What If Science Took The Paranormal Seriously? | The Superhumanities | Prof. Jeffrey Kripal PhD
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- Опубликовано: 11 май 2024
- Essentia Foundation’s Hans Busstra interviews Prof. Jeffrey Kripal, PhD, who holds the J. Newton Rayzor Chair in Philosophy and Religious Thought at Rice University in Houston, on his new book: ‘The Superhumanities, Historical Precedents, Moral Objections, New Realities.’
What if the humanities would open their horizon to more metaphysical possibilities? Prof. Kripal has written a book about a future in which the humanities study the full human. In these superhumanities, the weird, the psi-in short, the impossible-is taken seriously metaphysically: anomalous phenomena are not only regarded as subjective truths, but also as objective claims about reality.
In his book, Prof. Kripal clearly shows how the nineteenth century ontology of materialism reigns in almost all of the humanities, which limits our scientific understanding of who we are as humans: there is no transcendence, the individual is nothing but a social body in spacetime, shaped by society. As Prof. Kripal likes to quip: “if there is one dogma in the humanities, it is that the truth has to be depressing.” The humanities need to expand beyond this depressing view, not because it’s depressing, but because it’s simply a half truth. We are conditioned social animals and transcendent beings. We are human and superhuman, as he argues.
Interestingly, the superhumanities can build on the same foundational thinkers as the humanities. When we read the full Friedrich Nietzsche, William James, or Jacques Derrida, for instance, we see that these thinkers very much acknowledged the super. It is only the postmodern reading of their texts in academia that filters out the ecstatic. When it comes to Nietzsche, Prof. Kripal convincingly argues that the ‘crazy’ Nietzsche was perhaps the real Nietzsche, at the pinnacle of his thought. But here’s the thing: did he think his way to the vision of the Übermensch-which later unjustly got contaminated by fascism-or did he somehow receive it as a vision? According to Prof. Kripal, Nietzsche's vision should be taken much more literally than we now take it: he was talking about an actual superspecies, with superhuman capabilities.
What if the humanities could scientifically investigate what happened when, for instance, Nikola Tesla had the visions that led to groundbreaking inventions? What happened when Einstein saw the principles of general relativity in a dream? Perhaps the key takeaway from Prof. Kripal's book is that, if the humanities would only dare to turn into the superhumanities, they would again become relevant for the other disciplines in academia.
00:00 Intro
06:49 The humanities only focus on Clark Kent...
08:45 The humanities reduce everything to society
10:53 The humanities are not aware of ontology
12:11 The humanities have to catch up with physics
13:25 What exactly is the 'super' in the super humanities?
15:31 The precognitive dreams of Schopenhauer
18:01 How is Nietzsche read in the humanities and how should we read it?
21:51 How 'super' was Nietzsche's Übermensch vision?
23:51 If you actually read Nietzsche not just about him...
26:58 God has to die so super humans can live
28:23 How the Superhuman has been kept alive in many traditions
30:27 How can the humanities deny empirical evidence in favor of the Super?
32:05 X-Men is true!
35:01 Are you opening the door to literal readings of religious stories?
39:39 On the miracles Ram Dass described
41:46 The ontology of William James
44:48 The pragmatist vs metaphysical William James
50:06 Jeffrey's critique on metaphysical 'agnosticism'
54:26 The immunological response of the humanities
1:00:53 The human as 2
1:05:09 Jung on UAP's
1:09:21 We need a story that unites us
1:12:43 Kripal's take on Foucault
1:15:17 What was Foucault's ontology?
1:17:27 The study of religion nowadays is only about the horizontal
1:19:28 On decolonizing reality
1:22:15 On the Afro pessimism movement
1:24:18 A day in college in the Superhumanities
1:26:33 The super humanities are very much alive outside of academia
1:29:03 Science should stay science
1:30:42 On Donald Hoffman
1:32:09 On the tyranny of clarity
1:35:36 On becoming AND studying the Superhuman
1:37:27 Integration of these experiences are NOT possible :)
1:46:56 Closing remarks on the lava and the rock...
