Leaders' debate: 'Farage should be ashamed' on HIV - Leanne Wood
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- Опубликовано: 1 апр 2015
- The leaders' debate first clap went to Plaid Cymru's Leanne Wood, after she told Ukip leader Nigel Farage that he should be ashamed of himself.
Mr Farage had been talking about the treatment of immigrants with HIV on the NHS.
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Its the truth ffs stop being such bloody hypocrites ... they should of brought up the ex servicemen and women living on the streets but that too would be too truthful for people to handle...foreign aid should be stopped and spent on these unfortunate souls instead of bloody sending it to India..start looking after the british.
Julie W
If you knew your own history you would know many "foreigners" fought for Britian in both world wars. Also it was only about 10 years ago we finished paying back America for the money we borrowed to have them wars
cheeckybutnice Yes,and without the Yanks' help we in the UK would all be speaking German now.Roosevelt bent over backwards to help us defeat the Germans even before the US came into the war.Now the Germans are doing what they couldn't achieve in 2 world wars.The takeover of Europe.This time economically.Shame only UKIP sees it.
Julie W
If you have a problem with people mixing. LEAD BY EXAMPLE! Get all white/brits out of Australia , Spain , America , south Africa etc etc.
Do that then people will take you serious.
If your not prepared to do that, Shut the fuck up
Julie W
YAWN YAWN YAWN!
Where did I mention racism?
I never said the EU does or doesnt have problems , I never said I liked or disliked it.
I was only talking about your comment about
people mixing.
If the deal to leave the EU mean Britian had to take back every single person from around the world that has British Identidy people like you would still not agree.
Julie W
I put whites/Brits not WHITES & i said that because you said you have a problem with people mixing. Im not the 1 with the problem YOU ARE.
For the 2nd time , i'll ask again.
If the deal was to leave the EU but all Brits or anyone with british DNA had to leave whatever country they were in to satisfy your dislike the EU & your love for identity would you agree to it.
namby pamby moralizing bs, typical liberal holier-than-thou non-response
Guess Leanne wants to rename it to the International Health Service.
Leanne was the realest person on that stage
Don't vote Plaid Cymru VOTE FARAGE VOTE UKIP!!!!
Hmmm I love that woman's accent, it sounds like a cat's purr.
charlotteq1 Such a joy to see that she can speak a language other than English. Wrth gwrs, allwch chi ddim deall sut i siarad unrhyw iaith ond yr un hyll. Fel Cymro, rwy'n teimlo pleser i gweld sut mae phobl yn delio a ni, dim pwynt i ei dadleuon, dim ond sarhau cachlud.
well just let the hole world come to uk and get treatment for illness for free its ok we are not in debt come on any one if we go to other countrys we need insurance for health care y do we pay when these people do not
Allan White get a life is that your passport photo very sad to comments about spelling very sad person
WHAT DOES FIRST CLAP MEAN, ARE WE IN A CHILDRENS PLAYGROUND,GETTING THE KIDS ON YOUR SIDE,GROW UP,AND SEE WHAT IS COMING,WHY SHOULD HE BE AShamed for speaking the truth.
The old liberal tactic..Just call your opponent a "racist" or "xenophobe" and you won't need to deliver an answer. It sickens me to the core to see that woman getting praised for this.
I think it should sicken you that he suggested that we turn people away with life threatening illnesses.
Well Done Leanne 👏🏻💛
bye bye Leanne!
@@adambinnie1332 apparently she stormed off stage in a huff
Sturgeon cut funding to aids research in scotland
Farage is spot on, I thought Farage was miles in front when it came to clear plain speaking.
Nice post jim.
For more info on supporting ukip please go to ukip.org
Well that is his approach isn't it? Man waving a pint with common sense solutions that make sense to the layman. He is not for the more educated voters though.
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charlotteq1 I hate the way you caps lock British.
People tell me that Nigel Farage says "what everyone thinks, but are too afraid to say".
But I never think what he says. So using the logic in my first statement, Nigel Farage says what "nobody thinks".
Basically, in my opinion Nigel Farage says "what *some* people think but are too afraid to say".
Leanne makes a good point. These facts delivered in this way cause division. Is it a "cheap shot" to say "you should be ashamed?" Maybe. It's also cheap to put blame solely on immigrant people.
If we are going to scrutinize how much is spent on foreign aid, then we need to scrutinize total expenditure. The figure by itself will look huge. In comparison to other costs, maybe not.
We as a public are unfortunate in that we cannot easily see what is going on. Or we lack the genuine interest to investigate it ourselves. So we rely on other people to tell us what to think.
