You showed me this stuff a long while back and I still use it. Really made a difference in my jumping. Nice to see a really accessible video for anyone to be able to get started the same way.
Btw the original Jump_Academy Ctap tall has clipping on the ground making the "perfect" ctap height easier to hit. While it's still close at only around 10U~ it's still probably better focus on perfect ctaps via Jump_Tapdance and it's training course.
I am very good at ctapping and have been doing it consistently and automatically for years. It really is torture trying to burn a small-time-window action like that into your muscle memory when you don't really know how wide that window is yet. And while you haven't learned it, it makes you worse if you try to do it in pubs. But you eventually will get through that. It helps that you can get partial results still if your timing is not perfect
just a couple clarifications: 1. unfortunately in order to get max power from your rockets consistently you should *never* jump and shoot at the same time, the only reason youre able to make it to the top of the ja tower is, like soala mentioned the ground is clipped, but also because of "desync" where the player doesnt get their position updated on random ticks. This is fixed on the tempus servers for instance, so getting max height ctaps is impossible on those servers with this script. That being said, for normal pvp gameplay this script will be fine, and likely the most consistent. If you do want a more optimal script, the most simple one is probably this script: bind key "+duck 1;-duck 1;+jump 1;-jump 1" you can just bind this to mouse 2 and then to get max height ctap you would shoot then press m2 right after (to be exact 2 ticks later)
This video is such a gem I didn't realise how big of a different it made till I enabled the script I used to think I was always ctapping. Thanks man ;)
The bind i use for ctap’s are from donovin, his command auto links the crouch, release and jump all on one key, i personally like it just thought i should bring it up :)
@@DixaN66 Both of these scripts are kind of doing the same thing. I tested out Bon_Gripper's script and the difference is their code makes you crouch and jump by hitting mouse 2 where as my code makes you jump only after you've hit mouse 2 then you jump on hitting mouse 1. I still prefer my code over Bon Gipper's because I feel like the timings flow better for me. It feels like your smashing both mouse 2 and 1 at the same time with Bon_Gripper's method which was messing up my aim. IMO you should stick with the code I listed in the description.
I changed "alias +ctap_rj "-duck; +jump; +ctap_attack"" to "alias +ctap_rj "-duck; +ctap_attack; wait 4; +jump;"" and it feels pretty good :). Ty for idea very cool.
Ctap binds with wait commands can be illegal depending on server/competitive organized. There are waitless scripts out there (without firing) that will keep you out of trouble if that's somewhere you play.
For some reason, it doesn't work for me so I'll list down what I did in order. Firstly, I unbinded all my keys because I was not sure what presets/scripts I had in my tf2. Then, I downloaded from master com tf2 but for some reason, only the custom folder appeared in tf, with cfg being missing. I'm not sure why this happened. Next, I tried to do it manually, creating a text document for all 9 classes and copy and pasting the scripts accordingly. Then, I checked file extensions and removed the txt from the name of the documents. However, this also did not work. I'm kinda lost since I don't know what is causing this problem. If you could help me, it would be greatly appreciated. (I'm an aspiring soldier who seems to be stuck on jump_competitive).
Id like to use this but it feels wrong to use a script to gain an advantage in actual pvp. You get way more out of your rocket jump with less effort than someone else without a script.
I started using this script because my keyboard was too inconsistent to perfectly sync my jump and fire and it was too taxing on my pinkie finger. This script is also allowed in competitive and is not breaking any rules.
If you feel it's wrong to use a script, you could bind +duck to ALT for ctaps and use CTRL or SHIFT for standard crouching and crouch jumping like this guy ruclips.net/video/Fw0QFVzyNhA/видео.html I can ctap with this method but it's still hard for me to hit that perfect ctap consistently for ceartain jumps so I mean the script still has it's advantages and I used to use one at one time too
Hey idk if you still reply to comments on this video. I have just downloaded your config files to try for myself and quite like it, however how would i go about it to put the start up graphic settings down a bit. Been having stutters mid game whilst using the config. Thanks.
Hey @itsmethek1, if you followed the video by using first downloading a config (comfig.app/app/) you can select a different preset. I suggest medium high in my video but you should give medium low or low a try.
