The Starting Strength Power Rack
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- Mark Rippetoe presents the Starting Strength Power Rack manufactured by Texas Strength Systems. A classic, versatile, and extremely sturdy c-channel design that's been in use at WFAC since 1980.
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To be honest, I don't see a compelling reason to buy this rack. Everything Rip mentions as a feature, you can do with virtually any other rack on the market, save for perhaps angled safeties (and I'm not sure what that's for).
For the nearly $1,200 that this rack costs, you can buy a Rogue R3 rack, an Ohio Power Bar, and a Rogue bench, with some money left over. The R3 will also have 1" hole spacing for benching, and will come with an anodized finish.
I have a TDS power rack, it was like $250-$300 and it does everything you need. It’s rated for 1000lbs.
I agree. Except for the angle of the pin, everything else can be done in other racks.
This.
Strap-safeties instead of pins: can angle, are much quieter, much less wear & tear on your barbells.
Btw, you angle it so if you fail the weight rolls away from you (safer).
actually this rack is superior because of the DIAMETER of the safety pins and bolts and the ease of using the safeties. i am annoyed when it comes to using my pine and pipe and these cold rolled steel pins are much stronger and more durable than the westside model. i have an elitefts 2x2 rack and now im considering this one.
the angled stuff isnt a selling point to me. no one is gonna do that because most want the safety of benching and squatting IN the rack, and those other short bolts are strong enough to hold tens of thousands of pounds so there is no need to angle anything. but i believe that is what makes this rack superior to other ones IF YOU WANT A BASIC RACK. now of course rogue, sorinex and all the other ones are geared towards all these fancy attachments which i dont plan on using. id rather use two barbells for dips than a MATADOR because i can adjust it to any height and any angle i want and i already have the bars, so less space there.
But can you curl in it?
Asking the right questions
Yes, you can curl your hair inside the rack.
Only with hip drive
Yeahp. He has a form for the bicep curl too
Nice one
I built my own rack out of C-channel that cost seriously less than $400. And I made it 8 feet tall so my feet don’t touch the ground for pull ups. The costliest part was having a shop cut out the holes on their cnc plasma table.
Chris Wilson did you number the pin holes? Or leave it like titan fitness for the unknowing purchaser to guess at which is which for the life of the rack? #titanfitnesssucks
@J T Well since I’m the only one using the rack I just marked the holes I need to adjust to for whatever exercises. If need be you could paint on numbers with a stencil I suppose.
J T I’ve got a titan rack and upon first use, marked the pin locations with tape. Have never had to guess, just look at the tape. Titan has plenty to gripe about, but that’s an odd one for sure.
i tried to have a rip rack manufactured locally. i got cost estimates from$1500-$4000. i bought a pro maxima c-channel rack make in Texas for $280.
it suit me fine.
I have several racks like Marks design that are from the early 70s
Im 68 fwiw
These rack have thousands of hours of use on them and are still in perfect condition
For all of you bitching about the price, he put the plans online so you can build it yourself.
If you can't be bothered to follow simple instructions then don't bitch about how much he charges for the pre-built version
Just go ahead and buy a second barbell to do dips inside of our overpriced featureless rack. Even among fanboys, this is going to be a hard sell. Here's a fun game: buy this rack, then try to resell it without losing $800
No one would pay over 300 for it
Or... you could simply place a piece of 1.125" barstock across. The suggestion was for people who have that already.
Damn - I hate to admit it but I just LOVE the way this rack looks. Old School steel strength training. I was about to buy a Rouge R3 but damn this thing just looks too bad ass. LOVE the huge "bolt" J-cups. Not sure about the wood bench...only thing I question is how can I hook a landmine to it, but I guess I'll get the weight mounted one.
Learn to weld my friend
You can mount anything to anything
Honestly I'd rather have a rogue
I'd buy it for $600. Considering it is such a solid, well built rack. But 1200 is ridiculous. I'd rather get a rogue rack if I had that much money to burn.
I think Mark missed the biggest (only?) selling point of a C channel rack. If you live in a humid environment and lift in your garage, the inside of your racks posts will rust because they are bare metal. I live in the SE and the inside of my Rogue monster lite rack has visible surface rust after just a couple months. I wish I could get in there and treat it. A c-channel rack would allow you to easily apply 3 in 1 oil or paint to every inch of the rack.
Get a dehumidifier. You'll need it for other equipment (and the room, and your ass) anyway.
Good point but didn't sell me.
did someone just say rack pulls?
The reason c-channel racks are not common is torsional rigidity. Open sections (like c-channels) have very poor torsional strength. Watch how the rack shakes in the dip video. He'd be much better off using tubing and safety straps to meet the features he wants. It does look pretty metal.
Good point!
I’m good with my Rogue R3.
