Starship Troopers (1997) First Time Watching! Movie Reaction!!
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Verhoeven loads his films with satire, commentary, and where applicable savage violence. He has a real recognizable style. Other films by him similar to this are Total Recall and Robocop.
Yeah he has managed to film his dreams and nightmares.
The idiot also didnt read the book beforee making the movie cuz he found it "boring" and mistook the Terran federation for a fascistic, warmongering nation-state when its actually the exact opposite.
I still like the movie , most of it is not really affected by Verhoevens pathetic work-ethic or personal political biases.
But as a director, he seriously fakked up on this one.
He also said that this was about fascism ... and completely fails to understand what fascism really is (which the society in Starship Troopers ISNT). He never even read the book and just went with "this is what other people have said it's about". The guy writing the script didnt read the book either, all they got was a plot synopsis to roughly follow the story.
@@Muck006 It's not a direct adaptation of the book; he's presenting his own opinions on society, warfare and fascism. The movie is pretty much the opposite of the book in terms of ideology, and that's not by mistake. If you thought the book was great, the movie is not for you lol
@@vanyadolly the point stands: he thought he's making a "satire" of fascism and ended up making a capitalist meritocracy
As a little dude raised on Aliens, Robocop, Predator, Terminator, and loving them, then having Starship troopers come out and it being just as epic was unforgettable. Few years later the game Halo came out and brought some of those elements together perfectly and was like a dream come true. insane fun times : D
I grew up the exact same way but it was not HALO that mirrored this movie. It was a game called, *"Earth Defense Force."* It was just as campy, had literally over 200 bugs on screen at a time and if you were not a good enough tactician the bugs would kill all the NPCs in your squad mere seconds after each level starts. It mirrored "Starship Troopers" exactly.
Casper van dien looks like he’s the perfect perfect actor to play young Leon Kennedy in resident evil! Put him on re2 movie! Or Re4! But since this is 1997 he must be pretty old by now, but I don’t know who else could be a perfect Leon Kennedy!
@@blacklegjones2567 thats woulda been sick, a re2 movie with him back in the day... oh man : D
The musical score take this awesome movie over the top. Basil Poledouris is the composer, he also did Conan the Barbarian and Robocop.
Great movie, cheese and all, seriousness and satire combined. We saw this at the theater when it came out and was a lot of fun on the big screen. The graphics still hold up pretty good to this day.
Absolutely brilliant movie! I have never read the book, but this movie certainly gets the message across!
In the Federation you are not born a citizen but if you want to become a citizen you must perform federal service its usually back breaking or unpleasant work for a couple years but it will always have some form of personal risk to it. The federation MUST find something for someone to do they may try to dissuade an individual but they cant turn them down.
The idea behind this is one must have some stake in society and show they are willing to suffer for the betterment of society before they have a say in how its run.
Non citizens are not mistreated either they have all rights but the right to vote or hold public office.
It is essentially a harsh but fair meritocracy based republic.
In the book, basically the ONLY benefit to becoming a citizen was that you could vote, but as long as you remained in the service you could not vote, so if you went career, you would not get to vote until you retired. I do not remember if you had to be a citizen to hold office, but it would seem logical. If you notice, most people never became citizens, and most could care less. Most wealthy people were not from what I remember. The entire system was designed to prevent the wealthy from becoming politically powerful. Service did not have to be military either. The author stated that police, and firefighting were considered federal service. If you were not medically capable of that type of thing, then you could volunteer to be a guinea pig. Basically anything that proved that you were willing to put your life on the line for the good of the country. And, no, there were no restrictions on quitting, except during active combat, all you had to do was declare that you were quitting, and that was it.
"That vagina bug just Capri Sunned that man!"- Emily, Just SUMM Reactions
It's so satisfying to see those headphones resting properly on your head. You have no idea how that just irks me when I see them on all crooked.
It's the look of "I'm with this guy now, but just gimme a minute and that'll change; so don't go too far."
In the book, the ground troops had power armor... they weren't just down there in fatigues and some utility belts. Budgetary limits of the era in which this as made determined them abandoning the 'power armor' aesthetic.
Interesting that you said it reminds you of Aliens because a lot of what made Aliens a good movie is based on the book Starship Troopers which really has little to do with the movie directly. It borrows a lot from the book while not directly pulling scenes from the book.
So excited you watched this. Love this movie
Also don't pull it out if it's puncturing your eyeball.
8 years old when my pops took me to see this. I don't think it was very long before he felt regret, lol.