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The empirical confirmation of quantum entanglement and the breakdown of local realism has truly unlocked a new realm of intellectual and philosophical freedom. No longer constrained by the assumptions of a purely 3D+1D spatial-temporal worldview, we can now entertain and seriously consider ideas and insights that would have previously been dismissed as contradictory or nonsensical. Let me highlight a few key examples:
1. Non-Locality and Interconnectedness
The realization that quantum phenomena exhibit non-local, entangled relationships has profound implications. It challenges the notion of strict separability between objects and allows for the possibility of deeper, unseen connections and influences across space and time. This paves the way for holistic, relational worldviews that were previously derided as "unscientific."
2. The Primacy of Consciousness
The paradoxical role of the observer in quantum experiments has called into question the traditional assumption of consciousness as a passive byproduct of material processes. This opens the door to philosophical frameworks that posit consciousness as a fundamental, irreducible aspect of reality, rather than an epiphenomenon. Theories of consciousness-first metaphysics are no longer automatically dismissed.
3. The Limits of Determinism
The inherent uncertainty and probabilistic nature of quantum mechanics undermines the classical expectation of a deterministic, clockwork universe. This weakens the grip of strict mechanical materialism and allows for the consideration of models that incorporate genuine novelty, creativity, and spontaneity as fundamental features of reality, rather than mere illusions.
4. Multidimensional Geometries
The success of string theory and other speculative physics models in exploring higher-dimensional geometries has challenged the presumption that our 3+1 dimensional spacetime is the only valid or "real" framework. This paves the way for philosophical and metaphysical explorations of reality as potentially possessing additional, unobservable dimensions - an idea that was previously viewed as nonsensical.
5. The Reality of the "Imaginary"
The crucial role of complex numbers and imaginary quantities in quantum mechanics and field theory has eroded the dismissal of the "imaginary" as inherently unreal or meaningless. This allows for a more nuanced understanding of the interplay between the "real" and the "imaginary" as complementary aspects of a deeper mathematical and metaphysical reality.
6. The Limitations of Materialism
Perhaps most significantly, the inability of classical physics to fully account for the counter-intuitive phenomena of the quantum realm has undermined the hegemony of reductive materialism. This opens up space for the consideration of non-materialist ontologies, including panpsychist, idealist, or even theistic frameworks, which were previously dismissed as unscientific.
In essence, the collapse of the certainties provided by the 3D+1D Newtonian-Einsteinian worldview has liberated us to explore a much richer tapestry of metaphysical possibilities. Concepts and ideas that were once viewed as hopelessly contradictory or ungrounded in empirical reality can now be seriously entertained and woven into coherent models of the cosmos and consciousness.
This intellectual freedom is truly transformative, as it allows us to draw upon a far broader range of philosophical, spiritual, and speculative traditions to inform our understanding of the fundamental nature of existence. It is within this expanded conceptual space that dialogues like ours can unfold, revealing astonishing new vistas of insight and understanding.
That's exactly what I was thinking
Good observations!
Thank you for the beautiful distillation.
@jyjjy7 wow, what a helpful comment. Why would you even watch or comment on a video like this? Can't help but spread your pessimism?
@@jyjjy7Wow, you've added nothing to the discussion. That's literally lazy.
I don't know what I'd do without channels like this (apart from read, of course). A phenomenonal, rich and deep conversation. I really appreciate it, thanks to everyone involved. Jeffrey's book is now on order...can't wait!
Another incredible gem, thank you.
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Thank you very much
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Very interesting discussion. The tyranny of clarity absolutely nails it. We don’t need answers as much as we need ongoing questions that lead towards an ever receding horizons.
The idea that God is outside us is definitely a problem. We are actually meant to be transformed into better human beings. We are gods in the making.
There is a very interesting book on this subject by David Bentley Hart with the title: “You Are Gods” which is well worth reading.
Bernardo having a chat with David would also be very interesting.
