When To Shift Gears On a Motorcycle Turn-By-Turn (Real World Examples)
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
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Watch this video next on front / rear brake mistakes I see happening ALL... THE... TIME! ruclips.net/video/9uSx9uxu9Cs/видео.htmlsi=4VRzofm0m7xmzJJA
This is probably the best video I've watched on this subject! I've been watching 100s of videos trying to find exact proper ways to gear change, stop and clutch control for beginners. And this is by far the most instructional video. Thanx Petro!
Glad it helped!
Was just going to say this puts me a bit at ease about venturing out to my first gas stop
I don’t recommend using engine braking as you slow/stop, UNLESS you employ some rear or front brake to show your brake light.
Omg this was so helpful! I am a new rider and have learned all of the basics but was having trouble putting them all together to actually be in traffic situations. Thanks so much.
I’m New to Riding ( 1 month Out of The Motorcycle Course ) and I REALLY Appreciate this content !!
This was a highly requested video.. Hope you find it helpful. Any other requests?
Thanks for this brotha. Been riding for years now but still like to brush up on my skills
Your bike is beautiful. New rider here been watching your videos non stop. Been learning a lot. You rock man!
Awesome! Thanks for the support. Any requests I haven’t covered lmk.
This is what i need. just bought my first bike. imma gonna start with the KTM Duke 200. soon after i master the basics, time to switch to higher CC. Thanks to this.
Naaahhhh........
Learn the basics, then learn to ride, then learn to fall off, then learn winter riding, then buy a bigger bike.
YAYYYY IVE BEEN WAITING! Woohooo thanks for this!!!
Two Questions from a basic rider learning:
1.) You demoed a coupled of times that we don't technically need to drop to 1st gear, could we technically do that quite a bit?
2.) What damage could be done if one was to learn to do that all the time?
I love this guy explaining very clear
Thanks for the video. I been looking for something like this for weeks lol
My concern is stalling my bike while making right/left turns if stayed in 2nd or 3rd gear. I do understand that i must dowshift but just incase i miss it. I have made turns in 2nd for the most part and havent had any issues but wanted some peace of mind!!
Great video man!
Wow, I never knew the purpose of the clutch, and how we should use it properly. I don't think you had a chance to advertise how a monster your bike is😂
Love how excited you are about the bike. I think you mentioned it does 92 in first gear...every time you put it into first lol. Beautiful bike congrats! Ride safe. :)
1) Shifting doesn't have a singular formula suitable for all cases. You can shift earlier and keep the revs low when travelling on a highway and let the engine take it easy while you WILL have to keep the revs higher when eating through mountain twisties to make use of engine braking. 2) Engine braking and Shift braking are NOT the same thing!!! Get this well: engine braking is when you close the throttle and the bike slows down naturally because there's no more power at the rear wheel. Shift braking is you downshifting, getting the revs high and -hopefully- closing the throttle. You MUST use engine braking and MUSTN'T use shift braking under any circumstances. 3) Each bike has a unique rev-range that provides the peak torque. Know your bike, read the manual. For my bike it's around 6400-6500 rpm. So for me, shifting sometime between 5500 and 7500 rpm would be good as a rule of thumb. Everything changes in rain/frost/dusty conditions. You should avoid revving high in those conditions to avoid slipping even if your bike has traction control. Never depend on technology to correct your poor riding choices. 4) When downshifting from high gear to the first, you can either do incremental or block downshift. For faster stops, block downshifting may work better while for when you have days to stop, incremental downshifting may be the better option. Either is okay in either case though. So, there's no cut and dried answer for "when should I shift". It depends...
Aw man at 5:20 he missed his chance to hit up that shawty on a scooter to continue the video.
How was he shifting without using the clutch? When he was on the. Freeway
I have Rsv4 2018 model, Holding the clutch while red light is for 120 seconds makes my hand paining, shifting in N is what is do most of the time in dead traffic or Red light
Eid Mubarak Brother
Peace. Thank You. Wondering why my bike clunks into gear. Bleeding the clutch next. Runs Great other than that.
10:03 the white car's wheels look like it's sliding lol
Hi sir, i was wondering if you could make a vid on how to start quickly.