Continuing to use your config cause i like a lot of the stuff, but it seems i cant hear vc what would i change in the config to be able to hear the voice chat@@FrisbeeTF2
with hands i can do max ctap easy, but syncs with script better and for 1st rocket jump. For max high i dont use script,only my hands) Learned how to do ctap without scripts
Hey, was wondering what if I wanna use the cow mangler's M2 attack? (Charged up fireball) Can I have the script to rebind that attack to something else? (Like M3 or M4). THANKS A LOT!!
you can either bind another key to +attack2, like bind mouse4 +attack2 (mouse4 being one of the side buttons) or setup an alias like alias cowmangler "bind mouse1 +attack; bind mouse2 +attack2" and whenver you use the cow mangler type cowmangler in console first.
10:12 C-taps do nothing if you jump from a wall. The reason you get more distance from c-taps is because you force your bounding box closer to the rocket. By shooting a wall, you are already as close to the rocket as you could possibly be. If you jump from a water puddle you don't gain any extra max distance either. It does make the jump timing looser though.
When I say “instead of a ctap” I’m referring to using the ctap method I’ve been demonstrating. You can still use the ctap method of right clicking and left clicking to jump off a wall.
Hey, just a quick question, i do use beggar's sometimes rl, and i want to know if in overrides you could do something where if you are using the beggars bazooka this script would not work, "thanks and have fun" - gaben (NVM, i found out, just dont press m2, thank you, i love this)
beggars should work fine, you just need to hold left click for that. i think the only thing that breaks is cow mangler charged shot and for that you can either bind another key to +attack2, like bind mouse4 +attack2 (mouse4 being one of the side buttons) or setup an alias like alias cowmangler "bind mouse1 +attack; bind mouse2 +attack2" and whenver you use the cow mangler type cowmangler in console first. unfortunately theres no way for the game to know what weapon youre using so theres no fancy way of doing it automatically i think the first solution, binding +attack2 to something else is easiest
you can either bind another key to +attack2, like bind mouse4 +attack2 (mouse4 being one of the side buttons) or setup an alias like alias cowmangler "bind mouse1 +attack; bind mouse2 +attack2" and whenver you use the cow mangler type cowmangler in console first.
@@FrisbeeTF2 I tried to but I'm struggling. I made the cfg files and it's not doing anything... I already had Master config installed and had used their scripting tool so idk if that's overriding the cfg files I made.
Mine still works and was not affected by the 64bit update. When did you notice it stop working and did you make any changes to your config? Are you using a config and if so, which one? Mastercom just released a 64bit update and I would suggest starting from scratch and using that new config and then go through my installation guide again and follow step by step
@@FrisbeeTF2 I had steam uninstalled, and I reinstalled tf2 along with the steps in this video for c tapping. The Masterconfig kinda fixed the problem, everytime I boot up tf2 and click mouse 2, every class crouches when it is only supposed to be soldier, any solutions?
@@dex6360 at around 3:02 in the video I specifically have instructions to fix that specific problem with the gameoverrides file and code. If that doesn’t work, which is should if you’re using the config, I list another way you could fix that problem by adding class.cfgs where you can apply the game overrides code.
This is cheating imo. You can't even do this on jump academy servers. They have script detection that prevents you from doing this. If you want to practice on the JA maps you have to play offline or on a server not hosted by JA. There is a T6 c-tap map called jump_tapdance. It has a great practice area for c-taps. If you do consistent strong normal jumps, it only takes a few hours to learn. When you c-tap, you don't jump as high as a normal jump, so you can just walk against any of the tables in the spawn room on ja classic and practice the timing. If you do it correctly you won't be able to jump up on the tables. If you do it wrong you will jump up on the tables.
This is cap. You can use this script on JA servers and you can use this on the tempus jump servers. This script method is allowed in competitive and in casual. You sir are a liar
@@FrisbeeTF2 I have used a script in the past on tempus and it worked fine, but it didn't work on any JA servers. I couldn't jump at all. Then I deleted the script and I could jump. Maybe they changed it. Or maybe my client broke.
@@rentf2 I guess I understand but this script is allowed in competitive so it’s not like you’re cheating and it makes jumping feel more natural because you’re right clicking and then left clicking to jump instead of trying to crouch with left pinkie, releasing, then syncing your left mouse and hitting spacebar with your thumb. I kept having issues syncing my spacebar and left click because of the quality of my keyboard. If you have issues consistently hitting a ctap, I would suggest giving this method a try
I'm baffled at the fact you used almost every artwork that I made and it all works together in here. Great video as always man keep it up!