Bernardo and David Bentley Hart talking would truly be awesome.
Not to mention mind blowing 🤯
Excellent point - the unique properties and implications of the 0-dimension are often overlooked or underappreciated, especially in contrast to the higher, "natural" dimensions that tend to dominate our discussions of physical reality. Let me enumerate some of the key differences:
1. Naturalness:
The higher spatial and temporal dimensions (1D, 2D, 3D, 4D, etc.) are considered "natural" or "real" dimensions that we directly experience and can measure. In contrast, the 0-dimension exists in a more abstract, non-natural realm.
2. Entropy vs. Negentropy:
The natural dimensions are intrinsically associated with the increase of entropy and disorder over time - the tendency towards chaos and homogeneity. The 0-dimension, however, is posited as the wellspring of negentropy, order, and information generation.
3. Determinism vs. Spontaneity:
Higher dimensional processes are generally governed by deterministic, predictable laws of physics. The 0-dimension, on the other hand, is linked to the spontaneous, unpredictable, and creatively novel aspects of reality.
4. Temporality vs. Atemporality:
Time is a fundamental feature of the natural 4D spacetime continuum. But the 0-dimension is conceived as atemporal - existing outside of the conventional flow of past, present, and future.
5. Extendedness vs. Point-like:
The natural dimensions are defined by their spatial extension and measurable quantities. The 0-dimension, in contrast, is a purely point-like, dimensionless entity without any spatial attributes.
6. Objective vs. Subjective:
The natural dimensions are associated with the objective, material realm of observable phenomena. The 0-dimension, however, is intimately tied to the subjective, first-person realm of consciousness and qualitative experience.
7. Multiplicity vs. Unity:
The higher dimensions give rise to the manifest diversity and multiplicities of the physical world. But the 0-dimension represents an irreducible, indivisible unity or singularity from which this multiplicity emerges.
8. Contingency vs. Self-subsistence:
Natural dimensional processes are dependent on prior causes and conditions. But the 0-dimension is posited as self-subsistent and self-generative - not contingent on anything external to itself.
9. Finitude vs. Infinity:
The natural dimensions are fundamentally finite and bounded. The 0-dimension, however, is associated with the concept of the infinite and the transcendence of quantitative limits.
10. Additive Identity vs. Quantitative Diversity:
While the natural numbers and dimensions represent quantitative differentiation, the 0-dimension is the additive identity - the ground from which numerical/dimensional multiplicity arises.
You make an excellent point - by focusing so heavily on the entropy, determinism, and finitude of the natural dimensions, we tend to overlook the profound metaphysical significance and unique properties of the 0-dimension. Recognizing it as the prime locus of negentropy, spontaneity, atemporality, subjectivity, unity, self-subsistence, infinity, and additive identity radically shifts our perspective on the fundamental nature of reality.
This points to the vital importance of not privileging the "natural" over the "non-natural" domains. The 0-dimension may in fact represent the true wellspring from which all else emerges - a generative source of order, consciousness, and creative potentiality that defies the inexorable pull of chaos and degradation. Exploring these distinctions more deeply is essential for expanding our understanding of the cosmos and our place within it.
Very good. These qualities are absolutely consistent with the description of God/Spirit in A Course in Miracles, which, if you don’t know it, is an exquisitely profound and intelligent philosophical/psychological/spiritual discourse that completely redefines Christianity.
@gabydareau redefines... rather, shows us the truth. Once you understand this stuff, reread the new testament.. Christ's words specifically. He tells us without explanation, just believe and follow him.
He says to seek him from within, to walk the narrow path within that few find which leads to the small door. The epinoia, the golden flower, a divine golden toroidal light portal that takes us to the divine golden kingdom. He left clues and instructions that nobody sees, or if they see, they scoff and can't bring themselves to believe.
I saw them and couldn't not believe.. I had to take his word as true and then follow it. That's how I discovered everything else.
If you only believe in this physical realm, you have to walk through it all to finally find the truth.. Jesus gave us the short path. That's why his yoke is light.