Because i recently started riding and i always start extremely slow.
Also, how did you change gears without using your clutch, gas?
1 more thing ahah, when you stop for a traficlight in 3rd gear, cant you just shift down to first gear while standing still or will that ruin your motorcycle?
Thanks in advance
Explain.. not sure exactly what you mean by ‘start quickly’
@@PetroHead when you stopped at a red light, and it went green, ur bike went fast from the get go. so im wondering on how you did that. sorry if my english is bad, i dont speak it often
I got it. You get better with time.. all about throttle and clutch release. If your comment gets enough likes, I’ll make a video.
@@PetroHead Okay, sorry for the whole paragraph
No worries! 😉
You can shift down gears without the clutch when engine braking?
No his bike has a quick shift
@PetroHead hey, i have a question, how were you able to shift to low gear w/o squeezing or using the clutch? sorry, new to this kind of bikes. just wanna know.
I mentioned I have a quick shifter.
@@PetroHead bro I'm looking at these comments of people generally curious and asking questions and your responses are rude asf u need to fix your attitude bro straight up
I respond appropriately. I genuinely make videos to help people and 99% of the comments speak for themselves but hey, if you want to be specific about something, go ahead and email me and we can discuss. I do like feedback.
@@PWizzleshorts If you think a normal answer is rude you never had real problems in life.
Maybe I'm that much of a noob, but how were you downshifting without your hand on the clutch when you had your hands on the tank? Or is that the point? It's forcing the engine to run lower and cause "engine braking"?
No you just suffer from low attention span. That’s what you get for skipping around.
@@PetroHead I didn't skip around. I watched the video twice. Maybe you should have quit RUclips if this is how you "help" people
Don’t get bitter. I’ve helped millions of people become better and safer riders. If you paid attention, at 00:37 you can find the answer.. maybe 3rd time is a charm..☺️
Im confused when your switching gears why aren't you pressing down the clutch? Arent you supposed to?
U can upshift by placing pressure on the shifter and closing the throttle. But you don't even need to do that because this bike has a quickshifter
Thank you so much...
can i ask about the safest appropriate rpm for cruising 200 miles long distance , and how many miles can i nonstop trip before turning the engine off on 650cc twin cylinder Kawasaki versys 650cc.... no quick shift option for this bike only slipper clutch...
Just new to biking - due to take my CBT here in England next week and I'm confused. At the very beginning of the video, how the hell did you change up to, and then down from third gear without engaging the clutch ??
Already not paying attention.. Maybe work on that first before the CBT.
@@PetroHead Hahaha ! So please enlighten me - what am I missing ?
Watch the video again and this time pay attention.
I have a question and I hope I can explain it the right way... (Scenario), you get it at 6 th gear.. you need a lil more torque... So you squeeze the clutch and step down to go faster.. ok coo from that point.. to slow down and shift gears down.. do you squeeze the clutch and step down to on the brake.. but if you step down to make it go faster... How do make it down shift..again?
Watch the how to ride for beginners video before this one. You skipped ahead.
@@PetroHead clutch in, flip the throttle and push down..pass the nutural, a solid click.
@@PetroHead thanks
Thank You So Much. 🙏🏾
God damn it you’re a good teacher. Can you train me. I just bought a ninja KRT I keep dropping it on slow turns 😢
Thanks keep watching from the playlist and practice.
how many mph does it in 1st gear? I think I missed that
Explain on how a QS work, pls. Unless you already have a video out about it.
First gear needs the clutch to engage, all the other gears can shift without using the clutch. Some bikes have quick up/dn and others only have up. When you clutch less shift, the QS momentarily cuts power to the engine to shift smoothly into gear.
@@PetroHead Absolutely........
Or you can kill the throttle and kick up in the same millisecond for upshifts which also cuts power to the engine. (Needs must, four days with broken clutch cable on Suzuki GS850G! )
Best video !
Does all of the comments you’re making about your 1100 in this video apply to 1000cc as well ?
Not sure what you’re asking.