You showed me this stuff a long while back and I still use it. Really made a difference in my jumping. Nice to see a really accessible video for anyone to be able to get started the same way.
🙏🙏🙏😌😌
Btw the original Jump_Academy Ctap tall has clipping on the ground making the "perfect" ctap height easier to hit.
While it's still close at only around 10U~ it's still probably better focus on perfect ctaps via Jump_Tapdance and it's training course.
Is this also true for the academy 2 tap wall??
Loved this. You sir have rightfully earned my subscription:)
I am very good at ctapping and have been doing it consistently and automatically for years.
It really is torture trying to burn a small-time-window action like that into your muscle memory when you don't really know how wide that window is yet.
And while you haven't learned it, it makes you worse if you try to do it in pubs.
But you eventually will get through that. It helps that you can get partial results still if your timing is not perfect
Love your vids frisbee, keep it up
just a couple clarifications:
1. unfortunately in order to get max power from your rockets consistently you should *never* jump and shoot at the same time, the only reason youre able to make it to the top of the ja tower is, like soala mentioned the ground is clipped, but also because of "desync" where the player doesnt get their position updated on random ticks. This is fixed on the tempus servers for instance, so getting max height ctaps is impossible on those servers with this script.
That being said, for normal pvp gameplay this script will be fine, and likely the most consistent. If you do want a more optimal script, the most simple one is probably this script:
bind key "+duck 1;-duck 1;+jump 1;-jump 1"
you can just bind this to mouse 2 and then to get max height ctap you would shoot then press m2 right after (to be exact 2 ticks later)
Great video, you're a natural!
🙏🙏🙏🙏thanks dude!!
This video is such a gem I didn't realise how big of a different it made till I enabled the script I used to think I was always ctapping. Thanks man ;)
dude this tutorial was great i learned a lot its not like other tutorials this was really great thanks
🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Now I know why some soldiers jump when they shoot at you, I thought it was part of the "aesthetic"
This Config helps me a lot! Thanks
The bind i use for ctap’s are from donovin, his command auto links the crouch, release and jump all on one key, i personally like it just thought i should bring it up :)
Thanks for the heads up! Any chance you could send me that script so I can compare? My discord is frisbee1
For anyone else who wants it!
alias "+ctap" "+duck 1; -duck 1; +jump 1; -jump 1" bind [key] "+ctap 1"
@@Bon__Gripper Should I put it insted of the script in the description? And what's the benefit here?
@@DixaN66 Both of these scripts are kind of doing the same thing. I tested out Bon_Gripper's script and the difference is their code makes you crouch and jump by hitting mouse 2 where as my code makes you jump only after you've hit mouse 2 then you jump on hitting mouse 1. I still prefer my code over Bon Gipper's because I feel like the timings flow better for me. It feels like your smashing both mouse 2 and 1 at the same time with Bon_Gripper's method which was messing up my aim.
IMO you should stick with the code I listed in the description.
Another great choice for practicing ctaps would be the training area of jump_tapdance for anyone wondering
Yep. Note: 691 on tapdance requires an 85-88 degree angle (cl_showpos 1); you can't just look straight down (89 degrees).
hey thanks a lot man
nice guide keep it up
thx m8, love u bro)
Super happy to hear this helped you!!
Thank you for giving me a way to finally not have to constantly sacrifice my hand just to do a larger jump
@@Grekel I KNOW!!! Right click left click should be the default!! After 200,000+ rocket jumps can confirm
I changed "alias +ctap_rj "-duck; +jump; +ctap_attack"" to "alias +ctap_rj "-duck; +ctap_attack; wait 4; +jump;"" and it feels pretty good :). Ty for idea very cool.
Ctap binds with wait commands can be illegal depending on server/competitive organized. There are waitless scripts out there (without firing) that will keep you out of trouble if that's somewhere you play.
