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  • @randycheow4268
    @randycheow4268 Год назад +22

    I remember people kept saying that David is the one who created the Xenomorph but turns out he only created his upgrade or inferior version of the Xenomorph

    • @stiricidium2281
      @stiricidium2281 Год назад +8

      I am of the mindset that David recreated the xenomorph from an ancient, preserved ovomorph vivisection kept on Paradise and later shown in his research during Alien: Covenant. You are right; it's probably a little bit of both, upgrade and inferior version. In some ways, it's methods are more direct, but the creature's actions are also less measured and calculated. It is an oversimplification of XX121, hence why David is just now updating to make his own queen based on XX121's genetic data. In some ways it is more direct and efficient. However, it is flawed and short-sighted. It doesn't adapt into different castes or function the exact same way that the more ancient XX121 variant does. Instead, it just genocide.

    • @ProjectACHERON
      @ProjectACHERON Год назад +4

      That exactly what canon says and I explain it in this video

    • @nyarlathotep194
      @nyarlathotep194 Год назад +4

      I remember when I first assumed this was the case when watching covenant for the first time and being very very against the idea of this human maid android making the xenomorphs that we're familiar with, and still am,
      I felt not only that it downplayed the engineer's relevancy but also took away what made the alien truly alien, barely knowing a thing about them other than what's shown on the front cover,
      resultingly I treated Alien Covenant like a fair chunk of Predator fans treat Shane Black's The Predator, as I felt it tried to retcon the Xenomorph into something less interesting,
      I very much prefer the Idea that the Xenomorphs we see in the first films at least originate to a degree from something almost unfathomably ancient, and that perhaps the engineers may have merely discovered the species and made minimum modifications to them, namely the biomechanical exoskeleton, Project Archeron has a multi video fan film from a couple years ago that shares a similar view.
      example, maybe the Praetomorph created by David could be largely similar to some sort of extinct Ancestor Xenomorph from thousands or even millions of years ago,
      perhaps even before they were discovered and slightly modified by Engineers.
      when I started to see various details pointing out the more likely outcome of the Praetomorph being a recreation of the original animal, I almost immediately subscribed to that idea as I feel it redeems the original Plagiarus praepotens including the mystery of it's past, while still having a place for Plagiarus linesteres, as a more recent variant strain brought up by human and android medalling.
      afaik the derelict ship in the first alien film was laying there on LV426 for a very long time, somewhere I read that the pilot was described as fossilized, which takes 10,000 years minimum to occur, that's pretty much the big one I tend to think about.
      EDIT:
      here's what I hypothesize for an in universe evolution of the xenomorph
      - engineers, or another species, either discover the ancestor to, or artificially create Xenomorph XX121 -
      prefer discovery theory due to more mystery, with engineers merely adding a biomechanical exoskeleton as armour,
      I like to view an ancestor Xeno as looking like both XX121 and Praetomorph but without exposed tendoms or biomechanics
      regarding other species, see Project Archeron's Alien Awakening unofficial fanfilms, which introduces Progenitors,
      the fanfilms share similar (but not identical) views to what I believe
      - XX121 is mass produced -
      as a bioweapon, possibly leading to creating a pathogen variant as a less costly production method
      - Engineers attempt to Save Xenomorph genetic code into a variant of the Pathogen -
      either made as an alternate to Xenos, or a more destructive weapon,
      I believe there is more than one type of Pathogen and I think most will agree with me on that, since each one is used differently with different results
      - Xeno-Pathogen tries to recreate Xenomorphs on it's own with whatever faunal genetic material it comes into contact with -
      leading to aberrant impure xenomorph-like monsters, Deacons, Neomorphs, Hammerpedes, Abominations,
      I do not think the Deacon is a Xeno ancestor, but an artificial creature made by accident with the xeno-pathogen that some Engineers celebrate, creating new life without evolution, the mural in Prometheus being a display to brag about said achievement
      - many centuries later after Engineers have seemingly disappeared, David successfully recreates a strain of Xenomorph, the Praetomorph -
      which is his attempts at recreating the Xenomorph, resembling the ancestor Xenomorph before XX121, but looking very rushed since it's muscles and ligaments are exposed,
      I feel this could enforce how Xenomorph XX121 is still the perfect organism by the standards we project onto it, with a hypothetical ancestor Xeno and the Praetomorph being near-perfect