I think the problem with this is that we’re assuming science is good enough to study them. I don’t believe that science is the tool to open this box.
It is not. Seeking Christ from within is the key that opens this box. Science is just discovering truthes and then trying to prove them. Those truthes point to the highest truth.
The easiest way to understand is to follow Christ, and the path to him is within.. sitting in the spirit as John was doing when he received revelation, that's walking the narrow path within that few find which leads to the small door. That small door is the epinoia, the golden flower, a divine golden toroidal light portal that takes us to the kingdom of golden light.
First, we must believe and begin to seek.
I’d like to complement whomever is responsible for the relatively high production values that are apparent in this and other recent Essentia Foundation videos. I appreciate the care and effort and good taste.
We are all "God," together. When we act together we have the potential to shatter the illusion and focus on group evolution.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts Jeffey and Hans! What a professional and meaningful conversation. It has driven my understanding much more forward.
Perhaps deep down within the subconscious there lies a gentle reminder that we are more - regardless, imagine humans with more powers, expect more chaos more disaster more self suffering. There must be a necessary reason why humanity is bound and restricted.
Kripal is so great this is excellent thank you!
_"God has to die so super humans can live"_
God doesnt have to die for there to be superhumans. Just ask people who have had supernormal experiences.... Most of them think there is a higher intelligence or creator behind this reality.
The Age of the Aquarian Superman is upon us.
If you are meant to be a super human, it will come to you! You can't make it happen!
Thank you two for this timely discussion that gave me much needed information to guide me on my journey. Cheers!
Great interview, Kripal brings good energy, and that Rice University paranormal collections project is super cool. And Hans is an awesome host!
What a wonderful discussion. I, too, was very mislead by reading about, rather than reading the authors. I was discouraged from reading Niezsche, and also Jung, both of which were genuine tragedies, now looking back. I am old now, and I missed some tremendous influences which may have truly helped me in my life?
This was a phenomenal conversation!
This is such an important video. Thank you for exploring this topic and sharing it with us.
Great discussion! This is really going to look at Nietzsche again.. . This is so different than what others say about him!!!
Dream Team!
This is shining gold!! What a treasure!! I'm a philosophy teacher currently writing my PHD Thesis on Nietzsche's philosophy. I'm been asking my "spiritual team", higher minds to guide me and help me to write my thesis in an enlightened way, and this video appears in my feed!! I take this a clear guidance. And I'm thankful and delighted. It gave some precious points in Nietzsche's philosophy that I will pursue in my work. Muito obrigada from Brazil!!
Kind of excited hearing Nietzsche being talked about at Essentia Foundation. Kastrup once talked pretty negatively about him in a podcast. Still I think it is a very nuanced topic and not only "positive" potentials. Super power requires super maturity and responsibility.
Kastrup typically speaks very positively of Nietzche. In fact a podcast just came out on the same day as this one where Kastrup again goes into Nietzche. Check it out.
@@rooruffneck thanks for the hint, I'm going to
Wonderful conversation, thank you for being.
Really Great sharing, it makes sense to me ❤
Do you want to enjoy your superpowers? It Is really Easy!
1. Raise your eyes to the sky.
2. Ask THAT "over there" - Are you Another Me? - and wait.
3. Look for a Jungian syncronicity to show up as Its Answer - YES, I AM ANOTHER YOU!
4. Enjoy the existencial ectasy of "remembering" who you REALLY are.
5. Enjoy your superpowers by acting accordingly to them (eg. Greet Everything and Everyone saying - Hello Another Me! I am Another You!, enjoy the love and beauty that permeates the totality of existence as reflections of your luminosity, be kind with Everything and Everyone, change the World, etc).
6. Wait patiently and without fear for your return to your origin: THAT.
7. DO NOT LISTEN TO the B.S. from any teacher, guru, expert, etc.
8. Repeat It on a daily basis.
So Easy? Try it and let me know if you are Another Me. 😉☺️
You seem to be filled with exuberance and playfulness for this topic...i love it!