What does it mean, "the gears are a lot taller"?
a normal bike might go from 0-50mph max in first gear, his will go from 0-92mph so it's 'taller'
How fast does it go in 1st gear😅
Now i wish i should have bought that ninja 400 ..😆 i got a 150 just for the cruising purposes
better to start on a cheap smaller bike so you can practice tight turns and get comfy with low lean angle in a parking lot without being scared about dumping it. Learning on a more expensive bike sucks
How are you shifting up/down without clutch in?
Magic! (This is what you get for skipping around)
I did get drifted for a while watching this video 😅 I'll re-watch from the beginning😂
Thank you
If I’m approaching a stop, is it bad to cruise on neutral until I stop? Technically riding my brakes but I’m just wondering if it’s bad for my transmission
Not bad for trans… but just don’t. Stay in gear.
@@PetroHead thanks bro! RSV4 is my dream bike haha
Never cruise in neutral to a stop. You would want to be in gear, preferably in 1st, in case you'd have to quickly move out of harm's way. Don't even leave it in neutral when you're at a complete stop for that matter.
@@TheSadhizta thanks that makes sense, I knows thought it was bad to just hold the clutch in for that long or whatever
So when do you put it in nuetral @@TheSadhizta
10:03 tire is not rolling
practically nobody learning is gonna be on the same page as this with what gear to be in .. generally with most bikes youll never be in first except when taking off from a dead stop, then, keep it in the highest gear it will pull smoothly from, it will vary by bike and youll go off of feel, not gear# .. i rarely know what gear im in and totally ignore it, i go off of what the bike wants .. listen to it .. again nobody learning has a modified high cc hyper sport bike like this haha .. my stock ninja1000sx will crawl around in slow traffic in 6th gear, according to this guy you should be in first to extract maximum torque haha .. dont ..highest gear its happy with while learning ..
You didnt go through the steps to taking off fast. Drag racing and shifting up from fast takeoff
I plan to make a ‘how to launch’ from a start video one of these days.. the problem is fining a place to do it… for now do a search for drag racing on the channel..
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Petro I’m fina get bike this summer shiid erbody in the comments let’s link and ride tf out. Who down yall.
Lol 😂 I had to read this a few times until I ‘kinda’ understood it.
In a parking lot or gas station stay in 1st gear don’t go up to second .. second is completely unnecessary? 240hp on the street is completely unnecessary 😹
Engine braking nonsense I would rather use brake pads and rotors they are cheaper than gear box
Easy to tell you’ve never ridden a bike in your life. Thanks for watching though.
Im getting an indian ftr 1200s as my first bike🤷♂️🫡 but damn that things mean 🤯
1st gear does 90 holy shit
That’s what I said! Damn
That’s pretty standard for super bikes. My first gen cbr1000rr does the same and it’s about to have its 20th birthday. Can break every speed limit in the US without ever leaving first gear haha
Your first gen will do about 78 mph in first. Even less now considering how much HP it’s prob lost because of age.
@@PetroHead stock gearing is 83 for first. You think it can’t hit rev limiter in the easiest gear cause of its age? lol wut.
Ohhh I see the confusion. I said first gen 1000rr meaning the first proper 1000rr, the sc57. Which is the 7th gen fireblade.
My Hayabusa does 30 km/h to 310 km/h on 6th gear. 😄
Everything I need in one video..my best so far . Good job bro !
240hp? I thought they had 217 at the crank and 190ish at the rear wheel. You should do a Dyno video of that beast. That would be an awesome video
Did I say WHP? It’s tuned.
@@PetroHead Yeah. I get it. 240? Maybe a bit farfetched. I don't think a tune gets you from 217 to 240. Still a cool bike and awesome sound.
these new gen 1100’s push 205whp with exhaust and tune and an additional 23HP with exhaust and tune isn’t exaggerating. 240 -15% = 205 whp (stock 217hp)
That's a fact for sure
@@PetroHeadwith a Grabro tune they will do about 220Hp to the crank and about 205WHp. If you get a stage 3 tune with velocity stack, air filter etc etc you will get a bit more.