    • @Nicholas_Chen_
      @Nicholas_Chen_ Год назад +2

      It seems the Xenomorphs are created with the black goo which are replica of the blood of Deacon.
      So everything goes back to Deacon, the OG monster, the base/foundation for every mutation.
      Then the engineers develop the black goo from Deacon or to replicate Deacon.
      Which David finds and experiments with it with everything.
      Neomorph resembles Deacon greatly but has a white, organic appearance likely a more fungi/plant-based variant of the Deacon main strain.
      David then mixed the black goo with Dr. Shaw and human DNA and created the protomorph/praetomorph, a prototype for the main xenomorph, but having more human-like organic features. He will then perfect them into the main xenomorphs.
      So
      Deacon -> Black Goo
      Black Goo + Plants -> Neomorph
      Black Goo + Humans -> Protomorph +perfection -> Xenomorph
      Honestly by this point it just makes me more curious about the deacon rather than the xenomorph lol

    • @Xenosaurian
      @Xenosaurian Год назад +3

      Yeah, the idea of David's Protomorph being the first Xenomorph was stupid.

  • @Nicholas_Chen_
    @Nicholas_Chen_ Год назад +12

    Well done again. I love this series and amazing that you cover the variants too in this analytical fashion. Praetomorph (I still like to call it Protomorph) seems more similar to the Clone Xenomorphs in Resurrection, very organic and fleshy looking, whether it’s a coincidence or deliberate creative decision by the filmmakers I find it fascinating, it likely is more ‘human’ hence looking more organic, it’s more rapid growth rate likely is due to its genetic imperfection. However it does have elements of the OG classic xenomorph too, so it’s very much a prototype that will be perfected into the main Xeno later on. Just wish the prequel trilogy could be finished so we reach the main Xeno strain by the end of the evolution chain.

    • @Xenosaurian
      @Xenosaurian Год назад +1

      It's actual name is Protomorph, not Praetomorph (that's Andrew Gaska's idea and I'm not subscribing to it).

  • @vladimirchernikov4249
    @vladimirchernikov4249 Год назад +3

    Always love the content on this channel. I eat up anything alien related, awesome work as always.

    • @ProjectACHERON
      @ProjectACHERON Год назад

      Awesome, thank you so much for your support, plenty more alien content in the pipe 5X5

  • @ShadeMeadows
    @ShadeMeadows Год назад +6

    God...
    *I LOVE IT SO MUCH.*

  • @rhysstones
    @rhysstones 3 месяца назад

    Hey man, very informative video! What music did you use in the background? is it from Covenant? I love it!

  • @denalihanzo2713
    @denalihanzo2713 Месяц назад

    Project acheron do you have any plans to do a video on the scorched xenomorph from romulus?🙏🏽👀😩

  • @Hicks-g1m
    @Hicks-g1m Год назад +11

    The Praetomorph is one deadly Alien I would not want to encounter one

    • @Nicholas_Chen_
      @Nicholas_Chen_ Год назад +2

      It seems easier to kill though just pure aggressive attacks makes it easy to be targeted in the open

    • @HOTD108_
      @HOTD108_ Год назад +3

      As if you'd want to encounter any alien species within this franchise.

    • @danielefabbro822
      @danielefabbro822 Год назад

      It is still a product of our fantasy.
      Truth is that out there there cold be way more "alien" and ferocious. Other than disgusting.

    • @Xenosaurian
      @Xenosaurian Год назад +1

      *Protomorph, not "Praetomorph".