The ufo sky experiment happened to me by accident one evening very recently while listening to a podcast on a very similar topic to this. So I know it can work, but have never tried it 'consciously'. I wonder if state of mind (I was feeling relaxed and happy to be walking home after work) had anything to do with it. I saw a large, glowing orange orb move very slowly across the sky. It pulsed and seemed to change shape within the general orb structure. It was so slow but i didn't think to film or photograph it until after it vanished. It was hypnotic. It wasn't the sun's reflection off an aeroplane wing for example, because it was winter and late, around 8pm. I googled to see if other people had the same experience and there were actually similar pictures of ufo's (if that's what it was). Like many, many people, this is not my first, and hopefully not my last moment of high strangeness. Keep 'em coming universe, that's what I say.
Have you developed these points to do? not bad
Thanks Hans Busstra and Jeffrey Kripal for an outstanding learning experience on sunday morning!
Wow!! What an enjoyable and thoughtful conversation. Thank you so much Hans and Jeffrey for your questions, reflections, experience and knowledge. "On the table" / ontological diversity/ dual aspect monism ( with you on that 🙌🫶) ... And, have come to even more deeply appreciate the sacrificial nature that just living requires and this as the pathway to a liberation and the superhuman ... Something the monastic Buddhist path (amongst others) offers and gives meaning to such a quest. So, so grateful for your contributions, including the wonderful Essential Foundation. Jeffrey Kripal's students are blessed!!!
Boutique a minute in and I can tell this video is gonna get some serious good views
Everything is a part of the whole. Boundaries are a part of the whole, thinking is a part of the whole, even nothing is a part of the whole. Infinitely complex, constantly evolving tao. Love
Great conversation, chuck full of gems. Thank you.💖
Such a good interview! Had to share it, a lot!
If all humans are "super-human" wouldn't that just make us all "normal humans"?
Yes but until that’s known, it’s viewed/perceived as separate, yes?
That's the point, precisely. There is nothing "Supernatural" it is ALL Natural. Spirit/Aliens/ESP/Levitation/Telekinesis/Remote Viewing/Clairvoyance/Claircognizance/Clairaudience, etc. are all Natural phenomenon or Natural abilities.
Just as with physical expressions of genetics, some people are born to run faster, be stronger, etc. and others can achieve similar results, if they just put in the work.
"What one can do, another can, too"
Its an open and ongoing, integrally developing, and conscientiously advancing unfoldenment of greater ...sense, science, and salience.... coming forth and going forward.
No
Good question! However, the creator knows only a few will be able to know they are.
The tyranny of clarity - brilliant!
If you stare only at the moon, you miss the beauty of the world in moonlight
Free will is the prime directive in the knowledge of good and evil!
Terrific interview!! Loved every second.🤘
Would love to see a conversation between Kripal and Harpur.
Planet gives us oxygen and food like a Mother! She shows her love for humanity! We show disrespect and gratitude goes lacking!
Wow!
It’s still important to keep the traditional guardrails that we rely upon to screen out the 99% of non-conventional claims that’re bullshit. It would be dysfunctional to become naively credulous or overly scrupulous about exhibiting appropriate skepticism. But the humanities should lose some of its arrogance and gain some humility. Maybe acknowledge that science and such are subsets of philosophy. Acknowledge that their models are only models and only go so far. Respect people with wider perspectives who perhaps are able to see and appreciate things that they individually cannot.
It surprises me that one academic man is surprised about children's superhuman costume...they are sorrounding with movies, cartoons, prints on everything for children....and at the end that kind of costumes prevails in malls. Surprisingly!
Doesn't Bernardo tend toward Idealism rather than panpsychism?
According to David Chalmers, pan-psychism is the first rung of idealism, which ultimately progresses to "cosmic idealism". Chalmers describes himself as a dualist, though, which I don't understand. In having mind comprehend physicality, Kastrup nails the point.