The trouble is they know Nigel is correct but are to scared to say it. And what is scare mundering scare hundering is it some Welsh thing
Why do these guys insist on tax payer money being spent to help other nationals before UK citizens?
Mostly because it actually works in the long term.
Also because their too scared to touch the 85bn in corporate subsidies we give corporations (bit.ly/1nb763p) - We could fix all the problems with that cash. (but its their mates cash so they wont touch that)
Also because they are human beings that cannot at all help themselves due to the dire situations. (mostly)
Also because their are other places to find money before stopping aid.
Also you have to keep in mind. By saying no aid, you are also saying, keep those people in a place where they are starving/sick/tortured etc - Even though we technically can help.
Also Its leverage on other countries
Its not fair but it is what it is.
Archivian
It's not the UK's priority to help countless people looking for benefits and the NHS.
treejoe4 Even in the worse possible case, thats actually not true.
less than 300,000 influx of people out of 65,000,000 population, the vast majority of which are paying their taxes (so paying their way).
Unless you mean that even if they pay their way they still shouldn't be allowed to use NHS etc?
If thats the case then, really your just pointing it out because they are foreign.
You seem fine with giving 85bn to corporations but not a fraction of that amount to help people in trouble.
It would seem helping people isn't YOUR priority. That seems to be the kind of country that your trying to bring about.
Archivian
You are still aren't getting at why it is a priority. I don't want to provide taxes towards helping towards any random person coming to the UK, we don't even get that kind of treatment in their countries.
But I guess you are fine with a 2050 Islamic UK. I guess you are also fine with minimum wage decreasing (as wages are extremely tied to immigration).
Both are obviously issues, but don't act like the billions wasted in immigration is small.
treejoe4 Ok so your outright bigoted.
We do get healthcare abroad, in the EU. Because we are part of the EU. We get to move freely as well. Its starting to happen a bit more due to our failing NHS.
The countries we give aid to, also tend to not even have the facilities to provide the same medical care, hence partly why we might give them aid. But you prefer they suffer, don't develop, and don't ultimately contribute back (usually through trade).
You also don't want the UK to maintain any international leverage.
Also there are only 3mil ish Muslims in the UK. There are 62mil of everyone else.
These are only big issues in your mind, not on paper or in reality. And in all that, giving away 85bn to corporations, wasn't even a blip on your radar. Way more than enough money to fix the NHS, help social programs and still leave a massive chunk to subsidize corporations (not to mention corp tax). But you want to focus on 3mil, + an influx of 250 thousand approx.
Try looking beyond your own bubble before (incorrectly) blaming the rest of the world.
Your so scared you feel 3mil people will some how defeat (what ever that might mean in your brain) 62million.
Those Muslims must be super ninja in your brain. All 3 mil of them working together to take down 62 million people.
No I am not tied low min wage. That would be irrational. I am more in the progressive box than anything else.
Immigration links with min wage. Everything else, links with wages more.
Money in politics is an even stronger correlation. You might want to look at that.
Good for Leanne Wood.
CHEAP POLITICAL POINT SCORING THAT HAS BACK FIRED - IT MIGHT HAVE GOT A CLAP FROM THOSE JUST GAGGING TO PUT DOWN FARAGE BUT THE MAJORITY OF THE BRITISH PEOPLE DONT WANT HIV POSITIVE PEOPLE COMING TO THE UK TO LIVE THATS A FACT
Vitalis of Assisi and i am assuming you have numbers to prove that thry are coming here do you? Usual daily mail style scare tactics. when will you realise its you and the whole ukip support that are blindly following the propaganda... only the weak follow ukip
ALL HAIL THE MIGHTY ️SNP !
+Alexander ? BUNCH OF WANKERS
+peppersdog1 you sound a wee bit angry mate I'm sure they have a tablet for that
There is only one party to vote for as he speaks from the heart and tells the truth as it is but once again we have to many do gooders wanting things to be the same forever and do we really want to be paying for foreigners medication at high prices coming out of our pockets and for N.H.S. to foot the bill for people coming here from overseas and jst to finish after working overseas for 23 yrs i never once got any medical help from many countries without my company paying big bucks, think about it as Nicola Sturgeon seemingly has not, we are a small country and cannot afford to go on like this, its common sense so Nigel Farage is the only one who has seen the problems that we have.