For some reason, it doesn't work for me so I'll list down what I did in order. Firstly, I unbinded all my keys because I was not sure what presets/scripts I had in my tf2. Then, I downloaded from master com tf2 but for some reason, only the custom folder appeared in tf, with cfg being missing. I'm not sure why this happened. Next, I tried to do it manually, creating a text document for all 9 classes and copy and pasting the scripts accordingly. Then, I checked file extensions and removed the txt from the name of the documents. However, this also did not work. I'm kinda lost since I don't know what is causing this problem. If you could help me, it would be greatly appreciated. (I'm an aspiring soldier who seems to be stuck on jump_competitive).
How would you go about creating a cfg file for the rest of the classes when you change class to turn off the script?
your test worked :) (i think, more guides please yes? :O )
Great to hear and will do! Anything in particular you’d like to see?
Frisbee I really like your video keep up the good work! I have a question Is it bannable in comp/casual or is it safe to use?
does not work for waters or let me crouch to wall shots
STAWP TEACHING BAD HABITS FEMBOY HMPH~
I used this technique in invite
Id like to use this but it feels wrong to use a script to gain an advantage in actual pvp. You get way more out of your rocket jump with less effort than someone else without a script.
I started using this script because my keyboard was too inconsistent to perfectly sync my jump and fire and it was too taxing on my pinkie finger. This script is also allowed in competitive and is not breaking any rules.
It’s just a bit cringe
If you feel it's wrong to use a script, you could bind +duck to ALT for ctaps and use CTRL or SHIFT for standard crouching and crouch jumping like this guy
ruclips.net/video/Fw0QFVzyNhA/видео.html
I can ctap with this method but it's still hard for me to hit that perfect ctap consistently for ceartain jumps so I mean the script still has it's advantages and I used to use one at one time too
Hey idk if you still reply to comments on this video. I have just downloaded your config files to try for myself and quite like it, however how would i go about it to put the start up graphic settings down a bit. Been having stutters mid game whilst using the config. Thanks.
Hey @itsmethek1, if you followed the video by using first downloading a config (comfig.app/app/) you can select a different preset. I suggest medium high in my video but you should give medium low or low a try.
Continuing to use your config cause i like a lot of the stuff, but it seems i cant hear vc what would i change in the config to be able to hear the voice chat@@FrisbeeTF2
with hands i can do max ctap easy, but syncs with script better and for 1st rocket jump. For max high i dont use script,only my hands)
Learned how to do ctap without scripts
Hey, was wondering what if I wanna use the cow mangler's M2 attack? (Charged up fireball) Can I have the script to rebind that attack to something else? (Like M3 or M4). THANKS A LOT!!
you can either bind another key to +attack2, like bind mouse4 +attack2 (mouse4 being one of the side buttons) or setup an alias like alias cowmangler "bind mouse1 +attack; bind mouse2 +attack2" and whenver you use the cow mangler type cowmangler in console first.
@@FrisbeeTF2 Hey man! Thank you so much. CHEERS! Merry Xmas!
Hi is it working ? Because I do everything whats in the video but when I launch the game it doesnt work
same thing
10:12 C-taps do nothing if you jump from a wall. The reason you get more distance from c-taps is because you force your bounding box closer to the rocket. By shooting a wall, you are already as close to the rocket as you could possibly be.
If you jump from a water puddle you don't gain any extra max distance either. It does make the jump timing looser though.
When I say “instead of a ctap” I’m referring to using the ctap method I’ve been demonstrating. You can still use the ctap method of right clicking and left clicking to jump off a wall.
@@FrisbeeTF2 You can, but you don't gain anything from it.
how do you get your original to not have the hand on the side with such a high fov?
@@SolarIDK I made a video on how to get rid of that left hand: ruclips.net/video/Uf1XcHZ_mF0/видео.htmlsi=NY4I9gKSzsxSuVxS
binding right click to duck is basically a ctap script
Hey, just a quick question, i do use beggar's sometimes rl, and i want to know if in overrides you could do something where if you are using the beggars bazooka this script would not work, "thanks and have fun" - gaben
(NVM, i found out, just dont press m2, thank you, i love this)
I'll look into it and get back to you!
beggars should work fine, you just need to hold left click for that. i think the only thing that breaks is cow mangler charged shot and for that you can either bind another key to +attack2, like bind mouse4 +attack2 (mouse4 being one of the side buttons) or setup an alias like alias cowmangler "bind mouse1 +attack; bind mouse2 +attack2" and whenver you use the cow mangler type cowmangler in console first. unfortunately theres no way for the game to know what weapon youre using so theres no fancy way of doing it automatically i think the first solution, binding +attack2 to something else is easiest
i can't use the second attack on the cow mangler :/
you can either bind another key to +attack2, like bind mouse4 +attack2 (mouse4 being one of the side buttons) or setup an alias like alias cowmangler "bind mouse1 +attack; bind mouse2 +attack2" and whenver you use the cow mangler type cowmangler in console first.