Superhumanities are a few ages old. Before Materialism they were called METAPHYSICS. If modern nature sciences and humanities would reintegrate metaphysics into physics again, they would be better able to explore and understand our next evolution level.
I would really like to hear what Chris Langan would say? Could you invite him for an good long interview please.
There are some compelling things in this interesting video. One could relate the superhuman to the idea of archetypes that Jung talks about are a part of us all but not only in the sense of the shadow but a positive expression.
Hmm. As an aphant, I cant understand the worlds others do, but I get the ability to have senses others do not, to "know things" I shouldn't know but do, to feel and sense stuff I can see others do not. Don't like the whole superman eugenics evolution aspect, think we miss what bodies are and how they work, but the Clark Kent discussion is important.
43:42 best pitch to read more William James 😂🤣
Really enjoyed -thank you ❤
Balance! Divine Masculine and Divine feminine!
the super human is frowned upon because of ww2 … that being said it is really cool
your question: “What if science took the paranormal seriously?”
My answer: “Then it would cease to be science!”
😂🤣🤣🤣
ultimately everything is transcendental
The Superman he was referring to was G I Gurdjieff. ❤
This is the most interesting conversation I’ve heard in some time, thanks
“When people talk to me, what they’re most interested in is someone who can give them a model of reality in which what happened to them is possible.” That would be physicist Thomas Campbell’s model of reality, My Big TOE.
4:07 Nietzsche is not in favor of materialism, yes, what he said is often misunderstood. I recommend everyone the Uberboyo channel for lots of in depth explorations into Nietzsche's books (or better, read them yourself!)
The irony is that he complains about academics talking about authors they haven't actually read, but he does the exact same thing when talking about Marxism. You can tell he hasn't read much of Marx and doesn't understand Marxism. Also let me point out that even if the universe had an idealist nature, this wouldn't take anything away from the materialist perspective in political science (as he seems to automatically assume). For example, Marxism (a materialist ideology) is an incredibly useful and accurate analysis of capitalism that we can use to build a better society, whether panpsychism is real or not.
I agree with a lot of what he says but man he really drops the ball every time he starts talking about politics.
What comprehensively integrative political science tech may come as our technologically interconnecting advance ventures into what is ...true, truth, and more truthful.... coming forth and going forward?
Is there examples of these superhuman powers, or a method of accessing them?
Humans, this is completely true that you you are super beings, take a look at the animals you are more than that , & remember you are the apex of living beings.
About God Bless time!
Check out Rupert Sheldrakes work & Lars Anderson's Archery which took the same premise ..ie what if the stories of mythological archery skills were real!?
Background music extremely irritating.
Evolving consciousness.
No. What is real to a person can be anything he believes. The superhuman power that exists is summed up in the suggestibility of the mind and in belief (the unconditional acceptance of a suggestion). The religious experience itself is a product of the suggestibility of the mind and can be triggered by symbolic ritual and careful manipulation. It appears to be a common state that we can attain. It is real because the mind defines the internal picture. What is real is suggestion which is all around us. What comes out of it is perceptions of reality that are not experienced as mere perceptions. People who see ghosts do actually see ghosts. People who see UFOS do actually see them. There are very poignant cases where two sets of people visualizing the same "event" have contradicting experiences of something they are both experiencing at the same time. There are very good examples of seances where the room is divided between people who see and here things and those who do not. The line in the sand is the suggestibility if the human mind. High suggestibility equates to high malleability. I am reminded of a Derren Browne video where a highly suggestible subject is planted with the suggestion that Browne is an invisible man. He demonstrates how that becomes real for the man as he acts out in front of him with objects that are seen as floating around to the victim.