"Definitely go with this girl" Yikes, lol.
i'm glad you wandered into the word "campy". i think a more common term that has a strong overlap here is "cheesy". "camp" is often used to refer to things that are unintentionally cheesy for various reasons, especially "B" movies where lack of budget or talent makes it hard to avoid. it's also often used for certain genres that might be uncomfortable for the mainstream like John Waters films or other sub/counter-culture works, which might be considered "cult classics" almost immediately based on how excited the fan base is. but even things like Star Wars have a camp or cheese to them, and certainly before it was released some people ridiculed it as a "space opera", pure fantasy, childish, etc. you seemed to enjoy this a lot, have you seen The Running Man!? it pops into my head as a similar style flavor. plus: AHNOLD
I would say 'cheesy' is unintentional whereas 'camp' is a deliberate choice 🤔
@@eddhardy1054 i think that is a good distinction. somewhat complex to contrast, like 'camp' might be more about style or intention, and 'cheese' more about implementation or reception. also, perhaps usually writers are campy, actors are cheesy, and directors could be either?
Around 17:06 he said navs as in navigation points.
This is one of my favorite movies too.
*[In The Book]*, one of the main features of the Mobile Infantry was power armor, which made a single human far more powerful, and capable of taking on Bugs. These got left out in this movie, probably because they would have cost too much, and as a result, the humans fight like idiots - throwing waves of unsupported infantry into a meat grinder. If you want to see a much cooler version of this very same world, there is a CGI TV series called "Roughnecks: The Starship Troopers Chronicles" (1999-2000), which was made by the same animators and production team as the film. The CGI was pretty good (for the time period), and the story was great, and is in nearly all ways much tuer to the original book - particularly because they actually use the power armor. This lets them do orbital drops, and operate in vacuum or hazardous atmospheres, and is very cool. Without the armor, they're NOT actually "Starship Troopers". Plus, the TV show includes the Skinnies, another alien race. Watch it, you'll like it!
Verhoeven was an all time great how he managed to get bank rolled by big studios is kind of amazing.
It's definitely campy, but there's good camp and bad camp. Movies like this and Black Dynamite know what they are and they lean into it *just enough*. It's self-aware, even if the characters aren't.
28:10 "hitting them in one spot" is TRIVIAL ... IN A LAB ... but when THOUSANDS are advancing on you targeting becomes a bit difficult.
Also: this is something the movie invented ... to show Karl again (nobody would become "top researcher" after three weeks of service, especially not if it was "military intelligence".
tl;dr *Read the book / listen to the audiobook!*
This movie is a perfect blend of satire and serious political commentary. The society it portrays is also kind of a blend between American and NAZI German ideology. There's definitely a lot of NAZI symbolism from the uniforms to the way they conduct themselves, but I feel they pull back from that just enough to still be extremely relatable to the viewer.
The bugs aren't humanized. The 'other' is an actual other.
Not much Nazi besides the uniforms.
War, bug aliens, hive mind… Checkout the movie “Ender’s Game”
Avoid the movie, read the book.
This sound track still gives me chills
As good as the movie is, it doesnt do the book any justice at all. The creator of this movie didnt even read it. Its a book from the 1960s by Robert Heinlein that had incredible foresight. It acurately preducted a ton of tech and political consequences.
Its only 8 or so hours in audiobook form and can easily be found for free on RUclips. Anyone who likes this movie owes it to themselves to read the book.
love this movie
I think that what Heinlein and Verhoeven had in mind for this movie and what they were trying to say were completely different. In fact I think that there was a great disservice done to Robert Heinlein's work. On a side note, both men and boys have done stupid things either for or because of a woman or girl. It is so common that it must be built into our biology.
love this movie!! has he ever seen Big Trouble In Little China?!
The movie kept the names of the characters and the bugs but threw most of the plot of the book away and made its own plot up. in the book, the character of Dizzy was male. Most of the book followed Rico as he went through basic training and then later Officer Training School. The whole psychic story line was made up for the movie.
The insects on the planet would be just as sadistic , if they were that big too.
Welcome to "the Troopers". :)
“Who wants to live forever” wasn’t that Frederick the Great?
Was that on Earth or Mercury? (Sorry, had to throw a hidden pun in there lol)
There are at least 2 more movies I believe
Well it 2 more actors movie and animated Shows also full all animated full movie
This movie was deemed a bomb and a failure by the media when it debuted--primarily because it went wayyyy over budget during production and a lot of viewers/reviewers just didn't get it.