CTAP SCRIPT IS UNDERRATED
i dowload no folder cfg . only folder custom And it doesn't work. What should I do?
Rewatch the installation section and follow my instructions step by step
If that doesn't work, here's a link to my config:
www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/qbia87tsmvegyjxz1afrt/h?rlkey=49eppqgyuaqvxrgik6p9zkowo&dl=0
good thx
@@FrisbeeTF2
As you play/ have played competitive, is it banned somewhere? At least somewhere in comp, other casual or community maps I don't really care
It’s not banned in RGL, the only league I’ve played in.
@@FrisbeeTF2 Ty
funnily enough my M2 is crouch in most shooters
Nice! Incorporating this would be so easy for you!
@@FrisbeeTF2 I tried to but I'm struggling. I made the cfg files and it's not doing anything... I already had Master config installed and had used their scripting tool so idk if that's overriding the cfg files I made.
@@FrisbeeTF2what's the number after your username? Also I really appreciate your willingness to help
@@FrisbeeTF2 lol my bad forgot they did away with that
this method is so incredibly weird and uncomfortable, holy alien
ye read the rellort comment, its useful and you dont need a config
are ctap binds allowed on all servers?
Yes
Does this still work? It is not working for me anymore.
Mine still works and was not affected by the 64bit update. When did you notice it stop working and did you make any changes to your config? Are you using a config and if so, which one? Mastercom just released a 64bit update and I would suggest starting from scratch and using that new config and then go through my installation guide again and follow step by step
github.com/mastercomfig/mastercomfig/releases/tag/9.10.3
@@FrisbeeTF2 I had steam uninstalled, and I reinstalled tf2 along with the steps in this video for c tapping. The Masterconfig kinda fixed the problem, everytime I boot up tf2 and click mouse 2, every class crouches when it is only supposed to be soldier, any solutions?
@@dex6360 at around 3:02 in the video I specifically have instructions to fix that specific problem with the gameoverrides file and code. If that doesn’t work, which is should if you’re using the config, I list another way you could fix that problem by adding class.cfgs where you can apply the game overrides code.
@@FrisbeeTF2 ok, thanks. I also have a problem where ill switch classes and my guns will keep automatically firing without holding mouse 1.
Any fix?
This is cheating imo. You can't even do this on jump academy servers. They have script detection that prevents you from doing this. If you want to practice on the JA maps you have to play offline or on a server not hosted by JA.
There is a T6 c-tap map called jump_tapdance. It has a great practice area for c-taps. If you do consistent strong normal jumps, it only takes a few hours to learn.
When you c-tap, you don't jump as high as a normal jump, so you can just walk against any of the tables in the spawn room on ja classic and practice the timing. If you do it correctly you won't be able to jump up on the tables. If you do it wrong you will jump up on the tables.
This is cap. You can use this script on JA servers and you can use this on the tempus jump servers. This script method is allowed in competitive and in casual.
You sir are a liar
@@FrisbeeTF2 I have used a script in the past on tempus and it worked fine, but it didn't work on any JA servers. I couldn't jump at all. Then I deleted the script and I could jump. Maybe they changed it. Or maybe my client broke.
Simply, no
when you tried this method, what didn't you like?
@@FrisbeeTF2 doesnt feel natural or legit at all, i wanna ctap without a script
@@rentf2 I guess I understand but this script is allowed in competitive so it’s not like you’re cheating and it makes jumping feel more natural because you’re right clicking and then left clicking to jump instead of trying to crouch with left pinkie, releasing, then syncing your left mouse and hitting spacebar with your thumb. I kept having issues syncing my spacebar and left click because of the quality of my keyboard.
If you have issues consistently hitting a ctap, I would suggest giving this method a try