Hello Mark, my you do have a long one, I notced, a few more anglers are useing longer rods, the river looks perfect, very nice video mate, all the best mate.
That is pretty much what happened with this rod although the Daiwa rod that my mate bought is now in my possession and is better for palying big fish; I've had good tench and bream on it.
I have a Tri Cast John Allerton 18-20 foot rod, and I can use it for an hour or two at a time without it being unduly tiring. I am not a fan of sliding floats, so I mainly use it in deep river swims. I suspect that improvements in carbon fibre technology have made long rods much easier to use since the nineties. Once thing I have noticed when using it is that bites are often felt through the rod tip, as well as seeing the float go under.
By far the best long rod I've handled was the 17' Carbotec No. 1 (there was a No. 2 model as well) which was phenominal but I couldn't justify the £550 price tag. I'd love a dabble with the Allerton 15' rod.
I have a 15ft Shimano that I've used on the Test and I can hold that for a few hours, no problem. But I also have a Middy 16-18ft and at 18 it is a pig of a rod to use. At 16ft it can be used for a short period, but still best if it can be left in a rest and only lift it when you have a bite. It does have two tops though, one for average fish and one for c***. ☹
i used a mitchell match for a while..great in its day..but after a few heinous bail arm tangles...i went closed face.. just wind it quicker if you want fast retrieve.... just a pleasure fisher nowdays on the many day ticket carp ponds in kent .. i still pick a pool with mixed fish and attack it like its a match not worrying what bites just enjoy the day,, and now use a £25 mitchell reel with a match spool..normal bail arm..works perfect..
The Acolyte 17' is an absolute doddle to fish with and has a different action to the Ultra and Plus models, making it far superior IMO. I also own an ABU Suveran 16/18 which is beautifully made but would be better suited to a role as an acrow or pit-prop.
There's a reasonable head of fish on some venues, chub to around 4lbs, most roach are on the small side though pounders in small pockets - you'd have to be incredibly lucky to find a 2lber these days, though odd ones on the lower Stour. I'm saddened by the impact of cormorants that have made a lot of water sparsely populated with fish, with dace being particularly hard hit.
I've always thought the standard Match to be about right. When I bought the 840 with the 6:1 ratio I swapped it for a new 440 though I have acquired an 840 much more recently.
I have only seen one on the bank and that was a 16ft rod which wasn't enough to make any judgement. I understand the range sort of takes over where Shakespeare left off (the Cadence designer came from Shakespeare) and I suspect that most of the range provide good value rods for most float fishing scenarios as have Shakespeare over the decades. Although I haven't bought many Shakespeare rods over the decades I'm aware that some of their rods have been absolute crackers and usually at sensible prices.
Thanks for the mention on the last video Mark
No problem 👍
Hello Mark, my you do have a long one, I notced, a few more anglers are useing longer rods, the river looks perfect, very nice video mate, all the best mate.
I to got one in the 90s,Unmanageable at 20ft,and a struggle at 18ft,and I consigned mine to Still water fishing for Crucians and a Pole float!
That is pretty much what happened with this rod although the Daiwa rod that my mate bought is now in my possession and is better for palying big fish; I've had good tench and bream on it.
I have a Tri Cast John Allerton 18-20 foot rod, and I can use it for an hour or two at a time without it being unduly tiring. I am not a fan of sliding floats, so I mainly use it in deep river swims. I suspect that improvements in carbon fibre technology have made long rods much easier to use since the nineties. Once thing I have noticed when using it is that bites are often felt through the rod tip, as well as seeing the float go under.
By far the best long rod I've handled was the 17' Carbotec No. 1 (there was a No. 2 model as well) which was phenominal but I couldn't justify the £550 price tag. I'd love a dabble with the Allerton 15' rod.
Blimey Mark, I have one of the Shakespeares and haven’t used it in years! I’ll have to give it a go.
Build your arm muscles up beforehand!
I have the cadence 15ft rod. Such a beautiful rod and light to hold.
Which model is that?
Cadence cr10#1
Thank you.
Yeah, I have one and you wouldn't think it was 15'.
I have a 15ft Shimano that I've used on the Test and I can hold that for a few hours, no problem. But I also have a Middy 16-18ft and at 18 it is a pig of a rod to use. At 16ft it can be used for a short period, but still best if it can be left in a rest and only lift it when you have a bite. It does have two tops though, one for average fish and one for c***. ☹
i used a mitchell match for a while..great in its day..but after a few heinous bail arm tangles...i went closed face.. just wind it quicker if you want fast retrieve.... just a pleasure fisher nowdays on the many day ticket carp ponds in kent .. i still pick a pool with mixed fish and attack it like its a match not worrying what bites just enjoy the day,, and now use a £25 mitchell reel with a match spool..normal bail arm..works perfect..
I guess that nearly 50 years using the Match means it's second nature to me.
The Acolyte 17' is an absolute doddle to fish with and has a different action to the Ultra and Plus models, making it far superior IMO. I also own an ABU Suveran 16/18 which is beautifully made but would be better suited to a role as an acrow or pit-prop.
Very nice video mark.. whats your opinion on the stocks of chub and roach in the upper river these days, in terms of size/weight?
There's a reasonable head of fish on some venues, chub to around 4lbs, most roach are on the small side though pounders in small pockets - you'd have to be incredibly lucky to find a 2lber these days, though odd ones on the lower Stour. I'm saddened by the impact of cormorants that have made a lot of water sparsely populated with fish, with dace being particularly hard hit.
That’s the trouble I found with the Mitchell Match is it’s too faster a retrieve that why I revert to my 331
I've always thought the standard Match to be about right. When I bought the 840 with the 6:1 ratio I swapped it for a new 440 though I have acquired an 840 much more recently.
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Mark, at the risk of being ridiculed, I wonder if you have any thoughts or experience of the Cadence CR10 range of match rods?
I have only seen one on the bank and that was a 16ft rod which wasn't enough to make any judgement. I understand the range sort of takes over where Shakespeare left off (the Cadence designer came from Shakespeare) and I suspect that most of the range provide good value rods for most float fishing scenarios as have Shakespeare over the decades. Although I haven't bought many Shakespeare rods over the decades I'm aware that some of their rods have been absolute crackers and usually at sensible prices.
Excellent rods the CR10 are, I have one
@@MarkWintleFishing Thank you for your comprehensive reply Mark.
@@lusiscus I have one too, and really like it, just wanted an experts opinion because I don't trust my own judgement 🤣
I love a long rod for trotting ,I have the crusader by Normark that’s 18’ nice to use , also the acolyte 17’ float which is superb ,