"Lick my navs" as in do better at calculating navigation coordinates...
The score is by Basil Poledoures, who also scored Robocop, Red October, and Quigley Down Under. Excellent composer.
Starship Troopers 2 and 3 are pretty bad, but have a few good moments. The CG movies are decent. The CG TV series "Roughnecks: The Starship Troopers Chronicles" is VERY worth watching, but be advised it is more an alternate telling of the story, rather than a prequel or sequel story. I highly recommend it.
Definitely need to see total recall then...it's directed by the same guy
VERY UNDERRATED MOVIE!! Love...was one of my favs as a kid...cgi awesome for bak in the day...the rest were terrible...but this is a classic
In the book the guy that signed them up with no legs was plainly visible BEFORE they signed up. He was there to discourage people that were not SURE they wanted to join. Later in the day, Rico sees him walking down the sidewalk and asks him about it. He was chosen specifically because of his lack of legs to act as a 'filter'. They had almost perfect prosthetics, but he did not use them for that job.
The book is very interesting and I would suggesting picking up a copy and reading it. It is a quick read and feels very different than the movie.
also - in the book they mention that the only way you could be stopped from attempting to complete a term of service was if a doctor certified you were physically incapable of understanding the oath. Even if you showed up in a wheelchair and wanted to enlist, they'd find you something to do. The catch was that everyone gets only one chance, and if you quit (which you can do at any time), you can't try again.
Heinlein was an amazing writer.
While the movie uses some of the same events as the book, the movie uses the to make a very different point. The movie doesn't dive into the theory of the society because it is a satire of modern capitalistic war. The viewer already has a reference to wounded veterans. Verhoeven simply contrasts this with the beautiful recruits going in, which is a different goal than the book reinforcing that something given has no value and the need to make potential citizens earn the power to vote.
In the film, he was there to inform the audience that military service creates broken people (hence the missing limbs on the Teacher as well as other older veterans). Military Service has done nothing positive in these people's lives: only made them loyal to a fascist world government.
I would also comment on how the Mobile Infantry in the book used Mechanized Suits, (which you finally see in the third movie), as human legs do not tend toward a 'Mobile' Infantry. The book is a very quick read, although there are some sexist tendencies, as the MI are all male, while the Navy are all female, as the females are better at the complex math needed to fly the ships, while the men are better at just fighting and dying. Also, a single squad tended to cap out around a dozen soldiers, and their drop pod technology was also well thought out. I think that my favorite idea from the book, besides the Mechanized Suits, were the Talking Bombs. Imagine a bomb, dropped into a populated center, speaking in the population's language, saying, "I am a bomb, I will explode in 1 minute. I am a bomb, I will explode in 55 seconds...." It did the job of causing panic, which is far more important than killing civilians. (It was used against another 'enemy', not the bugs, in the book.
This is a piece of art so underrated. Don´t pretend to be nothing... but meant a lot!!! And in 1997.
Who under-rates it?
@@orangewarm1 It wasnt an economic success, because the advertisement and movie reviews were bad / wrong and thus disappointed the people who went to watch it. That's why it is "underrated" ... because of the jackasses back then.
Veerhoeven also said it is a fascist society - hence the style of the uniforms - which it really isnt.
@Domingo Curbelo Morales "This is a piece of art so underrated." - Is "art" supposed to be JUST IRREDEEMABLY STUPID?!
This is the 1st movie I remember ever seeing in a movie theaters when I was 4. I'll never forget my Dad trying to cover my eyes when the shower scene happened 😂
The movie is a classic but the book is amazing. It was written in the 1950’s and the author predicted heads up displays, powered armor suits and a bunch of stuff we take for granted in sci fi today amongst other things. There’s also a second alien race in the book and Rico flamethrowers a bunch of the alien children. It’s wild. Also the book is required reading for the officer school in the Marines. It goes more into the politics and military structure as the author was in the Navy if I remember correctly.
Robert Heinlein wrote it. One of the Giants of early Sci fi.
Neat.
I think Verhoeven covered the politics part very good
I honestly found a lot of the book excruciatingly boring. Nothing even happens until the last 10 pages, and even then it’s only about a page and a half before he blacks out 😭
To be fair, the movie is kind of a satirization of the kind of society depicted in the book more than it is a faithful adaptation. The intent was to make the kind of propaganda film that'd be put out in such a society, down to mimicking elements of WWII German films.