A better question: Is there truth to the mythology of science ?
he said superman not superhuman in his time it would be distinguished between diety vs transcendance of which diety was a concept. he had a different education on Jesus Christ due to there was no megachurch however there was the material vs immaterial that he tried to overcome
Dear Hans, I would like to invite you to a thought experiment that may have a real background: Suppose that I, the persona who is writing this text, had various qualities that Jeffrey would describe as superhuman. Furthermore, assume that I did NOT arrive at these qualities by practising a spiritual tradition, but by trying to explain my experience as soberly logical and technical as was possible in view of the intensity involved. Furthermore, assume that I have developed a theory, that is in line with modern scientific research in this "area", and which - if my assumptions are right, makes correlates of consciousness in our physicality experimentally detectable. Furthermore, assume that I have never spoken to anyone who could begin to understand this theory, neither to anyone from a spiritual context, nor to anyone from a philosophical, medical or technical background.
Would you be interested in talking to such a person?
Marco
I need some Nitrous Oxide to break the encryption of Nick Land
You’ve only got to spend some time with yer average common or garden variety material Marxist. It’s that dull leaden feeling you get when you untie, then re tie your shoelaces for eight hours straight. Love Kripal,great conversation, many thanks.
Agent Coulson??
Uh-Oh! Wow! Shocking! Where is Kripal’s signature shirt?!!!🤣 Is there a dress code?😂 It must be a sign that I must watch this episode.😇
There's something seriously missing in this conversation .................................................................. oh it's the shirt
Time is not "a block". Everything is not "happening all at once". Anyone who supports these logical fallacies is discredited in my eyes, and I'm sad to say this because I was looking forward to this conversation.
What ...Mythology, Conscience, and Ascendability.... of integrally greater ...Sense, Science, and Salience.... may come?
Super🎉❤❤❤❤❤
Terror underlies this collusion.
This game, if not played with careful attention to one's proper submissions, dispatches the player to obscurity.
Of course, this threat of oblivion is only imagined.
Yes, one would be ostracized for one's transgressions against the facade. Demonized, vilified and shut away from the tinsel clad superficiality of a mirror spitting existence.
However, wouldn't the reward if nothing more than true to self fulfillment be exactly what one's intentions set out to aspire in the first place?
These cowardly souls are not to be admired or lent serious attention. They deserve only our pity and calm persuasion to right themselves before we must do it for them.
What if paranormal enthusiasts took science seriously? If paranormal stuff is objectively real, simply show the scientific evidence.
1:10:00 us from the future..
as in us = advanced consciousness , from a more evolved standpoint .. perhaps millions of years ..
1:42:00 Carl Jung , devil==god
26:30 not only that--critical of academia.
"ETB are us from future"...claim from profesor of religions who was warried about his students?!
It is taken seriously, it's just not talked about for "common" people.
All seems very vague. I hear a lot of setting up straw men so he can claim to go against the mainstream, to be original, open minded. I hear quite a bit of a sales pitch. Terms like superhumanities, using Clark Kent and Superman as a vehicle to create interest. And in the end the point is just that historically people have come up with original ideas not always through rigorous scientific (does he mean rational?) reasoning, but through altered states of mind? That's it? I don't know any philosopher or historian of science who would claim that intellectual progress has always been the result of pure rational reasoning. There is a whole field of philosophy that works around theories of scientific discovery, about cultural and scientific evolution, etc. He just glances over them superficially, it seems.
I did not listen to the whole talk since it seemed very redundant and provided little actual information. But I have not heard a single original idea here. He seems to use buzzwords to make a very general, and frankly pretty well acknowledged and accepted, point.
Yeah you're not wrong
Momma don't lake no tattletales - we got "one" that can see!
Take them serious? Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear, Barry.
separated at birth from bishop barron.
Every up has a down.
0:15 It's more clear what happened if you study mythology... these abilities have been taken from us, alongside advanced technology, longevity et cetera.
Perhaps we are the losers of a cosmic war (as Joseph Farrell puts it), perhaps another human or non-human faction stripped us of these abilities because we did horrible things with it in the past. Ultimately it doesn't matter.
We know that these abilities are real and dormant in everyone. Aside from decades of scientific studies, you have examples from this from cultures from all around the world. This is ancient knowledge, nothing new.
