Very interesting review. Thanks. I was a Baptist Pastor, gay and married to my accepting wife for 51 years before she passed. I cared for her with MS for 26 years. (In sickness and in health).. But I strongly support gay marriage.
My Catholic mother got an annulment 45 years ago, on the basis that my father was never a true Catholic (a staunch atheist actually). To the 10 yr old me, it seemed to take a very long time and she had to use all her connections at Church. At the time, volunteering or working for the church and having personal ties was sometimes necessary to secure the highly valued annulment. I watched her suffer for many years. She was completely shocked and depressed. She turned further into the church to help her through, but that deepened her guilt. She wasted years hating my dad, and hating herself and terrified God would send her to hell She started attending church daily, sometime more. Even after getting the annulment, she didn’t feel she deserved it. She vowed to never have sex again, and kept that vow. My mom was terrified the divorce would ruin us kids. I don’t remember being upset about the divorce, specifically. What did affect me was how deeply my mother grieved that loss. Her years of depression and emotional self-flagellation. It felt like she spent the rest of her life trying to make up for it. Attending church daily. It took her at least a decade or more to seem to shake it off and start moving forward with her life. Shockingly after a couple years of telling us how evil our father was, she eventually gave up custody of all three of us. She seemed to preoccupied with Church and depression to notice us moving out one by one. The recommitment to the Church and her celibacy vow seemed part of her desperately needing to make it up to God, for her sin of divorce. My father remarried and flourished. It seemed very unfair. Watching the drama, I promised myself that I would never get divorced. Which makes my wife and myself the only successful first marriage in both of our extended families! It makes me grateful that we found each other in our early 20’s. For me, the hardest part of committing to stay together forever, is that means no matter what the other person ever does, short of violence, that no matter how much you are disappointed or hurt or jealous, that you will always forgive them. Period. No matter how complicated or difficult things get, we know that we have to work them out. Failure is not an option. Which means that there is always a solution, a compromise, a negotiation that will be worked out. It helps during the next fight to remember that we have always woke it out before, so we are confident that we can solve the problem. Marriage without commitment, to me, is like a working a crossword puzzle knowing there may not be an actual solution. If every time I got irritated, I thought, hey I deserve someone better, or is this even the right person for me? That uses up a lot of wasted energy. Like Abortion, Divorce is much to be avoided, but I wouldn’t dream of putting my values on someone else big life decisions. It’s enough that my wife and I have been a good role model for our children and our community. We had to wait over 30 years, but my lesbian marriage is finally fully legal. Hallelujah!
L.Owens, I am late finding this but thank you for taking the time to write it. There is so much here worth repeating that I encourage you to do so on as many platforms as possible. God bless and keep you safe and sound...............peace and love.........Ray
@@ThatTheologyTeacher the idea that procreation isn’t just about making babies. That it extends far beyond that. There are many other ways in which married couples can be procreative.
Matthew 19: 11-12 Divorce ... take note of verse 12 .. everyone seems to ignore it Jesus replied, “Not everyone can accept this word, but only those to whom it has been given. 12 For there are eunuchs who were born that way and there are eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by others - and there are those who choose to live like eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. The one who can accept this should accept it.”
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Very interesting review. Thanks. I was a Baptist Pastor, gay and married to my accepting wife for 51 years before she passed. I cared for her with MS for 26 years. (In sickness and in health).. But I strongly support gay marriage.
This touched my very soul. Inspiring lessons as always. Now I need to go forth and be procreative (in the social justice sense!)
Thank you so much for your continued support! I’m glad these lectures are getting through to the people who could use them.
God has given you knowledge & the wisdom to speak it fluently keep going strong 🏳️🌈✡️👍⭐️✝️🌈🇺🇸
My Catholic mother got an annulment 45 years ago, on the basis that my father was never a true Catholic (a staunch atheist actually). To the 10 yr old me, it seemed to take a very long time and she had to use all her connections at Church. At the time, volunteering or working for the church and having personal ties was sometimes necessary to secure the highly valued annulment.
I watched her suffer for many years. She was completely shocked and depressed. She turned further into the church to help her through, but that deepened her guilt. She wasted years hating my dad, and hating herself and terrified God would send her to hell She started attending church daily, sometime more. Even after getting the annulment, she didn’t feel she deserved it. She vowed to never have sex again, and kept that vow.
My mom was terrified the divorce would ruin us kids. I don’t remember being upset about the divorce, specifically. What did affect me was how deeply my mother grieved that loss. Her years of depression and emotional self-flagellation. It felt like she spent the rest of her life trying to make up for it. Attending church daily. It took her at least a decade or more to seem to shake it off and start moving forward with her life. Shockingly after a couple years of telling us how evil our father was, she eventually gave up custody of all three of us. She seemed to preoccupied with Church and depression to notice us moving out one by one. The recommitment to the Church and her celibacy vow seemed part of her desperately needing to make it up to God, for her sin of divorce.
My father remarried and flourished. It seemed very unfair.
Watching the drama, I promised myself that I would never get divorced. Which makes my wife and myself the only successful first marriage in both of our extended families! It makes me grateful that we found each other in our early 20’s.
For me, the hardest part of committing to stay together forever, is that means no matter what the other person ever does, short of violence, that no matter how much you are disappointed or hurt or jealous, that you will always forgive them. Period. No matter how complicated or difficult things get, we know that we have to work them out. Failure is not an option. Which means that there is always a solution, a compromise, a negotiation that will be worked out. It helps during the next fight to remember that we have always woke it out before, so we are confident that we can solve the problem.
Marriage without commitment, to me, is like a working a crossword puzzle knowing there may not be an actual solution. If every time I got irritated, I thought, hey I deserve someone better, or is this even the right person for me? That uses up a lot of wasted energy.
Like Abortion, Divorce is much to be avoided, but I wouldn’t dream of putting my values on someone else big life decisions. It’s enough that my wife and I have been a good role model for our children and our community. We had to wait over 30 years, but my lesbian marriage is finally fully legal. Hallelujah!
L.Owens, I am late finding this but thank you for taking the time to write it. There is so much here worth repeating that I encourage you to do so on as many platforms as possible. God bless and keep you safe and sound...............peace and love.........Ray
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Yaay! Someone vocalized my perspective on procreation! Thanks
Awesome! Which perspective are you referring to?
@@ThatTheologyTeacher the idea that procreation isn’t just about making babies. That it extends far beyond that. There are many other ways in which married couples can be procreative.
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One can't assume that Jesus wasn't married.
Quite so. In fact a thirty-three-year-old first century Jewish man being unmarried would have been quite an anomaly in those days.
You just twisted the scriptures to fit YOUR agenda. What you’re describing is your own god. NOT the God of the Holy Bible. Shame on you.
Matthew 19: 11-12 Divorce ... take note of verse 12 .. everyone seems to ignore it
Jesus replied, “Not everyone can accept this word, but only those to whom it has been given. 12 For there are eunuchs who were born that way and there are eunuchs who have been made eunuchs by others - and there are those who choose to live like eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. The one who can accept this should accept it.”