It really went over a lot of people's heads. I remember at the time most of my friends were complaining about how it was nothing like the book. And missed that the main premise is a critique of this slightly democratic totalitarian society that fetishizes the military while playing the victim in a war they started themselves. Service guarantees citizenship and voting rights because service guarantees indoctrination.
And it's such a downer for the main characters, too.
And because Verhoeven's not a hack, you can miss all that and still enjoy the movie because it's still a great action flick. Just like Robocop and Total Recall, it's a good movie on the surface level and then there are depths to explore if you want.
I saw this movie when it came out at the theater. I saw is as an instant classic. At the time, it didn't do as well as it should have, but over time, it's become recognized for how great it was
There are two made for video live action sequels, a series of animated stories (Roughnecks) and then a couple more animated films. The movies are not as good, as to be expected for made-for-video sequels. The Roughneck series I have not watched, but I remember, at the time, it was well received. And of the two animated films, the second was considered the best, but all of them are still not going to be as good as the original.
My dad took me to see this movie when I was in fourth grade and it scarred me, rofl. He decided since I had already seen Alien and Conspiracy Theory, I was ready for rated R movies. I was not.
@@hornorsilk2901 I've seen some of the other animated movies. _Traitor of Mars_ is probably the best since the first Starship Troopers.
@@Timeisaflat_O Hey, no way, Conspiracy Theory was the first R-rated movie my parents ever let me see in the theater!
This was a childhood fave to watch w my older bros. When I watch now I’m like, can’t believe they tried to pass these guys as HS students. But still a classic to me
Same here, I miss those days. 😭
"Starship Troopers" is absolutely my favorite comfort movie... It's campy, gross, and a fantastic satire of fascism.... I love the propaganda scenes... absolutely brilliant... Other great Paul Verhoeven films are: "Basic Instinct", "Total Recall", and "Hollow Man".... and then there's "Showgirls", but that's definitely a whole other thing.. lol
It’s a terrible satire of fascism because there aren’t any fascists in the movie. The only fascist thing in the movie are the uniforms.
The film version of Starship Troopers is essentially the Dr Strangelove for our generation. The circle will complete some years into the future when this is looked on as a sort of documentary- right now we say 'it couldn't happen here'... oh, but it has, and it can again.
I don't find that comparison too valid.
There was no Russian attack; there was a bug attack.
Ripper forced US soldiers to kill US soldiers; the bugs are never humanized.
Ripper acted on a belief of a conspiracy theory he had no proof of; Troopers shows us the enemy is real.
Ripper killed himself to escape responsibility; the Sky Marshall publicly resigned and accepted responsibility.
World ended in nuclear annihilation; world still a utopia.
Etc.
Citizens can vote. Citizens can get a birth license easier. Those are the drawbacks.
No poverty, no sexism, no racism, no resource scarcity, no protests, no dictator, etc.
Unedited frontline war reporting, military leaders being publicly held accountable, volunteer military, wealthy civilians owning property and businesses, etc.
The bugs are never humanized.
Strangelove and Robocop are top notch satires. Starship Troopers is an extremely weak satire.
@@yodieyuh i think there's subtlety to the satire in Starship Troopers, while it was pretty blunt in Robocop and even more so in Strangelove. I do agree with you about it and Strangelove not being the same kind of film.
The presentation of ST intentionally gives a very sanitized view of Federation society, with just mild matter-of-fact mentions of the differences that, when stacked together, paint a picture of a two-classed society where your opinions and human rights just don't matter as much if you haven't given a chunk of your prime years to the state. The veterans couped the democracy and made everything better for everyone - that's what's taught in the schools run by, well, veterans. "Something given has no value" is one of those statements that you might find yourself nodding along with till you realize the context is a denial of self-determination to non-citizens. You were given life, therefore you're worthless till you earn your worth.
@@nerodia
I agree it demonstrates a two class society, but I fail to see how the lower class suffers. Making voting an earned privilege is more authoritarian than everyone can vote, sure. But the film doesn't make that bad.
Can't vote, but we aren't shown legislation they didn't vote for that makes their lives worse than a Citizen besides a single mention that both classes have to obtain birthing licenses and it's some degree easier if you served.
On all other levels they seem equal. The civilians we hear the most from, Rico's parents, are wealthy property and business owners who can leave the planet. They tell us their opinion of Citizenship is that it's not worth much. They're almost appalled that he even considers citizenship.
I love the film, but it really seems to be about killing space bugs that kill us.
We might be the instigators, by giving so much religious freedom we let Mormons settle planets.