  • @fmpentertainmentmedley3338
    @fmpentertainmentmedley3338 Год назад +1

    Another brilliant vid thanx 😊

  • @nyarlathotep194
    @nyarlathotep194 Год назад +6

    part of me hopes one day in a future Alien film to see a Praetomorph and a Xenomorph Drone engage in 1 on 1 combat,
    similar to how covenant was originally going to feature a fight between a Neomorph and the first Praetomorph,
    maybe even displaying the exoskeleton and strategic thinking that the Xeno possesses, giving it an advantage,
    but at the same time I'm unsure if such a thing is needed.

    • @Nicholas_Chen_
      @Nicholas_Chen_ Год назад +2

      I can see David doing a test on his new xenomorph creation by having it fighting the previous praetomorph version

    • @jasonreilich8398
      @jasonreilich8398 Год назад

      would've been such a scene!
      to bad.☹️😣

    • @Xenosaurian
      @Xenosaurian Год назад +1

      *Protomorph, not "Praetomorph".

    • @nyarlathotep194
      @nyarlathotep194 Год назад

      Yes Praetomorph,
      that is an established name I see commonly used for the covenant alien, and is an accepted name for it,
      afaik the term "protomorph" is a blanket term for any xenomorph-like entity that isn't pure xenomorph, and the term "protomorph" was seemingly originally used for the Deacon occasionally,
      so if you don't want people getting Praetomorphs, Neomorphs, and Deacons mixed up, I'd advice using the word Praetomorph when describing the covenant alien,
      this video calls the covenant alien Praetomorph, and most of the updated (and what I view as more reliable) sources do the same,
      look it up
      EDIT: I will stand corrected on one point I mention as it seems the term protomorph was used in the concept stage of the deacon's development before covenant.
      that said, this means the term protomorph was contextualized before the release of Prometheus for the Deacon, not with the Praetomorph in covenant

    • @Xenosaurian
      @Xenosaurian Год назад +1

      @@nyarlathotep194 No, it's Protomorph as it's always been since the beginning. It's specifically used to refer to the Covenant Xenomorph created by David. The term "Praetomorph" is just a redundant mangled spelling of the name introduced later by Andrew Gaska in the Alien RPG. The term Protomorph has NEVER been used for the Deacon, but you're referring to the obscure term "Proto-Xenomorph" that was used in a piece of early concept art and which many people do not know about, and they know that creature as the "Deacon" only. Nobody will get confused by calling the Covenant Xenomorph for Protomorph because that's the name that was assigned to it by both fans and official products. Using the name "Praetomorph" is more confusing though.

  • @jafleming0409
    @jafleming0409 Год назад +9

    I really enjoy using the Praetomorph in my Alien RPG games, aggressive and feral, they are the perfect creature when players are on a more jungle-like world where they fit right in. Good job as always brother.

    • @ProjectACHERON
      @ProjectACHERON Год назад +2

      Yeah for sure!

    • @Xenosaurian
      @Xenosaurian Год назад +1

      *Protomorph, not "Praetomorph".

    • @jafleming0409
      @jafleming0409 Год назад +2

      @@Xenosaurian Sorry but you're incorrect. A Praetomorph is the kind of adult alien seen in Alien:Covenant that made it onto the Space vessel that David engineered thru his experimentation on planet Paradise. The Protomorph is what has been called the Deacon in Prometheus that came out of the Engineer's body at the end of the movie. Check with the Official canon Alien RPG Core Rulebook, it explains all.

    • @Xenosaurian
      @Xenosaurian Год назад +1

      @@jafleming0409 Sorry, but you are incorrect. The Covenant Xenomorph has always been known officially and by fans as Protomorph, and the term "Praetomorph" was introduced later by Andrew Gaska exclusively for the Alien RPG and is just confusing, redundant, and a mangled spelling of Protomorph. The Deacon has always been known as the Deacon, and NEVER as "Protomorph"! It was at one point in a piece of early concept art referred to as "Proto-Xenomorph" and that was never picked up by fans or any official products. The Alien RPG doesn't get to dictate canon anymore than any other person or product.