I think this is the rack that was in my high school weight room in 1978.
I bought one of these racks, two bars and 600# of weight for $700 back in 2017, I'm in love with the style but if I didn't get the steal of price I got i wouldn't have gotten this rack either
Are the dimensions for this power rack (original depth) the same as those in the power rack plan in the blue book? I ask because they both look very similar but on the website it says this power rack has about a 19” depth but plan shows a 22” depth, yet both have the same 49” x 36” base.
How can I work my core using this rack?
All I really need is a recording of Rip saying HIP DRAHVE to increase my SQ
Had these racks in college I
Didn’t know what I didn’t know . Just thought they were good racks ...not so sure about the wooden flat bench though ??🤔
the smooth is smooth so it doesn't hurt your hands. Well until the rust then your getting tetnis. Well you could oil it but good luck hanging on to the pullup bar.
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Buy once, cry once. Looks like a solid piece of equipment that will last for generations. C channel is tough stuff, can smash it with a sledge hammer and all it will do is laugh at you.
Price is simply not competitive with the market. $1200 can get you a lot of nicer stuff with Rogue.
Looks like it could use a gusset or two to stabilize it. I saw a lot of movements while they demonstrated the dips
Ships to Australia?
This is embarrassing to watch... he doesn’t even believe the shit he’s saying
👍🏻💪🏻I am impressed!
What is the purpose of an olympic barbell being seven feet long? No one has really explained why.
snatches
No one knows
It just so happens that three and a half people have exactly seven feet. This is different in metric.
I looked at this from an engineering stand point, if the official weight had to be 20 Kg, the way to accomplish that is through the type of steel used, diameter, length, the sleeves to accept the plates, and other hardware used in manufacturing of a barbell.
Back before Chase got big, and Bre was still natty.
Rip selling out at a rapid rate, desperately trying to monetize for that retirement money
I think he's just at that point of being able to grow the business in such a way to sell more than a few books and coaching certifications.
Haters gonna hate.
This guy speaks with a matter of fact accent to everything, as if there's no other option lol. Roque offers way more superior products
This gave me more hype draive for my squat?
TSS is a horrible equipment company!
Shadows and dust
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Did I see a Klingon flag hanging in the background? 😂😂😂
"dip pattern"
Why is it shaking so much when he dips? My $800 tube rack seens more stable😂
I see quite a few broke cross fit experts in the comments 😂
Pin and pipe is better than these giant 2" safeties...pin and pipe absorbs when you drop the bar...which helps save the bar. And you have no j hooks with this thing because the hooks are screwed in via fixed bolts...and the wooden bench...who thinks of these ideas? WestSide 2x2 is a better rack, no contest.
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this is nonsense ... u can do all this and more work n any rack , rogue, elitefts , this is what a power rack is meant to do duh
The starting strength rack is 1800 bucks shipped. No thanks. I will stick to my monster rack.
STARTING STRENGTH POWER RACK
Regular price $1,185.00
No thanks.
The gym I usually work out in just dropped ~$3500 on each of 3 new squat rack/deadlift platform combos. I think this is geared more for commercial gyms rather than home.
Unless something has changed recently this is way better than the prices you'll find at elitefts.
This will pair nicely with my cutting board bench. Seasoned steaks anyone?
@@danrowell286 A rogue R3 is 695. You could buy an R3, rogue bar and bench for slightly less than this rack costs
CorpsmanBear🐻 any commercial gym going out of their way to overspend has to recover costs somehow. These SS gyms do it by charging members $315/month for 3 sessions a week
why isn't it made out of wood?
My wallet hurts after watching this video.
This is the first Mark Rip' clip that I've watched on RUclips that sounds scripted. It doesn't sound like he really believes in what he is saying?! Where has his passion and enthusiasm gone? He sounds like somebody who has got a gun pointed at his head!
There seems to be an excessive and forced amount of eye contact with the camera compared to his usual videos, but then he is the only one in frame so it's a different dynamic I suppose
Yeah I'm surprised they even uploaded this sounds very unrip.
I think they're trying to market to gyms, so probably wanted a slightly more professional tone with this video.
SS is trying to go more mainstream and to do this they don't want to trigger anyone's feelings. Customers often need to feel emotionally invested, like a brand is their new religion. If they have any reason to abandon ship, they will do so; and there are plenty of other equipment providers around. Notice this channel doesn't mention some subjects anymore, i.e. climate change (or was it global warming?) and GOMAD, which could trigger vegan customers.
It used to be this channel was way more tolerant of people saying whatever, but don't you trigger anyone now, though. SS just might stand for Special Snowflakes these days. Unfortunately.
Don't know if you noticed but he checked out a couple years ago mate.
Poor Rip peddling expensive garbage.