@@yodieyuh indeed. That's the flaw of using source material bot understood by the director to make a satire that doesn't quite add up.
@@yodieyuh to fail to see... huh? There's nothing to see. Only the reproduction license demonstrates lack of freedom. And that's fabricated, as it's a deviation from the source material.
The “campy” parts are to highlight the commentary, politics & marketing of War.
Totally agree, a very good film. Would be good to see sequels where they come across & battle with different worlds in each sequel, learning about the native species & how to overcome them
Most planers have been explored or habitded already. There's only 3 sentient alien species in this universe and wè only see 2 here
The man taking the paperwork with no legs... he is there on purpose. Specifically to discourage those who aren't up for this. In the book it's explained more that no one can be denied thier right to do federal service and earn citizenship. So they actually discourage people from joining, as Rico mentioned, because they are required to find a job for you if you join.
The book is pretty good and fairly short, and a lot different than the movie but both are enjoyable.
A famous speculative science fiction novel by Robert Heinlein way pre-Star Trek. 1956 I think. The point is social commentary about militarism, advertising etc. by a graduate of USA naval academy of Annapolis.
I've been trolled for mentioning Stranger in a Strange Land. People don't understand how progressive he was for the time.
@Ubotit Unaymit Heinlein explored a lot of different ideas in his books. Stranger is definitely one of his more interesting experiments, and a fascinating read, if you can grok it.
@@stevensauer8539 👍🏼😉
It's not a commentary about militarism at all.
Pay attention. At every turn, society is trying to dissuade Rico from joining the military. Even the guy at the front desk with no legs and only one arm is there to scare people away.
The book this movie is based on is actually a commentary on communism vs a hyper libertarian and meritocratic society.
The bugs are the perfect communists. Each big has no value, no individuality. Only the brain bugs have emotion or value. Every other bug works for the common goal of the hive, even at the expense of their own lives.
@@KurNorock pay attention yourself. I studied it in college and your opinion is not what was presented.
I love how much you dig this movie. It was one of my late father’s favorite films. It’s so fun.
Rest in Peace to your Father.
You mention Stargate, you get a like. Always love the SG references.
Great alternate reality film where the *insert facist/militarized group* has taken over human society
One of my 25 favorite films of all time, so ahead of it's time showing things most never want to discuss, works on so many levels, dystopian, a warning, cheesy 50's style science fiction creature feature.... so many layers to this gem. @MrLBoyd hopefully after it you see how amazing this was and so spot on in it's warning.
The weird thing is the director completely botched everything from both an book adaption point of view and presenting his own narrative, and it still works. Which is just incredible.
In the book's Himeline points out that the guy who does the recruiting for Johnny actually puts on his Prosthetics after he leaves his job. He says the freak Show is meant to scare away cowards and people unfit for service
This is based on "Starship Troopers" by Robert A Heinlein. The bugs were shooting Plasma bursts at the ships.
This is my all time favorite movie. I don’t blame you for wanting to watch it again. I’ve seen it an embarrassingly amount of times 😂 and I don’t feel bad about it 😂
One of the main benefits as it was mentioned in the showers scene is that as citizen is easier to get a licence to procreate .As for the scoring of course it is excellent given Verhoeven's favorite composer scored the movie, Basil Poledouris you may recall from Conan or Robocop.
Klandathu Drop is F*CKIN INCREDIBLE
yeah, a lot of the normal rights people nowadays have like Voting is only given to citizens in the starship troopers world
Brought to you by the makers of "Total Recall" and "Robocop", which are also campy, brutal and very good.
“Dude, you’re in a bug hole.” is one of those sentences you always want to come with context.
Edit: The cartoon movie isn’t bad. You definitely need to read the book by Robert A Heinlein. It’s a sci-fi classic.
The cartoon series was also really good. which wild to think of , there was a kids show from this 😆
"The mobile Infantery made me the man I a am today." Your comments are exactly the point why he is there. Only those who are willing to sacrifice themself for the greater good should join and earn the right to vote.
A Farscape AND a Stargate reference in one reaction! It's good because it's purposely campy for commentary sake. There are more, not as good but definitely deserves a watch.
the word you where looking for is Satire
There are a few more movies AND an animated mini series "Roughnecks: Starship Troopers Chronicles" which is much closer to the book (I have them on DVD's).