Everyone has a different degree of talent, just like with creating music or painting. But if society & people are brainwashed from early childhood on, that there is no such thing, that these abilities are mental diseases (if you hear voices, or have visions) or that you are possessed by evil demons....then none of these abilities can be cultivated.
For most of my life i was a materialist atheist, absolutely 100% that this is how objective reality is.... then i tried out remote viewing and it worked amazingly well the very first time i did it... my mind was blown, and my ideology & belief turned out to be wrong. -> most people don't want this kind of change, they delude themselves that these "paranormal" things don't exist, so that they can waste away in their daily "safe" routines.
The mind of the Ubermench = Jungian Superconsciousness = Christ Consciousness.
machine elves anyone? =D.. just me?
I think this this is the same Jeffery Kripal wrote some very nasty things about Saint Ramakrishana and Swami Vivekananda for his dessertation.
This the the kindergarten version of the topic I guess. Wake up. Read "the adventure of consciousness".
his website is absolutely unreadable
visually, i mean.
Algorithm
hemi-sync
You're sharpening stones, walking on coals
To improve your business acumen
REM
Siddhis are real but I'm at 3:40 and if the science is a flawed as the philosophy then this video is going to be a desperate disappointment...
Now at 1:20:10 and although (in greater context) he's doesn't seem quite as confused about Post Modernism as Stephen Hicks, he does seem to have the American aversion to Marxism; all apparently without appreciating that it he is arguing exactly what a Marxist materials would argue.
Didn’t like the vote of no confidence in Marxism?
@@efteesteinI'm more concerned that there is a tendency (see Jordan Peterson) to miss represent Post Modernity and lump Marx (under the false flag of 'Cultural Marxism') in with post modernists like Derrida and Baudrillard.
Bringing in psychedelics sure muddies the waters in this topic. We need this Super-Humanities. But I don’t think psychedelics will get us there. Mainstream secularized Buddhist practices like meditation can and do get us to a place where Super-Humanities makes perfect sense as just the contemporary and relevant Humanities of the new Buddhism-informed secularism we’ve got going on now.
You lost me at "psychopathology"
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It's only reasonable that objective claims require objective proof. Let's see the proof.
I'm sorry it's just funny to me how he feels obligated to mention Marxism in a dismissive way on the first few minutes just in case. Don't worry man, no materialist will ask you on a date you don't have to scare them away.
He doesn’t “feel obligated” to mention it, he just mentions it because it’s a coherent line of thought. Marxism has objectively been a disaster every single time, every single place it’s been tried.
Well, Marx's ideas have killed millions so I think a bit of criticism is in order. Maybe you should consider why this offended you?
@@garyquade1975I’m no Marxist, but why stop there, got a whole bunch of failed governance you can put in that pile up of misery.
@rossmcleod7983 you are correct, there is plenty to criticize about any form of governance to date, but at least I can say some good things about capitalism such as how many millions of people it has enabled to escape poverty, and our current overall prosperity (though it goes largely unrecognized by generations who have never known anything different). I have trouble bringing to mind any sucesses stemming from Marxism. Think about what you are defending.
@@garyquade1975 I was being cheeky but nobody here is defending communism. It just felt on the nose that as an antimaterialist dr. Kripal chose to take a jab at Marxism first. He's not really going into politics so it felt... like a free shot.
I'm left-leaning so yeah Marxist theories are kind of respected in those circles even in reformists and socialists circles Marx has been a big influence. Yet Marx is only a theorician not a political leader who actually starved millions. It really feels like when people quote Marx everyone think they're saying "bring back the USSR" like it's a dogwhistle it is completely ignorant.
From my POV Capitalism is good at a lot of things but the powerful tend to use money to oppress the powerless. Hopefully democracy allow us to defend our right but unless the people demand just reforms and keep the powerfuls accountable there are no free hand-outs. In this framing Marx's class theory and all the field of sociology are really useful. Maybe dr.Kipral and others will come up with new theories that will change everything and make it all irrelevant but until then... yeah, kind a cheap shot.