I really do appreciate this video it definitely helps a lot since I just bought my first bike yesterday a 2024 Honda CB500F
240 horsepower? You’re exaggerating a bit. I know those bikes and while they are fast, they don’t have 240 horsepower. I have tuned 2021 zx14r (1441cc) and that doesn’t have 240 horsepower. 😂 I know that this video is intended for new riders, I’ve been riding a long time, and while you can. Slow down your bike while down shifting, that puts stress on your engine. Brakes are cheap, engines are expensive.
with tune these 1100’s produce 205 at the wheel. Do the math for crank HP. As for your tips.. this is the internet.. whatever you say.
lol engine braking doesn’t put any notable added wear on your engine. Brakes wear from braking cause that’s how they’re designed to work. The engine does it through entirely different mechanics, and they don’t hurt the engine.
@@revvyishonisd5027 all I,m saying is that brakes were designed to brake and engines were designed to go. Using Compression from the engine is fine while you’re slowing down but clicking down all the gears to a complete stop is not what the engine is for. I already have had a brand new Kawasaki hit the 100,000 mile without a problem. If you are going to replace your bikes every 3 to 4 years, ride it like you stole it. Oil is also cheap so replace it often 👍
@@enyelator1239 engines are designed to pump huge volumes of air under extremely heavy load. You think accelerating at break neck speeds is easier on the engine than decelerating substantially more gently? That’s crazy talk
@@revvyishonisd5027 ok buddy don’t use your brakes. Remember to practice emergency down shifting. 😂
Didn’t realise this is a learners video. All these skills are taught and tested in the U.K. before you can have a license. Nice bike btw.
Must be nice. Here in the U.S. all you got to do is pass a written test and then a driving one including quick stops, swerving cones, u-turns, and counter steering
My little CBR300r gives it everything just to cruise at 80 (hwy speed where I live). It's a ton of fun in the corners but I'm super ready to have more top end power.
Which one would you prefer as a beginner? Slowly shift down to first gear or would it be okay to go full stop, then go to first gear? Wouldnt there be a long term issue with the engine/transmission with the latter?
I need an answer to this as well
If you're coming to a stop, shift down into first gear and just before 1st gear becomes sluggish, pull the clutch to disengage the transmission and come to a gradual stop. (but never pull clutch to disengage transmission without using brakes otherwise, your bike will run away)
@@PetroHeadis this like engine breaking by downshifting ? Or can you still break while downshifting
No, use physical brakes. Never depend on engine breaking.
@PetroHead Absolutely.......
You will experience engine braking as you come down through the gears while braking and that's natural. Just don't kick down from high revs as you'll lock up the back wheel or worse......
Riding a Varadero 125 downhill doing around 60mph coming into a sharp bend and kicked down from fifth to fourth braking hard with a view to hitting third on the way out.
Loud bang and rear wheel locked up as I snapped a rocker arm.
Turned out I was actually in fourth gear which would have been redlining it and kicked into third!!!
THIS is what I’ve been looking for. When coming to a stop, should I hold down the clutch together with my brakes as I come to a stop in 1st gear ? Or should I come to a stop completely and then pull in the clutch ? That’s been confusing me
Clutch + brakes
Thank you for making this video. I'm the one who requested it. I'm still not clear on slowing down. Am I hitting brakes first then shifting down, or shifting down and then hitting brakes, or both at the same time? Thank you for coming back to your channel.
There are 2 answers to that question. 1) IF emergency stopping, forget everything about shifting and doesnt matter what gear youre on, pull the clutch in and apply 50/50 pressure to both back brake and front brake. Make sure you use BOTH brakes, and at the same time and dont jam on them or youll wreck yourself. And 2) For controlled ,everyday proper way of stopping, you SHOULD always downshift first, as downshifting on its own will start to slow you down. Obviously you have to close the throttle a little and everytime you downshift and then try to rev match (open again the throttle a little to match the lower gear's "higher" rpm). And so you need to downshift till you get to 1st and 1st will give you so much stopping torque that it feels natural but you can also stay at 2nd and then just pull in clutch and then brake to a complete stop, THEN you can go to first once stopped. But under normal conditions you should always downshift to 1st ideally and all of this engine braking caused by downshifting, can be further exemplified by applying lightly the brakes too as your down shifting for a quicker stop. But for example when you have impatient cars behind you tailgaiting you and you all come to a stop, I would view that as an emergency stop and you can just hold in clutch and start braking. Sorry for so long of a message but remember that if you use engine braking aka downshifting, always tap the brakes very lightly so that your tail light goes on and cars behind you can see you. VERY important.