This movie always reminded me a little of Farscape too... It's a shame not many seem to have seen it. Great reaction, thankyou 😊
Glad you loved the film, I've loved it for the past 20 years, it never gets stale just the way it is - read the book a few years back and it has a high place of honor in my science fiction and military philosophy collection
Great satire, great sfx for the time, great action, original story, great bugs...all good really :)
It's amazing how closely real life imitated this movie just a few years after its release.
Yes, we were attacked by bugs, they destroyed Buenos Aires, while we all live in a united federation that spans multiple solar systems, and the right to vote is only awarded to those that serve the common good.
Just like the movie
This is based on the book “Starship Troopers” which was written by Robert A Heinlein (1907-1988) and was originally published in 1959. It is political and military satire. Heinlein was one of our greatest science fiction authors. You should check out his books.
The movie is satire. You have clearly NOT read the book, if you're calling the book satire.
The book is great! And the book is pretty serious, not satire. It’s also required reading for Officer training in the Marines.
The most the movie takes from the book are names. It is as accurate to RAH's original as an AK-47 doing a mag dump.
@@BigGator5 I meant the movie was satire. Sorry I didn’t explain my self thoroughly. My intention was to encourage his interest in checking out RAH’s books.
Lyla Koehlmoos ...I figured, but I wanted to say that just in case someone else misinterpreted what you said. I was using the royal "you" there.
This has been a favorite movie of mine since it came out. It sucks that absolutely none of the sequels were good (in my opinion).
What did you just watch? 129 minutes of pure brilliance... that's what.
The Drill Sergeant in their training is the voice actor for Mr. Krabs and now every movie I see him in I hear that voice. "The enemy cannot push a button, if you disable his tentacle Mr. Squidward! Akakak"
For the love of everything holy, don't ever watch the sequels. This is not a "..the matrix sequel were so bad...". This is more like "Oh my god, did they even have a budget to make this or was this done in a garage?".
Also, they ignore the satire
You really, really need to read the book. It's a totally different thing entirely. The author was writing a polemic where he was exploring what it would take to have a government and culture that was both logical and moral, from his point of view.
The book really pissed off the left when it was written. It was deemed too pro-military. The director purposely tried to make a movie that mocked the book and what the author. He tried to make a movie that portrayed the government and culture as fascistic; both evil and comically stupid. Despite his effort, the movie became a kind of cult classic. Regardless, the movie ended up having almost no connection to the source material.
Still, I think you would enjoy the book. Give it a read.
This director's films were all very graphic.
Most notable ones are. Basic Instinct, Robocop, Total Recall and Hollowman.
This is one of my all time favorite sci-fi movies, and my least favorite screen adaptations of a novel. Robert A. Heinlein wrote a brilliant book, but this movie is so loosely based on it, it needed a different title, in my opinion. Instead of credits stating it was based upon the novel, it should have said it was loosely based upon some of the characters and situations found in the novel. Just my opinion. The movie is also brilliant and ticks all the boxes for a very re-watch able film, and I love it, just not as a faithful adaptation of a beloved favorite book. Check out the author, he was a colorful character who wrote material that predicted and precipitated cultural change.
Verhoevens critique of nationalism, fascism, and the sci-fi genre seems to go unnoticed by some people.
I don't think you actually understand........ critique of anything and everything "is" Sci-Fi. That's the point. Only in Science Fiction does Robert Heinlein get an opportunity to show a human civilization that doesn't give a rat's behind about race and treats every human exactly the same....judging them based on performance and merit (written in the 1950s) against an enemy that has races of bugs and castes of bugs and bugs who are subservient to other bugs based on what kind of bug they are.
Loved this movie. Only watched it to see Michael Ironside, most underrated character actor in decades!!
They sucked his brains out! ❤ ironic considering what he did as Daryl Revok ;)
One of my personal favorites. It's a solid Scifi B movie all-around, but then there's the added layer of the social commentary on top. From what I understand, it was filmed entirely under the idea that this was supposed to look like a pro-war propaganda film from the future.
In the book, the way he enlists is hilarious. He and Carmen weren't together, and while flirting with her and mustering up the courage to ask her out, he basically accidentally enlisted.
The book is incredible as well. Very different from the movie. I wish they would film a version closer to the book.
There was an anime done base on the book, back in the '80s. Think it is still up on RUclips. Much closer to the book than this movie.
In the book, a lot of time is spent in OCS. He actually trained and earned his commission. His mother was killed while on a business trip, and his father enlisted, too. At the end, he was a Captain, Company Commander, and his father was his First Sergeant.
Spoiler alert...sort of. I know the books ending, but every time I read the book, 7-10 times+-, and we realize his father made it, i still get tears
Well... that's a book I don't need to read now.