Find you a man who talks about you like Rip talks about his power rack
I also fabricate these, if anyone in the Midwest would like to save on shipping.
what are the holes size, you seem like you might know?
The good thing about this rack is that its super easy to make yourself
What did you use to drill the holes? I have a 3200 lb milling machine, so not a problem, but 39 holes per upright at 1-3/8" diameter...what does a "regular Joe" use?
Best is to use a HSS annular core bit in a drill press
*ROGUE INTENSIFIES*
I bought a Titan X-3 for 450 dollars. I don't see anything about this rack that would compel me, or anyone else, to shell out an additional 700 dollars.
An additional $1000, as of April 16 2021.
Wonder that his thoughts on a squat rack are. They're usually cheaper but you lose the cage effect and what Rip talks about in this video.
In the early 1980s, theses were awesome racks.
Is this a joke?
"hole density"
Needs to be wood like the bench.
Cool rack. My favorite power racks that I have used are made by Hammer Strength and Legend Fitness. USA made and expensive but super solid heavy duty!
I don't see a compelling reason as to why this rack is better than others. And unique equipment is annoying to get new parts for, either you hope TSS makes it or get a fabricator to make it for you and hope it works.
i think its a good rack with some unique upsides my only issue is the guide pins all they had to do was drill a hole in the ends and put a pin in there and then it wouldnt slide out
There is absolutely no need for this outdated design. A rogue r3 rack costs less than this, is just as strong, and will accommodate a dip attachment and various pull-up bars. An all metal bolt as your j cup will destroy the knurling on your bars
I see Rip is doing GOMAD.
He should
Will a rack this badass keep people from 1/2 repping while instagramming?
Why does it matter that you can use the end of the pin as a j-cup? With other racks you could just put the j-cup on the outside of the rack wherever you want...
2" between holes isn't a big deal, lots out there are 1" through the important (bench pressing) area. 3" is just ridiculous
It's a bit of extra flexibility. The main selling point, in my opinion, is the fact that you don't have to align the safeties /perfectly/ when you set them. Also, a lot of j-hooks just suck for re-racking weights properly; like they expect you to walk the bar in /exactly/ and drop it down on them.
My 200 bucks rep fitness rack can do that.. the pins has an end that can be used as j-cups outside the rack.
The only advantage of diagonal pin placement as a j hook is the j hook pin will not shift or back out when re racking or shifting a weighted bar resting on the pins. I already have a Rogue RML-390c so I don’t need another rack but the j cups do move when shifting the bar position
There are J-hooks with rollers:
www.fitness-seller.nl/atx-roller-j-hooks/
Just because something is different doesn’t mean it’s better. You could probably get an R3, straps if you really need uneven safeties, and a dip attachment for less than that shitty rack.
What garbage equipment and designs... Just pathetic design.
Its a good rack Im sure. But I already have my Titan Fitness X6 shorty rack.
Looks like it could use a gusset or two to stabilize it. I saw a lot of movements while they demonstrated the dips
What kind of flag is that to the left of the texas flag in the thumbnail?
.....even after you put plans in the back of your own book so people can have their own version of this rack fabricated for ~$500?
Huh. That's wild.
I have one of these racks; good rack, but it does not compare to my Samson rack.
Does the SS rack wobble much? I am debating on purchasing a SS rack. Thank You
@@shaundonovan2193
depends on the build
one DIY version I saw on youtube did, but he also said he can slam weights without it tipping over
It comes down to the skill of the welder
@@slackerengi2401 I dont think welder skill would make a difference, the way its fabricated with only one bar connecting the two frames will make it wobble regardless
Sturdy? Even when bolted to the ground this thing shakes like hell, never had such nuisance with my Rogue R3
that girl got cute arms
Looks like it could use a gusset or two to stabilize it. I saw a lot of movements while they demonstrated the dips
I want one! Looks great
The man can press 330 pounds overhead, but can't bench the bar?
Looks like a great rack and might be better than the Rogue R3.
Question - do you ship to Canada?
...another stupid teenager or a paid comment
Lil B Press - not paid. Good steel costs money meathead.
Just a regular guy in Toronto asking a question.
When did people become so rude?
@@MrVigilanti But why pay twice as much even if it has better steel? How often do you hear of broken R3s? Do we even know this steel is better? Texas Strength Systems as made some bad stuff in my experience. This seems like a solution to a problem that doesn't exist.
Crabcakes - if you have a rack I’m sure you wouldn’t be watching videos about a rack.
I wouldn’t buy a second if you have a quality rack lol.
@@MrVigilanti I watch because I like rip. I have a rack
HOW IS A C CHANNEL STRONGER THAN A TUBE?????? WHAT THE HELL!!!
4” c-channel is very strong and a quality tubing rack should be stronger... but is it all overkill at this point?