@@carlcarlssen4299 Thanks a bunch for this detailed answer. As I am confused about this concept too.
@@ahmedawad563 No prob bro. I like to keep myself reminded of these things as i just started riding again after a 12 yr hiatus and i want to become an instructor.
@@carlcarlssen4299 I wish you the best of luck. You wrote a detailed answer that a complete beginner like myself could understand and apply in the real world, without actually seeing you do it, which says something about your teaching skills.
@@ahmedawad563 I appreciate that brother. Stay safe. P.S. Always be extra vigilant of Teslas around you.
Out of the thousands of videos online this was the first one that I actually commented on regarding motorcycles. As a new 500 ninja rider myself I thought it was like a car that you come to a stop in neutral that you do not go into first gear if you're rolling. Thanks for the information. Stay safe
Just got a new Kawi Z500 SE, andI love it, but I feel like the gear shift indicator flashes really early. It feels like the bike wants to be in sixth gear by the time I hit 50 mph. Do you know why this might be happening? I'm a new rider so I have no idea haha
Don’t really on the technology of the bike. Learn to listen to it and when you should shift. Higher rpm’s always mean to shift. Check out the owners manual, it’ll give you an idea on when to shift at what mphs
If you're still in the break in period it flashes early
if it has the TFT display, hold the 2 buttons on the screen and there should be the option to change the RPM where it tells you to shift
Lane splitting is almost as dumb as riding with no helmet lol
Lane splitting at 10 to 15 mph is fine as you're just manoeuvring through traffic.
Dumb is doing it at 60mph or 70mph.
Been looking for a vid like this for months. Getting a bike next summer and I needed this
As a CRF300L owner with very short gears, it's weird seeing others shift so late. I can shift into 6th gear at 80km/h (50mph) xD
Genuinely the best video on gear shifting out there. I swear the videos on how to ride spent so long on friction zone then just gloss over gear shifting. Thanks so much ❤
So one thing I'm noticing is he's putting around and for those who are learning to try to comprehend when to shift he should not be in third gear putting around reasons why motorcycles are designed to run at high RPMs when they are at low RPMs you are putting more stress on the cylinders this is kind of an onion layer peeled back that most people don't understand
You’re full of nonsense.
@@PetroHead no I'm not
Lower RPMs create the Pistons to push a little harder which can create local hotspots and leave carbon buildups
And if that happens u can get a rough idle that can be caused by carbon, oil residue, or pitting on the spark plug electrodes, which can lead to a weak spark and poor ignition. A clogged air filter can also contribute to a rough idle by preventing enough air from entering the combustion chamber.
These are over extensive periods
Thank god you made this. I've been looking for a video for the past month. Going to my MSF class in August.
Great detail video. Learn quite a bit more about the transmission of the bike. It sounds like a transmission of a car so i should be good with that. Thank for it PetroHead!
So you don’t need to pull the clutch in to slow down in gears? Just some foot break and kick it down? Confused me a little when you didn’t pull it in. Awesome video though👍🏼
Thank you I'm getting a bike here soon. I really needed this.
Does the autoblipper work so well that if you tap your foot quick enough your gear indicator reads like you skipped a gear? At like 10:15, you go down to 4th from 6th & 5th is never seen. It looks like an h pattern shift, but bikes have sequential boxes. Basically I’m asking is the autoblipper just that good & sensitive to your inputs or have you figured telepathy with your bike & you just think of a gear & a single input from your foot puts it in the desired gear?🤣
You’re probably witnessing bits of video being cut and so that’s why it looks the way it does.
Do you not have to pull in clutch to shift gears up? On the freeway you weren't..
Wtf 240hp? Rsv4?
The zx10r only have 213 😭😭😭😭
How was he able to change gears without pressing down on the clutch?