@Passenthru Alaska if you're worried about spoilers, then maybe shouldn't have watched the movie, lol. There was A LOT I left off
@@TheKyfe People watch and read both all the time, seldom at the exact same time. Either they really love the story, or they want to see how they compare. You may feel covered by one, but...well, hey free speech does include giving away the end of the other if you want.
@@passenthrualaska3293 the story is, what? 50 years old? 60? There's a statute of limitations on protecting spoilers, lol, especially for one's with multiple famous mediums.
It is a very good movie, but I have to admit the first time I saw this film it really pissed me off. The book is so good and very different then the film (Hugo Award 1960). The book was really good science fiction by the great Robert Heinlein. The movie is a turn off your brain campy popcorn flick. Unlike the book, this is terrible science fiction, but it is a lot of fun.
shouldn't have turned off your brain so early because you missed some great and rather funny satire.....
@@stefanforrer2573 fair point. Book is still better 😜
Yes two more. They are just okay.
The animated episodes are fairly good.
Yes, two ok movie. If you wanna know more about federation, chech out third movie next. Second movie is just a fun monster movie (poor mans Aliens 🤔 ), not many fans of this movie like it because it is totaly different genre than this one.
I remember when this came out. I was 15 and a guy on my swim team and I were talking about it. Of course, only a few scenes in this movie were important to us. It was rated 14A here in Canada, so of course, every teen guy had seen it. No joke, that's what we had to do back then if we wanted to see certain things that straight guys of that age are interested in. We couldn't just go online and we definitely didn't care if the movie had "social commentary." Very few of the kids I knew in '97 had the internet in their rooms, let alone their homes and if we saw anything online, we had to download it and end up with a lot of viruses. Not saying I know from experience. That poor, poor Pentium 3 450.
The quote stuck with me ever since the first time I saw this movie "Figuring things out for yourself is the only freedom anyone really has. Use that freedom. Make up your own mind."
It is such a life lesson to live by.
Also, while it IS a bit of nepotism to assign one of your mates as a squad leader, you need someone you work extremely well together with when choosing a SL. You need complete faith in that persons ability and will. Choosing a SL that you are already good friends with minimizes communication and increases overall effectiveness
That is, of course, assuming the chosen SL actually has the capabilities required to BE an effective Squad Leader.
The book that the movie is based on was by Robert Heinlein. It's definitely worth a read!
1976. Avalon Hill game company released Starship Troopers. matches the book.
1:20 "The federation" is basically "the government" (for all humans) ... and anything else doesnt really matter. The main thing is that you NEED TO EARN THE RIGHT TO VOTE (and to become politicians). "Civilians" have exactly the same rights ... except voting.
6:30 I'd advise you to read the book (or listen to the audiobook ... the best one is 8hrs 36mins 04secs ... posting channel names deletes comments), it's not a love story.
10:20 Veerhoeven THINKS the society Heinlein described was fascist (hence the uniform style) and the "do you want to know more?" is his way of describing PROPAGANDA.
I remember watching this movie when I worked at Century Theatres, Then about a week after playing the game *"Earth Defense Force."* It was just as campy, had literally *over 200 bugs* on screen at a time and if you were not a good enough tactician the bugs would kill all the NPCs in your squad mere seconds after each level starts. It mirrored *"Starship Troopers"* exactly. And if you fought as good as Johnny Rico did your squad would shout random phrases along with "EDF, EDF, EDF!!!" Good times. ^_^
A lot of ppl call this one of the worst movies ever. I have loved this movie ever since I first saw it back when I was still in high school. I love that you loved this movie MrLboyd. Every time I think I got a handle on your personality you surprise me... again. Loved this reaction. WHERE IS MY PROF DONO REACTION SIR?
If you like the kind of satire Verhoeven dishes out you'd probably enjoy Robocop and Total Recall. I could see them as being part of the same universe starting with Robocop, continuing with Total Recall and culminating with Starship Troopers. Each movie takes you further into the future by leaps and bounds. Dealing with such subjects as Caste Systems, Corporate Autocracy, Colonialism, Propaganda and Fascism along the way.
Starship Troopers has 4 sequels all pretty anemic and the last 2 animated; Robocop has a couple of sequels, a TV series and a reboot; and Total Recall has a TV series and a reboot. I'd stick with the initial entry for each franchise.