Why should He be ashamed for speaking the truth,You are in noddy land,if You cant see what is coming very soon,,more fool You.
i can understand why Nigels position isnt popular, but hes living in the real world. if this practice continues, the entire system will collapse. its simply ruinous. sorry, but these issues have to be discussed.
steve tafe Most of those opposing him are idealists that are scared of being contradicted..
Tom Mo ya i think theres alot of fear out there. i dont think anyone wants to be associated with this issue at all, which i get. but look at the letter nigel received from a british taxpayer with HIV, complaining about lack of service at the hospital. it has to be discussed.
GO UKIP
What Nigel is suggesting is that we put a price on peoples lives, and I frankly would feel ashamed of a Great Britain that would so callously treat other human beings with such disrespect. We are fortunate to live in a country where we have free health care and Nigel should show a little more compassion for those who are not so lucky. To turn people away with a serious illness like HIV is tantamount to a death sentence and I for one would not want that on my conscience.
Try cutting a cake into 64 million slices.
So your in favour of renaming it an international health service then?
You can't treat the vast majority of everyone else in the world. Eventually our resources become too stretched. Most of us are not wealthy, and the NHS struggles to treat many of us quickly.
Guys, I think you miss the point of what she said. She did claim that he was "scaremongering" and that he "should be ashamed" that is a definite fact, theres no hiding it. But she didn't say that he should be ashamed for wanting the British the priority she claimed that he should be ashamed for ALWAYS blaming EVERYTHING on foreigners, next he'll claim that foreigners caused the bloody deficit! So sure, I agree with Leanne, he should be ashamed, no I don't agree that foreigners should be given priority, but I also don't think that they should be forced to look elsewhere for treatment.
charlotteq1 This may be true but sometimes in their countries there is war, bloodshed, famine, extreme disease, can you really blame them for choosing Britain over their own impoverished country? For wanting quality healthcare for their children, knowing full well they won't get it where they are? In an ideal world, everyone would be able to be treated, sadly we don't
charlotteq1 Those seeking healthcare often need the healthcare, which they can't get in their own countries.
It's a fact
Was Mr bean on this show last night ?
I wish that little Welsh women was the leader of the labour party.
She won this hands down.
Votethetoryscumout Makeyourvotecount My god, a positive comment on Leanne. Nice to finally see someone that isnt a right wing extremist that just wants to tell everyone to fuck off!
Like most people I though Farage was being a bit harsh bringing this up but then read of this story some weeks after the General Election: www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-west-wales-33115866
Well I was going to vote for You,what a childish outburst,You came across with nothing,Nigel Farage had all the answers,What did You have.
Farage was correct.
Farage got his come uppance there and in 6 weeks time his bubble will really burst.
kilbraur What do you mean?
Your comment didn’t age well did it? 😂😂😂
I think the appaluse was as much for Farage saying it was a fact as for Wood's comment
MAKE YOUR VOTE COUNT
Its a choice of what you what this country to become.
If you want your mother, grandmother mugged on the street for a bag of shopping..then vote tory
If you want unprecedented homelessness and social cleansing..vote tory
If you want young people without money or hope of a future and roaming our country with malice in their hearts...vote tory.
If you want zero hour contracts and food banks in every high street,then vote tory.
If you want to be afraid of walking the streets in England for fear of being mugged..vote tory.
If you want to more deaths of disabled people being told that they are capable of working and then having there benefit stopped,only to drop dead a week later vote tory...22000 yes twenty two thousand sick and disabled people have died inthis country in the last five years after being told they are capable of working..
Mostly cancer patients.....if you believe this is the country you want to live in,then vote tory.
If you want a country full of hatred then vote tory.
Not voting isnt a choice. Not voting is a vote for the conservatives.
MAKE YOUR VOTE COUNT..people
To all the people supporting farage. Aren't you lucky to have been born in a country where HIV isn't as widepread, we have easy access to condoms and the education to know how necessary they are.
What is the actual alternative Farage is suggesting? Leaving people from worse of countries to die from an illness we can treat? I personally think treating sick people is an excellent use of my tax money
charlotteq1 Is it well documented? You didn't include any proof. Please don't comment unless you plan to address any of the points I made which you didn't. Please explain why being born British entitles you to a better life? I never want to be use systems comparable to USA when it comes to health care but thats just me. p.s when you use caplocks I can actually read just as easily as when you type normally.
charlotteq1 Please don't insult my intelligence or call me filth because my views are different to yours. I thought we were having a mature discussion. I understand completely that it's the NHS I'm just shocked and deeply troubled by the lack of regard for human lives. Obviously you are welcome to keep commenting but you didn't answer my question. Why does being British mean you have a right to a better life?