ... and new feature doesn't work.
10 years over 10K prove I'm still supporting this shit .!
I nearly cracked when you said "I am not a hater" :). That was your best one yet. You should have either used a chart that starts in November 2023 or cut your screen off there to fuel your agenda. Otherwise people might get the idea that the huge count of about 800 k players might be related to Citizencon in 2023, since you can spot that the count was way lower before (and probably as low as now). That is the normal cycle for SC since the game is not finished and most players only log in after patches and stuff. You have to get better to destroy the game.
😅I have to get better to destroy the game? Sweetheart, unfortunately they are doing just that perfectly well by themselves.
@@gemreviews2840 Well it is either your very special perspective that leads to your overwhelmingly negative evaluation or some personal vendetta/affiliation. The fact that you did not commented on my actual argument (cyclic player fluctuation) shows, as does the fact that CIG still is being well funded by people who find joy in playing SC. Only time will tell if CIG manages to destroy their game/company before they achieve their goals and so far all the doomers were wrong.
@@gemreviews2840
Dude you're using fake datas from mmo population and you know it.
They have no ideas and no datas about what the population was one year ago or what the population is today.
Their numbers come from their ass.
And btw, they "estimate" that SC has 22 millions of backers, which is laughable and destroy any credibility of their numbers.
Also a pretty solid indicator that we are entering a Recession.
Holy shit..Like the wise man said "Nothing lasts forever under the moon".
Next step is preorder for Squadron, watch
Currently playing the shit out of Space Marine 2 and the new Rogue Trader DLC. Don't much care about other games atm.
dark and darker ....
Master Modes killed the game just like I knew it would. CIG is now scrambling to bring in the casual crowd by simplifying everything and making it an arcade space shooter/Beam citizen. The original space sim crowd has moved on.
this website is not accurate at all btw
No. This from my perspective true. Form my clan 200 players active play only 4, before MM active play 25 people.
CR: People love stacking boxes so much, they will pay us to do it!
They will play again when they have a working product.
Master mode, ships rebalance, FPS mission not working etc. We are all waiting for 4.0.
Not all, speak for yourself. The game is worse last two builds from my orgs and friends pespective, we are all playing other games and not this vanity project. Get your head out of chris roberts arse my man
dunno for what people wiating 4.0 ... he will fix nothing.
4.0 is just going to add more broken half baked systems on top of it all what will that solve
@@dimitrirouge5568 the balance of the ships....
Look at any year, and it looks like that. People hop on after big patch releases and big events. This isn't the type of game that has consistent players because most of us are just keeping tabs on the project as it progresses.
hard drive real estate is a real thing. This is a game that has one solar system and how many gigs now?
bruh who doesnt have a 4tb SSD yet? Ive had once since 2015
Oh the troll is back.
Older players with long-term MMO experience know that nothing lasts forever.
1) You do the grind, get the ships/ gear - that's it. They kill you if you try to fly in and explore the cities.
2) They insult your intelligence with their blatant cash robbery scams. It's all so tiresome.
I log in and 5 minutes later or, 20 minutes later if I went through my inventory to gear up, I simply log out. No patience for this wannabe never be game anymore. They made their money and are now walking away from it.
So I'm not sure if you're aware, but SC is in alpha, it's not a finished game. People are waiting for it to become finished to play.
The question is not whether or not star citizen is in alpha but why is it STILL in alpha after almost 12 years🤷🏻♂️😬it’s because of incompetence and a bad approach to game design.. any other example of an alpha you can think of that lasted for many years was 90% more advanced than star citizen is right now in it’s progression.. read the tea leaves man the writing is on the wall that something is not right at CIG
You sound very uneducated about the fact that the "game" has been in "alpha" for over a DECADE. That's not alpha, that's failure. Alpha is there excuse to keep taking people's money WITHOUT having to deliver a damn thing.
I'll jump back in for the first time in over 2 years once my new PC arrives
omg... explains everything.
Some people have multiple accounts and there are all the people who install the game, try and uninstall it again. So I wonder how many ongoing players there really are ..
4.0 will be buggy trash the same as every patch. Even hotter take, so will full release.
You expect a full release? I'll get my barren wife to do that before SC does.
People may not be playing and player count isn't growing but total pledge increased in September by 19.7% compared to last year. Whales be burning $
Honestly? I dont believe a damn word CIG says.