This is loosely based on the Robert A Heinlein novel but treats satirically what Heinlein took seriously (i.e. his views on service and citizenship, et al)
As a fellow fan of quality Space Opera, I'm glad you enjoyed this and hope you check out his previous masterpieces. Luc Besson is another director with a unique eye for Space Opera. His films films are come in various genres (Comedy, Action, Drama Noir...) his Science Fiction films, tho (The Fifth Element, Lucy and Valerian and the City of a Thousand Planets) are unique and a delight to the discerning viewer.
Happy Viewing!
Paul Verhoven uses sex and violence to the extreme to highlight the absurdity of it in movies. It's a form of grotesque commentary on how action movies keep showing more and more violent imagery. His approach is to make it so massive it becomes a form of camp in a way. Another hallmark of his movies is advertising, news footage, and propaganda. He was born into Third Riech occupied Netherlands and grew up in the aftermath. He became fascinated how politicians and business leaders in power usurped more control and then used all forms of media to slowly change the beliefs of the entire population. And again like his other themes he puts the population in his movies into this same fascism type environment to highlight the contrast as well as show those elements that exist in our society and how close they could easily be skewed into something much worse without the characters seeing it.
The muppet who made the movie completely misunderstood the book this is based on.
He thought it was centered around a fascistic, warmongering nationstate.
Its basically the exact opposite.
Which is WHY the guy sitting out front is a decapitaded, rough looking grouch.
He is MEANT to be to deter people from signing up.
'They dont want people in the army that dont WANT to be there.
No one should sign up for prestige or some romantecized idea about being a military man.
Its rough, harsh and unforgiciving and you need to be well aware of that before signing up.
HOWEVER, if you decide to do so, no one can stop you, under the law.
The only way you can be disqualified for service is if youre mentally incapable of understnding the oath you take when sworn in.
I still like this movie quite a bit, its entertaining and it gets a fair amout of things right (considering its crakpot creator) but the large gaps in logic and weird out of place things is almost exclusively the producers biases.
He also admittedly *didnt read the book* cuz he thought it was boring.
Nothing could be more incorrect.
The book (same title, by Robert A Heinlein) is 100 times better than the movie.
And thats coming from someone who still like the movie... despite its falws.
This movie was made by a Dutch director following the Iraq war. This movie satirizes the American propaganda machine (and draws parallels to the pro-fascist films of Nazi Germany) in its response to the war. At the time, hardly anyone in America got the joke.
The movies and book show the protagonist (Rico) choosing military service but that isn't the only way that counts as Federal Service. It can be Military, First Responders, Sanitation Workers, Postal Delivery, etc.
It's never really explained in any of the movies, but in the book the Federal Government is required by law to find you a job if you wish to to apply for Federal Service. Doesn't matter if your blind, deaf, and in a wheelchair, they have to find you a job that you are capable of doing. This job will not be easy, and will make you want to quit, but if you persevere through it, at the end of your job term you will be given citizenship and be allowed to hold public office and vote.
You are also by law aloowed to bow out and quit at anytime, no questions asked, but you will not be able to apply for Federal Service again.
Its based on the novel be Robert A. Heinlein 1959. The book explains the universe much better. Its heavy on social and political commentary. There are 3 live action movies and 2 cgi animated movies as well as a cgi cartoon series from the 90's there all good. But i suggest reading the book first it influenced multiple books and movie/shows
Cool fact the captain of the main ship is actress who played the plastic surgeon nurse in SPACEBALLS
This movie is very rewarding even after multiple watches later. You will start to notice subtleties, even down to the casting, which are pitch-perfect. You will realize that all the Ken and Barbie doll young people are perfect fodder for the state -- beautiful, earnest, and dumb You will begin to suspect that the asteroid which took out Buenos Aires was either allowed to happen or was a false flag by the state (and remember, this was made in 1997, long before 9/11) to consolidate power for the fascist, militaristic Federation. I cannot imagine that this movie could get made today.
The bugs are ferocious and territorial but defensive. It is the humans encROACHing on bug worlds which is always the casus belli. The movie is a fever dream of jingoism and unrelenting genocidal human supremacy that only after it is over do you even consider that the humans are the baddies.
The 'lava' spraying bug wasn't so very far off from reality. Here on Earth the, thankfully very small, Bombardier beetle can spray a boiling, corrosive liquid from their rear end to deter predators. There is also an ant from Malaysia that can explode suicidally and aggressively in defense of its colony, proper name: Colobopsis saundersi. Life is weird.
The book by Heinlein was serious. The story is much more developed as is the technology.