Best video sir… can’t tank you enough 🙌
I always go to 6th gear as soon as I can to save gas. I do the same thing with my car
Drop a gear disappear 😂😂😂😂
if i don't make it to 1st before im completely stopped can i not just down shift right there while stopped? or are you performing high gear takeoffs to teach how to do it?
for better questioning can i just down shift from a high gear to first while completely stopped?
Yes but make it a habit to be in first when you stop.
@@HoldenEsck
Problem is sometimes you'll find the gear change really clunky trying to come down from fourth to first when stopped. Guaranteed to need first gear when still in third with lights turning green.
most of your braking in traffic and at lights is downshifting and engine braking, and lightly hold your brakes so your brake light comes on. Usually when I'm 20-30 ft from the stopped car in front of me I pull the clutch in and just use the brakes for the final bit, and I'm in 2nd here and go to 1st as I pull the clutch in and roll while braking. I do it the same way MSF teaches the emergency stop, just without squeezing the shit out of the brakes. Engine brake down to 2nd (while making sure you're triggering your brake light), then all four limbs are using their levers to the stop.
But yeah you can shift down to 1st while your stopped, but really you shouldn't be higher than 2nd by the time you stop. Engine braking does the majority of the work
Hello, great video!! I just started taking my driving lessons in HK. Just wondering why you don't need to press your clutch when downshifting? Is it depends on the bike?
this is san diego isnt it?
Boys and Girls sir 😊
Hey Petro Head !! I have a Question … How would you Prepare and Pack for a 10hr ( solo ) trip on your Motorcycle … What are some of the things you would have to consider for a safe trip ??? What’s the best time to Leave Out….Early Morning or Mid Afternoon
Say From Nashville Tn to Panama Beach FL What Route would YOU take if you took that trip ??
man thanks, everything in one video! answers all of my questions and confusion.
Didn't know you need to drop gears in order to push you forward and "disappear". I always up a gear to accelerate. Guess I'll try this.
I said disappear.. not accelerate..
i am saving up for a bike and i am planning on taking a class next year in spring. i’ve been watching a lot of videos trying to get as much info as i can. a lot of videos show how to ride and stuff and what everything does but i realized i didn’t know when to shift gears and how it all goes together and this video helped me sooooo much with understanding it. thank you!!!
I have not ridden a bike but I am thinking about it. I can drive manual in a car. I don’t understand how you can slow down and downshift without pulling the clutch. I literally saw you slow down from 4th to 1st without pulling the clutch. In a car you need to pull the clutch to downshift but in a motorcycle you can downshift without engaging the clutch??
Edit: sorry I see you said you have a special type of shifter.
Very thorough video covering mistakes and possibilities of incorrect gear shifting and i've watched a lot of tutorials as a new rider. Thanks!
Newbie here, 2wks in and teaching myself to ride on the road after getting my Ls. This is absolutely amazing, ty for Ur help and tips! Tysm ❤️
Good job. I've been motobiking for many years and I am convinced that this vid will benefit new riders🏍🏍🏍
10:21 🐦 🐦
Best Video for beginners like me. my instructor told me none of that before i went on the streets with him.
hope this video gets more views because I would of loved this when I was first starting out
7:14 Did you just run a stop sign 🛑 😳
just bought a duke 200, time for me to switch to hayabusa after watching this
Finally found the video tutorial I'm looking for days
I was never able to learn when to shift no matter how hard I tried
Watch my how to shift video.. watch this video after you learned how to do it properly.
@@PetroHead didn't work
Looks like I’m playing GTA or something
Ok this helped more than +12 past videos
Finally! This was what I was looking for. I tried to look up videos about this topic a few months ago, and a real life example of which gear to use and when, I managed to find just one, and it was a decade old video. Googling just gave the theoretical answer of 1st gear = 0 to 15, 2nd gear 15 to 30, etc. Could barely find a practical, real-world example
Can you make a video with this same format on which gear is best for going uphill or downhill? Thank you.
The google answer is true for cars that have lower torque and are more susceptible to stalling in the wrong gear.
Uphill will require more torque so lower the gear depending on how steep you have to climb (more steep climb = lower gear) and downhill you will have gravity accellerating your descent even if you are zero throttle, so again you may want to downshift to get some engine braking against gravity to keep your speed in check.
@@alessiodellagnello7011 thank you!