Uk reporting laws mean actual prison time if they lie about this
november is A.I.E thats why its so high it will do the same thing this year. this is normal and its not dead. also the "no one is spending money on this crap" comment is not true c.i.g is in track to make more money this year then every other year. stop lying you have more then enough reasons to hate on the game don't make up reasons.
Player retention was high up until MM.
And growth is way down. "Record funding" means nothing. Companies bank on projected growth. If you project to have 15%, you budget and spend that much, but when you only get 3% growth, you are massively in the hole. Even though you "made a record."
This blogger didn't have the smarts to look at these same charts for the top 10 games and see the same pattern, then draw the correct conclusions.
No, they didnt. We are all just waiting for 4.0
Lol…right..and then when 4.0 is just the same dog shit you’ll be waiting for 1.0 😂
Yeah that will save it
😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOO.... then 5.0 then 6.0 then 7.0 LMAOOOOOOO
@@tricktap8502 nah 6.0 :D
Atleast there happy about proper game design thats what they call it
They dont respect your time. You pay to test an unpableyable alpha. A lot of ships, but not much to do with them. What tired me was that they wipe whenever they feel liked to. Maybe i will try 4.0 for a couple of hours.
I always like seeing what you have behind you. I have an Aussie L1A1 and an FMP G3 that I have built up from parts kits (Coonan rcvr on FAL and bent an RTG flat for the G3). You always have something interesting, can't tell if that's a 29 or 686 or snake gun over your right shoulder.
On topic though, been following you for a while and just totally discouraged with what CIG has been doing. I have the same complaints as everyone else does. I haven't played in over a year now, and the whole MM fiasco has me just hanging back and seeing what they do next.
My mom has the same ugly stained glass lamp 🤣
The people that would have played SC have played it.
Me, I'm playing it lol. It's not bad depending on the servers you use. Asian Servers are crazy good.
Where is the pre 2023 pop. chart?
So many other good games out there that are fun to play.
I mean i know i'm on the outside looking in, but for me i want to play but will only jump in when ever it's in a more fully released state...if that ever happens.
game crashes at loading for me. could play only 1 week or so. not that i enjoy the game, but still. it was the same crash for the past 6 months. unbelievable.
They shed 90% of their cost, the jpgs sell themselves.
CIG is still standing by selling gaming chairs, beanies and jpegs of possible future ships for hundreds of dollars.
It doesn't matter how many people play it.
What matters (to CIG for sure) is that they will hit 120 mln this year. And if they actually release Titan suit and couple other ships, maybe even 130 mln.
120m might be from 10 whales and not form 1000 players. You get that, right?
@@Cpt_Kakashi not from 10, maybe from 1000.
But that's the point - even if only those 1000 pay (even if they don't ever launch the game), it's enough for CIG.
@@SolarWindsRider if cig wants empty servers, sure!
Ive played SC for a long time 2012 but Im bored every time I log in an the only fun I have is arena commander dogfights. I dread having to to take a train to just to 30k really feels like a job not a game.
Im waiting for 4.0, cargo gameplay isn't my thing.
Great video! You hit a nerve and the Star Cultists loose it.
I wouldnt call this game a simulation anymore
helldivers 2 would be fully dead with your logic but oh.. its magically going back from 20k to 100k
weird huh
Nerfing the Corsair was enough for me
What a grifter lmao
As a hardcore space nerd it's weird to say but..
I hope they go bankrupt and get drowned in lawsuits, never have i seen such disgusting ways to generate money in a game or any other practice for that matter.
10 years and 600+ million bucks for a game that's not even worth the title "Alpha state"
I'm hoping for a class action , I'll be on that train ! I did not back a mmo arcade console game which this has become .
Look at the state of gaming today.. AAA games releasing in a Alpha state.. (disgusting ways to generate money) but yet CIG isn't forcing anyone to pay up.. It's the individual choice on what they choose to spend their money on. Every MMO game or Online game has a low point.. I've even took breaks from the game to focus on others. But hey, that's opinion. I just don't agree with it.
they don t care ... no month subscriber ( almost ), if you do a bad product you need less server to maintain = more money in your pocket, specialy test is almost done for evocati now ...
in same time the game got a critical bug in the game play loop every 5 min ... impossible to enjoy or play
I dont think the problem is MM. SC is not a game and CIG is not a reliable company.
bye bye SC!!