    • @ProjectACHERON
      @ProjectACHERON Год назад +3

      Sure thing man, you call it what you want and we will call it what we want?

  • @firstacheronqueen4256
    @firstacheronqueen4256 Год назад +6

    I'd buy that for a dollar 💰😊

  • @--SHEPHERD-OF-MOTHER-EARTH--
    @--SHEPHERD-OF-MOTHER-EARTH-- Год назад +2

    Fire...

  • @EvansSimakos
    @EvansSimakos Год назад

    Nice video. Thank you

  • @Ufuk646
    @Ufuk646 Год назад

    Awsome Video!!!❤️

  • @brolysaiyan6152
    @brolysaiyan6152 Месяц назад

    Might have already been said but it's pronounced as Plague-Ee-Are-Us Prep-Oh-Tens

  • @MoonDevoured
    @MoonDevoured Год назад +3

    i get slightly triggerwd whenever someone calls the praetomorph "inferior," but I do get it. I just personally favor the praetomorph over the xenomorph, immensely. aesthetically in particular. one could argue that the xeno's intellect vs the praeto's heightened aggression is its greatest advantage, but I orefer to look at it circumstantially

    • @disregardthat
      @disregardthat Год назад

      it's only really "inferior" in terms of being unable to perpetuate itself through reproduction. without a queen, there's no way for the species to spread, other than through the eggs that David 8 handmade. otherwise the praetomorph is definitely more beastly than a xenomorph warrior, though maybe still shy of the bigger bioforms like the xenomorph praetorian and such

    • @Y2Kr4SHM4N
      @Y2Kr4SHM4N Год назад

      Ugh. Do you prefer Ghostbusters 2016 to that IPs original too?

    • @Xenosaurian
      @Xenosaurian Год назад +1

      *Protomorph, not "Praetomorph".

    • @PrinceFlashmo
      @PrinceFlashmo Год назад +1

      Valid! Honestly the Praeto is one of my favourite incarnations for me, right up there with the Runner from Alien 3 and the incarnation from Alien: Isolation.

    • @Xenosaurian
      @Xenosaurian Год назад +1

      *Proto, not "Praeto"...@@PrinceFlashmo

  • @combineadviser3405
    @combineadviser3405 Год назад +2

    i think the whole thing about the preatomorph attacking faster and angrier is just because better cgi was used to animate it

    • @ProjectACHERON
      @ProjectACHERON Год назад +7

      I prefer to talk in universe only

    • @Y2Kr4SHM4N
      @Y2Kr4SHM4N Год назад

      CGI has ruined everything, including writing. This current era of cinema, culture and pop culture is primitive, and has regressed due to tech, rather than having evolved. I expected so much more.
      Better CGI? The aliens moved much more realistically in Aliens, where the actors leapt from wall to wall using wires. This CGI subspecies is like an angry ant. Gone is the cool, enigmatic creature.

    • @Xenosaurian
      @Xenosaurian Год назад +1

      *Protomorph, not "Praetomorph".

    • @combineadviser3405
      @combineadviser3405 Год назад

      @@Xenosaurianfor the record, I was referencing the preatomorph.

    • @Xenosaurian
      @Xenosaurian Год назад +1

      @@combineadviser3405 And I was saying it's *Protomorph, not "Praetomorph".

  • @ZChronicNebula
    @ZChronicNebula Год назад +1

    👍

  • @collinfulling3223
    @collinfulling3223 Год назад +5

    I miss the good ol’ Xenomorph. I’m sick of the black goo, fakemorphs, and pseudo-philosophical drivel

    • @Xenosaurian
      @Xenosaurian Год назад +5

      The franchise has definitely been pretty messy since around 2012 or so.