Interesting, every other game on the list have the exact same decline.
This guy claims to hate SC, as well as include false stats and claims, yet still wants his referral bonus
You RUclipsrs, well not really you considering how small your channel is, make me laugh. Hate on the game publically for clicks, play it in private.
Yeah it's boring and we have nothing to do in game. I really just want to have big space battles with our big ships.
We know the Polaris is ready and done, we just gotta wait for some reason
We know the Idris is done and flyable, I personally flied one for 24 hours, THEY JUST WONT give it to us.
Why is It so hard to release us the ships and let us just battle.
Also make ERT missions make sense...
Make it a javelin, make it a bengal, make it a challenge...
it sucks playing this sh_t when I know I am getting blueballed.
i tried to play. its so buggy i couldnt even do like 2 hualing missions before it broke. spent 2 hrs playing to wind up worse off than i started and just feeling pissed off
GIG is an NFT scam! It's so 2021.
Dont play other games! I just saw a thumbnail of a SC leak channel and the Vanduul are comming.. with a banu merchantman.. and a pet sandworm.. in just 2 years! Just.. let them cook! dont be toxic! 😂
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R.I.P
HAHAHAHA They all dropped like that because..... SUMMER FFS. Did you not look at the others? Almost idential drop offs. People are touching grass bro. Can you pull up like a 5 year trend? That would be interresting. So currently SC is 56k players per day this month whereas Elder Scrolls Online 20k, New World 8k, Lost Ark 51k, Elite Dangerous 23k, Eve online 35k and Destiny 2 41k. I guess all of those suck too? Why is nomans sky not there? Wierd.
You're comparing games that have been completed for years if not decades in one case to a game that is nowhere near complete. These game already had their time in the sun and have their settled out hardcore players. The support teams for these games are a fraction of what SC uses, so their overhead costs are minimal in comparison. CIG requires a LOT of money to support their headcount and SC is their only source for income at the moment.
Yup, normal seasonal gaming trend across all games for the most part.
Sure bro, everything is fine.
Thats why they are desperate for money like a whore that needs to pay its pimp😅
May 2023 412.5 thousand players, May 2024 76.2 thousand...
Same time last year is the comparison. They lost most players and that is 100% fact! Just keep on waiting for a better next year for the coming 12+ years.
This guy literally has no idea what he is on about, really. Get a grip.
I’m no CIG apologiser but so do many of the other games on your list. Hitting a major slump in 2024-04. Wow, RuneScape, warframe. Maybe do more research before making a video. Makes it less personal.
Is a consistent 40-70k player base a failure?
No, it isnt.
The game is ass though.
I dont think you know what dead game means.
SaltEmike and his in denial fans are playing, grumpy eye .. you for two seconds😂 that's it.
its always like this over the summer months and popular around the end of the year because of citizencon and ship sales.
Records of pledge but game is dead 🤡🎉🎉🎉🎉
Growth is down. If CIG budgeted for a 10% increase in sales, but only got a 3% increase, that is a major problem.
they want to focus on new players and no new players are coming.
The current result is crazy given that fact. $imps make it real, hope for them it was worth the price.
@@Roboticus_Prime_RC we don't know that.
@@urbabyboss budget projecections are standard business practices. And we do have numbers for sales, and if they are new or old backers.
@@Roboticus_Prime_RC and how would you know if they are satisfied or not with the growth we do have !? Yes indeed it's the best year we ever had !
bro, servers are still full of players , activity is as usual to me , no idea if that website is accurate or even captures populations correctly , what I see ingame is much different, servers full of players, spectrum forums' activity is as usual, no changes in the last few years
I was on a 6 man server last night, 26 man tonight, thr hundreds of players in my two orgs are not playing, all i see is new players during peek hours, its not as busy as it was buy far, but maybe that is just me and the orgs that have been here 8yrs, im sure its fine really, 👍
@@ashj8998 well my org is not as active as before either, pretty much dead, rarely somebody playing, difficult to play together when it's so difficult to get to the same server tho
also I just logged in to check a server , 22 players but consider it's just 9am here in Europe, there are usually many more players in the afternoon and evening
People dont understand that data does not give a fuck about you liking master modes space sailing. CIG needs to act asap and set their pride aside to save the game. Get rid of that slow and boring "flight" more like sail model!