    • @ProjectACHERON
      @ProjectACHERON Год назад +4

      I like the expansion

    • @Xenosaurian
      @Xenosaurian Год назад +4

      @@ProjectACHERON Expanding the universe is one thing, but they definitely could have done things better.

    • @YodaOnABender
      @YodaOnABender Месяц назад

      @@Xenosaurianwe just gonna pretend Alien 3 and Resurrection weren’t also dogpoo?

  • @giovannig2278
    @giovannig2278 Год назад +3

    The very first Praetomorph is Captain ORAM re incarnated 🦠 😮 look at the giant human like 🦷 teeth

    • @ProjectACHERON
      @ProjectACHERON Год назад +2

      Isn’t that every xenomorph though?

    • @Xenosaurian
      @Xenosaurian Год назад +1

      *Protomorph, not "Praetomorph".

    • @giovannig2278
      @giovannig2278 Год назад +1

      @@ProjectACHERON No captain Orams alien had non sharp human like teeth 🦷

    • @giovannig2278
      @giovannig2278 Год назад +2

      @@Xenosaurian research both and then come back and talk to me 😂🤌

    • @Xenosaurian
      @Xenosaurian Год назад +1

      @@giovannig2278 Huh? I've followed this franchise and its products for years. The Deacon has never been called "Protomorph". The Protomorph is the Covenant Xenomorph. The name "Praetomorph" is just a redundant butchered version of the original name Protomorph.

  • @Xenosaurian
    @Xenosaurian Год назад +1

    You mean "otherwise known by its colloquial name *Protomorph", not Praetomorph.

    • @ProjectACHERON
      @ProjectACHERON Год назад +3

      No the deacon is the protomorph, the creature developed by David on paradise is named the praetomorph

    • @Xenosaurian
      @Xenosaurian Год назад +2

      @@ProjectACHERON Nah, it's commonly known as Protomorph. The Deacon is just the Deacon.

  • @nodatastored684
    @nodatastored684 Год назад +3

    The Praetomorph is the Aliens from Alien Resurrection

    • @Nicholas_Chen_
      @Nicholas_Chen_ Год назад +3

      They have similarities but are quite different too. The Resurrection Xeno looks filthy and disgusting with a red/brown-ish colour. It looks better in AVP1 tho which is just the same suit but painted black and metallic looks more sleek and iconic

    • @HOTD108_
      @HOTD108_ Год назад +3

      No.

    • @Jack_Jack_907
      @Jack_Jack_907 Год назад +1

      I think you need to rewatch both movies, because the way both alien branches are born and how they are brought to existence is different.
      Resurrection's aliens are genetic hybrids of Ripley 8 and the Xenomorph XX121 strain, that's why they look more fleshy and the Queen has a womb. It's implied that because of they are considered to be slightly more intelligent than average xenos by doing things like: Setting traps for humans, using the weaker of the 3 trapped aliens to escape, and pressing the button that freezes the scientist out of revenge.
      Covenant's Protomorphs (Praetomorphs) are part of David's experimentation using the black goo and Dr Shaw's reproductive system to engineer his own perfect organism. That's why David refers to Shaw as his Queen or the first Queen, because supposedly he used her eggs to develop the eggs we are familiar with the Queen Alien typically laying. Though you'll notice that for this particular alien when born, it comes out already bipedal and more fully formed, able to use it's arms, rather than the usual snake-like appearing chest burster that slithers around. Lastly, the Covenant Alien is far more simple minded and animalistic than any other type before because it is still imperfect, just a prototype.
      (Protomorph, prototype, AYEEE gottem)
      Though I get the confusion, because ultimately they're all part of the same family tree, just different variants.

    • @nodatastored684
      @nodatastored684 Год назад

      I watch weekly

    • @Xenosaurian
      @Xenosaurian Год назад +1

      *Protomorph, not "Praetomorph". But no, the Protomorph is not the same as the Xenomorph from Resurrection.